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ttoyetade:
It is not a case of deception. There is no time they tell the woman, she will always overreact. The way she reacted she can poison that girl. I think she's probably the bread winner of the house or may be the husband is a dependant. She really maltreated the husband. It may come back to hunt her because you don't know what God will do.

Ipobfraud:
No be so, she fit be useless housewife like that o, na the power given to woman there o. She know say if everything escalate the man go leave the house with the girl, and he go still they pay for the house rent way he no they stay so far they married legally.

osazsky:
Wicked Nigerian woman na ur mate accept 2nd wife as her own even congratulate her husband..why are Nigerian women this bitter

So the man was looking her in the eye and calling his daughter his niece while the daughter was calling him uncle. For years. The conniving. The planning behind her back and this is what you guys have to say.

When it happens to you guys, you can react how you want to. This is her reaction

pocohantas:
Malignantguest aka Apoptosis is married to a Nigerian woman who most likely moved abroad before him. His wife cooks everything including abacha for him in America, but he comes online to paint Nigerian women abroad bad. Very sly double-faced human. You can never see him say one good thing about marriage. Never.

Oh he’s the same guy? The one that his thread casted on the front page that time?

Obierika:
As a man make sure you work hard and have your money so that the woman you married will never have the effrontery to embarrass you like this.

Tufiakwa!

If my wife tries half of what this woman did she will land in her father's house before 12 midnight of that day!

you can start by not betraying her

I’m not going to discount your experience. That’s your experience.

But
1) it doesn’t matter if red state residents are living in the country or the city. The fact that their minimum wages are at or under the federal minimum and consistently puts them below the poverty line is something that they would’ve addressed a long time ago if they weren’t so focused on demonizing immigrants and throwing a fit about gay people living in California.
Their priorities seem messed up to me.
How do they keep voting the same leaders who keep them in cycles of poverty from generation to generation but every election year they are still able to convince them that so and so is their problem & not their leaders?

2) people who migrate from blue states are not necessarily those who don’t like it. Many of them love the money and the benefits they get. Some are earning high incomes working remotely while physically in red states. If they loved red states so much they should’ve committed fully to earning the income those states offer.

Some others moved because they retired and they want to keep their high retirement income while feeling like they are living big among the red residents. In summary it’s not a net positive thing because it’s driving up your housing costs but the minimum wage remains the same. Residents in those states will soon be getting priced out of their homes. I’ve seen one too many conservative brag about that as if it’s a good thing for them. You guys just love to “own the libs” . I’d be worried not happy.

But for the ones who actually left because they truly prefer red states, I applaud them and say good riddance. I wish more people would move to states that align with their political beliefs and enjoy the policies they voted for. Could you imagine? I feel like America would be paradise if that happened.

raumdeuter:
Within the same state there are areas who vastly different cost of living. Within the same state e.g California, Is the cost of living in SanFran same as in Fresno? So what is the livable wage in that area? Even within the same metro area say Los Angeles, there are areas with a higher standard of living than 5 zip codes away. Beverly Hills might have 3 times the cost of living as Compton and Inglewood. So what is the livable wage for LA metro, California or the US

Which brings it to every individual location has to determine its living wage. Which is why if you have a job not paying you enough you leave it. And if you are not treating your workers well enough, they leave you. That is how you reach the equilibrium between employers and employees on terms of work

Rural areas generally have a higher level of poverty. So saying red states which are more rural have more poverty does not mean much

I have also lived in Blue and red states, and I have to say I vastly enjoy living in the red states more and it seems more Americans do too. Given the migration patterns from Blue states to Red states

That is why Blue states are losing population and losing electoral votes

[img]https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/~/media/infographics/2015/05/sr152/bg-red-states-blue-states-chart-2-825.jpg[/img]

Maeve7:
This here.

You forgot their favorite. He’s playing chess

It’s definitely not ended.

But when you talk about they’ll say you’re playing victim. Just repeating klan talk for political purposes

GloriousGbola:
rodney king
central park five
george floyd
trayvon martin
Eric Garner
amodu diallo
Breonna Taylor

just a few of the people who have suffered racist police brutality or death

Some of those that work forces Are the same that burn crosses


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

the struggle never really ended - especially when you consider that police started out as slave catchers

don't let anyone supporting the right wing fool you - any black man abroad has this talk with their male kids

the difference is that today there are portable real time recording devices so police cannot just casually murder blacks and sprinkle some crack on them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svDin-r0oPE

old but gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJZU5plRhs

a constant reality for black men

bemeruca:
They fought for you so you could make that eye contact. They were strong, same, healthy etc. All the tough battles for the life you live today was as a their struggle. It is sad to see how much people want what they fought for to continue so we have hoaxes every now and then.

yet you want to go back to the struggle times? Make it make sense 🤣

Livable wage is not a fancy word though. It’s calculated based on average cost of living. Of course it differs from state to state and I know that’s what you mean. But the minimum in some red states has not changed to meet the times.

If it truly means nothing why do red states who have consistently paid lesser wages than blue states have higher rates of poverty? If they paid a livable wage on average even if it doesn’t measure up to what more expensive states pay, they would have less poverty.

And I’m speaking as someone who’s been in both red and blue states. They lie to you about how lower cost of living means you deserve less pay. That if you go to a more expensive blue state, you’ll be taxed to death. But at the end of the day, I have more money in my pocket in blue states compared to being a red state.

So livable wage definitely means something. And in 2025, it shouldn’t be $7.75.

raumdeuter:
Those are just fancy words with no real or practical meaning in real life. What is a livable wage? Is the livable wage in Manhattan NY same as in Rochester NY, Is a livable wage in SanFrancisco same as in Birmingham Alabama?

Employers and employees are free to negotiate wages that match their skills and economics of the place they are living and working. That is the sensible thing

A minimum wage in NY is a Kings wage in Mississippi

What should be the livable wages of say teachers? Is it same in California and Arkansas

raumdeuter:
The left is the party that demonize the blue collar working class which is why they all moved towards Trump
Which is why the Teamsters refused to endorse a democrat for the first time in decades

So why do you guys hate worker’s rights and livable wages?

bemeruca:
You don't get the point I was making but in the 50s people know what a woman is. Today they don't

Least of the world’s problems. Would rather exist in a world where people are confused about their genders than the world where I have to tell my son not to make eye contact with white women so he doesn’t get hung on a tree. Priorities.

The American people choose trump over Biden. The major complain was the economy.

The people that voted for him also believe children are being aborted up to one year after birth. And that plastic surgeries are happening in elementary schools. It’s not a flex that Americans are gullible. The only sane reaction to Trump getting votes is utter embarrassment.

Blacks also confessed trump did Better to improve their lives than Obama.

You and your friends don’t constitute the “blacks”.
78% of black men and 92% of bland women voted democrat. What your black friends on the right wing told you is anecdotal

Republican never ever vote for worker’s rights.
They hate unions.
They hate livable wages
They hate paid parental leave

These are all facts. These are all stuff republicans senators vote against every single time.

Yet they manage to convince their constituents that they’re for them. It’s a wonder of the world

ItooWorWor:
How does Nia Malika Henderson view reflect a leftist view? Just slow down on your hate for the left, just because they decided not to be dumb.

And isn’t it ironic that the same right that opposed the PRO Act, which was designed to benefit blue-collar workers through stronger union protections, now claims to value those very workers? This sudden love deserves our attention and discuss.

bemeruca:
Nice lie.

You think the 1950s were better than now. I don’t think we ought to take your opinion on anything seriously 🙂‍↔️

basilico:
Trump's economy was booming until they brought in COVID.

Trump was enjoying the euphoria of the economy Obama left him until he faced a challenge and lost his mind due to his incompetence.

What’s his excuse now?

So sad 😞

descarado:
Haba!

Funfact and you took it serious. Funfacts are generated for fun. Never to be taken serious.
I can say I trekked from onitsha to lagos crossing 7 oceans and seas. That's a fun fact. Or my greatgrandfather was a professor of oratory in 1920

Clinton (Dem) left a prosperous economy.
“ Overall. Clinton presided over the following economic results, measured from January 1993 to December 2000, with alternate dates as indicated: Average real GDP growth of 3.8%, compared to average growth of 3.1% from 1970 to 1992. The economy grew every quarter”

Crashed by Bush (republican)
“The last year of Bush's second term was dominated by the Great Recession. GDP declined in the 1st, 3rd, and 4th quarters of 2008 by -2.7%, -1.9% and -8.2%, respectively.”

Obama (Democrat fixed it)
“ President Obama took office in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, at a time the economy was losing over 700,000 jobs a month and in the midst of what we now know was the worst 6-month period for GDP growth in over 60 years. To respond to the crisis, the President took immediate, bold, and effective action, signing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act into law less than a month after taking office, helping to create jobs and make the investments we need to out-innovate, out-educate and out-build the competition so we can create true economic security for the middle class.”

Trump came in and crashed it. Blamed it on Covid. Whatever. He had the excuse to hide behind.

Biden came one and dragged us out of the literal pit of economic mess that Trump made.

“ Real GDP grew 5.9% during Biden's first year, the fastest rate since 1984. Amid record job creation, the unemployment rate fell at the fastest pace on record during Biden's first year, from 6.4% in January 2021 to 3.9% by December 2021.”
“President Joe Biden will leave the White House with a strong economy, historic gains in the job market, a foundation for future manufacturing growth, and having brought down decades-high inflation without triggering a recession.

Those feats, economists say, are even more impressive considering the nation was deep in the throes of a deadly, economy-scarring pandemic when Biden took office.”

Now Trump is back. And look at the mess we’re in again. Hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. In the verge of depression. Millions just lost chunks of their retirement.

These are facts not the gaslighting non truths the right wing perpetrates.

Give Trump a few years and him and his followers will deny he ever crashed the markets in 2025. Truth and republicans do not exist in the same universe

A Tale as old as time.

Republicans ruin the economy catering to the billionaires at the expense of the general public.

Democrats come in when everyone finally comes to their senses and fix it. Like clockwork.

IjeBos:
sigh.

I want to laugh at the cognizant dissonance in this post, but it's just so incredibly sad.

They walk right into the point. Face blank. And somehow still miss it

bemeruca:
We don't have to agree about everything. We are looking at it from different perspectives.

A lot of the brave fights for humanity, freedom, etc., took place in that era

I didn’t ask you to agree with everything.

I quoted him because if I said the same thing you’d be arguing with me until you are blue in the face.

It’s more likely you would accept it coming from him.

@bold so why do you think people had to fight bravely in that era? Was it because it wasn’t such a great time afterall and they had to fight for basic freedoms and humanity?

Le sigh 🤦🏽‍♀️

Cc bemeruca, basilico

raumdeuter:
All these comparing 1950 to now

Is like comparing Lagos life to village or living in America vs living in Nigeria

There might be some things good about village life or living in Nigeria or living in the 50s

But overall majority of people will prefer living in Lagos, America and in the current 2025 vs the other options

For me I will prefer living in the city in USA in 2025.

After African Americans fought for rights and the ability for us to migrate to the USA, some of us got here to join white people in bashing them.

GloriousGbola:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW-ggbuuZ4w?si=C2wPRZG_CetMYD0B

This was what happened when black men talked to womenThis was what a teacher told a brilliant young Malcolm - be a carpenter.

I forgot this scene from the Malcolm x movie. This was the reality of civil rights activism. People burning you out of your house at night. They killed his father and claimed the man bashed his own head in and tied himself to train tracks

Whites basically created a cult to intimidate black people - the ku klux klan.

You think they gave civil rights on a platter? People had to fight for them

Malcolm x says it in the movie. He got 10 years for burglary but the real crime was he and shorty were sleeping with white women

Reading the autobiography of Malcom x is always on option if you think the movie is fantasy

You can also get Walter moseleys easy rawlings novels which depicted life for blacks in the 50s

Have you heard of the word passing? It was when a black guy had enough white features (like Mariah Carey) to pass as white and therefore move away and pretend to be white so as to have access to opportunities. He would leave his family behind.

That was the reality before Civil rights

You think Nigerians would be emigrating to a Jim crow us where they could be lynched at will?

basilico:
Generally that's what I've picked from comments , not necessarily from white people. From mostly disqus and substacks.
Older generation not specific to any race. It was easier achieving one's life targets.
One area was job availability. Most people took up jobs they were passionate about be it a teacher, coach, fireman. They chose a career , most stuck with it and were able to raise strong families.
Today careers are all about money for a majority Not passion.

Well that didn’t apply extensively to black people.
The jobs available to them then were mostly low wage or service jobs. That’s why you see a lot first black man or first black woman to do this or do that. They didn’t have the same opportunities.

It wasn’t until the mid 1950s before black ppl had the unencumbered right to education. Sure some of them could’ve gotten educated before then but not without lots of obstacles. So which of their passions could they have pursued easily if their right to education wasn’t guaranteed before then?

Black Americans' right to an education in the United States was not universally established until the landmark Supreme Court case Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. This decision effectively outlawed racial segregation in public schools, marking a significant turning point in the fight for equality in education. However, the struggle for equitable education for Black Americans began much earlier and continued long after this ruling, with ongoing challenges related to funding, resources, and integration.

IjeBos:
Biko. Whatever.
But the truth is you are doing a better job of speaking about the black male experience than than he is.

Everyone on nairaland knows me as a bitter feminist. He’s ruining my reputation 🤭

These are white supremacists talking points. I saw it first hand. When you first land in the west and start going to church. Them racist old white people surround you and start feeding you anti AA propaganda. If you’re not careful you get lost in it and start espousing white supremacy ideals. This propaganda travels to Africa too. That’s why you see Africans who haven’t lived in America talking bad about African American people. But they have no idea that white people have worse communities within them. That’s the effect of propaganda.

The same ills they tell you plague the black community here (which is real let’s be honest) can also be found in white communities. Go to the Appalachias. Go to the country sides. Full of drugged out white people with no education. Meth heads and junkies. The opioid crisis has done them dirty. If they had been black, half of their population would be in prison for opioid offenses. Instead, they receive compassion from the American people. But black people on the other hand receive vitriol and prison for the similar or less offenses.

Even with all the generational wealth their forefathers amassed for them for centuries, they still have to compete with black people who only got civil rights in the 1960s. For people who got a bigger generational start than the rest of the population, white people shouldn’t even have poor drugged out communities the way they do.

BTW how do you move on from active racism? Just smile when someone calls you a n*gger? Is that how?
Because they still exist in their full racism and still practice their racism. Asking black people to move on while being under racist attack is crazy.

People can and should be able to talk about societal ills without folks like you chiming in to say they are refusing to move on.

bemeruca:
I said blacks today think they are more affected than the people who witnessed it. The fact that they want always to go back to what they did not witness is mind bugging. Blacks in those days were being lynched, today's black people wish to the lynching so bad so they are making hoaxes every here and there.



How is it being vocal by refusing to move on?
A lot has changed. If black Americans have the same mentality and culture they did back in the 50s, they'd be top class in the country.

There is a reason they hate US from Africa. we are most likely to be successful and be more educated

basilico:
I've said this over time and time again, you can search my posts here.
Whites don't like us, they think they are better.

I’m seeing that we’re making progress.
Be careful bemeruca will say you’re playing victim

Maeve7:
You have just proven Coco’s point.

So let’s stick to your source, shall we?
It’s divided 50/50. Obviously, your golden age wasn’t better for half the country.

I’m convinced they just think they have to argue the opposite of whatever we say. Even when it’s not necessary.

Like can we all agree with 1950s weren’t that great for everyone in general but horrible for black Americans in particular?

If they were talking about 1990s-early 2000s. We could have been having a different conversation.

Did you miss the point in this post that you shared?

basilico:
Americans are divided on whether U.S. culture and way of life was better in the 195os, with white Christians more likely to say it was , a new survey finds.

Gee I wonder why. Why do you think white Christians thought life was better then?

Why it matters: Despite the segregation and inequality. of yesteryear, nearly half of 5,027 Americans surveyed are nostalgic for the more [b]homogeneous world of the 1950s,/b] highlighting the political division today along racial and political
lines.

So what we said then?

basilico:
The whites never liked you then, they still don't . Majority if not all

Yet here you guys are cooning for them.
I’m convinced some of you don’t even know what it is tithe arguing for.

bemeruca:
You just don't understand.

I’m sure you’re about to teach me

Despite all the things against the black man then, morally, mentality and value wise they are better than what became of the black man after that time.

Today, people who did not witness slavery and all the horrors of those days are more effected by it than people who took all the hardship from slavery and segregation.

Tell me how a black man today is more affected than black men in the 50s who had to witness public lynchings and hold their peace so that they wouldn’t be next.

Don’t mistake people being more vocal and advocating for themselves as being more affected. What you’re witnessing is a generation of people who are not okay with letting things be the way they used to be. So they speak up more, agitate more and tolerate less. It doesn’t mean they have it worse than those who directly experienced the horrors.

As of 1968, public lynching of black people was still a thing. In other for people to survive then, they had to have put on a facade, keep their heads down and swallow their pride so as not to be the next in the trees. That’s some soul crushing existence if I ever saw one.

What you’re asking is for black men to go back to an existence of being submissive to white men, not to ruffle any feathers and accept whatever is thrown at them because anything else is playing victimhood.

I can’t believe you’re making me defend men on the internet. Hell has frozen over

basilico:
Subject to debate.Wasnt about race.

Context was ,how far could a dollar take you?

happiness is all about money?

Any conversation that doesn’t take the very vital component of American history which is race into consideration is null and void.

Because your dollar ain’t taking you nowhere when you can’t even buy a house in the neighborhood you want.

Dull conversations without nuance irk me

bemeruca:
People were happier. It's a fact

No one is stopping you from giving up your civil rights.

Lead the change.

Maeve7:
Not true.

definitely happier than black people at least

This whole conversation is insane that we’re even having it

GloriousGbola:
What job opportunites do you think black men had in the US in the 50s?

Do you understand what the civil right act and affirmative action were about?

Maybe next you will say Nigerians were also doing well in the 50s

Go and watch Malcolm x. Watch devil in a blue dress. Watch hidden figures. Watch fences. Watch till. Those movies will give you an idea of what life was like for black people in the 50s.

The nostalgia is from white people who were guaranteed a good life on a high school education. That is gone partially because of the corporate greed Raum celebrates but also because white people now have to compete with blacks and browns for jobs.

You can also watch actual movies from the 50s. The only roles for blacks - cleaning


One of the reasons star trek was so groundbreaking when it came out was that it featured a black woman (uhura) in a leadership role. Not as a mammy or a maid or a cook.

Unfortunately those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it, so here we are.