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raumdeuter:
So what are you complaining about? You are pre complaining about a man who has not even been sworn in. So what should happen? To change the election results?

Erm A lot of things can be true at the same time.
Is the debate about him being the president elect or that he’s showing himself to be a liar once again? We’re calling him out for being a liar. Your response is “we voted to him”. And so?

He made you guys promises that he’s now backtracking on. People pointed out how he’s set on swindling his followers again and you are calling it pre-complaining. I know it has to be embarrassing but no one forced him to backtrack. In fact it’s expected given his character.

You’re not going “ we voted for him and he won” away the feeling of being swindled.

Tomorrow when you buy eggs for 3x the price, you’ll still be chanting “we voted for him and he won”.

Doesn’t change the fact that he’s bamboozled you guys again.

raumdeuter:
We heard all these and more during the campaigns and the country made a choice
Americans for the first time had an opportunity to judge two admins. Trumps and Bidens and they chose Trumps. They believed their lives was better during Trumps time which is why they chose him again over Bidens Vice

raumdeuter:
American people weighed both options and handed the country to him

That must explain why they were googling “what are tariffs” and “can I change my vote” (in counties he won) after the election.

Even you don’t believe that. It’s just your way of dealing with not responding to the facts being presented to you.

It’s okay. I’d do the same thing too if I wanted to avoid damning facts in my face that I have no way of explaining away. 🤷🏽‍♀️

bemeruca:
Nonsense post from you again. He caused a severe inflation and you are giving him credit for not completely fixing what he caused.

I broken your head with a baseball bat but don't criticize me because I put bandages on it.

Nice logic.

Housing costs spiked in 2019 after Trump placed a tariff on Canadian lumber and steel. You’d think this would have been a good opportunity for his supporters to learn about tariffs.

He was also the reason for the increase in petrol costs.

Not to mention his mishandling of Covid 19 pandemic that led to more deaths and subsequent economic decline.

As you have so “smartly” pointed out oh wise one, those things take time to fix. That’s why Biden couldn’t fix them overnight but there’s overall improvement under his leadership. The records show that to be true

Trump’s administration will make them terrible again like he did the first time. And when people point those out, y’all in your low IQ pattern will call it wailing Abi crying instead of admitting you’re too embarrassed for having been bamboozled by a conman yet again.

bemeruca:
Trump is not in the white house yet; maybe things may go down faster or slower. His goal is to bring the price down.

As opposed to the current president who has steadily been bringing inflation down? You know, actual action with tangible results?

Or Kamala who recognized that corporations and their price gouging is the reason why despite inflation stabilizing and going down. They’ve refused to lower prices. And she had actual detailed policies for that? Not just verbal decrees.

But yea you believe Trump the grifter is going to be the one to challenge billionaire oligarchs to regulate their prices. I have a bridge in port harcourt to sell to you.

Prepare your excuses for the thousand and one failed promises he’s about to unleash on you guys.

I think you have TDS coupled with serious hatred for Trump. You are not thinking straight. The standard you held Trump on is to convince yourself that he is failing. That is your sickness

No you’re not thinking straight. That’s why you’re all over the place trying to find excuses on why he’s backtracking. Stumbling and embarrassing yourself trying to justify nonsense.
If anyone ever held Trump to any standards in his life time, he wouldn’t even be a candidate in American politics because he’s nowhere near qualified. Let’s be real for once.

basilico:
To make it easier for you.. Biden top staffers were Obama holdovers . It's Obama whos been the puppeteer. He propped Biden in 2020 and deflated him in 2024.

I’m selling tin foil hats for cheap if you’re interested

hayato:
Nice lunch from me
@₦5,500 from big taste cuisine.

Are you selling that? That looks good and fairly priced

Perfect example of when someone’s brain has been used and they’re trying to convince themselves they haven’t been made a fool of.

Tomorrow you guys will be here to make more excuses as to why he can’t do another thing he promised you he’ll do. Four long years of wiping eggs off your faces.

He hasn’t even started embarrassing you people yet.

bemeruca:
How do you tell someone what they are in support of?
You have been crying nonstop for what you don't know.
All politicians promise to cure cancer. Trump's response was in reaction to a question about whether his presidency would be considered a failure if he was unable to lower grocery prices. It wasn't a statement about his belief in his ability to reduce those prices.

You post is emotional. I can argue you don't know that you are emotional.

Even if I am 15 years old, I can still identify emotional rant when I see one.

He said when campaigning as a politician he would bring down price, later said it would be hard and as a result you have been ranting emotionally.

The issue is with you and the standards you have for trump. You are looking for every reason to cry.

raumdeuter:
All these epistles and writhing in pains wont change the opinion and votes of Americans

In your world, does opposition cease to exist because one party won the election?

basilico:
I support Trump because I believe Obama is the worst leader of our modern times. Nearly everything he stands for I'm against.
Look at the chaos in Ukraine ( Maidan) and the Middle East mess.
Plus he is a race baiter per excellence.

Yep. Obama was on the ballot

See the people I’m arguing with.

Ugh 😑

bemeruca:
You put emotions instead of reasoning when you speak. Trump said he is going to bring the price down, saying it is not an easy task does not mean he cannot do it or has backtracked.

Is it every time someone calls you out for not knowing what you’re in support of, you call them emotional?

Can you point to the part of post you responded to that’s emotional?

This is getting stale and very low IQ of you. Are you 15 years old by chance? Let me know so I can understand this behavior of yours.

He said he’ll bring the price of groceries down quickly . Those are his own words. If he’s now just realizing that those kinds of changes don’t happen overnight, then he’s dumb.

Or maybe he knew the truth that those kind of changes don’t happen overnight but he promised it anyway banking on the ignorance of people like you.

Pls grow up and come back when your prefrontal cortex has fully developed.

Exactly. Ontario premier vows to cut off electricity to 1.5 million American households if Trump’s tariffs on candao goes through.

Is that not an example of not thinking things through?
I bet you his thought process didn’t go far enough to wonder about the consequences of such proclamations before he started making them.

grandstar:
Import duties will have grave negative implications. It one step forward, and five steps backwards.

Trump intention is not that you pay higher for goods. Unfortunately, that is what will happen.

I won't say anything. When the shit starts to go down, you'll know what I am talking about.

Dark magic indeed

Pocky sticks with M&M edible Christmas art by the kiddos.

basilico:
There are always two sides of a coin

Noone has a magic wand to bring prices

Prices don't come down through proclamations

but through policies that reduce inflation, increase production

these are not instant results .

If you knew all this why did you support Trump?
His plan was to proclaim the inflation down.
With no actually policies. Except the disastrous tariffs. Which he didn’t even understand what they meant.

As a matter of fact he seemed like he didn’t even know the definition of word grocery with the way he was asking “groceries who even used that word”. Man had no clue what was talking about and y’all stood staunchly behind him.

Sigh. Don’t even bother

The question was for Raum.
I want to know what he thinks about your sudden acceptance of higher taxes.

Yep. Straight out of fascist playbook

Maeve7:
And even against the better knowledge of a woman’s healthcare providers. And who the hell will inform the authorities about the type of antibiotics the woman was prescribed and took?


”Under Erich Mielke, its director from 1957 to 1989, the Stasi became a highly effective secret police organization. Within East Germany it sought to infiltrate every institution of society and every aspect of daily life, including even intimate personal and familial relationships. It accomplished this goal both through its official apparatus and through a vast network of informants and unofficial collaborators (inoffizielle Mitarbeiter), who spied on and denounced colleagues, friends, neighbours, and even family members. By 1989 the Stasi relied on 500,000 to 2,000,000 collaborators as well as 100,000 regular employees, and it maintained files on approximately 6,000,000 East German citizens—more than one-third of the population.“

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stasi

folake4u:
Instead make you tap into the name and say Amen..

Amen my sister

Maeve7:
The same people who scream communists, support the establishment of a police state. Make it make sense.

Yep. That “we hate big government” rhetoric falls flat on its face if they’re over there supporting the govt meddling in women’s menstrual cycles and pregnancies

Meanwhile South Carolina just refiled their equal protection bill that seeks to regard zygotes, embryos and fetuses the same as humans. Such that if the pregnant woman does anything to risk the lives of the unborn, she could be prosecuted as if she walked into the neighbors house and shot them.

Anything could include, heavy duty jobs, air travel, certain antibiotics or other medical treatment intended for the woman that ends up harming the fetus. It’s left to the discretion of the judge who may not even know the difference between the fallopian tube and the ovaries.


Women who are grieving the loss of a wanted pregnancy will be further assaulted by this insulting charade of “seeking justice for the unborn”. Women in physically tasking jobs will be torn between quitting their jobs and depending on a man (if they even have a man) or staying and potentially facing a jury for endangering their unborn.

They’re aiming for American Afghanistan at this rate.


If you’re in South Carolina, call your representatives and ask them to vote against this bill. What a mess.

DeepSight:
There is no self made person in the world.

Anyone who wants to say the contrary should start by showing me how they gave birth to themselves. We start the discussion there.

indeed

folake4u:
Lol yes na, Ichie.

my level no reach 😭

Maeve7:
Woke this, woke that. What are they? Comatose?

As if woke is a pejorative 🤣

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folake4u:
The Trûmp he and his cohorts are supporting, isn't he a morally bankrupt politician? But no, they're making him seem he's the best thing after sliced bread. Mtchewww!

Don’t mind them.

Welldone to you and others on the thread, Ichie Coco.

Ichie 🤣

GloriousGbola:
i have to wonder if IbeOkehie is a fifth generation amerian. because that is how most of his takes are.

it is privilege and generational wealth that can insulate you from reality

Nope. He said he started from the bottom like all of us. It’s the classic move up and forget about where you came from syndrome that’s prevalent in the conservative world.

The things they call handouts and socialism today were beneficial to them on their way up. If they truly started from the bottom, there’s no way at some point they didn’t benefit from those things. Even if on a small scale.

In the school I attended, there were grants and scholarships for students who NEEDED THE FINANCIAL AID and maintained above 3.5 out 4.0 gpa. I’m proud to say I don’t have student loans because of the generosity of the people who funded those programs. All I had to do was study hard. There’s no self made person in America.

Now that I can give back to the school to help fund up-coming students, if I were a Republican I’d call it a handout. And say their parents should have planned better.

folake4u:
Gloriousgbola Thank you for your well detailed response on my behalf because truly, I have no further words for Ibe.

I wanted to reply to his mention but he kept on deflecting. Today is a good day so I'd let it slide.

Nigerian youths don truly suffer.

If you guys let republicans talk long enough they’ll show you who they truly are.

We didn’t move to America and all of a sudden decide to abandon all traditional values in place of “wokeness” like they love to insinuate.

After you’ve had a few conversations with them, you’ll quickly come to realization that if they had their way, the country you moved to will rapidly adopt the negative aspects of the country you moved away from because of the kind of policies they support.

There’s something to be said for adopting the best aspects of each system but they don’t want to hear that.

basilico:
We pay taxes hoping it will be for the common good. If paying a lil bit higher price will improve the quality of life, why not.

Raumdueter what do you think of this statement from your guy here?

We told them this before they voted.
They said that’s what they wanted.

It’ll be worth it if they can say the libs lost. I guess 🤷🏽‍♀️

grandstar:
Americans don't know that they've thrown themselves under the bus.

Lee Yuan Kew liken the policies of Mao's regime, "as an excess of hubris and theology." Those exact words are what best describes Trump and his policies.

Take his deportation policies.

He want to deport 15-20m "illegals" whether they contribute to the economy or not. About 9m are already working, many doing the jobs Americans snub like picking fruits, or cleaning. Economist have already said the deportations would lead to severe labor shortages.

The logistics of attaining such a humongous number is monstrous. As if that wasn't enough, he wants to de-naturalize many who already have citizens.

Take a look at his trade policies which rests on tariffs. The UK's economy today is in trouble today because it turned its back on free trade with the European Union where there are zero tariffs between member states.

The pain afflicted on Britain's economy due to its exit from the EU is only a fraction of would be inflicted if Donald Trump is enacts his plan to place 65% import duty on Chinese goods, and 25% on Canada, its 51st state, and Mexico.

He said Americans won't pay for the tariffs, that it is the exporter. Not only is this completely and totally idiotic, it shows that majority of Americans are economic illiterate.

These tariffs will boost inflation, and what would the Fed do when inflation increases? It increases interest rates high enough to kill inflation. This will increase the cost of servicing personal, corporate, mortgage and public debt and might tilt the economy into a recession.

Economists have predicted that the US economy might fall by up to 8% if Trump decides to go through fully with the deportations and the tariffs in his first year.

I have lost all confidence in the world economy. Trumps policies will not only take America down, but the world's.

IbeOkehie:
Why are you doing this?

OK, please, for all that is good, ignore my comments. I'll converse with those who want to exchange views in a respectful tone.

General question - is there a way to put certain members on IGNORE? I'm really regretting engaging some people on here.

Good Luck to Nigerians

You have to be joking.

You have routinely over multiple posts implied and outrightly stated that people who talk about inequality, systemic racism and injustices are playing the victims. You’ve said that those things should not be taken into consideration when accounting for class mobility.

Now you turned around to use the “it’s an organization against black people” line in your argument. Do you not see how contradictory that is? Why should anyone believe that you care about something that was “formed against black people” when you don’t even believe such things are of any significance to the race. You’ve made it seem like the fate of black people in America has been entirely up to them and not a result of whatever might have happened to them in the past. You don’t get to turn around and want to use that in your argument.

Look man I haven’t spoken out of turn to you.
You want to stop engaging because you don’t like when something you said is presented to you the way you said it, that’s fine. But don’t say it’s my tone or whatever excuse you want to use. I am innocent.

Thanks for the discourse so far. Take care.

IbeOkehie:
Planned Parenthood was founded explicity as an organization to promote the genocide of Negroes using abortion. There's no controversy.

Now you care about injustice to black communities? 🤣

budaatum:
You are going to continue repeating this lie regardless what anyone says, and you wouldn't take responsibility for your very narrow maga sort of misunderstanding.

The article you referenced states how her own mother suffered from excessive child birth, but I'm sure that's because she was black too, right?

Fact is, uneducated black and white Americans were more likely not to use birth control (which was scarcely available at the time), and have more children whom they couldn't feed or educate, and which perpetuated poverty, but I guess that's far too complex for you to consider.

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/14/432080520/fact-check-was-planned-parenthood-started-to-control-the-black-population

Please stop gaslighting that you are neutral on what you are not neutral on!

That’s why I don’t argue with men about abortion.
Sorry to the supportive guys out there but even when some guys mean well or are neutral like Ibe claims he is, you can’t get them to make the necessary connections on why it’s critical to women’s health and future.

He’s providing stats to show that planned parenthood gave more abortions to black women as if to say it’s a national conspiracy. These women weren’t forced.

I’m sure he knows that;
1) a lot of low income communities use planned parenthood for general gynecological care including preventative care.
2) majority of black women grew up in low income communities hence it makes sense if they’re the ones being served more by this organization. Doesn’t mean other race of women in other communities aren’t getting abortions in their communities.

I’m sure if he tried just a little, he would be able to make the connection between access to planned parenthood and the rising number of black women who’ve been able to get out of the hood by completing high school and graduating college without unplanned pregnancies holding them back.

Would you look at that. What a testament to the benefits of having programs for the under dog.

It’s not bleeding hearted “liberalness”.

It’s actually what makes America great. Not rugged individualism.

GloriousGbola:
i was upper middle class while i was in uni and i didnt want for anything per se. but i had several dirt poor classmates. today so many of them are doing good. the other day six of my doctor friends all met up at my sister's place in dallas. every last one a federal uni grad and all but one based in the us or canada.

it was surreal looking at them. look at us - people who used to shit in the bush on campus. look at us now!

but some elitists will tell us that these guys also cheated and bribed their way through school. my sis had the highest score when she took the usmle in NY. and she was pregnant at the time. our softlife americana friends were convinced she would fail her exams because it was a difficult time for everyone.

GloriousGbola:
what maga cannot do to the human psyche does not exist

They always say leave it to the states.

Abolishing slavery? Leave it to the states. (They actually went to war to fight for their right to keep black people as slaves)
Federally funded Education? Leave it to the states
Federally funded Affordable Healthcare? No leave it to the employer
Abortion rights ? Leave it to the states

If we leave everything to the states, why are we the United States ?

GloriousGbola:
or maybe you are going for world where only the children of the rich have opportunities and everyone else is a serf

That’s the end goal.

These ones think since they’ve escaped lower class status, then it’s okay if others don’t get the same opportunity to escape.

There are so many dirt poor counties in America that any hope of education for those kids will have to be through federal funding. Otherwise forget it.

Ironically they acknowledge that America is great. And that grass to grace stories abound. These Federal programs are some of the things that make it possible.