₦airaland Forum

hosemujica:
This is about to get worse, I want the modes looking at this to get to the genesis of this whole thing. You mentioned me first which was not a problem but ending with insult , I can’t let slide.


You obviously eat through your ass, if not you would have known that “ envy “ or suggesting that I’m encouraging the government to subjugate anyone is an insult and that will anger anyone who obviously is comfortable in their own skin.

Stop castigating Nigeria on Nairaland every country has her own issues. Again you are not better than anyone cause you live in US or have more money that them, we all breath the same air . Get that into your head.

hosemujica:
I’m a Marine Pilot and now work for NIgeria Ports Authority. Nigeria trained me and I have been giving back, I also have over 30 pilots under my mentorship presently.

I have been to 20 countries of the world and I have also gotten job offers that I rejected. I pity the man that married you because you are one of those village ngbeke feminist that thinks because they are making some change as a nurse now they have arrived. Listen ,I visit United States all the time and I leave when I’m due, nothing enticing.


Indian ladies make upwards of $700k a year working in tech. Yet they are not online bragging or being disrespectful to their husbands, I know your type. For the records go and find out how smart you have to be to become a marine pilot, ( thank God for subsidized Nigerian eduction and scholarships )if not my poor ass then could not have afforded it.


For your information my mates who are practicing in US earn at least $300k per annum. I know this will shock you because ngbeke feeling funky like you don’t know cause you are busy wiping old lady Betty’s ass.

Even with how much they earn my house in a choice area in Nigeria is worth more than their mortgages ( yes we have done that calculation in the past) after taxes these guys cry home with the little change left and yet a lot of them were smarty pants as such have no student loans let alone American graduates drowning in loans.


The fact that you got cheap education in Nigeria and don’t have loans to deal with doesn’t mean that’s not the reality of most Americans. But even with your loans my house still worth more than your mortgage regardless of forex situation.

The only area you are better than me is that you have gmo orange juice in your power grid provided electricity, while I have organic juice in my solar powered fridge.

Again, your smartness will never stand side by side with mine, in fact it’s genetic as my nephew scored the most in jamb in my state.

Again get off your high horses, there will be no US if people weren’t patriotic. I see wounded soldiers all over US when I visit , idiuts like you will laugh and ask why they went to war. That’s patriotism, you don’t have it for US or Nigeria so please crawl into your hole and never come out again .

You have nothing that someone like me should envy ,you are just a serial manipulator looking for the next government to blackmail with your poverty mentality . Take that away from me I’m worth more than you today, tomorrow and forever.

We are talking about patriotism and humanity you know nothing about any of those, so shut up and face your husband if you have any respect for him

A lot of Americans don’t have up to $25 in their account take that to your cave hediot

hosemujica:
You are not in heaven your shit stinks like skunk , the fact that you ran to the US does not make us building Nigeria useless . We are here building the country piece by piece, everyone with one sense in their head knows that student loan is a big problem in the United States. And who told you the hospital I took the patient has no amenities? .

The entire population my ass ,when last did you ask the government to treat teachers and lecturers better than the conditions they are now ? Selfish slowpoke like you. Running abroad to clean a white man’s ass is patriotic but staying in Nigeria to help the needy is slavery ?


American healthcare is not even the best in the world get your high horses with your slave mentality , you are not better than anyone living in US some of us have a better life in Nigeria than you can ever dream of the US stop fooling yourself.


I did not bother you one bit . You idiot quoted me first , and I’m trying to correct your healthcare dormant brain and you are writing all these American feminist garbage. You can talk to your useless husband who (you helped migrate ) that way. Don’t jump into my comment and tell me what the heck to do .

hosemujica:
Medical education in the United States cost upwards of $200k . Doctors without specialized field graduate with average of 200k in student loans, and anyone reading this that have dealt with student loans in the United Stated knows what a burden this is , in fact if you are not careful the interest will exceed the loans and grind your financial life to a halt.

This is part of the reason some Americans have decided to stay away from medical field .which have paved way for people like you who migrate with medical degree they got with little or nothing ifrom Nigeria .

For the benefit of those reading this, there is no doubt that education in Nigeria is highly subsidized, even more so with medical education. Besides, UNESCO and WHO have categorized health as humanitarian crises in Africa hence the aid and grants they send to this countries for medical education. Their intention is that these people graduate and have compassion toward their compatriots by practicing in the country.

No one is saying live your whole life in Nigeria, all we are saying is that for the country that have given you such cheap education, pls give something back ,and if you don’t want to, then pay for your education yourself . And if you want a good idea of how much it will cost ? Ask a Covenant university graduate ( at least no one will ask a Covenant university graduate to stay back cause he paid in full for his or her education.

In 2019 a guy had a medical emergency, took him to the hospital and there was no doctor present and he died in my car meanwhile over 400 thousand doctors trained with government subsidy are practicing in UK. And here you are telling me about how to help the entire population? What other help does a population need if not saving their lives when they are dying untimely ?

Listen lady , we found ourselves in a country where all discussions and essence of living is centered around money and wealth . If not , begging a doctor or mandating them to stay a number of years and give back to the society is not even a morally acceptable discussion to have, when doctors from western countries go to Africa to help all the time without being paid.

United Stated also does that by canceling your student loans if you are willing to work in certain areas as a volunteer health worker ,no one is forcing you , but if you are not interested $200k in student loans ( interest not included ) is looking into your eye balls.

Unfortunately we found ourselves in a country where the government has no clue on how to make things work. I’m not a fan of Tinubu, but why make student loan available to Nigerians instead of giving them additional grants and attach conditions to it , like United States does with student loans. Example;


1.Medical students should take the grants and serve a number of years before they move on ,

2. No one is forcing you to take the grants, go to the next office and pay your full ( fool) tuition devoid of tax payers grants if you don’t want to serve after graduation.

NYSC worked for goodness sake, this can work too.

Abeg for those reading this how complicated can this be?

malali:
Read the whole thread,don't pick one comment.
Check the context first.
And as for you, i wont reply you either.

hosemujica:
Cool, in addition let those who sign agreement to work in Nigeria for 10 years after graduation get the loan and those who refuse to sign, pay the actual price of medical education which should be at least 30million naira.

abdsamad:
They won't take the loans. You'll have when less doctors.

They don't saddle doctors with loans as a way of retaining them. That's smooth brained thinking. Everyone has loans in the usa. Everyone.

Their doctors stay because that's where they get paid the most.

Nigerians won't take the loans, they'll send their children away from your broken country. You'll end up with even less doctors.

Stop trying to solve problems backwards.
Ordinary 500k base salary is enough to increase retention rate in this country. Yet you're here talking of saddling them with loans.
Same kind of thinking as your smooth-brain leaders

malali:
I only respond to civil people.

malali:

How old are you ?
Do you have enough IQ to decipher figurative statements ?

pocohantas:
They will miss you. Don't make them go through that.

obyikye:
@cococandy, @Mariangeles etc. please why is my plantain frittata not fritta-ing?
Though the tasty is yummy and delicious but it wasn't compacted thus breaking.

radautoworks:
When I ordered basil in Nigeria, what got delivered was identified as scent leaf by the help. Hmm.. maybe thai basil?

sonnie10:
Even nurses make much more. I was just being very conservative for doubters.

pocohantas:
It was when he mentioned architect and some other family reference that it stuck. Prior to that I did notice his obsession with you, which we know dates back to 1902. One thing with them is, they rarely stay away from any moniker they hate.

pocohantas:
Same person. He is free to deny it, but he knows he cannot fool me.

pocohantas:
I have never told you I am 18. Why do you try so hard to create senseless agendas? Can you ever make a point without them? She is also your junior. Asides changing monikers to carry women's matter on your head, what have you done like your fellow men out there? Or you are blind to that. Donstan, leave me out of your shenanigans. I won't warn you again.

Nonexisting1:
Can someone please mention all these chocho women in this forum to come and see their mates who had/have doings. No be to come here dey fight men while their mates did and are doing the actual fighting offline. Let me start. Cococandy, EreluRoz and Pocohantas, come and see your mates. I've mentioned their names, oya mods come and beat me.

descarado:
U go explain tire
One day, I go disappear like others from here too.
The site dulls the brain

HueyNewton:
Coco is already taken (double entendre)

Maeve7:
Please, I‘d love some too.

Neptunium:
Shut up, nasty Perverted criminal. Na your type dem go deport soon, buffoon. And liar, you no inform her now. See lie . You didn't inform her before, it's now now after seeing my comment that you just informed her? . Perverted liar oshi

radautoworks:
pretty sure scent leaf is basil which is readily available

SmartPolician:
You don't even get the point. The point is simple: The UK is turning to Nigeria to source health experts because it's expensive for their people to study, thus resulting in massive labour shortages in their country.

Since medical doctors have gone through subsidized education in Nigeria and intend to move to a country where they will earn huge sums, they have to compensate the government. This is why I mentioned 80m in tuition. The government is already working on my submission and health students will be made to sign the bond soon. So, this conversation is utterly unnecessary.

SmartPolician:
The reason is simply that medicine and its related studies are the world's most expensive courses. In schools like Oxford and Cambridge, you pay about 80 million per annum for the courses. In contrast, in Nigerian universities, it's extremely cheap.

Why the UK government is rushing Nigerian health experts is that their people aren't so interested in studying the course because it's extremely expensive (even for the citizens who pay lesser) while Nigerian practitioners are desperate to leave the country for greener pastures.

If health experts continue to leave this country in droves, Nigeria will be in a big mess. You people are just being emotional; Nigerians will still be the ones to complain that there are no doctors in hospitals when all those folks leave.

BTW, I didn't say they cannot leave. You can only leave after practicing here and it only applies to those who attended public universities.

APCNig:
Go and find out how much medical and nursing students pay abroad and compare to the guguru money they pay here as a result of Nigeria's government funding of their education.

You are comparing education for medical students to that of bankers, do bankers use expensive equipment for training? Do Accountants use expensive equipment for training? No vex me there, so that I will not go and double-cross you under Oshodi bridge and hand you over to my boys there to whip you mercilessly

APCNig:
Let the doctors continue running abroad, let them go with all their nuclear, extended and compound family members, if not it is native doctors that will treat their family members left here. Very selfish vagabonds. Nigeria spends millions of Naira to train them, yet they cannot serve Nigeria. Go and find out how much international and even local medical students pay per year in UK and USA, then you will know that our government is not useless in all categories

SmartPolician:
I think what Nigeria needs is to allow health workers who finished from public institutions to leave Nigeria after practicing in Nigeria for at least 5 years.

However, they have to pay the Nigerian government an annual support fee of $5k for 5 years. This will go into funding more schools of health across the country, improving their research, improving the working conditions of health workers who still work in Nigeria and increasing the number of such schools across the country. It's a 50-50 deal.