₦airaland Forum

How much is it?

After their failed food blockade, the eyes of more southerners have been opened.

In a country where 80% of prisoners are awaiting trial they manage to speedily sentence someone expressing mere opinion.
Buhari is a plaque to this nation.

11 what? Is that the beginning of a new wave of brutal covid?

This is so cool. If the FG politics won't favour the Igbo's, they should go through CSR backdoor with their influence in strategic multinationals. I will like to see a more ambitious project of the mould like power or technical schools.

I thought Ipob was a terrorist org and they birthed ESN while FG had asked for media to stop glamorizing terrorists which by association with IPOB, ESN is.

hisgrace090:
Hope this is not another voodoo economics from emefiele.

The bankers too are greedy and I hope that CBN is able to clip their wings if they decide to misbehave.

Keeping fingers crossed. I hope the bankers don't replace the BDCs in their bad practices.

40 acres is big and I can only imagine the distress they have put that victim in.

No amount of awards and honours can justify keeping him.

Beancounter94:
I agree we should cut the pay of our leaders...but at the end of the day, it does not add much to the money for the poor.

Either Nigerian becomes an industrial nation , or we continue to be poor.

We all should read more of Field Ruwe's famous article.

it adds much to the poor. If you can cut their pay, then you can proceed to cut that of other public servants that have been inflated as a result of the leaders inflating theirs. Lecturers, NNPC and subsidiary, LNG company in Calabar and more.

Beancounter94:

So, we can do miracles on a very small budget.

I have to agree that having leaders take the highest pay from one of the smallest per capita budget ratio is a miracle. A fantastic phenomenon.

Beancounter94:
So, we can do miracles on a very small budget.

I am not passing the blame. I am stating a cold reality. And we...government and people...better face that reality.

Or we can pretend that 30 billion dollars is enough for 200 million people in a year, and a tax to gdp ratio of 6.1 % and a situation where we tax only 30-% of the population would yield us development at a level of a USA or Germany.

We have to change the way we see things.

And FYI....I don't back any party or support any party. APC and PDP and Buhari are big parts of the problem for me.

You cannot buy a BRAND NEW Ferrari at N400

Your arguments are partially valid and hide or ignores the bulk of the problem.
The govt that have been empowered conditionally above the people to deliver what the peoppe share in common have hijacked power and made it almost absolute power for themselves. It is largely a leadership problem.

Beancounter94:
1. As for the tap water, a lot of parts of Nigeria are still under water supply.

2.We don't have universal power and water supply because we are not willing or ready to pay the market price for these things, or the tax for these things.

I know people will abuse me and call me government supporter but before you do, consider this

1.Our budget in dollars is less than 30 billion. For comparison, South Africa spent 23 billion on education in 2019...and even then they still grumble that that isn't enough

2.Our tax to gdp ratio is 6% . For comparison, South Africa is at 23% as is Ghana. Even Niger is at 15%. Working countries like France have it at 46% . In practical terms, 30% of the taxable population actually pays taxes....and this is because 70% of the economy is in the informal sector.

3.Power costs, according to someone elsewhere , N73 per kwh to make. We pay between N48-71 per kwh, with most people paying below N60. Then there are, as at 2018, the 34% of people who don't pay...rich or poor. Plus our oil sector is groaning under subsides, and price controls which makes it difficult for gas producers to produce enough for market...and all this translates into a loss making power sector...and you expect them to give you light 24/7? Like how?

Plus when it was NEPA, the same things happened. Illegal connections, etc, etc.

4.We keep on telling ourselves we should get side hustle...yet we won't tell our country to get side hustle. Na oil we dey rely on. Oil whose price jumps up and down like someone's pulse rate. Right now, since 2008, oil has been at a price below our sustenance levels, and we are running into debt trying to live off one income...and yet, you expect to be like Europe or US with diversifed economies, and very high tax rates?

5.We keep on talking about corruption. Today, most of the people on this site who were blasting GEJ for being corrupt are excusing Buhari corrupotion,, while those who are blasting Buhari, when GEJ and co were doing looting, they kept quiet, or defended him. We only care about corruption when our side is not in power...when it is our side in power, corruption no longer is our concern...and the choopping from a very small budget continues...and we expect miracles.

6.We are a resource dependent country, not an industrial country. We import many things (we are not as bad as Venezuela though, but still awful)..and make nothing for export. And the things we sell...like oil, or want to sell...like minerals and agric produce ....their prices are not set in Abuja and Lagos, but in London, Paris and New York...and we somehow expect to earn enough income. Meanwhile industrial nations are able to set their own prices.


If we want a better society, we have to face some hard truths. Like we are not as rich as possible, and we are spending money we don't have...and we tolerate corruption too much...then we can progress. And even if we split into many countries tomorrow...these truths will still come and look at us in the face well well.

Good afternoon.

Your attempt at passing the blame back to the people quickly gave you up. You talked about SA's education budget alone being close to our national budget. Nice point if true. What about our leaders and their jumbo pay? Does it compare in any way to SA's or even Canada's?
Instead of passing the blame, why not address the ills?


You also talked about tax-to-GDP ratio being around 6% and therefore low. Tax principally is a cut of profit. Profit is tied to business activities or productiveness and competitiveness. How conducive or competitive is our business environment. People have to generate their own power and that drives cost up. What about corrupt officials in civil service that can hold the industry to ransom, thus inflating their cost of final goods?

ifytrik:
This is one thing i hate about hausa-fulani people, they are always defending their brothers no matter what they did, i was to when i engaged about ten educated hause men in argument concerning the killings by bokoharam, they were all defending bokoharam and almost fought with me, since then i no longer argue with hausa men. hausa/fulani men here in the north believes that the igbos are highing the prices of goods in Nigeria jst ust to make buhari goverment look bad.

most of them are irredeemable. Dollar has gained against the naira and Igbo's dominate the largely import dependent sectors of the. Economy.

Dranoid:
If I understand you, you are saying the anger in the first verse is unrighteous and the opposite for the second verse?

Yes.
Psalm 7:11 says God is angry with the wicked everyday. His anger towards the wicked is rekindled everyday because He doesn't let the sun go down on anger(Ephesians 4:26-27). The wicked can be angry just for his neighbor getting blessed by God. That's not God's type of anger.

Instead of the PDP styled road shows of Labaran Maku, APC engages their covert BMCs on us. That's one thing APC seems to be getting right.

The useless freeze has gone silent. He didn't see the part of bible that talks about godly repentance or unrighteous mammon. He only saw some early old testament practice about drinking wine and eating tithes that had been overridden by newer commandments.

Some of these things are down to translation.
Example is in exodus where "money faileth" and in Timothy where it "answereth to all things".

Anger "dwells" with a fool but God is angry with the wicked conditionally. The condition being their wickedness and refusal to repent. Isn't there a righteous anger again?
God's anger was aroused against israel when they sinned against Him. It was an anger meant to preserve them from destruction(salvation) and unlike the anger of the fools.

There is righteous anger and unrighteous anger. Same way there is good blessing and bad blessing. There is also unrighteous mammon(money) and the true riches. There is godly repentance and fake repentance. There are always fake versions of originals. Even fake gods and fake men of God.

Hope the agbada Gucci tailor consultant don't override this with backdoor politicking.

ThatFairGuy1:
Enemies of The Federal Republic of Nigeria can continue WAILING.
We care not.

On this we stand

Just in case you don't know, the Nigerian Government will do her best to protect her most decorated officer because by so doing, they are also protecting the NPF. The same way that FBI will not deliver their agent to Nigeria to answer to any allegation, is the same way Nigeria will resist delivering Abba Kyari to the FBI.

Nothing surprises me about northerners again. Ride on.

His excellency here, her excellency there, yet the only thing excellent around them is corruption.

Another Sargent Rogers(Abacha's hitman) with a police badge.

udele1:
They should target the children of kanu that deceived them.

The one that is sending them to die for a biafra that wont come without the Niger Delta.

I am talking about innocent citizens caught in the mix up Nigerian police are known to create anytime they are on a revenge mission.

Nice one.

All the innocent young men harrassed in Imo state because of IPOB may target this descendant of maina and pantami.

LegalWolf:
If you call me a Quota System, I accept with my full damn chest. But what I know is: not you or majority of your fellow southerners CAN compete with average Northerners like me. Not in this world, not in the world to come.

That said, your thoughts which I responded to lack coherence. It appeared (unless you’re trying to be smart by half) that you were against the current sensitization because the only thing it will bring to the North is destruction of pipelines. You go read read ur post again.

A true quota system product.

Lol...how can a food basket be the next hunger hotspot? Paradox.

mfm04622:
If you can't contribute meaningfully to discussions, why don't you just keep quiet?
If Russia and Germany can invest in undersea pipeline to supply Europe with gas from Russia, why shouldn't Nigerian supply gas to Northern Nigeria? What exactly is wrong with this idea? Why is it poorly thought out? In fact, this is coming late!

Another quota element. Comparing apples to mangoes.

LegalWolf:
Looooool. Your hatred of us is appalling! Those who vandalized Warri itakpe pipelines are northerners right? Those who burst pipeline in Niger Delta creeks are from maiduguri huh? Do you see the folly of your argument?

On the other limb of your argument, you insinuate that because dangote and adenuga did not invest in oil processing in the north, it’s a badly thought out idea. How ridiculous! Did Dangote and Adenuga invest in tech? Or power supply in the south? Are these badly thought out ideas too?

You need to do more than just spilling hatred on those that have never hurt you. Introspect and be open minded. Northerners have bad eggs just like Southerners and is it is absolute bunkum to hold the view that only the North has criminals.

You spoke like a true quota system son. I was talking about IMO, Oweeri in that part your brain was interpretating as north. Read the OP again and see where he(Silva) talked about the previous sensitization in Imo state. Quota product.

Sent to meet 72 virgins. That's promotion.

Mumu stooge. You are about to pump gas up north but sensitizing IMO people about some phantom opportunities it will bring them. The only opportunity it will bring them is through vandalism of the pipeline.
Why hasn't Dangote or Adenuga tried taking oilnor gas to the north for use or processing? Because it is a poorly thought out idea.