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sketcherJ:
do you still have the 17k laptops?
and which one can i get for 21k?
please reply urgently

I wonder what a 21k laptop will lookblike in 2019. can't you rally some 20k extra and go for a clean and solid mini laptop?

anonymous96:
1. Never said all Public university graduates are from "poor" household.
But no CU graduate is "poor"
Compare the Mean Income of housholds in CU nd Public Universities...
2. If one in 100 Public university graduates do masters abroad/can afford to do masters abroad, then 1 in 2 CU graduates do masters abroad/can afford to do masters abroad.
The argument is about the concentration of CU graduates in tech business.... It is simply a number games..CU students are more likely to be successful than Public university graduates.. Simple.. It is an elitist society
There is no paradox there.. u simply refuse to understand without it being explained..
You are slow(i get)
P.S it is simplistic and dumb to base an argument with the points you made (can't remember what fallacy it is)

Do you know how many CU grads have sibling in public unis ?

Shelumiel:
According to your own shallow understanding , I am dogding, but I have answered your question .Shalom

a reprobate mind.

This is what detribalized universities do. They are sending a key message. The school may be in Ota area but isn't dominated by sons of the soil.

WinningSun:
self-acclamaition and the over blowing by the media

Times Higher isn't a media outlet. Stop hating.

anonymous96:
Googled softcom and it further proved my point..
The founder finished from CU in '07, founded d Company in '07..
No public school graduate can try that in Nigeria..
P.S CU is one if not the best university in West Africa when it comes to I.T.. but the fact they dominate the tech space isn't because they are better, it is simply the opportunity they have...

Oga don't be plain dumb please.
1. Public university graduates do have siblings in private schools and if the parents of most private university graduates are rich then so public uni grads at least have rich parent.
2. Don't public uni grads proceed to do master abroad after graduation also? That makes you assertion a paradox.

Shelumiel:
Oga, it is too early for foolishness. In Matthew23:23, it is explicitly clear that Jesus was speaking to those who were still under the Law when He said they should tithe. And who was He speaking to? The scribes and Pharisees – Jews who were required to keep the Law. Jesus would never have taught the Jews to break the Law, and He would have never imposed the Law on Gentiles who were not part of the Old Covenant.
Consider all the times Jesus healed people(Matthew8:2-4). The only times we ever see Him command people to go show themselves to the priests and make the appropriate sacrifice are the times when He is speaking to Jews. He never tells Gentiles to do this. Why? Because only the Jews were under the Law! If we were to follow everything Jesus said, we would still be bringing sacrifices to the altar and following the cleansing rituals required by the Law of Moses. So Oga , stop carrying us into the bondage of the old testament.

Epistle meant to dodged questions further!

icebird25:
Covenant is just a glorified primary school..

Kids don't sign up to obey rules and stick by it. It is adult who stick by rules they consciously ascent to and that makes you wrong.

Shelumiel:
I never knew you were this shallow . Is Matthew 23:23 speaking tithe paying, do you know what cummin, anise and mint are ? Secondly was Jesus making this statement for his disciples to follow or to rebuke the pharisees and their hypcrisy regarding weighter matters ? Have you forgotten that Jesus was under the law when this proclamation was made , and that it was only after His death that the law (old testament )could became obsolete? Can you answer these questions to support your lousy belief in tithe paying?

Finally you man up but try to discuss the aspect of Cummings, anise and mint not being tithe instead of acknowledging the fact that Jesus never abolished tithe there but put judgement, mercy and faith above tithe here. If Jesus wanted to abolish tithe, he would have said that directly here.

Being the mischievous dude that you are, you claim Jesus was under the law here, then that means his teaching are largely null and void because he was under the law until after his death and resurrection.

Shelumiel:
There is nothing to dodge here : Jesus never paid tithe and there is no justification for us to pay it . Or can you show us the verse of Jesus paying His tithe ?

You dodged it again but shamelessly declared that there is nothing to dodge. What a pathetic character!

Shelumiel:
Another lie you just told : read 2thessalonians 3, where Paul was admonishing the church and it's members on how they were to compose themselves and toil. He even did this by setting an example with himself. And secondly , Acts 4 :34-37 speaks of how the early church developed and the principles the underlined . And that was the sharing of thing and donations; not tithe .

Why are you trying to feign ignorance of understanding my post and then turn around to reword my post as a reply to it? This is plain intellectual theft. You were trying to infer that that tithes was addressed in those verses and I put the trashy idea to rest by pointing out to you that those verses were there to stress need to work.
Just look at the bold alone, you contradicted yourself because after sampling that scripture to support tithe you then claimed Paul was setting an example in your bid to reword my own ideas and sell to me. Look at it very well. you messed up.

Shelumiel:
Pertinent question? That has been addressed already and the conclusions is this : Jesus never paid tithe . Period

So Jesus never paid tithe is your justification for no tithe. In all of this you skillfully dodged Mathew 23:23 and employ rough tactics.

Shelumiel:
Follow the thread sire. You will see verses from Acts4:34-37 and 2Thessalonians 3:8-10 . These verses are just a few to buttress my point. For tithe paying is not a compulsion and neither was it practice by any person in the new testament .

For a start, 2 Thessalonians 3:8-10 wasn't talking about need to pay tithes or not but about the need for all to work. and that was clearly stressed in verse 11 and 12 where the busybodies who don't work were recommended to eat the bread of their works or their idleness.
Those verses talk about work and not accommodate empty talkers or idlers.

As for Acts 4:34-37 was addressing charity. The people lacked not because they assisted themselves freely and it wasn't addressing money that funded the activities of the church.

Shelumiel:
So the gospel of charity and love has changed because of the times we live in ... ? Dude, are you for real

There you go again. trying to play smart by twisting words out of context.
What was the number of prospective admission seekers in time past compared to today. How is a church suppose to take tithes of #1,000 and turn it into subsidized service of #700,000?
Besides that doesn't change the fact that you aren't answering pertinent questions about where Jesus stopped tithe payment.

xpool:
Even if we assume that your point on Notre Same, American clergies don't voraciously solicit tithe the way we do, they don't solicit seed the way we do, they don't threaten their members to cough out their last kobo.

Who is threatening who? Please be specific and direct.

Shelumiel:
I backed up my arguments with scripture sire . It is you who failed to read through the thread . And as for tithe paying , nowhere is it mentioned that Jesus and His apostles paid it . The disciples of Jesus laid the foundation for what we preach and practice and tithe paying was not included , so shall we go on to do what was not mentioned or included for us ? Certainly no !

Please remind me of your back up scriptures.

xpool:
Because they are now run by Nigerians.

What about the ones abroad? like Notre Dame university, USA?

Shelumiel:
Of course it answers it. How ? Because the issue of Jesus (or His disciples)paying tithe was never mentioned . Only donations were made , and they were for the welfare of the poor in church not the pastors, or bishops. And come to think of it , even if Jesus paid tithe , there was no mention of His disciples paying it, neither was there any written instruction by the disciples for their members in their church to pay it . The bible is the written word of God , and God will only judge you by what is written; not what is not written.

Where exactly was tithe stopped?

I am asking these direct and important questions because the only time Jesus addressed tithe or mentioned it to best of my knowledge was Mathew 23:23, and it wasn't stopped.
You keep repeating you points without bothering to back them up. To you, the fact that Jesus didn't say it exclusively that we should keep paying tithe means we should stop it. I disagree with that.

xpool:
And building schools that where school fees are set so high that majority of the tithers can not afford.
Meanwhile, the older pastors and reverends attended free schools owned by churches established and ran by the Whites.

Please if you insist that the older church built schools and made them free, why aren't those schools free or cheap today?
We must learn to deal with reality of the times we are in fairly, and not the way you are going about it here.

Shelumiel:
Good ! Since you said it is not recorded if Jesus (or His disciples) paid tithe , then that answers your initial question . And that also finalizes of the issue. If we call ourselves Christians, and the definition of the word Christian means someone who follows the doings of Christ, then there is nothing wrong with us (Christians ) not paying tithe ; since our Lord and His disciples never paid it .

That doesn't answer my question of whether Jesus stopped tithes or not?

Shelumiel:
Did Jesus or His disciples after him pay tithe ? Please answer with scriptural backing .

Also answer the question of whether Jesus stopped tithes or not?
As for your question, It wasn't recorded that Jesus paid tithes to the best of my knowledge. That doesn't make tithe a dead issue if you ask me.

Shelumiel:
You are just a liar. Please where is it written that tithe should be paid by Christians? How can God judge us by what is not written in His word ? Please have a rethink and stop deluding yourself .

Hmmm... any supporting verses?

Shelumiel:
Please read my post clearly . It said " did the apostles pay tithes "? This is clearly a yes or no question. If Yes , were is it mentioned in the bible .

Apostles were full time ministers and I don't think they had to pay tithe from zero earning initially. In acts of the apostle, it was recorded that they sold their possessions and shared with the needy among themselves.

Shelumiel:
I seriously disagree with this chap.Tithing is an old testament law , so why are these men taking us back to the old testament ? Did the apostles of old pay tithe and first fruit ? If a person wishes to give or make a donation , he must be led by the Spirit of God; he must be convince by God to make that donation , not compelled because some clown somewhere , sees it as a means of making a good money .

Tithing isn't an old testament law man. Mathew 23:23 puts that to rest.

Freeze is a carnal preacher who interprets the bible like constitution.
In Mathew 23:23, Jesus clearly endorsed tithing and I wonder how Freeze manages to read carnal meaning into scriptures.

Continued
“Payment of Tithes is a spiritual thing; it cannot be analyzed with our gumption. These are biblical norms that must not be faulted by anyone. No one is compelled to give; we explain the principle to the people, the onus now lies on you to activate the principles. It is as simple as that. When you give your Tithe, you chase away devourers from your finances,” he said.

Freeze, who has been the chief antagonist against payment of tithes, responded on his Instagram page by saying “Bros go and rest, people ‘no dey’ fall for this thing again. There is no scriptural argument for tithing as long as Christ didn’t collect it and the disciples, our first pastors, never collected it either!”
He said “when Abram that you mentioned paid tithe in Genesis 14 to Melchizedek, he returned the remaining 90 percent to the King of Sodom where he got the loot from in the first place. I sincerely hope members of your church return the 90 percent of their salaries to their employers o, after paying you the tithe, as you ‘don turn yourself to Melchizedek.’
“By the way, you do not qualify to be Melchizedek because the scriptures described Melchizedek as a man with neither beginning nor end, ‘bros you no get beginning? No be woman born you? Bros, heed my advice, dust your CV and find work, poverty ‘dey road dey’ find you with torchlight…… very soon no one will buy into this.”

http://naijachurchnews.com/daddy-freeze-attacks-pastor-oladiyun-tithes-payment/

My advise is to go for a laptop with processor cache of at least 2mb if low on cash. A 3mb cache processor is definitively better but a 4mb ( harder to find) is even better and would run so many things.
From experience 3mb can run most IDEs.

As for other specs 250gb or more of HDD, 4gb or more of RAM, and screen of at least 1280 PX wide is manageable for development.
The key specs is Cache and most core i3 or i5 have 3mb.
Just google your exact processor model spec and you will see the cache size of your processor model.

festacman:
There is nowhere it is written in Nigerian Constitution that Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) has to congratulate a president-elect to validate his election.

Moreover, It is rather naive for a man of God and President of CAN to make this careless statement.

You can call it naive but we have seen funny moves against the church in the past.

God help us in Nigeria.

Padosky200:
if I have been given the money spent by my father on my head from year1 to NYSC to start up a business... believe me... by now I for don buy at least one car.... with many jobless people under me as apprentice

Hmmm... education goes beyond that bros...As a grad you should have it in the back of your mind that no one owes you employment and that your acquired knowledge is an asset if you decide to stand on your own as an entrepreneur and do business.

This is great way to reward hospitable communities. Not all communities will watch an organisation like Nestlé run smoothly in their land without troubles and extortion so I commend Nestlé here for giving back to the community directly.

CoolAmbience:
Thought it was Oyedepo vs The Sultan?

How did Buhari get into the picture? Isn't that diversionary? Or is Oyedepo Nigeria's President?

Besides, there aren't ten airplanes in the current PAF. Go get your facts right.

So how many jets are in the PAF?
The reason I compared Oyedepo to PMB is that he uses it for travel just like Buhari does.