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Who is a disciple of Christ?

Vickky2121:
But will they beat him

He will be treated as a thief. beating or handing over to police, all is for thieves.

hahn:
Is it not god's property? Can't a son take his father's property when he wants?

If he wants to take his fathers property it has to be with the custodians permission. Do you think Dangote's son will go and take his father's property from ones f his many companies without the MD's consent? It will be recorded as theft to the MD's operation.

Originakalokalo:
This days, you don't need to eat beancake or eat one old mama's food before joining witchcraft. you just use your two legs and join witchcraft without stress.

What has changed?

The deceit by the devil has been repackaged....

If you practice those things, you just join witchcraft all by yourself....

This body is created with restrictions in time, space , speed and knowledge....

Anything you do that makes you go beyond what the body is designed to do results in demonic possession.

It is not your ability that makes you do them....nor any method or reciting some stupid words....

You are simply taken over by the devils.

...and once you are in, there is no going back.....Then, you become a confirmed witch or wizard.

Why are you even wasting time replying that confused dude?

hahn:
The point is that since they are not as expensive as Convenant they are AFFORDABLE to civil servants which goes against the falsehood you were trying to peddle. I understand you made your comment out of blind commitment to defend Oyedepo and that is why you are having an issue following the discussion you started.



Churches don't pay tax. The money used to build the churches was raised using threats of hell fire and promises of the blessing of the Lord. But yet profits are calculated and "god's people" who raised the funds cannot afford it.

In a sane world such thing should be illegal but since religion is a tool for the elite to control the masses this medieval scam continues to be tolerated.

But hey, since mugus like you support it then no problem. I have no issue when stupid people are exploited

The problem with people like you is that mindset that with the crowd on you side you can always hold people to ransom.
Even if the whole earth gang up against Oyedepo, it will never lead to him turning tithes and seed of token into million Naira subsidy. It is simple logic and that is why I am convinced that you either a devilish or ignorant soul. Either way, you can't blackmail Oyedepo into subsidizing the whole nation with token from few people.

hahn:
The point is that since they are not as expensive as Convenant they are AFFORDABLE to civil servants which goes against the falsehood you were trying to peddle. I understand you made your comment out of blind commitment to defend Oyedepo and that is why you are having an issue following the discussion you started.



Churches don't pay tax. The money used to build the churches was raised using threats of hell fire and promises of the blessing of the Lord. But yet profits are calculated and "god's people" who raised the funds cannot afford it.

In a sane world such thing should be illegal but since religion is a tool for the elite to control the masses this medieval scam continues to be tolerated.

But hey, since mugus like you support it then no problem. I have no issue when stupid people are exploited

Can you sample one clip where Oyedepo made threat of hell for none-tithers?

Again I insist FG subsidized Federal Uni heavily. At a time CU was charging 170k, 250k, and 380k between 2002 and 2007, most Biological science department In UI for example were getting around half a million ( 500k ) as average yearly subsidy from FG. Now can you compare what obtains in UI then to CU? Never! Not even now.

Instead of hating a man who didn't use force to collect from you I think your focus should be the govt that collects more from everybody and delivers far less. Can all tax payers afford UI even with all the subsidy from FG? the answer is No and Never. What then makes you think the church can successfully take tithes and offering of token from some members and turn it into million naira subsidy that can help drive down school fees?

Use your brain more and stop fighting a battle you will never win.

Read Hebrews 11:4 and stop acting like church seeds are some from of physical wealth transfer scheme.

PrecisionFx:
Those things u listed are not spiritual things

Then what is spiritual things according to you?

PrecisionFx:
Islamic footballers who fast are unable to play well during football matches.

Same goes with office workers who are starving

Like salah and sadio mane abi? Or Yaya Toure?

InansBobo:
wow, I'm enlightened sha but my question now is, will RCCG members go 21 days dry? (no food no water) or it'd be with only water

No oh. They break everyday but some people may decide they want to do it dry?
Fasting simply connotes suppressing the flesh and things of the flesh or leisurely thing to focus on spiritual things like bible study, preachings, prayers and meditation.
In fact it isn't too cool to be fasting and still be chatting on phones for long hours or reading leisurely things.

gbishman:
Oga pastor rather than build 5000 churches why don't you share that number into two and use the other half to build affordable schools and vocational training centres. Would that not more reasonable

What do you have a govt for if Oyedepo is the one building schools and industries for you? Pay your tax to Oyedepo first and see of he won't but absolutely free schools.

hahn:
And you are reasoning with your anus. Can you share the name of the public university in Nigeria that charges the same as convenant university?

Can you share the name of the public university in Nigeria also that ranks anywhere close to Covenant University?

BTW, Federal schools get huge subsidies from govt and they still look and poultries and rank like business centers so what is your point.

baba has used loot news to demarket opposition enough already.

RipMorosini:
So you are not entitled to any mandate...
Or mandate is solely for the bald headed fraudster.


SMH

mandate isn't chocolate.

hahn:
10,000 pastors that won't be able to afford to send their children to the universities built by the church

Can all civil servants afford public schools for their children?
You guys talk like people reasoning with their kidney.

od501:
Who em 5 million churches epp! Let him establish jst 50 industries here in Nigeria Dtz all we need.

Start paying your tax to the church then.
I am sure when the church establishes industries and the end products hit market, you guys will complain that the industries aren't employing all tithe and offering payers, or that they cannot afford the final products.

Truefaith:
BEFORE THE TRUE GOD QUANTITY MEANS NOTHING:


FIDELITY TO THE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE IS THE MAIN THING TO THE GOD OF HEAVEN


David Oyedepo does not know the God of the Bible.


SORCERERS AND WITCHES HAVE NO PARTS IN TRUE CHRISTIANITY.

WORD OF FAITH AND PROSPERITY DOCTRINE DAVID OYEDEPO PREACHES ARE FROM HINDUISM, NEVER THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE.


www.thetruechristianfaith.com

Didn't apostle Paul pray more in tongues more than all his fellow apostles? In acts of the apostle when God wroth great signs and wonder the church grew and became a city without walls.

PStacks:
Church is not the motivation.

The Real motivation is Tithes and Offering.

Bad belle.

HigherEd:
Let thsm come Election is here, they are already shouting sanwoeko ati nextlevels. When the hunger hit them now they would say Adeboye is the reason their economy is bad...

They will blame Adeboye forgetting that the core poverty areas in Nigeria are the areas where people like Adeboye and Oyedepo aren't their religious leaders.

IKON360:
which company in Africa is as forward thinking as Rolls Royce?

Why can't you start a forward thinking company?

RipMorosini:
the bald headed thief

stole a brain from you?

RipMorosini:
So Oledepo is now the standard.

This year will not pass you by...

What is oledepo? The name of your shrine priest?

Can't imagine Oyedepo doing such. He even asks his members to stop giving and see if the church will lack. Let them go and learn from Oyedepo. Financial prosperity isn't by muscle oh... it is by principles.

brightnessDmed:
Strongly disagree. Corruption is the major problem of this country. Any form of corruption must be named - whether it exists in the church or elsewhere.

Corruption in the church is the church's business. Can Falz's lyrics do anything evennif this corruption truly exist in the church. Falz is a taxpayer and he should be more concerned about how our Commonwealth is used by govt and not some private church arrangement.
Let him speak about suppression of Christianity in north generally and things like States building mosques with state fund when there are Christian taxpayers in those states.
Let the devil talk about Leah Sheribu and Genocide against minorities.

nwabekeyi:
oyedepo had 3 private jets

Stop talking what you know not and visit the Lagos airport to ask few question private jet isn't a car you can sneak into a hidden premises.

Gesd:
Where is Caleb University now... after all our school fees is d cheapest... I paid 600k for architecture..

Public universities included.

Bifrost:
The idea of sorting in schools is not a a university-wide venture.
Truth is, there are scores of departments with zero tolerance for any form of sorting. However, there are departments too with bad eggs and believe me, such bad eggs have at some points been fished out and suspended like in my school (UNN).

That's not what we hear whenever public uni grads are trying to rubbish the grades awarded in private uni. They claim otherwise and I can't understand the sudden u-turn.

Rules are rules.

madridguy:
Thank God the bastard was caught. Otherwise the Fulani would have carry the blame.

You get sense at all bros?

If it was against the rules of the school then what can i say? but if not, that's oppression.

desiredhome:
An average Muslims that I know are not as greedy as these pastor worshippers, they are more contented, how many Muslim have you seen claiming God have called him and start opening his private mosque here and there? Don't just go there.
I am not inciting Christians against their leaders but that the supposed Christian leader to do the work of God so that life will be better for you and me, and and indeed a better society, not to create more poverty with their fake hope (illusion)

When you give scholarship to one out of a thousand or more is like you've done nothing. There are more poor people in the local needing help.
Rather than sending over 70% of income from their different franchise all over Nigeria to national, why not create an avenue whereby more of the income can take care of the needy in the local.
Maybe the welfare scheme only exist on paper or very insignificant.
He can't take care of everyone but when he does his bit, and others do, our country will be great.
Nigeria is too rich to be poor

Again you are dodging questions and churning out irrelevant epistles.
You claimed giving to pastors has made us poverty capital but I pointed out to you how the poorest regions within Nigeria are the ones that don't practice what you are blaming for our poverty status, and you go on another unrelated epistle. Please answer questions directly or stop disturbing me with your illogical and emotional outbursts.

desiredhome:
I think you lack understanding of what the Church is or the purpose of the Church,

I find your dodging of questions weak and consider it a escape tactic.
Simple question you can't answer with all your "understanding of what the church is and its purposes are".

desiredhome:
Does your divine property mean you should contribute your life saving for one man to live large while you live in penury?

What is wrong with you African? You claim to be more blessed for giving to your pastorprenour, yet you are the poorest in the world. Despite all the natural resources? :'

I think I have replied you earlier, it's either you are one of the scammer or one of the blind follower of this con men that just want to argue.
Stop living in illusions, face the real fact.

Until the Church have positive impact to the society, they are serving their belly not God


The housing estate you are talking about that you and over half of your members can't live in? Does Oyedepo know if people like you exist?

It's like you just learnt of emotional that is why you keep saying emotional while the facts are there.

What you people are good at is suffering and smiling

May God deliver you from these Pentecostal cabals

What about Muslims who don't give to their imams like Christians do for their pastors? Why are they poorer?
You are subtly trying to incite Christians against their leaders by coming up with these funny arguments.


@the underlined, Covenant is already the highest ranking Nigerian school. it gives scholarship to the poor and admits the best of the rest so what are you saying? The church also has welfare schemes to widows, orphans and the poor, they have health center, they have many aids or charity outreach covering many nations of the earth so what is the work of the government that has limitless resources if Oyedepo is suppose to cater for everybody? Use your brain more pal. Life doesn't start and end with ones belly.