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Wear this in Lagos or Abuja & you'll be looking for the nearest restroom to take it off.

Ok I take it back

Long story

cheikh:
cold


@cold

you have just confirmed that the troubles in Plateau/Jos is about ethnicity [/b]and [b]control of resources . Pls see the bolded above^. is ethnic not part of ethnicity?

Duh!I hate to call you dumb but i can't help it.Didn't you see the quotation marks to indicate that those are words used by politicians to deceive the public.Stop making a fool of yourself

What is this fool's problem that calls himself Mr Orinkinla.Yes Naija men wld hump anything but is it peculiar to Naija?Why don't you use both spheres of your brain when nxt you choose to reply me, k.

shotster50:
PS. Even though I do not support what those guys are doing, a lot of comments here seem to smack of envy.

Abi o,maq una free the guys abeg na their money.

So this thread hit another page & i wasn't even notified eh.Mods,am i missing something here?

Let me chime in here;

1.When are you psychologically prepared for marriage,20,21,22. . .27,29,30-when?

2.Is it when you feel you're prepared for marriage that you now make yourself available for a relationship?& how long is this courtship/dating thang supposed to run for before it ends in marriage?

3.Are you going to ask the guy if he is ready to settle down from the onset of the relationship,wldn't that be too forward & somewhat desperate?

4.In the end,what is the guarantee that the relationship will end in marriage,even after taking every neccessary precaution to guard against a heartbreak?

Bottomline:'If you're not ready for marriage,don't go into a relationship' is pure shallow thinking for parochial minds.Just let nature take its course,you can never be too careful in matters such as these.

^^Why don't you address the issues raised by Allycat & Ogbolobo.Even the devil can qoute the scriptures.

The Word of God declares that when it suits the enemy's purpose, he will through his agencies manifest so great a power under a pretence of Christianity that, "if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect" [Matt. 24:24]

This Prince is not smiling

^^With only two posts to your credit,you're questioning the credibility & maturity older Nlanders,haa i laugh in mandarin.The nerve of you.Why don't you address the issues raised rather than throwing tantrums like a two year old.Do you think there's wisdom in forsaking orthodox medicine for your so called Men of Con/God?That is the crux of the issue

What i can't fathom is;do these so called men of God set out to deliberately kill these people or do they think that by some chance they'll heal them?I beleive in miracles but the way it is practised by these con men

@Uyi Iredia,who wants to wait for 23 years before you hear your hubby speak for the first time,another Oyaks miracle (I knw that was not what you meant).@Lacrissa,how did you even meet this guy,did he chat you up?If he did i'm wondering what he said.Did you just make eye contact & you followed him like you were under a spell?Or was it the car,looks,& power dressing that attracted you to him.In any event i'd advise you to break it off now & forget any thoughts about marriage if the chemistry isn't there.Otherwise you life will be a living hell.
Oh yes lest i forget,a couple more things;is this relationship intimate or just at the platonic stage?Does he drink,alchohol that is?

^^ This is not a case of 'God Judges'.God gave you brains for a purpose,for goodness sakes use them.Jheeze!The brain is a terrible thing to waste.

@allycat,you need to keep screaming this message at the top of your voice.Take it to churches,to Ibadan express way,to healing schools,to so called synagogues,to prayer houses,etc.My people cannot continue to perish for lack of knowledge,i say enough is enough.Do this my brother/sister & you'll be richly blessed

^^ shifting ground in what sense?My initial claim was that police men are not recruited to protect banks and i still maintain my stand

I can understand where Lacrissa is coming from.Conversation has never really been my greatest asset but i'm not that bad o!Especially when i'm downing some alchohol,(jheeze!that's when i'm in my elements)I rememba when a girl once told me;'what's ur problem,don't you ever talk'?Back then i always had my mind on my money,money on my mind .

shotster50:
@ cold
let me break it down for you my thick friend. The reason why you see Armed Mobile policemen in Nigerian banks is because of the violent and repetitive  nature of the robberies,. You need to leave the[b] Black Country before their thickness  finish you oh.[/b]

Lol,now i see you just out to massage your ego.Funny i might be living close to you but you may not even know it.But i don't usually make don't make a big deal out of it. Talking about thick,you must be so dense light can't even pass through.
Once again i reiterate,it is not the job of police men to protect banks.Police men are paid with taxpayers' money,banks are private institutions thus should pay for their own security whilst the police should face their primary role of protecting the citizenry

shotster50:
@ Cold,

Please please stop. How can you compare motorbike gangs to Nigeria's 50 man gangs armed to the teeth with rocket launchers, Ak 47s and dynamite? Are you really that slow?

I might be slow but u sure are slower.Are we talking about the mode of robbery or the fact that robberies can take place anywhere,with or without the police

violent:
You don't think the circumstances are different? Do you suppose the UK is just like Lagos where thugs can carry out a 3 hours heist without being accosted or challenged?

Banks in the UK don't have policemen because they don't need to!

If robbers want want anything that bad,they'll get it

Motorbike gang raids jewellers in broad daylight on Britain's busiest shopping street


A gang of motorbike-riding robbers staged a daylight raid on one of Britain's busiest shopping streets yesterday - exactly a fortnight after a near-identical heist.

Their faces hidden by helmets, the thieves - thought to be of school age - struck in the West End of London.

One used a sledgehammer to smash a plate glass window displaying Rolex watches and gems worth tens of thousands.

Smash and grab robbery at Leslie Davis jewellers on Oxford Street

Robbery in progress: The gang smash their way into Leslie Davis jewellers while warding off shocked onlookers

Two of the gang revved their engines to a deafening level while their friends carried out the robbery at the Leslie Davis jewellers on Oxford Street.

Only two weeks ago the gang attempted a similar raid just minutes away on New Bond Street. That time they were unable to break into the shop.

Yesterday, the gang turned up on the same bikes, carried an identical yellow sledgehammer and even wore the same grey tracksuit bottoms that featured in the first heist on Watches of Switzerland.
A gang on motorbikes flees the scene of a jewellery shop robbery on Oxford Street

A 25-year-old office worker who filmed the raid on his mobile phone said he was one of 30 or 40 who witnessed it. He added: 'It was quite brazen and dramatic. The pillion passengers jumped off the back, and the drivers turned the bikes around to face out so they could get away quickly.

'One guy ran into the shop and the other started slugging the front window with a sledgehammer.

'While this was happening police car with a siren drove straight past - but did not stop. It must have been called for something else.'

The gang cleared out the window display, leaving behind about 25 price tags for designer timepieces ranging from £2,000 to £5,000. They rode off at high speed, leaving the sledgehammer behind.

After the raid the manager, who appeared calm, said: 'I was told you can't break that glass.'

The gang is thought to have escaped with tens of thousands of pounds worth of jewels and watches

Another witness, 33, who asked not to be named, said: 'Four men on two bikes entered Oxford Street from a back alley, rode up the pavement and sent people scattering in all directions.

'Two got off the bikes and it took them quite a bit of effort to get through the windows and the whole thing took about four minutes.'

He added: 'They looked like they took a lot of jewellery, which was loaded into sports holdalls, and left a sledgehammer on the ground as they escaped.
A gang on motorbikes flees the scene of a jewellery shop robbery on Oxford Street

The robbers revved their motorbikes' engines to scare off shoppers

'They took a lot of swings to get through the windows and I heard the store manager say afterwards that no one had ever managed that before.

'The whole time the getaway drivers faced the bikes west up Oxford Street and revved the engines to scare people away. As they rode off, one of the drivers popped a wheelie. It was very well choreographed.'

Police said the robbers had threatened staff but no one was injured.

They refused to reveal the value of the stolen items.

@Hisservant please do us a favor & learn to summarise.I guess the long & short of your epistle is we should store our treasures in heaven,abi

violent:
Seriously? If it's not the duty of the Police to secure banks, what then would you say their duty is?

Do you see police men protecting banks in the UK?Or are u going to comeback with a retort that the circumstances are different?

Enigma:
You think I now have time to watch Oyaks on TV? I meant I would watch something sensible on TV ---- even Nigerian Idol would be better.  

ah ah na,why are ridiculin our man of con lyk dat na.It's not fair o  

T.Moni:
Do not think you are the wise one, because you have insinuated that his "gullible follower" are fools.

I only pray that you will remain in good health all the days of your life. however its said that some people make the new while the rest are commentators, so keep commenting.

Either you like it or not, everybody has God to answer to, why not go after your own purpose for life. you will account for your own life.

I worship God not Con men ok.And FYI i'll remain in good health for a long time to come,it's a gift from God

It is most unlikely that Gen. Buhari would have accepted any allegations of rigging if the ANPP had won the 2003 presidential election. But the truth is that no party in Nigeria can claim superior morality over others where rigging is concerned. In Africa, people do not always go into politics for the sake of offering honest service but for private gain: hence the desperation to seek public office by hook or crook. If Gen. Buhari finds the existing parties as too dirty to meet his tough moral standards, he has the option to establish his own party. But does he have the resources to do so without the support of well-to-do Nigerians? And if he is ready to receive such donations from rich men, is he ready to question the sources of their wealth so as not to taint his reputation? Again, he if doesn’t need funding from crooks, does he have the capacity to raise funds from the voluntary donations of low income citizens just as Barack Obama did in the U.S.? Is Gen. Buhari ready to re evaluate his attitude to politics within the prism of common sense and pragmatism?

The way and manner Gen. Buhari behaves, creating the impression that he is the personification of democracy, leaves many discerning Nigerians asking whether the Daura General realizes the many contradictions in his politics. When he came to power in December 1983, Gen. Buhari didn’t unfold any plan to return Nigeria to democratic rule until he was toppled in a palace coup, led by his then Chief of army staff, Gen. Babangida. Ironically, this same man who didn’t believe in democracy or the will of the people is today arrogating to himself the champion of democracy,

Gen. Buhari believes only in his own virtues; he doesn’t recognize the merit in others. When he sought the ANPP presidential ticket in 2003, many other contestants were forced to step down for him, including Alhaji Umaru Shinkafi, Mr. John Nwodo and Rochas Okorocha. Many Nigerians believed that blackmailing contestants to step down is not democratic and Gen. Buhari benefited from that unfair arrangement all the same. Igbo politicians that sought the ANPP platform to realize their presidential ambitions felt frustrated by the idea of being forced to step down for Buhari and that the party is not for all Nigerians.

Despite the selection of the late Dr. Chuba Okadigbo as Gen. Buhari’s running mate, the ANPP didn’t make any significant in-road in the southeast to neutralize the PDP. In politics, you must contend with other interests. The manner Gen. Buhari was foisted on the party in 2003 left the Igbos with grudges against the party and it paid dearly for that miscalculation. There are even fears going by the utterances of Gen. Buhari’s supporters, that the new National Democratic Movement initiated by former Vice President Atiku Abubakar and Bafarawa, may run into rough waters. Even as the new opposition movement is just evolving, General Buhari’s supporters are already touting him as the inevitable choice for presidential candidate of the alliance.

Emerging press interviews and opinion articles rooting for Buhari’s candidature is like jumping the gun. Buhari’s supporters should allow the initiative consolidate before deciding the choice of presidential candidate which will be decided by more complex factors than General Buhari’s stubborn conviction of being the only one suitable to become the movement’s presidential candidate. Such posturing of Buhari’s supporters at this stage could only play into the hands of the PDP.

Considering Gen. Buhari’s stubborn conviction about his perceived unassailable moral credentials, it is unlikely if he will ever compromise his ambition for anyone else. He is not even interested in confidence building process with the rest of other Nigerians who perceive him as too narrow –minded to fit into the complex challenge of leading a diverse country like Nigeria. His careless attempt to play to the gallery during the controversy over the introduction of sharia in 2000 created crisis of confidence for the former military ruler among other Nigerians.

He publicly dissociated himself with the efforts of the National Council of State to douse the sharia tension by trying to work out a rational option for its implementation without creating problems socially and politically. With these antecedents, Gen. Buhari has a heavy political baggage to ever win the trust of Nigerians to be a President. While he is busy attacking either the competence or integrity of other political leaders, Gen. Buhari is blithely ignorant of his own serious personal political obstacles. The north alone cannot make Gen. Buhari a President. National electability is a factor Buhari and his fanatical supporters pretend does not exist. Gen. Buhari believes he is the best politician to salvage Nigeria but let him be reminded of the words of Dennis Howley who said “expecting the world to treat you fairly because you think you are good is like expecting the bull not to attack you because you are a vegetarian.”

An interesting article i just dug up from my bookmark archive


Saving Buhari from infallibility complex

One is yet to come across any occasion when Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, former military Head of state and ANPP former Presidential candidate, ever acknowledged making a mistake or admitting that others can be as good and patriotic as he. This arrogant and narcissistic tendency is enough to irritate even Buhari’s admirers, especially the discerning ones among them.

Almost daily, Gen. Buhari is quoted by one newspaper or another as saying that Nigeria is on the verge of collapse because he was not elected President. Unfortunately, he blames almost everyone, except himself, for the obstacles that undermine his repeated presidential ambition. His messiah complex and the fact that he is not a team player contributed largely to his repeated political discomfiture.

He believes he is a gift from God to Nigerians and that every other opinion on politics is inferior to his own. When a man believes he is morally superior to everyone else, how do you relate with him to understand the nuances and pragmatism of politics? As is common with most fanatics, it is impossible to reason with Buhari. In fact, Bernard Shaw was right when he said, [b]“fanatics don’t hold opinions; their opinions holds them.” [/b]The

silent but sometimes open contempt that Buhari has for fellow politicians, makes one wonder why he is in politics in the first place. Karl Marx brilliantly argued that “in politics you must form alliance with the devil to achieve the cause.”

Is politics an alliance of saints? May be Gen. Buhari thinks so! And if he does, then even the ANPP is not morally fit to accommodate him. He believes ANPP governors are thieves, yet he expects them to bankroll his presidential campaign efforts. Gen. Buhari doesn’t have the colossal resources needed to campaign and he therefore badly needs the support of Governors and other rich men of his party to campaign effectively across the country.

It is on record that he alienated ANPP Governors and other financial backers because of his disdain for them. His personal popularity alone didn’t help him to have his candidate emerge as the National Chairman of the ANPP. The candidate nominated by the Governors eventually emerged the party National Chairman. Consensus and compromise are not in Gen. Buhari’s dictionary; hence it is not surprising why his presidential ambition suffers frequent set - backs.

Politics is beyond good intentions and Gen. Buhari needs to take a hard look at his chimerical approach to politics. He once boasted that he would never have anything to do with politics but once he ultimately found himself in it, he must attune himself to the reality of it.

Ploughing a lonely furrow is not in the nature of politics because you need allies and friends and of course the men of substance or means. When U.S Republicans were out for former President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal, despite his public apology, a pro- democratic lady wrote to Time Magazine condemning the hypocrisy of politicians. She argued that if American insists on rigid moral standards in politics, they should vote for a Pope in the next election!

Defining politics within rigid moral standards can run into practical difficulties. For example, the Bible says we should love our enemies! But in the reality of politics, that is almost always difficult to practice. Gen. Buhari himself is known to be vindictive and that explains why he has a deep-seated grudge against Gen. Babangida for removing him from power. Despite all the semblance of reconciliation with Babangida, his animosity against the Minna General still runs deep, at least privately. But the same Buhari forgot that he toppled former President Shehu Shagari and threw him into detention despite his proven honesty. Yet Shagari was ready to put that behind him and relate with Gen. Buhari cordially.

Gen. Buhari is a bundle of contradictions. He once described politics as dirty and that he would not touch it with the bargepole. But today he is neck-deep in politics. Prior to his involvement in politics, Gen. Buhari engaged in many tactless acts. For example, he triggered a controversy when he was quoted to have urged Muslims to vote for fellow Muslim politicians during a book launch in Sokoto. Despite the grave implications of such tactless comment from a former Head of state, Gen Buhari felt no need to publicly deny the report. Instead, concerned friends and other opinion leaders had to reach out to Gen. Buhari personally to verify the report. Rev. Mathew Hassan Kukah was one of those concerned leaders that met Buhari to confirm the allegation.

His indifference to the controversy was damaging his reputation insidiously, but he didn’t realize the extent of that damage until he joined the 2003 presidential race. Gen. Buhari found himself stopping over at churches in the course of his electioneering campaign to reassure Christians that he was quoted out of context. One of his arguments was that he spoke in Hausa and the reporter who quoted him doesn’t understand the language to accurately represent his opinion.

Unfortunately, such damage control church visits didn’t significantly change Gen. Buhari’s perception as a religious bigot who shouldn’t be trusted to rule a multi- ethnic and multi- religious country like Nigeria. His desperate church visits were like locking the stable door after the horse has bolted! His reassurances to Christians didn’t cut any ice with those having serious doubts about his broad-mindedness and liberal attitude in a complex society like Nigeria. Consequently, majority of the predominantly Christian south was not ready to stake their votes with Gen. Buhari. In fact, his political rivals even exploited his tactless comment by printing posters, portraying him as a man determined to Islamize Nigeria. Such contagion of fear about Gen. Buhari spread out of control across the south and among Christian minorities of the north. Despite the unpopularity of Gen. Obasanjo in 2003, Christians would rather elect him for second term than trust Gen. Buhari to replace him.

Obsessed with a messiah moral superiority complex, Gen. Buhari is not even ready to come to terms with his own problems. Many fear that he would have been worse than Obasanjo and would have had difficulties working with the National Assembly and other politicians. His obdurate posture and a stubborn conviction of being the best for Nigeria wouldn’t allow him appreciate the virtues in other politicians. How do you then save Gen. Buhari from himself and make him accept the limitation of his style in politics?

In his broadcast during the military coup that brought him to power on December 31 1983, Gen, Buhari declared as follows: “the last general election could be anything but free and fair; all the political parties rigged the election according to the resources available to them.” That was Gen. Buhari in his own words 25 years ago and one wonders whether his entry into politics has changed that reality. Both ANPP (his own party) and the PDP rig according to their strengths or resources.

ifyalways:
There are private security outfits in the country.
Individual banks now have to secure themselves.

My thoughts exactly.It is not the job of police men to secure banks,the wrong way of doing things have been so enmeshed in our thoughts and daily life it has become routine

Joagbaje:
Kunleee ! Come in na! I am inside , I will get you a ticket come and see for yourself. The word of God is real . Mind blowing testimony . More than enough to verify. I don't know if the auditorium is filled . I can smuggle you in.

    omg,Kunlee go now & rcv your miracles.You don't knw what you're missing  
On the real tho,whilst this man is a reknowned con man. Who do we blame for this massive fraud;the man of con, sorry God or the gullible followers of a fraud running after him in search of miracles?I feel for my people

I need to read what JoAgbaje has to say about this

^^I had made up my mind i was going pound for pound with you today.So if you honestly think i'm going to back down for you then you're sorely mistaken.I've got time,as a matter of fact i've got nothing but time.Let's play your game.
As per the issue,you've been fed so much lies you have accepted this critical mass of lies as the truth.I feel for you

You don't know any better

^^And as far as the truth is concerned,you're abysmally ignorant in this case

^^ believe what you want.It is inconsequential to the issues raised.I'm more interested in the true state of affairs & not what you choose to believe is the truth