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jes7:
I wish you are asking out of a sincere desire to know the truth. To answer your question, you should know that God is the all-wise and merciful God, at every point in time He reaches out to everyone so that in judgement no one would say he did not know the truth. Acts 17:30-31. God knows those who are sincerely searching for him and in every age and every time, He will reveal himself to them. Maybe you should leave others and ask yourself if God has tried to reach out to you. I believe He has!

You didn't even make any attempt to answer any of my questions. But what really caught my attention was your last line; leave others and think only about myself. That mindset is very unhealthy. I'm an altruist,always looking out for others. Probably this is the main reason why i can't reconcile my thoughts with your religious beliefs. Sorry i can't leave others to burn in eternal torment whilst i'm in some paradise singing and dancing.

her case still dey supreme court

ifeness:
The word "God" is dangerous. I wouldn't use it at all.

Lol..roger that

Haaa! I'm just here wondering,at what point do we turn our anger on Buhari if this situation persists? 30 days? 60 days? 90 maybe. Buhari you need to up your game. As you might have noticed by now,it is easier to criticise from the outside than it is from the inside.

ifeness:
Intelligence mean knowledge and evidence. Is the world flat as the bible claimed? No! For me to convince you I will need to prove it. When we now know the Bible lied on that one and that is a big let down. How can we trust the rest,especially the claim that God,a depressing phenomenon, created humans.

What i mean is they may believe in the concept of a god but not the mode of worship

jes7:
Read Romans 2. The bible states that our ancestors who did not have the word of God will be judged based on their conscience, because God's law is written on our conscience.

If the conscience of our ancestors sufficed for them at the time. Why can't that same conscience suffice for us at this present time? What changed? Or are you going to give me the coming of Christ story?Why do we need a god to get anything done? And while you're at it,can you please explain to me why you think a Jewish traditional mode of worship handed down to us by the missionaries supercedes the indigenous beliefs of our predecessors. What if told you Amadioha is superior to Yahweh? I'm you'd have non of it. You'd do well to explain why.

ifeness:
Intelligent people don't believe in God. I will start praying to be less intelligent to the level of Moses lol

Well that may not be entirely accurate. There are very intelligent folks who believe in god. Does that mean god exists? The answer is a categorical no! What if told these people praising god on this thread that the Shiva goddess is the source of all life form? I'm a 100% sure they'll dismiss my claim with a wave of the hand. Labelling me fetish and superstitious.This is exactly my problem with theists. They fail to realise that for the exact same reason(s) they dismiss other gods is why i dismiss theirs.

Gaddem!

ifeness:
And you actually met God......Ok show me where God is?

Lol..how dare you! Can you stand the sight of god if you see him? Brother don't incur the wrath of god,you may not live to regret it. Just turn off your brain and believe. No questions asked. You cannot question god,the lord works in mysterious ways. His ways are not our ways. So brother once again,be careful what you say about Mr Yahweh

Hmm..the Lord works in mysterious ways

TheDauraMallam:
Perfect. The fail to realize they worship out of fear and not because they want to.

“There exists in society a very special class of persons that I have always referred to as the Believers. These are folks who have chosen to accept a certain religion, philosophy, theory, idea or notion and cling to that belief regardless of any evidence that might, for anyone else, bring it into doubt. They are the ones who encourage and support the fanatics and the frauds of any given age. No amount of evidence, no matter how strong, will bring them any enlightenment. They are the sheep who beg to be fleeced and butchered, and who will battle fiercely to preserve their right to be victimized… patent offices handle an endless succession of inventors who still produce perpetual-motion machines that don't work, but no number of idle flywheels will convince these zealots of their folly; dozens of these patent applications flow in every year. In ashrams all over the world, hopping devotees of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will never abandon their goal of blissful levitation of their bodies by mind power, despite bruises and sprains aplenty suffered as they bounce about on gym mats like demented (though smiling) frogs, trying to get airborne. Absolutely nothing will discourage them.”


― James Randi

Succinctly put. I couldn't put it more eloquently even if i tried. But the way these guys hold on tenaciously to their beliefs is mind boggling. On a second thought,i may want to give them some reprieve considering i was once in their shoes. Indoctrination can have a strangle hold on someone to a point you're ready to die for what you believe to be true. How i broke that hold is still a mystery.

plaetton:
Grand eloquence.

Thanks. We need to put these things out there

Oduduwaboy:
Something ? i hope you are not talking of pus .sy cos Buhari wife is younger & finer !

But you know that has never really stopped anyone from trying something new na. Anyways,just trying to help sha.

This thread is about to go to pieces

TheDauraMallam:
Dump that fear of judgement for a week. And live your life the way you want others to treat you for a week.

You will understand the mindset of an atheist after the test.

They'll never get it. It's a lost cause seriously. The whole premise of a god deity is predicated upon fear of the unknown. The only reason these folks can do any good in this world is hinged upon fear of being tormented for eternity in the afterlife. I honestly cannot in good conscience serve a god who threatens me with eternal torment in the here after. I am good without god. And for the record,i don't need a second life. I'm not greedy. This life well lived suffices for me.

haibe:
are you here for joke? Am busy atm pls, so don't let me waste my time on u

Velocitron:
Sorry, not even sure I understood your question(?) in the first place. Anyways, I'm done here, I have an exam to prepare for.

Very typical. Have a good day to you both. Enjoy your delusions

Velocitron:
That's why we all have consciences.

Romans 2 The Message Bible

12-13 If you sin without knowing what you’re doing, God takes that into account. But if you sin knowing full well what you’re doing, that’s a different story entirely. Merely hearing God’s law is a waste of your time if you don’t do what he commands. Doing, not hearing, is what makes the difference with God.

14-16 When outsiders who have never heard of God’s law follow it more or less by instinct, they confirm its truth by their obedience. They show that God’s law is not something alien, imposed on us from without, but woven into the very fabric of our creation. There is something deep within them that echoes God’s yes and no, right and wrong.

Which god are you referring to? I'll hazard a guess and say you're referring to the Yahweh deity of the Jews. You still fail to recognise that before the advent of the white man,our predecessors had never heard of the Yahweh god. So how will they judged using your yardstick of a different god virtually unknown to them.

Assuming 20 people get blown to pieces everyday for the first 100 days when Buhari might have been ready. That adds up to 2000 people for starters o! Dayum! Hit the ground running must have a new meaning.

haibe:
I believe they were saved according to their faith.. Gof must have been speaking to them too

How?

Velocitron:
Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ. No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that one pivotal event in the history of the world. Christ's death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints.

The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one's faith for salvation has always been God. The psalmist wrote, “Blessed are all who take refuge in him” (Psalm 2:12). Genesis 15:6 tells us that Abraham believed God and that was enough for God to credit it to him for righteousness. The Old Testament sacrificial system did not take away sin, as Hebrews 10:1-10 clearly teaches. It did, however, point to the day when the Son of God would shed His blood for the sinful human race.
Source

Does this also apply to our ancestors that died before the advent of the white man. Taken into consideration they weren't worshipping the Yahweh deity but had their own gods. Or has their fate been sealed?

You cannot question god. End of story. This is most likely the best response you'll get here.

Yes na

Deziani just give Buhari 'something' to calm his frayed nerves. Otherwise this will not end well for you o! I don talk my own finish.

Ok we thank god.now to the tough question.Why does God create sick babies or babies with disabilities? If god is the creator of life and that he is such a loving god as claimed by Christians and other theists , why does god create sick babies or babies with disabilities? Questions begging for answers.

Mmayor:
I have doubts about you ever being Christian sir! there is a great difference between going to church and being Christian, please for the sake of clarity can you tell us which category you belonged?

Yeah right. Typical theist mindset. Anyone who breaks ranks with you folks was never part of you. 'You were never part of us!' They scream. The interpretation of that is such a person was never really indoctrinated fully with the garbage from either of the so called 'Holy books'. How dare one has the chutzpah to break ranks with what is generally considered normal? Such a person was never really part of us in the first place.
It is the same idiosyncrasy you apply amongst yourselves. It is always the other guy that is not a true Christian,it is always the other pastor that is not a true man of god,it is always the other denomination that is preaching the false doctrine,it is always someone else that has his biblical interpretations twisted,it is always somebody else that is a churchgoer and not a true christian. But you,no not you. You're an epitome of everything a Christian should be,heaven bound and all..sigh

I'll ask god to show thyself and explain why he thinks it is justified to watch people kill and killed in his name. While he's at it,he should just go ahead and tell us which religion is the right one and the fit and proper way to worship him. This singular act by god would save millions of lives

Let me play the Devil's Advocate here. I think how it works is Buhari declares his assets with the Code of Conduct Bureau,the bureau will now have to verify that the claims contained in the Asset Declaration form are true and unambiguous. If the claims hold up to scrutiny,the CCB now gives the nod to whom ever is concerned. It is now entirely up to that person to either go public or not. So yes i'll say it's still early days on this one but we'll see

There are over 5000 active gods today but not to worry,yours must be the right one.

Is this even necessary? They're both soldiers,serving their country. What's with the comparison? So petty.

The bitter truth is our league is so poor it's not even funny. If the FA had allowed the league to grow from the days of 3SC,Plateau United,Mighty Jets,Rangers,Iwauyanyu National etcl till date. Who would bother with the English league. Can't blame FIFA, most Nigerian refs can't compete with their counterparts from other parts of the world

These are the kind of things we expect Buhari to change

bogs4real:
Guilty conscience yes, but Jonathan was hesitant too and that means Jonathan feels betrayed...more so what's with the ever live grin Jonathan was wearing yesterday

If he didn't wear a grin and kept a straight face,you'd still make a meme with something like 'that awkward moment when you know you're no longer president'. One simply can't win around these parts.