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Benita27:
It depends on your definition of "unfaithful". I don't see that as one, and my conscious won't judge me if I'm doing that.

don't wait until ur judge by ur subconscious cos some people have silenced theirs

OtemAtum:
There are many afterlives . It all lies on you the one you want for yourself. You can even create one for yourself and it's yours. If you can imagine one
so it shall be for you.

WE CREATE OUR LIFE AFTER HERE, SAME AS WE CREATE NIGHTMARES FOR OURSELVES BY FEAR.

do we possess such power to procreate through imagination? if yes y are we not creating wealth n riches through imaginary creation

Oyindidi:
God NOSE best

na nose be ur softspot? jus askin

Benita27:
There's no guarantee that the one you're in would end in marriage. Keep the prospective bf around since you like him. If you're not confessing love, kissing or sleeping with him, it's not cheating. Use the time to study him better, anything could happen.

No one should quote me with rubbish, please.

wat u are prescribing is a medicine called unfaithfulness. be guided pls

OtemAtum:
To know more about God, study just two things...
Yourself
&
Nature

You will realise God

with this any hope for life hereafter

OtemAtum:
if you do meditation, you will see God through yourself. We are manifestations of God.

yes but to wat extent

OtemAtum:
look deep into yourself. Meditate. The God is one with you.

just like dat

Marchman:
3. Pastor Chris is the orthodoxy
In CE, Pst Chris is the standard; he is the orthodoxy of the word of God. He is in fact treated like God. His words are law. He could cancel engagements, delay marriages and, in my mother’s language, can do and undo!
Everything revolves around him. He has limitless powers and not inhibited by anything.

And what do they say about absolute power corrupts absolutely?

Exactly what you have in the church. No one dares challenge him. In a godly environment, there should have been some enquiry in to the crisis of his marriage with the objective to mend the issues. But no one dares even raise such issues. People like Joe Agbaje are prepared to lie for him. I recall a time when the issue of PST Chris living separately from his wife came up here, Joe Agbaje defended him, claiming that the couple see often and even go on romantic get-away. It was not true. To all intents and purpose, the man abandoned his wife and family in London while gallivanting around the world with his concubines. This was wrong, but who could challenge the KING? The man had also warned members never to discuss pastors and that they should run away where such matters are being discussed. What you have is a situation where people are so afraid to even consider the allegations against him, so as not to be consumed by fire! SMH!!!

With such a context, the man can get away with anything, including polygamy. He can rewrite the bible, claiming that some portions or verses were not clearly written. He can do ANYTHING, and the staunch members and the pastors would defend him. I mean ANYTHING.

They deify him, call him the ‘Jesus in white suit,’ ‘the Jesus of our time’ and such heresies.
Two personal experiences really got me worried.

A. I was in church one day when a leader in a talk show said, “Pst Chris is not only in Ikeja or Lagos. His spirit is even here right now’’. I was shocked by the comments and obvious deification of a mere mortal. But when the pastor came up, he did not rebuke the speaker or said anything about it. I left for home, thinking hard: What has happened to these people?
B. Th other one was during prayer. The person leading the prayer asked us to pray so that the message of PST Chris will take over the world. Message of Pst Chris? I asked myself. I thought we came there because of the gospel/message of Christ? Does Pst Chris have a different message? Of course, I didn’t participate in that prayer but I was shocked that no one saw anything wrong in this, which validated my growing belief that the church was veering out of the Christian lane into something else.

I will stop here for now. But if challenged by the minions of the church, I have more arsenals. Good day and God bless you.

@Op ur observations are apt, but u channel ur observations tru the wrong direction. also remember that he is a mere mortal. pls do him a fovour and write him, pointing out all this ur observations. hope u haven't forgotten that iron sharpeneth iron, so a man sharpens the countenance of his wife.

Marchman:
2. Sin Means Nothing at CE
Their teaching regarding to sin is so liberal. They rarely even mention it. The belief is that a Christian cannot sin, but only do wrong. The implicit message here is that ‘if you are saved, you are always saved’. You are a son of God and nothing you do or do not do can change the fact. In other words, heaven is sure. I am really not versed in the Bible to argue with this but what I know is that, this teaching is dangerous. It is like giving one a blank cheque or immunity from sin. What you have is a morally decadent church, starting from the top. Sexual sins are so rampant. You must have read the allegations of Pst Anita against her husband, that he was screwing some top female pastors. Such allegations are common in the church and I believe Pst Anita was very naïve in not understanding what was happening under her nose for decades!

It is not just PSt Chris that has been accused of fornication; his younger brother Rev Ken was also accused of impregnating a member of the South African Church when he pastored it. My friend who was in the church at that time (he also has left) told me that in all practical terms, Rev Ken had a harem in SA, with all manners of girls, mainly young university girls, living in his house. His wife was leading the church at Isolo, Lagos at that time. Apart of the Oyakhilome brothers, sin (or wrong-doing since a Christian cannot sin, according to their belief) is very common among the pastors and laity. Including me. I did a lot of things I’m not proud of as a leader, including fornication. But what struck me is that I was going numb, conscienceless in the church. No message speaks to my struggles to stay upright and not to sin. They do not even talk about such things. The focus of the messages is often on how to be successful, perhaps so you can give more money!

In summary, at CE, sin means nothing!

@Op ur observations are apt, but u channel ur observations tru the wrong direction. also remember that he is a mere mortal. pls do him a fovour and write him, pointing out all this ur observations. hope u haven't forgotten that iron sharpeneth iron, so a man sharpens the countenance of his wife.

Marchman:
I have not posted in a while but if you have followed my previous posts, you would know that I used to attend Christ Embassy Church, even though I had reservations about some of their teachings. I finally left the church, phew!
I will use this thread to explain why I quit the church and why I may never attend another Pentecostal/Charismatic church which now appears to me like a sole proprietorship, with the General Overseer or lead pastor as the owner.

1. Excessive premium on Giving money

In Christ Embassy the number one thing they lay emphasis on is giving money. The church can use any tactic to get money from members, including manipulation, threats and the likes. While there is nothing wrong with giving money or time, I believe everything should be balanced and moderate. I think that was why St Paul said we should not give out of target, or threat but as we decide in our heart. In CE, there is nothing like moderation or balance when it comes to giving. They tend to believe literally that everything answers to money. You don’t have a job, give and sow seed. You are infertile, give and sow seed. Your father is sick, give and sow seed. Every message ends with a charge to give money. They collect tithes, offerings, partnerships (money), seeds (more money), first fruits (your whole income in January) and plethora of others.

You are also charged to give for Pastor Chris’s birthday and for all the other pastors. And for projects and the likes too.

Before I started worshipping with the Church, I read the story of the account clerk at the Sheraton Hotel who stole from his employers to give to the church. As a member, I could relate with the man. The Church is obsessed with money. They do not mind how or where you get it. If you want to rise or be noticed or win awards, just give big money. It is this obsession with money that led it to start collecting gate fees from members for its New Year Service at the LoveWorld Convocation Arena in Lagos, which ironically was built by the offerings of the members charged to get in. A lot of people I know personally had gone broke, had their businesses ruined, or fallen out with a loved one because of this teaching by the church.

In summary, at CE, money is everything- EVERYTHING.

@Op ur observations are apt, but u channel ur observations in the wrong direction. also remember that he is a mere mortal. pls do him a fovour and write him, pointing out all this ur observations. hope u haven't forgotten that iron sharpeneth iron, so a man sharpens the countenance of his wife.

bigtt76:
Toh! You've said it all. The Church today has become an avenue of theatrical acts and followers hip rather than fellowship. The pastor's word supercedes God's word these days hence we now have pastors being called daddy or mummy.

Their photographs now are a source of protection to our homes or properties. It has become the equivalent to the mark of blood God directed the Israelite to have on their door posts while preparing to leave Egypt.

We blame a religion that kill in the name of their God but the truth is some church members would do same not for their God but their pastors.

@Op ur observations are apt, but u channel ur observations in the wrong direction. also remember that he is a mere mortal. pls do him a fovour and write him, pointing out all this ur observations. hope u haven't forgotten that iron sharpeneth iron, so a man sharpens the countenance of his wife.

Marchman:
2. Sin Means Nothing at CE
Their teaching regarding to sin is so liberal. They rarely even mention it. The belief is that a Christian cannot sin, but only do wrong. The implicit message here is that ‘if you are saved, you are always saved’. You are a son of God and nothing you do or do not do can change the fact. In other words, heaven is sure. I am really not versed in the Bible to argue with this but what I know is that, this teaching is dangerous. It is like giving one a blank cheque or immunity from sin. What you have is a morally decadent church, starting from the top. Sexual sins are so rampant. You must have read the allegations of Pst Anita against her husband, that he was screwing some top female pastors. Such allegations are common in the church and I believe Pst Anita was very naïve in not understanding what was happening under her nose for decades!

It is not just PSt Chris that has been accused of fornication; his younger brother Rev Ken was also accused of impregnating a member of the South African Church when he pastored it. My friend who was in the church at that time (he also has left) told me that in all practical terms, Rev Ken had a harem in SA, with all manners of girls, mainly young university girls, living in his house. His wife was leading the church at Isolo, Lagos at that time. Apart of the Oyakhilome brothers, sin (or wrong-doing since a Christian cannot sin, according to their belief) is very common among the pastors and laity. Including me. I did a lot of things I’m not proud of as a leader, including fornication. But what struck me is that I was going numb, conscienceless in the church. No message speaks to my struggles to stay upright and not to sin. They do not even talk about such things. The focus of the messages is often on how to be successful, perhaps so you can give more money!

In summary, at CE, sin means nothing!

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OtemAtum:
God created the Universe.
This is not a god of any religion, but the one who created all things, including all the gods of religion.


https://www.nairaland.com/2938907

so how do I approach this God that created the universe

OtemAtum:
Allah and Yahweh share violence in common. Remember how Yahweh killed Uzza for touching the ark in a reflex action. If Yahweh who they claimed owns nature, and Uzza answered the call of nature(unintentionally o) and the same Yahweh killed him through holy slap for answering his call of nature, then tell me how fair the Yahweh is.

BTW, Allah and Yahweh are both bound in a spiritual cage until Africans and the whole world have widened up to know that the two evil gods are not the God Almighty who created the universe and the multiverse.

then tell me who created the universe? I want to no n probably follow him

OtemAtum:
Good one. They justify killing for simple things. Thunder fires Allah, Yahweh and other bad gods in Otem's name I pray.

u don't even have a name. u were given a name in ur ignorance

ebosetaled22:
A Pakistani judge has sentenced a man to be executed after he was expelled 17 times from 6 different mosques.

The man was sentenced for excessive farting during the period of the Ramadan reports the Islamabad Herald this week.

The Ramadan is the most important religious festival for Muslims and the judge declared that he had indisposed people of the faith and even caused 53 people at one time to leave the mosque during a prayer, a “blasphemous act” which should be punished “according to Allah’s will.”

The judge was lenient, have admitted many experts in the region, as he gave the convicted man the choice of being beheaded or stoned to death.

“The law is clear, he should be stoned to death, beheading is a very light sentence and saves him from any suffering,” protested the government prosecutor.

Deputy District Public Prosecutor (DDPP) Syed Anees Shah told reporters the accused got a "very light sentence" for the crime of blasphemy.

Muhammad Al-Wahabi, 33, suffers from chronic flatulence, “a rare medical condition” he argued in his self-defense, as no lawyer would take his case.

“No lawyer is crazy enough to bet his career on this issue. If his client his condemned, as in this case, the lawyer would face prosecution and possibly the same faith as his client” admits legal expert Andrew Jones, a Middle Eastern law expert.

Al-Wahabi did not contest the judgment and even said the judgment was fair and that he hoped Allah would be gracious enough to pardon his blasphemous actions.

Al-Wahabi also admitted that he put a tampon in his rectum several times in a desperate attempt to mask the noise and odor.

“A disgraceful and insidious act” the judge declared, visibly disgusted.

“Muslims are not allowed to insert any objects inside their anus, not even a finger, it is forbidden by the Koran,” said the judge.

“As a judge, I must set an example for other Muslims. This is clearly unacceptable under Shariah law,” he concluded.

and u believed him

thornapple:
Hmmmmm,
Collins the matchmaker.
How many men are good?. Speak for yourself o not orhers.
That you are good doesn't mean others are.
Have met couple of terrible ones here like one Yoruba guy that acts like he smokes hemp.
Any lady hoping for hook up here is on her own o

thanks for the compliment. but all I no is DAT men are good more than women. how has ur day been?

thornapple:
See how nice a guy can be.
What do you think, Kjhova, my erudite lawyer?.
cc:
kjhova, darbeelicous,
yomi007k, Biodex58, Collyno82, ZarZar, Nickymezor.

he is really nice. I recommend him. in general terms men are good

thornapple:
Good day the one and only Collins.
I've been here and there.
Never knew i could stay this long in this forum but now there is no exit in sight for now.
How has life been with you?.

Cool. God has been f8fu. Pls don't exit ooh. I cherish ur presence here. cheers

chidi4eze:
Amaechi even made d wife a judge

but someone else made Amechi. don't talk as if he falls from the sky. if I may ask wats the relationship with his own "god n maker'' Peter Odilli

cute

was the essence of stripping a madwoman

can't remember the last time I snored. is a taboo in my place

one of the things that turns me on in a woman. over 90% ladies in Nairaland have stretch marks

seguno2:
Stop reading things with a SIMPLEX mindset.
That is a friendly advice, in case you are wondering.

not at all. still want to no the correlation BTW a leaking airport roof n a senator who is involved in a sex scandal. pls u n pidgin2 should stop compounding little issues. always endeavour to treat issues in its realistic terms

seguno2:
Do you have a comprehension problem or you are simply too lazy to read the comment fully?
Did you not see where she said that Nigerian youths who are complaining about the airport's condition were also defending the ex-governor of Yobe state and current senator who was fcvking away their legislative mandate instead of making laws to reduce their UNEMPLOYMENT and suffering.
Always read properly before you comment.
Look before you leap.

so invariably ur saying we should also be clapping for a leaking airport roof just because some uninformed youths are clapping for a senator who is involved in a sex scandal? Noway. this is not the Nigeria our forefathers dreamt about. Good morning sir.

Pot Of Soup POS mbok

Benita27:
I'm not in that school of thought that soft drinks causes diabetes.

u don't need to be in that school of thought to believe an assertion that is true. it is a statement of fact. Y not try Barinjager or American Honey

Benita27:
I do soft drink. Maltina will do.

beware of diabetes

Pidgin2:
Why is it that we like to make mockery of our own thing? Every fault is magnified, no wonder we are so confused and lack direction.

You will see people spewing filth about the country because airport roof is licking same people who will applaud former minister and past governor of Yobe state for sleeping with two women at once, glass plate fall on y'all

so we should say all is well, wen we no that things are falling apart

thornapple:
Nice one from a good Nigerian.
I saw ur comment weeks earlier but mistook you for another good friend, collyno82.
I like ur opinion but will you maintain it knowing she actually deceived you all along by not revealing the truth about her past?.

good evening to my lovely one thornapple. were have u been? haven't seen ur posts lately. I hope all is well. happy nu month

really n u think the best gift is medicines? God forbid