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elampiro: Did you just compare Junuzaj vs Pogba in world cup 2014 in Brazil? P
OMG! I give up.


Januzaj first season for Man United 2013/14= played in the world cup.
Paul Pogba 2011/12 first season for Man United = he was still playing junior football for France.

another daft analogy!
there was no world cup in 2012 to start with & the geriatric SAF didn't give pogba the kinda opportunity that moyes gave januzaj.

pogba played a total of 71 minutes for united in 11/12. how many minutes did januzaj play for united last season? almost 3 seasons on NL and you still argue like a witless apprentice

elampiro: So you implied Pogba should have benched Anderson and Clevreley, the two best european duo of 2011? Coogar must hear this.

I give up.

nobody is saying pogba should have benched anderson/cleverley in 11/12. SAF actually promoted pogba but he refused to play him when cleverley & anderson got injured.

the opportunity to assess pogba presented itself & SAF refused to take it. we played js park/rafael in a midfield & pogba was on the bench. there's no way the combination of park/rafael would be better than pogba in the central midfield.......

we lost that game & it could be argued that game cost us the title in 11/12.

Pogba left united, went to juve and became world class INSTANTLY.

He didn't take 2/3 seasons to develop.
What magic did conte use?

edo magic mixture that mikuz gave pogba - if pogba is shyte in united as at 2012......how did he guide france to under-21 world cup & even won the golden ball in that tournament?

conte must be a magician!

elampiro: Stand out from youth team ko good debut ni.
Why did we not promote Macheida after he rescued us against Villa?

you are a bush man
so you think a flash in the pan performance like macheda & januzaj can be compared to pogba/morrison winning the FA youth cup?

what has januzaj won for united? please roll out januzaj's credentials and let's compare to pogba/morrison. less than a year after pogba left us, he guided france to under-21 world cup - he was the best player of the tournament.

how can an unready player in 2012 suddenly become ready to conquer his peers in a FIFA-organised tournament. you have told us serie a is weak & you told us pogba wasn't ready in 2012.

so how did pogba transform from shyte to a world class player in 11 months in a weak serie a league? it's either you are trolling for the sake of it or your residual knowledge has failed you once again.

See your hypocrism:
Young/Valencia/Nani vs Januzaj = Januzaj is not ready.

Scholes/Carrick/Giggs/Anderson/Cleverley/Rooney = Pogba was more than ready.

pogba is 100% better than januzaj. morrison is 100% better than januzaj. if SAF was still here, januzaj would still be playing for the under-18. moyes promoted januzaj not SAF so stop comparing apples to oranges.

we saw januzaj & pogba in brazil - pogba looked outstanding & januzaj was a deer in the headlights whenever he came on. januzaj is not ready for united. he's in the team cos all our wingers decided to lose form at the same time.

PietroRico: elampiro at times ehn, the things he says
It's best to just laugh them off.
You dey really try.

Imagine thinking oshea(makeshift king) was a better midfielder than pogba
That's like calling masherano a better defender to verane.

elampawa talks lots of shyte all the time. instead of keeping quiet or admitting he's amnesiac, he would just fabricate rubbish & stand by it.

pogba was a stand-out performer in our youth team. him alongside morrison. i refused to subscribe to MUTV when both players left. there's no one in our academy that is 40% as talented as pogba/morrison & there may never be.


there are plenty things i admire in SAF but he was a big big assholë for letting pogba/morrison go. he set united back for his own selfish reasons. he didn't admit immediately letting stam go was a big error so i ain't expecting SAF to admit anything for now but i am sure he would confess later on his death bed!

PietroRico:
If the bebe and macheda were world class, inter and juve would have come for them. It's that simple.

succinctly put!


Antonio Conte
“Pogba is a modern player, as he is strong, fast and has stamina. He’s also humble, so listens to the advice given by me and by his team-mates. I saw his interviews in which he said he wanted to become the best in the world. I am happy with that, because in my view he can be the best.”

Didier Deschamps
“He is a warrior with a good spirit, He has everything it takes.”

Patrick Vieira
“Pogba's more offensive than me and perhaps better technically. I saw him play for Manchester United. That Manchester City did not take him when he left was a mistake because he is an extraordinary player.”
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yet, elampiro is talking nonsense & relying on his poor residual knowledge to make useless points.

this was how the history books described pogba's league debut at old trafford & yet elampiro is lying through his teeth that pogba was not ready.......


It was obvious, too, when he came on wearing the number 42 shirt for Manchester United on his Premier League debut, in a 2-0 win over Stoke in 2012. Immediately, Pogba demanded the ball from Paul Scholes.

In 18 minutes he whipped in three dangerous crosses and bamboozled Dean Whitehead with a wonderful turn and shimmy down the right hand side. The Old Trafford crowd applauded the skinny teenager standing before them, strutting around with the chest-out confidence of his compatriot Eric Cantona. They knew.

elampiro: When you have lost an argument, you resort to calling people liars. I could have as well go and dig up Pogba's matches to back my claim. I am just saying what I saw of him, just as I saw Diouf, Bebe, Tosic, Machaida. Among the above it's only Macheida's Villa game that I can remember off hand, but their abilities remains in my memory.

lost which argument?
you don't even have any evidence of pogba playing badly that season to deserve sitting on the bench for rafael.

you are just using your residual memory & from what we have seen here, your residual memory is never reliable. united didn't concede a goal in all the league games pogba played in 11/12. so how's he not ready?

how's a player that put up outstanding performances in the FA youth cup not ready to play for united in the league & yet rafael & js park were considered ready to play in the midfield. must you always argue against logic?

Are you saying too, that Pogba did not play cup matches?

he was outstanding in all the games he played that season. excellent performance that is way above whatever rafael/park can produce in the central midfield.

Anyway, Pogba I saw was not ready and was below our make shift midfielders talking more of Gibson, Oshea, who had won top matches for us.

so the same pogba suddenly drank a magic mixture and became world class on the back of one season at juventus? juventus must be very special!

In 2011/12 we had Cleverley, Anderson, Carrick, Gibson, Oshea. Then Paul Scholes in the second period of the season. Paul Scholes and Carrick played the 2nd period. All the players were head and shoulder above Pogba.

none of them offered what pogba had in store apart from anderson & cleverley. pogba had penetration in his game - something carrick, gibson, scholes & o'shyte never had.

the issue here is SAF never even played pogba well enough to assess his strength. he just gave up on him or he was trying to prove a point that was needless. he forgot he was going to retire & leave our midfield in jeopardy.

SAF messed up big time - i know he would release another book before he dies documenting all his managerial mistakes of which letting pogba go would be one of them. we won't be flirting around vidal, herrera, etc if SAF had simply promoted morrison/pogba in 11/12.

nateevs: You keep missing the point. There is a point where it's clear to all and sundry that there's been an overpayment for goods or services. United have had a transfer spend of over £140m this summer alone. To put things in perspective, Chelsea haven't had that sort of spend since summer of 2004/05.

how's that an issue when united have equally lost rio, evra, vidic, giggs, etc. evra's supposed replacement(büttner) was also lost. let's do the equivalent at chelsea - let's imagine chelsea lost terry, cahill, ivanovic & azpi in the same transfer window, how much would you spend to fill the gaping hole?

Now when you consider that you actually haven't finished the spending; and then that even after the spending, you still are not within grasp of the league title, perhaps you begin to understand where I am coming from.

Did you ever criticise Chelsea's spendings in the past?

you are not saying much.....
united are in transition - the biggest transition they have yet to encounter in the last 20 years. from the manager to the back room staff to the old players. they must spend money to fix the departures.

i just can't stomach you rival clubs. damned when united spend, damned when they don't. when they didn't spend, all we heard was the glazers have sucked the club dry - hazard was being compared to bebe. now that united have spent, you guys are still moaning.

na wa!

elampiro: I can't remember. I knew I saw him in some matches (whether league or cups). I haven't the time to go check out how many matches he played.

you can't remember but you are making judgements on what you cannot remember?? stop pretending you have an answer to every united issue. zip it when you can't remember or you dunno what is being discussed

pogba had only 3 appearances totalling a mere 71 minutes in the entire season. united didn't concede a single goal in all the 3 league matches pogba appeared in. so how's he wack?

you mean pogba can be worse than starting js park & rafael as central midfielders? you really believe that? before the game against blackburn, had rafael ever played as a central midfielder? so what trust does SAF have for rafael for starting him in a league game over a specialist like pogba?

But all I knew was someone who had potentials in our midfield but the midfield was looking too big for him. He virtually forgot he needed to defend at all. At the end it was like a skeleton wearing agbada.

stop lying -
either you accept you never saw any of united's games that season or you watched the games from that famous calabash of yours that saw hargreaves clip messi's left foot.

PietroRico: I was just about to ask the same question.
A few cameo appearances is all elampiro is using to conclude.
Its laughable.

elampiro has a famous calabash where he sees the "director's cut" version of all matches. forget what you see live. elampiro's calabash saw messi vs hargreaves duel in camp nou. skysports, supersports, ITV, etcetera all missed this duel but elampawa saw it in his crystal clear water in the famous calabash.

elampiro: All these are propaganda and judgment from hindsight. I didn't see what he did in the world cup.

From what I saw, Pogba would have sank us below top four in 2011/12. He judgment was zero, he could only beat a man. Chikena.

Before Pogba, Carrick, Oshea, JS Park, Fabio, Gibson had been winning top matches from us in the midfield. Why did it make any sense for SAF to have to demote them suddenly for Pogba who had failed to impress at senior level?

Look at how good Januzaj is playing since last season, yet you feel is he not ready despite our wingers having a poor run. But you felt Pogba was ready ahead of senior players like Carrick, Oshea, JS Park and Gibson.

so tell us, how many league games did pogba start in 11/12 to even assess his strength? answer that question & see how weak your position is concerning this matter.

elampiro: I saw Pogba, he wasn't ready to fill the vacuum left in the midfield in 2011/12.

he was more than ready
stop juggling up the facts - what else was remaining. the duo had won the FA youth cup - the same trophy jack wilshere won at arsenal that made him famous.

morrison & pogba destroyed every youth team before them. we all thought they would be making automatic starts in 11/12 then SAF screwed it up with his sentiments for giggs/scholes.

as at 11/12, pogba & morrison were more than ready to start 38 league games for us. they would have put better performances than the idiotïc phil jones galloping like a camel in our midfield.

elampiro: Are you saying he was ready to fill our midfield in 2011/12 after Ando and Cleverley injured?

You must have forgotten 2011/12. After the injuries which happened after 5 or 6 matches, SAF tried everything, lot of players but nothing worked until Scholes was recalled. At a time I became scared we could find ourselves in 4th or 5th.

SAF was a dïckhead with pogba & morrison. he waited too long to promote them. in 11/12, those injuries were a perfect excuse to play those guys but SAF screwed up.

he had promised pogba plenty of starts & appearances but he used rafael & js park in the midfield while pogba was on the bench. that was the last straw for pogba & he asked to leave man utd.

united lost a gem in pogba - when we went back to enquire about him earlier this season, he was valued at £60m. we all saw him at the world cup, even if we agree for argument's sake that serie a is weak, and pogba didn't do badly at all.

juventus' gain was united's loss!

YoungDaNaval: Jesus! So How's It Gonna Reach Me Now?

the nearest cybercafe to him is about 26km away. the road isn't really motorable & only one lorry can get to that side of the town. the sad story is this lorry only makes the trip once a week every monday.

another alternative is if guykhena can swim a small lake that also leads to that side of town.

YoungDaNaval: Cool. Please Send To Guykhena so He Can Reach Me Via Fb. Noni!

boss, i have sent it to guykhena. reports coming from guykhena is that he lost his mobile this morning while getting on okada.

LooNat11kk: . STFU, i could name 5 random noobs on fb that'll take you out easily. Dont start Acting like shyt cos you won just two Battles. And Top Tier battle I've Won On NL? Didnt you witness Loonatikk Vs Thunder? Loonatikk Vs Deli Dimes? Ptff,

bring the random noobs.....
i need to speak to mikuz sef....i think it's high time the gladiators on NL clean out the wack-arsës on FB. i hear too much noise about FB spitters and when they come here, they rarely impress apart from few.

you made mouth about beating limerick on FB. we asked you to post the verses here so we can see but you have been quacking like an epileptic duck ever since. fück knows the kinda corruption ring you have got down there that is handing you Ws

i dunno deli-dimes & i swear on your last pint of blood that thunder isn't top-tier. have you battled any of ibime, mikuz, theprekky, siddoggg or DBR on NL? if you have - what was the outcome? if you haven't.....then you need to put some socks in that cesspit you call a mouth.

LooNat11kk: Dont Think Winning Siddog Has Made You Shyt. Back In Fb, I've won Niggas who have beaten Sidd to pulp. You are Yet To Prove To Me That You Are Top Tier. Only If DJ5naira Was around, he woulda exposed the bitten lines U brought against Sidd, Well He isnt, So Have Fun Cheers.

do your hands have leprosy? why don't you do the forensics yourself? you have to wait for dj5naira to expose the coog? it shall not be well with you.

shut up your dirty mouth with what you have done on FB. no one fücking cares - FB is wack. name one top tier battle you have respectfully won on NL. why should i even trade words with a lunatic? you are clinically insane & it's impossible for you to have a rational line of thought.

YoungDaNaval: Coogar!!!

boss, i have concluded my interview like you ordered.

MrTA: I just found this very interesting online.

This lineup beat Arsenal 8-2.

DDG
Smalling
jones
evans
Evra
Nani
Cleverly
Anderson
Young
Welbeck
Rooney

This lineup with these same players beat a top 4 team 8-2.

Obviuosly wont forget the important bit, manager SAF.

that same line up destroyed city at the community shield in the second half of the game. anderson & cleverley beasted most teams in that early part of the season.

cleverley got injured & he never returned back to his buzzing self again. he completely ate the entire arsenal midfield that day. young & nani were in a different sphere back then. this is why i think the criticism of our players is misplaced.

ThePrekky: Chukwu abiama! lmao! are you guys kidding me? one single battle nd yur already feeling this high?! who should be the one proving himself to the other? but wait, hahahaha.. are yu for real?? haha ok.
don't worry anymore. I just lost interest

one single battle?
hahahaha - theprekky, go & queue. you haven't been in a battle ring in about 9 months. battling has sailed far away from where you left it in 2013.

LooNat11kk: Lmao Na Siddog and Mikuz eff up, allowing this wack biter to gain props easily, smh.

this is the ranting of a menstruating woman. i have sonned textcees who are your superiors in a flawless performance. i have challenged you lunatics to produce one battle verse that can stand toe to toe with the scroll i dropped for siddoggg........you won't find any! from facebook to NL, the prince of persia rules!

dorosola: @ coogar
you are just talking now....u ain't in Nigeria (*eyebrows raised* we Don hear) So please let the Nigerian men come and defend themselves. it is even obvious that most male nairalanders are all guilty...... they no fit come save there head.

i don't live in nigeria doesn't mean i have never lived in nigeria or i don't visit. if i go to lagos tonight & i'm pressed, be assured i would be facing a gutter & doing my thing while whistling away to p-square's "busybody"

ThePrekky: @Coogar.. say. what if I decided to actually go on a thread with you like people want to see?

I think I have a little spare time on my hands

you need to battle 1 or 2 top tier netcees to get that shot. i ain't wasting any more potent bars here. 2 of my last battles have been flawless victories because i overestimated my opponents.

i need me a stiff competition not the one that all the voters would declare me the winner. it embarrasses me. go find one or two sparring partners and let me assess your level. you have not battled in 8 months - you would be too rusty to cope with the artillery in my arsenal.

Godmystrength: ^^^^but they bring them out on the street, road, on top of bridges, outdoor parties,busstoos etc. Whats my own. I just hate the smell of stale and dried urine......

they bring it out in places where you can still avoid looking at them. when women pop out their mammâry glands, it's usually in places where men can't look away. i am talking of banks, buses, churches, post offices, etc. i won't even mention those yeye women in church that must show dirty looking underwear when tying their wrapper that never seems to stay in one place.

dorosola: @ coogar
it is obvious you are guilty of it.

guilty of what? i live in a civilised society. there are public toilets in almost everywhere & even when there's none, most shops would allow me answer nature's call without hassles.

nigeria is way different, there are no public toilets & most shops don't even have a functional WC. if a man is pressed in nigeria, what do you want him to do? pee on himself?

to all you blaming me of looking, ahan, do you know that some don't even hide or face the gutter, they stand right there facing the road for people to look, and when you do, BEHOLD A HORRIBLE SIGHT. in as much as am concern about the environment am also concern about how healthy your kini is.

out of all the ills in the society, you are only concerned about the health of men's penišes. this your obsession is hilarious. you probably look at grapes and see testiclës, you probably fantasise about bananas & cucumbers having sex with you.

an apple tree can not produce a mango fruit. an unhealthy looking joystick can not produce anything healthy to the environment.

it's not too late......you can start an NGO in lagos - pênis MOT. you will test & check the healthiness of men's willys. i am sure WHO would be glad & willing to heavily fund such projects since your biggest dream in life is to examine & observe pënises.

ChristineC: That's a tortoise car, Chevrolet should provide a bigger car next time for A. Vidal. This is not Julius Berger FC

UK roads are tiny. tiny cars for tiny roads. besides, bigger cars get taxed the more.

juan mata is our best player at this moment in time. moyes was just a lunatic playing him wide last season.

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SAMBARRY: How can a disgusting sight make me self-service? It's not possible. I only look because he has decided to display it

disgusting sight? as if the ones you put in your mouth are any different?

SAMBARRY: End of discussion

that's a daft assertion......
men don't bring out their dïcks on the bus or in the church.

di maria @ carrington....

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it seems this place has turned into a whorêhouse. when we say netcees should include wordplay in their written, we mean pun not pörn!

SAMBARRY: why should she look away when a man is urinating in such a way that he is non verbally saying come and see how big and black my pheeneese is and for your information I also look too .If you know that you don't want me to look, lock your something inside your boxers till you get to a fast food restaurant where you can easily we we

thanks for your honesty!
it's just a shame that you are also as perverted as the OP. heaven knows the number of innocent pënises you have seen & registered in your memory to aid your mastubatòry habit.

abi if you see a woman who displayed all her bom bom in the name of urinating outside, irritation no go catch you.
in fact it is any man urinating in public places where eyes can easily see gis something that is a pevert

i don't look out for such so i don't see such. once i see a woman squatting, i simply look the other way. my eyes do not lead me to sin like yours. if you are so obsessed with pënises, why not get a box of dïldos and display them in your room?

Guykhena: @ Coogar pls reply my pm request,in order for me to pass you the questions

done!

edwife:
Coogar,i saw you somewhere .....

i saw you first - you were winding your waist at nottinghill carnival dancing azonto.

edwife: you dey look for coogar's trouble this night abi?
He is too big and posh for that,trust me.

sambarry is high on willy-milk.

SAMBARRY: why are you denying yourself and quoting another person. Remember the bible says that the wages of sin is death . confess and be saved so that you can have true healing

you think everyone leads a dirty life like you do infecting all & sundry with STIs? smart men don't contract herpes

MRbrownJAY: story sounds so fake!!!!

@OP
if your story is remotely true then all this your write up is a pile of dung until you:
A) tell your wife about your infidelities with the said closed friend
B) confess to both about your disease carrying self.
C) see what you did as wrong instead of some Nolly superstory where you are the star....... you talk a lot but no where did you say you want to stop acting a fool (or are sorry for your actions)

the fakest story ever.....
i won't be surprised it's one of those attention seekers bereft of meaningful activities in their lives fabricating tales by moonlight from the rectüm of a baboon!

raumdeuter: You lost RIo, Vidic and Evra, Didnt you buy Rojo Herrera, Didnt you buy Fellaini, Kagawa, Mata

stop arguing like a retärd!
so did rojo, herrera & fellaini play against sunderland? or fellaini, mata & kagawa are the replacements for rio, evra & vidic?

This mumu even talks of Hargreaves that last completed 90mins for Man Urd over 7yrs ago, WHy you no mention Beckham Gary Pallister and Cantona too

shut up your mouth & stop arguing like a giraffe. if the players that have left haven't been replaced, why does it surprise you that united need 3 players in their defence?

only a goat like dayokanu thinks mata & herrera are the replacements for vidic, evra and rio.

raumdeuter: Core players injured? Lol
Shaw is now a core player, even FAT anderson
The players below started vs Sunderland

01 de Gea
25 A Valencia
18 Young
42 Blackett
12 Smalling
04 Jones
24 Fletcher
23 Cleverley
08 Mata
20 van Persie
10 Rooney

Yet couldnt win the game. Who would those players you claim were missing bench in the Sunderland game lineup

now it's obvious you have sold your common sense for a plate of porridge.

the following players started against portsmouth in 2008 & lost at old trafford.

1)Van der Sar
2)Brown,
3)Ferdinand,
4)Vidic
5)Evra,
6)Ronaldo
7)Scholes
Hargreaves
9)Nani,
10)Rooney,
11)Tevez

2 months later, all these players took part in moscow & won the champions league.