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JayKayMaybachz: Coogar i take god name beg u free rooney...he is not our problem rather mumu moyes.....i get ur point buh nonetheless he is not our only player here

think about it - £1m a month since 2010. that's £36m so far that rooney has stolen from the club's coffers.

that dosh could have gotten another hernandez, a new tiote, a non-dreadlocked alex song plus a cissokho to relieve evra a bit.


[quote author=kay_pumpin]This forum is the only Manchester United's fandom where Rooney is castigated.Talk about untainted vindictiveness.

Truth is,the whole team is pants now and Rooney's so called gragra is the only bright spot for now.[/quote]to the nakëd eye, this is very correct.......but there's a logical argument that actually proves rooney himself is the reason we are not ticking. couldn't this just be the ruud syndrome?

many thought united were crazy to let van nistelrooy go. ruud scored about 25 goals per season(easily our best player) but the football quality itself was dire. he left & united started beating teams up & down....

the outcome? 3 back to back PL titles plus a CL title to boot!!!

afrodoc: Is Rooney the only person getting paid? Why are you fixated on his 250k? Maybe you should cast your salary screening net a bit wider.

because his salary is dredging up our resources & he cannot lead the team to glory like his peers in the same wage bracket. messi/ronaldo score more than 60-70% of their team's total goals - how is rooney faring in comparison?

Have you compared how much Ashley Young and Nani get compared to Adam Llallana? Or how much Cleverley and Anderson get paid compared to Ross Barkley? Have you compared what Moyes is getting paid compared to Pochettino or Martinez?

nani/young? players who have been top assist makers in this league for several seasons. they were both injured last season so we didn't get to see the best of them. this season, they are playing under the most visionless, most disillusioned & the most brainless manager planet earth has produced.

Rooney leads the team in most of the attacking stats that really matter and in overall player rating.

you still don't get the point or you are doing your best to run away from the facts. rooney by default is the 2nd best player in the squad. in the absence of RVP, he becomes the best player by default but that is not the crucial issue - the issue is should suarez/aguero/ramsey be outperforming a fit rooney in the league?

when RVP was fit, he had every defender in this country in his back pocket - 2 back to back golden boots is the testimony to robin's mercurial ability. in the absence of rooney, RVP smashed teams to atoms & for a second, i forgot rooney was even a united player.

has rooney done the same? no!!!

He is 4th in the EPL in goals scored, 3rd in assists and 7th in overall player rating ( the only Man Utd player in the top 20) meaning only 6 players in the whole league have had better seasons so far.

only 6 players? are these players earning more than rooney or less? shouldn't that be a disgrace to rooney? shouldn't rooney ask for a pay-cut till he can perform to RVP's level last season?

So how can it be that of all the players in the team it is the only player that is at the top of most of the performance indices that you blame?

because in the absence of his general, rooney has failed to take games by the scruff of the neck. go back to last season when rooney was unfit & missed games, RVP stood tall - he took out everything standing in his way & we won the league by 11 points with the same midfield you are condemning here.

did RVP win the golden boot with a midfield of llana, ross barkley & yaya toure? no!!! he won it with the midfield of the anderson/cleverley, wingers like nani/young/welbeck. so unless you are telling me 6 players became shyte at the same time, you are not advancing any point one jot!!!

What about the other millionaires collecting 70k,80k per week and stinking up the place like skunks?

their level is the same as last season's & it's rooney's inefficiency upfront that is making those midfielders look bad. because the media dare not blame rooney else he plants a bomb @ the emirates, lesser mortals like anderson, cleverley, kagawa, young & nani automatically become the scapegoats!!!

Donxavier:
But seriously we need guys with the tenacity of Coogar . One would just go crazy with some of the stuffs you hear from these e-witches

don't mind them - they underscore my input on NL but use the advice off-NL. the truth is always bitter.

bukatyne: Don't bother yourself,

I am not interested in a debate on what is glaring

if you cannot defend what you write in passing then why write at all?

bukatyne: According to Coogar,

If a woman is not 'submissive', she will be breaking all the stuffs in the house

What is even the definition of submissive sef?

and how did you reach this conclusion?

DutchesSsS: What will you advice a growing girl that decided to quit pre-marital sex but has this extreme sexual urge to do?

She complained of thinking about sex and always in the mood recently, she needs help?

get her the biggest dildö in the mall. call madam CC for the details. she stocks various sizes in her supermarket.

purplekayc: I would compare wats happenin directly with Liverpool in 1990. In December 1990, with all the success they had had in the previous 30 years no one would have dared believe that it would be 23 years later and they haven't got a title. This might be the end, it might not be, but no club has a right to win things, and Man U are no different.

winning is our birthright, bro!
firstly, liverpool weren't as big as we are now in the late 80s. united's value is in the billions - 700 million fans worldwide, etc. why would they allow a brainless manager to cripple the club because of scottish solidarity?

deols: I was not talking of the average then. We are not all like that. Stop the generalisation.

of course there's always an exception to the rule. i am just telling you what one should expect in majority of the cases.

Stop generalising. Some of us are mentally strong.

oh please.....

I dont take things from men. I never had to. So, stop generalising and maybe, stop moving with the wrong girls

so because you don't do it means other people don't? i reiterate, i am only making you aware of what is out there.

Stop doing that. Some of us don't play games. We are too serious for that. If anyone puts their hand in my mouth, I'd bite.

that's exactly the point.
i want to see if she will bite if i put my hand in her mouth. if she overbites, i quickly weed her off. the point is to gauge her reaction when she's angry. is her anger proportionate to the wrong against her?

Not everyone talks while angry. I don't cos my voice shakes and it is embarrassing. The other embarrassing thing is that I cry sometimes as I try to express it. So, most of the time, all I do is use body language. I just have to show my displeasure in a way by frowning or usingy eyes. Talking can happen later when those bad words may not be said.

very simple....
i keep trying till she bursts out. i just have to know the boundary - the elastic limit.

We all overlook minor flaws. What you presented is the one who does not see the flaws and would hear and obey all the time.

nah - i don't want a mumu partner. i want an intelligent partner whose reaction when angry is proportionate to the wrongs done against her. she should not underreact or overreact!!!

And I was not talking of those who nag 24/7either. I mean people who at least make it known when they disagree with you and get angry when neceasary.Rather than keeping it in mind until they explode catastrophically.

well, a couple can disagree everyday & i am fine by that. it's the way she expresses herself when disagreeing that matters. some women can't get their points across without yelling or screaming - that's a huge turn off for me. i expect a woman to keep it together even when angry. she should get her points across while her voice is as low like she's having a normal conversation.

This was not about the nagging woman, you know. You can express yourself without being a nag and the snake has venom. Very poisonous, deadly venom.

venom is good.
i prefer passive aggressive behaviour than breaking dishes or smashing the LCD screen. if she's angry, let her put too much salt in my food as long as she takes it in good faith when i retaliate by doing the same. it spices up the relationship.

deols: Here is an example for coogar

See? Even this can be too much to handle

well - too much of everything is bad. he said she's over-submissive. being submissive is different from being over-submissive.

n0m0705: Where else do you want him to get the assists? He can only play what is in front of him, besides he didn't play against sharktar and when you look at it technically he got the assist for that own goal against R soceidad ( not sure though ).

rooney is a flat track bully.....when berbatov was piling it up against hapless teams, he was branded a bully. a player who would score 5 against wacky teams & go missing when he's needed the most.

Ronaldo, ibrahimovic, and messi are also in the CL and he is presently ahead of them in assists

ronaldo's the highest goal scorer in the CL...messi/ibra are not far behind. if they get to play leverkusen over 2 legs they would probably score a dozen goals each.

@ coogar, repent now before it is too late, for too much hatred is not good for your health

there's nothing to repent about - i refuse to settle for mediocrity.

dademola: well, he's currently our best player!

in the absence of the tom-cat, the rat rears it's head. van persie is on his way to full recovery, we shall see who our best player is when he gets back to 100%. i know moyes is behind this conspiracy to get van persie to be anonymous with hectic military training regime.

alutacontinua: U're e-crazy
Besides, did you see Cyrus last thursday? I laff sotey I almost cried @ his face that day

i felt sorry for cyrus.....

Katsumoto: I am not buying these excuses. Mourinho has a team most managers would kill for. If Mourinho can't manage that squad, then Everton would be in the relegation zone if he was managing them. Essien is no longer a starter and Cech is still one of the best keepers in the world. The defense is slightly worse than what he had in his previous era but which team has a better defense (in terms of ability) than Chelsea?

excuses? you want to compare today's disillusioned petr cech to the beast chelsea had between 04 & 07? terry/carvalho axis were the best in the world, never mind europe & they were just difficult to beat. once mourinho's team scored there's no comeback for their opponents - they were that good & mourinho was given the funds to build a monster team.

The Everton isn't Martinez's team but he has them playing for him. The Bayern team isn't Guardiola's but they are playing well. What of Martino ar Barca?

where are everton on the table in comparison to chelsea? abeg - forget what guardiola is doing in the bundesliga. it's a shyte league. moyes' team put 9 goals past the 2nd best team in germany over 2 legs. spanish league is also the same. the only real threat barca have is madrid & perhaps athletico to a degree. all the other teams are pants.

the premier league is different - we have seen over the years how world class managers have been disgraced out of this league. scolari & ancelotti(world class managers) ran for their dear lives. sven eriksson didn't know what hit him. benitez was nearly stabbed at the bridge.

at any given point in time, there are 6 teams capable of winning the league unlike bundesliga & la liga so stop comparing guardiola's bundesliga to mourinho's premier league. they face different hostilities. can you beat your chest if guardiola is handling the same chelsea side, they would win the league?

It appears that your point is that Mourinho can only win if he is managing a team of the best 22 players in the world.

that's not the point.
the point is - it's too early to judge him. the league is now different. more teams have strengthened & they have closed the gap between them & the top sides. any big team can get clapped by mid-table team. jose is still in 4 competitions & 3rd on the table. he's where he should be as far as chelsea's squad quality is concerned.

n0m0705: "@ChampionsLeague: FACT: @WayneRooney has been credited with six assists this term, more than any other player in the #UCL - http:///bmivHZxaAu"

i can bet all of them came against leverkusen.

debosky: ^^ Coogar will tell you it doesn't matter.

it doesn't matter one jot.....he's a flat track bully. packing 5 assists out of 6 against one hapless team in germany & anonymous against a determined everton side.

afrodoc: Wayne Rooney is being paid 250k per week, thats true but are the other guys in the team working for free? They should chip in!

Rooney in the EPL leads the team in the following

1) Goals..............8

2) Assists............5

3) Key Passes....2.2 per game

4) Player Rating...7.62

And he is near the top in the whole league for these stats.

If one is to criticize any player at United for not performing or if we are looking for one player to blame i don't think it should be Rooney

compare rooney's performance to the other forwards drawing £250k per week from their club's coffers - ronaldo, messi, ibrahimovic then we can have a debate.

if you don't realise rooney's performance is disproportionate to his wages at this stage then there's no point debating even further.

the only question you should ask yourself - is rooney doing enough for the amount of money he gets?

debosky: ^^ Rooney is scoring - he is the highest goal scorer and no midfielder is outscoring him at United.

he's played the most minutes in the attack, he's the chief setpiece taker. how won't he be the highest scorer in the team. argue logically now?

By the above, your point is rendered invalid. Stop feeding us ancient history about RVP scoring last season - Rooney has also had high scoring seasons in the past. Leave history and look at the present reality.

RVP - 7 goals in 910 league minutes
rooney - 8 goals in 1105 league minutes.

a single goal is what rooney has to show for 200 mins extra league minutes that he's gotten more than van persie this season. robin is more effective. i can't wait to have him firing again - he's our only hope!

Remove Rooney and United deliver a toothless performance like we saw on Saturday.

remove van persie & united lost to man city, everton. the biggest loss this season was without RVP, what did rooney do to salvage the situation? nothing. he only stood by & watched aguero(who's less paid than rooney) took the piss on united.

GustavoFring: I would have agreed with all of this if he did not send Lukaku away and sign Eto'o
Lukaku is the very embodiment of what Jose's teams are supposed to be. Relentless and unapologetic physicality.

what's to say lukaku would even fit? we all saw ba firing for newcastle. the moment he joined chelsea, he lost his bearing. the truth is, chelsea have too many goalscoring midfielders who would shoot on target when they get near the opponent's goal - lukaku's team mates at everton would look for lukaku in such situations.

Yet under our watch, he signed Willian and Eto'o. Players we didnt need. He also signed Essien - Who has looked so far out out of his depth when he has played, it has been shocking.

essien never left. he was on loan. the loan deal expired & essien had to come back to his parent club.

If he had not made such monumental errors in his transfer policy, I would have been content to write off our current dismal performances as part of the bedding in process.

you are 3rd on the table & you are complaining. what should the defending champions rooted in the 9th place do?

I think something happened to JM in Spain. I think his failure to break Barca's hegemony in Spain couple with Pep's constant mindfucking has affected Jose and snatched his spark from him.

jose is still jose. wait, let him get the balance right by next season & you will see the difference. lukaku would be back then with more experience, stronger, fitter & more effective. letting lukaku go on loan might be a daft idea now but chelsea would benefit in the end.

He has already admitted to making "11 mistakes" this term. He has admitted to being unable to improve his Strikers.

a tacit message to the owner to release the funds for a world class striker.

I think we are facing a 2-fold problem at SW6. The manager needs to gas up his players. But who will gas up Mourinho?

mourinho is gassed already - he lost at stoke so what? how many top teams have picked maximum points at stoke in recent times? this is the same mourinho that eliminated the league leaders in the capital one cup away fro home, he's qualified his team for the knock out stage of UCL......he's few points away from the league leaders.

what's the problem?

debosky: One-off event you say? Was Oviedo a main striker as well?

Wait - was Stephen Ireland a main striker scoring twice against Chelski?

Was Ozil the main striker when he scored against Everton?

It seems one-off events are happening everywhere.

yes it is.....
at the end of the season, strikers will score more than midfielders & defenders. it's somehow daft to pick one-off events & use it as the norm that midfielders must score. can you tell me why we are paying rooney £250k per week if he cannot outscore ramsey, aguero, suarez??

when RVP was left alone to do it all by himself last season, were we expecting someone else in the midfield to deliver the goods? no. £24m striker rolled up his sleeves & kept scoring - scored in all the tough grounds while rooney is just farting around looking for cheap excuses yeye fans like yourself are willing to buy.

dayokanu: I might agree based on his record, incompetence might be strong but which words would describe whats going on with the situation right now considering the wealth of talents

mourinho is not incompetent - this is not his team. at least give him time to tweak here & there before you start blaming him. look at the defensive side of chelsea(mourinho's strongest emphasis) - what you have now is a parody to the chelsea team of 04/05.


terry has aged, cahill & luiz wouldn't make chelsea's team of that era. essien has gotten older, cech hasn't been the same since his head injury. mourinho's team has always been built with a very strong defence & the current chelsea side isn't even 10% of what the 04/05 defensively. these ones are babies.

debosky: Did Cabaye play as the main striker that he managed to score? Pathetic excuses.

that's a one-off event, under normal circumstances, a striker should be naturally expected to get the goals. rooney played against everton, did he score? yet, RVP is unfit and shouldn't have started if the unruly fat scouser hadn't gotten himself suspended.

odutope: this same rooney has been directly involved in most of united's goals this season...You are really biased in your arguments

that he's been directly involved in most of united's goals masks his deficiencies. you hire a player to get plenty of goals for you - he falls short of the required number & you are saying he's been involved in most of united's goals. who else should be involved if not rooney? suarez abi na falcao would be involved in getting us goals?

i don't know why many of united fans are comfortable with mediocrity. rooney had about 5-match head start & suarez has scored more. that's the level rooney should be. look at aguero, giroud, negredo, etc. they are pulling their weights but we should be satisfied with rooney's little contribution?

[quote author=e-estate]This is a live story, your advice and suggestion is seriously needed to give counsel to my friend. My mother in law called me on early Sunday morning and told me to see her after church in her home somewhere in suburb of Lagos. I obliged to see her in the evening. Have been trying to prevent this visitation for many times especially during the week when I'm sure no one will be in the house expect her. However on Sunday at least three people will be in the house, her youngest daughter, her grand son and Tawa the house help.

I got to her, on Sunday the road was free, I had a smooth ride how I wish Lagos road is always free like this, through out my ride various thoughts filled my heart and many plans accomplishes them, even I made lots of rehearse of words to use to fight the battle I'm going for.
At the gate I carefully pressed the car horn expecting Tawa to open the gate, as the gate swing wide opened, I saw her in her best transparent Night gown smiled at me and ushered me in into the quite compound no doubt, their is no body in the whole house. To cut the words short, She narrated to me that, herself, my wife and her youngest daughter 13yrs the last child have agreed that instead of her to marry another man, for the fact that she lost her husband some years ago, that I will be assisting them in quote to satisfy her sexual emotions. I was dumb, my whole system shut down! I ran out and found my way home, I asked my wife to my surprised she beg me that they preferred that to loosing her to another man!

She is in her early 50, pretty woman, for her to remarry won't be a problem I wonder why they all conspired to this sinful, shameless and abomination act. Nairalander please what should I do, She is calling, my wife and her sister is begging me to help, they called it help.[/quote]what are you waiting for? take the opportunity. it will only take you few moments & before you count backwards from 100 to 15, the deed is over.

adaobi123: 2NaCl + H2SO4 ----> 2HCl + Na2SO4

very funny......

dayokanu: Some of us already told anyone who cared to listen that Torres form follows a dead clock or better still follows the eclipse of the moon.

If you are going to bank on a striker who scores 2 league goals in a calendar year then you are on a long thing. One of the goals was a gift from Joe Hart sef

torres is the best striker at chelsea. i can't wait for lukaku to return. you would see his general output would reduce again like most strikers have struggled at the bridge. every chelsea midfielder is a goalscorer so the goals get shared like groundnuts.

adaobi123: Luckily the questions are based around the roles of a pharmacist and chemistry questions. I could do chemistry all day.

are you sure?
balance this equation for me....

NaCl + H2SO4 ---->

n0m0705: RVP had zero shot on target. RVP zero shot off target. Chicharito managed only 11 touches in the first half.
Manchester United were the only Premier League side to make fewer than 100 passes in the attacking third this weekend.

RVP played in the hole - why should he have shots on target? if he had whacked a horrible freekick over the bar like rooney does in most games, would that have counted that he's busy throughout the game. 3 key-passes while playing in the hole suggests he played well. his objective on saturday was to create chances.

All these horrible stats in just one match? Don't you think that is an indictment on the suppossed playmaker? I am not taking anything away from rvp, I am just trying to point out your bias criticism of Rooney.
Besides I'll like you to name 3 matches in which rooney had 63% pass completion.

how's it an indictment?
was RVP even fit? at least in all the games rooney stank up the whole joint, he was prim & proper and he still produced next to shyte in those games. you want to compare RVP's performance in a game that was unfit to rooney's performance when he's fit & you are pointing out my bias?

look in the mirror, mate.

adaobi123: After Christmas

no christmas chicken for you then.....stay in the lab all day studying the human anatomy. how many bones & how many pints of blood pumped by the heart.

deols: secondary school? I just gave you real life examples of people I know and am close to. Maybe you need to broaden your horizon

hahaha....
the average nigerian woman has about 10 boyfriends in her lifetime before marriage. these days, some have 3-5 at the same time. she uses them for different purposes.

Material stuff? any girl who accepts material stuff is probably ready to submit. Some people don't accept gift from strangers. That is why we have fathers. For the emotional aspect, well, there is nothing to do about it. He'll learn to get over it. Quality time goes both ways. But she would not have spent time if she wasnt considering him.

he will learn to get over the heartache, right? i wish women will also learn to get over the heartbreaks instead of becoming a nervous wreck & lumping their problems on everyone else.

a girl will still take material stuff from an admirer even when she has nothing to offer him. he's a mumu as far as she's concerned & she will take full advantage of the likeness of the dude has for her.

Suss out. Do you mean frustrate her to see how unyielding she can be? You dont like her enough then and should not have her in the first place.

sussing her out is just a test.....a litmus test to ascertain if she's acidic or basic.

So what does how long say about her?

that answer is classified. trade secrets my friend.

You are going extreme about your idea of expressive people. I am not destructive sha. Many of us actually make mental calculations before the pop. We say it because we want to say it. It is most of the time rational.

anger & rationality hardly go together. when a woman is very angry - it takes a lot of grace for her not to say the things she might regret later. all these things i pay close attention to - most of the time i deliberately create chaos just to goad her & see how caustic her tongue would wag.

Damages are not always done. We teach people how to treat us. When you learn early enough, you can be rest assured of the bliss to follow

damages are likelier to be done.
i don't mean physical damage, i am talking of the verbal damage. i am fully aware there will always be little friction here & there but i expect a high level of self control when she's expressing herself.

You are presenting a dummy and not an average human being. A decade?? How would you feel sef living with someone who keeps on saying yes sir like a robot without ever saying why?

i am not talking of a robot here but a woman who's prepared to overlook minor flaws here & there and just get on with it. if my mistake is critical, then i expect her to go full-throttle with me. however, there are some women who moan about every minor thing - the types that nag & neg - even the bible says a man should flee from such women.

The ones I know are more destructive than expressive people. Especially because you dont know what they are thinking, you'd have to fear for your life. They are like green snakes under green grasses or say, slow poison.

i am a very good snake handler. snakes are usually calm if you don't spike them & not every snake is venomous. quiet ladies are the best - they pick their moments to get angry & that only happens once in a blue moon. i prefer that to the daily moaning of a nagging woman.

adaobi123: No pressure....

when is the interview?

dayokanu: But you were the one who told us a coach who knows what he is doing like Mourinho would help Torres become the best striker in the league

Now how many coach have failed with Torres now? Ancelloti, AVB, RdM, Scolari and now Mourinho

when torres found form, he got injured again & that will only affect his form. even ibime was sucking torres' balls some few weeks ago.

torres has the anderson syndrome. it takes a while for him to get going but the moment he hits top form, the injury comes calling & plunges him back to the pits.

Guitarlife: Seems Africa is mostly filled with bitter people. Why can't we just make life easy for ourselves ? The mind boggles O my brother.

africa is naturally bitter.
think of the savagery that goes on from place to place in that continent, the ritualism & the blood spillage from the dark ages till now....i mean, what do you expect?

there's no way anyone can convince me hell can be worse than what people go through in africa. the continent needs a special spiritual deliverance.

deols: Do you think that was easy for me??

I have about four browsers. The one I used yesterday won't quote.

This one will double quote if I try to use it and I am on mobile.

The other requires a pretty fast service and my service here is bad..

abi u are using style to buy time for your response??

how will it double quote? just make sure you edit properly before pushing the send button......your reply is ready, it takes me less than 2 mins to compose any rebuttal. fix your browser.

Guitarlife: I asked this question in the religion section but didnt get enough response.

I graduated with a 2:1 in electrical engineering since 2009. I
couldnt get a decent job uptill a couple of months ago. I had to
run my M.ENG programme to save face.

I was very depressed through all those period believe me it was
not funny. However , almost everybody that I have told about the
new job seem very sad and bitter save for two people who used
to help me with cash during my M.ENG.

I am surprised that people who i thought were friends appear
very unhappy once they hear I have gotten a job.

These guys are mostly church members who pretended to be so concerned when I was jobless o.
These people too are doing pretty well for themselves o.

My question is, is it our nature as humans or as blacks.
some people have even complained that there parents are
against there progress.

Why do people find it difficult to be happy with you when you make progress ??


Front Page abeg!!!!!!!!

i would be jealous of you too. only you - MEng? that wasn't in the script. we were supposed to stop at JSS certificate, you then went behind them to cop more degrees. in ancient greece, you could be put to death for such treachery.

i will not reply deols until she fixes her quote button.

PhysicsQED: Well, we might have different understandings of what "flow" really is, so that might be part of why we couldn't see eye to eye on this stuff. Not only do I not think it's his best flow ever on a song, I don't think his flow on that song is even good.

I respect your opinion on the song, but I don't agree with it - we're clearly just listening to the music differently.

we can always agree to disagree - i am fine with that. you are a good sport.

nateevs: I don't understand. He cannot improve Eto'o but bought him regardless. He can improve Lukaku but let him go.

no striker can thrive at chelsea like their peers in the other clubs. buy falcao or suarez & the outcome would be the same. this is why there should be a drogba statue @ king's road.