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Ibime: Am sure you missed this:

this does not in anyway tell us that emenalo pulls the string at chelsea. emenalo was there when chelsea won the double in 2010, he was there when chelsea won in elite europe in 2012 & when they won europa last season.....

all of a sudden, emenalo is not good enough?

dayokanu: On the home page I same this thread about Ronaldo being a complete player
https://www.nairaland.com/1447120/cristiano-ronaldo-most-complete-player

Its similar to this
Ronaldo is balanced, Potent in also all aspect which is aerial, Right foot, left foot dribbles and shooting

Messi isnt a balanced footballer because he lacks in some aspect yet he is the best footballer of his generation

ronaldo & messi both have strengths & weaknesses. messi's lower centre of gravity makes him a better dribbler with a far better close control than ronaldo. ronaldo is weaker at dribbling & close control. however, what ronaldo lacks in balance, he makes up for it in aerial duels....

none of them is close to 100% perfection. a perfect footballer would be a robot who would never have a shot off target. that's what you can call perfection. ronaldo is not 100% balanced but you could argue he's the best of the lot in terms of his body symmetry!

nateevs: Like clock work.

ibime is a toad....
to even suggest emenalo wields more power than mourinho is idiotic. i'm sure he thinks emenalo chooses the team too and maps out the tactics.

dayokanu: Being balanced and being perfect are two different concepts

they are the same thing - balance is perfection. if you are not perfect, you are not balanced. ask any philosophy professor, he would lecture you.

A team is balanced simple. Nothing more than that. Barcelona is the best team around and they are not balanced.

if they are not balanced, they are not perfect. you are now making my point....

So if Barcelona, Brazil 1970, Madrid Galacticos won because all their opponents were mediocre?

anyone reading this meaningless gibberish can already tell you are not mentally-balanced. what's the word if doing in that sentence?

Thats some stupidd isssh and I dont glorify stupidity with a response. If you dont get it then leave it

you are a troglodyte.....
the best team in any competition does not suggest the team are 100% balanced. spain lost 0-1 to switzerland & still won the world cup. they weren't balanced & they weren't perfect but they were the best in that particular tournament.

[quote author=baby_123]And why should the child be trusted with you? Why cant the father spend alone time with the child? Why should someone escort the father when spending time with the child. It is not only men that are abusive. If a woman has a child with a child molester or someone she cannot trust around kids. Then she has to prove the fact. Too bad. It tells a lot about her. The father has as much right to a child as the mother. [/quote]the statistics actually said mothers abuse children more than men and the difference is a wide margin.

9jamum: A single naija father, or any dad at that can develop a good father – daughter relationship. The bond between a father and a daughter can not be over emphasized thus a few tips to help ensure that the bond not only exist but remains strong for life.

few tips? how can they work when the estranged mother is busy poisoning the mind of the daughter that her father is very evil.

dayokanu: Its the weak league that makes the Italian Champion Juve, Spanish Champions Barca unable to get any goal and few shots on taget in 360minutes of football.

of course, your league is weak. if juve & barca were in bundesliga, they would also win your league conceding less goals.

Bayern defence played Juve, Barca and Dortmund yet only conceded a lone goal to a penalty. Does defence get any better?

except that they conceded 3 goals to arsenal(a lower tier team to barcelona) - you conceded 2 of those goals on home soil as well so how does that prove invincibility in your defence?

Mention someone on this thread who has said Bayern was perfect. Bayern was a balanced team Goalie, defence, midfield and attack

if bayern are not perfect then they are not balanced. balance & imperfection cannot coexist.

Do you even know what the discussion is about? Who said Defence isnt part of football? We are talking about sides who attack and defend well

shut up & stop flipflopping....
are you a goat? you denigrated the football inter served under mourinho & i am saying their brand of football is perfectly legal & they beat bayern 2-0. a team that defends for 85 mins out of 90(according to you) shouldn't have beaten you in a final with 2 goals scored in either half.

What has that got to do with the discussion. Who told you that tripe. If Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane are heart broken and bereaved they would still beat a team of Ibime, Nateevs and coogar.

idïota!
so if messi & zidane cop red cards out of their indiscipline, they would still win against my team?

They were the best team of their generation and were very unbalanced. Whats modern football? By 2050 maybe they would watch Messi and co and say they were playing archaic football

in 1970, the traditional formation was 2-3-5! there were no substitutions & there was no offside rule then was different plus there was no back-pass rule.

Tyson wasnt balanced yet he was the best of his era, Barca isnt balanced yet they are the best of their era, same with Brazil 1970, Galactico Madrid etc

the best of their era does not mean 100% perfection. it simply means they were the best of a mediocre bunch. you can score 50% in an exam & still come first. this is common sense.....

How does Balance and perfect even mean the same thing to you? Has anyone argued that any team is perfect here? The topic is Balance not Perfect.

how can you be balanced & yet imperfect? did you go to school at all?

Perfection is in the eyes of the beholder.

Tiki-Taka, total fotball Barcelona football is perfect to Cryuff and Pep, Defensive/Cattenaccio Italian football is perfect to Lippi and Benitez, Counter-attacking football is perfect to Klopp and Hector Cuper.

now the folly has finally bought some common sense. this is the opposite of what you said about jose's inter of 2010. the way you jump from one side of the argument to the other tells me you could be bi-polar.

Just like Beyonce is perfect for A-40, Eniola Badmus is perfect for Coogar and Afrocandy is perfect to Nateevs and Patience Jonathan is perfect for Ibime

you are incredibly foolish.....
we are talking about football teams that were universally accepted as brilliant teams and you are reducing it to afrocandy & beyonce....

[quote author=Richy.]These girls are the type that need special slap from pastors. not any how pastors. i mean those ones that goes to gym. how could they....... [/quote]evil females everywhere - one cannot be too careful as a man these days cos even daughters are capable of lying against their fathers if he irks them....

this happened last year....

A 23-year-old woman has told police she lied about her father räping her when she was 11 - accusations that put him behind bars for nine years.

But Cassandra Kennedy, from Longview, Washington, will not be charged as prosecutors fear it could stop others from reporting sëxual assaults. Kennedy said guilt forced her to tell police she had lied about Thomas Edward Kennedy räping her at least three times in 2001.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/02/article-2124170-1260FD4B000005DC-269_468x403.jpg

'I did a horrible thing,' Kennedy told detectives in January, according to a police report reported in The Daily News. 'It's not OK.'

She added that she was bitter following her parents' divorce in 1991, and that she made up the räpe story as her father had disappointing her.

After the divorce, Kennedy and her sister spent one weekend a month at their father's home, where they slept on foam mattresses in his living room.

'I wanted him to love me, and I didn't think he did at that time,' she told the detectives. 'I took my own vengeance,' she added.

Kennedy told police she got the idea of setting up her father from a friend whose stepfather had been sent to prison for a child sex crime.

'I thought that is what I would do to make my dad go away,' she said she feared charging Cassandra might discourage other girls from reporting sëxual assaults

She told a teacher about the abuse, using the codeword 'peace' to indicate when it had supposedly happened again. Police said she repeated the stories with consistency and their details seemed beyond the sëxual knowledge of an 11-year-old.

'I wanted my father to love me, and I didn't think he did at that time. I took my own vengeance'

Kennedy later told police she became sëxually active in second grade and may have used what she had learned in films when talking to officers.

She also had trauma to her body consistent with a räpe - but now police believe this could have been from sëxual contact before her accusations.

Her father denied the allegation but a jury convicted him of three counts of rapë of a child and he was sentenced to more than 15 years in jail.

'I just want him to be out and freed,' his daughter told police earlier this year. Then, 'I will be free on the inside'.

Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124170/Cassandra-Kennedy-Father-freed-decade-jail-daughter-admits-lied-raping-11.html

dayokanu: Bayern defence of last season conceeded the least number of goals in Bundesliga history

your league is weak - you conceded 3 goals to a 4th ranked arsenal with your full squad. what's so excellent about your defence? a good defence should have won the competition unbeaten.

Bayern defence played Juve, Barca and Dortmund yet only conceded a lone goal to a penalty. Does defence get any better?
Mandzukic is one part of the 4 bayern attackers. The question is "Is Bayern attack sharp" Yes. Is Barca Attack sharp yes. This has nothing to do with Sanchez or Pedro being second rate and not matching Messi Xavi and Iniesta creativity.

bayern's attack is not sharper than chelsea or even man utd. there are various levels of sharpness. your team is not perfect - there's no perfect team as there's always something to improve in the team.

Inter of 2010 was more comfortable defending than attacking as with most Mourinho sides. Within the first 5 mins they would already cede possesion and waiting to counter. Barca has never been a balanced side, they are always more comfortable attacking and any foray into their half mostly causes commotion.

and defence isn't part of football? as long as you win games, either defence or attacking football is not illegal. the most important thing is not conceding stüpid goals.

Nigeria of 1994 is a balanced side. Our attack defence, midfield are almost equal in strenght, even though Italys defence was better than ours or Brazils attack was better than ours. Its that Within our team, We are balanced

what about intangibles like discipline & mental strength? football is 70% mental, 30% skill.

Brazil of 1970, Current Barcelona, Galactico Madrid were examples of very successful sides perfect exciting football but not balanced in attack and defence.

brazil of 1970? when managers play 2-3-5 formation? how can you even compare then & modern football?

Even in boxing some fighters are aggresive e.g Tyson who can punch but cant take (Attack outweighs defence) and some are defensive who always first look to soak in the opponent before he would punch

the balanced boxer would then be the one that can cop the best of both worlds - the one that can attack very well & defend very well.

Balance is not comparing 2 teams Its comparing departments within the same team. Barca attack seriously outweighs Barcas defence, while Portos attack and defence are almost equal. (Porto is just an example). There are several sides who are balanced but not world class

porto's attack/defence being almost equal does not necessarily mean perfection. they just seem to show more balance than barcelona who don't even believe in strengthening the defence. if porto are balanced or perfect, they would be tearing everybody in europe a new one!

montelik: giggs is now a member of the backroom. odds are he will self select. better start accepting he will be in the starting lineup. lol

then the best we can hope for is 3-1 to city. of course, giggs would assist our solitary goal to make it look like he was useful on the pitch.

-----------de gea-----------
-smalling--rio--vidic--evra-
------carrick--fellaini------
--nani---rooney--kagawa--
------------RVP-----------

this is the ideal formation & our strongest team possible. city are very beatable as we speak. if moyes starts giggs on sunday ahead of kagawa, nani, young or valencia then he's a rëtard!

Donxavier: Ok what happened?

michael jackson's thriller reloaded.
on their way home from a romantic date, a full moon hovered and the dude turned from a gentleman into a grizzly beast. meanwhile, she's 100% innocent throughout this period - she was a flawless partner!

dayokanu: Not only the striker makes the attack. What the likes of Robben, Ribery, Muller contributes you cant get it from one single striker.

You dont have to be world class in every position to be balanced.

but bayern's defence is weak & the arrow head since klose/gomez left has been iffy. mandzukic is a second-tier striker. he does not match the creativity flowing behind him in robben, muller, goetze, ribery, kroos.

Man Utd Goalkeeping - Class, Defence- Solid, Midfield - Solid, Attack- Solid

inter 2010, ajax 1995, barcelona 2009, super eagles 1994, etc.

Perfect is not balance.

perfect is balance. balance is stability. you cannot be unbalanced and yet be perfect. this is common sense.

I told you Porto is more balanced than Barcelona, that doesnt mean they have one single world class player

perfection has nothing to do with world class status. a team of world class strikers can lose to stoke. there are other factors involved. porto are not more balanced than barcelona - they both have shyte defenders. barca trumps them in attack & midfield.

dayokanu: Bayern of last season is a balanced team. A team that can attack and defend. Bayern of Van Gaal wasnt and I am not too sure of this current season yet

they were not a balanced team - the attack is thin. mandzukic is not a world class striker by any means & bayern have no good defence.

Man Utd of 1999 is a balanced team.

this is almost true....but stam's partner in the defence was a weakling.

Barcelona is not because they are attack heavy and thin in defence, Same with the Madrid Galacticos

A Balanced team isnt necesarily a perfect team. Just a team that gives equal priority to all aspect of the game

bayern's team are also light in the defence. only lahm qualify as a world class player in that defence. the rest are visibly weak. you cannot tell us vidic/ivanovic/kompany would not improve that bayern's defence or lewandowski/falcao/RVP would not improve the centre forward position. if true then your team is not perfect. it's excellent but it's not perfect.

ritchboy: Actually, Bergkamp was more of an AM than CF. Rosicky is one of the finest AMs of the 21st century, too bad he's always injured and was played on the wing in his first 5 seasons.

Van Persie is definitely a better striker than Bergkamp, like i said he was more of a SS/AM. Statistically, RVP is top 3-5 in EPL history in terms of goals/assists per minute.

van persie is not better than bergkamp....
actually, there's no dutch player better than dennis bergkamp since johan cryuff. you said it yourself bergkamp is a number 10 so the issue of goals/assist is a moot point. this is like comparing maradona to van nistelrooy.

The point your missing is it's not a matter of whether Chelsea's midfield is balanced, it's a question of if the players there are good enough.

they are good enough but there are other factors involved. there are dressing room politics. there's no stability in the management. all these things do not help the players. the uncertainty shrouding their one new manager per season will not help the confidence of the players.

Mikel/Essien/Ramires/Lampard/MVG is enough bodies in midfield to balance a 25-man squad, the question is 'are they good enough?'.

they are good enough.....

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]No such thing as a balanced squad? Mate u'd probably tell me that there are no such thing as a team spirit.

Bayern would be my sole example in this, the transition periods, the shipouts of old legs that included the notorious cynical Van Buyten, the recruitments and the chase to strike a balance.

I'd post links where Juup, Felix Magath and co stressed the need for a balance to be striked - We might aswell need Dayokanu and A-40's view on this, hence, they're of the Bavarian persuasion.

A balanced team would lose games for sure cos losing is part of the game but they wouldnt lose like a team laid out for experiments in a footie laboratory like Arseanal and Chelsea of late.

Expect my links.[/color]

even dayokanu would tell you bayern are not a perfect team. i am sure he knows improvements can still be made to bolster the squad. perfection is 100% and bayern are still after lewandowski. so they are not there even there yet & there's no guarantee if they get lewandowski, they would rule europe.

Like I said before, the reason I responded to this thread is because I couldn't stomach what Coogar was trying to peddle about how abused women must remain there for incredibly silly reasons. It was the false parallels he was trying to draw that eventually led the argument off the rails and I myself had long bowed out of the argument before you arrived and asked that people continue making meaningful contributions.

ileoba, stop this village mentality of yours.....

nateevs: The point you are making is moot. There is no such thing as a balanced squad. It is a moving target. And an excuse made up by people who hide away from their responsibilities. I challenge you to find me one balanced squad on earth.

exactly....
not even barcelona are balanced. they just bring out the best of what they have got & this is why they hunt in packs to retrieve the ball, this is why they prefer the shortest passes possible on the pitch so that if they lose possession, it's easily recoverable. ultimately, this is why barcelona play low-risk football. they found a way to deal with the disadvantages of the number of nimble players in their first team.

swag queen: How about someone like my husband who runs away from home weeks on end? Is he not a coward? Is he not selfish? The real cowards are people like me who can't stand up against oppression,who are more concerned about what people would say....

to be perfectly honest, i didn't even read your story. i just cannot believe a man would wake up and beat his wife without any reason. like i said earlier, nigerian women don't even know verbal abuse is a form of marital abuse. if a wife verbally abuses her husband then she should not be too surprised if she gets physically abused.

both parties should learn to respect each other mutually. your husband runs away for weeks to cool off before he commits manslaughter or murder. emotional abuse, verbal abuse, etc are as bad as physical abuse. take a firm grip of your home before things fall apart. children are the primary victims of any separation or divorce.

ibime is a cartoonist.....
he spews more nonsense than a drunken caucasian faggöt! the uncanny ability to spew from both sides of the mouth is ibime's greatest strength.

i have never heard of united fans blaming david gill for the imbalance that has existed in united's midfield since 2009. the players in the chelsea rank are good enough to beat basel home & away. it's nothing to do with steel.

then again......
i dunno why debrief loves reading all these pity-party threads. if she's so interested on the gossips about the abuse of women in their marriages, she should find an NGO of abused wives and stay with them for a week with a tape recorder.

MyTeenCity: Sure. The Green Card Game: I Married an African Physician is specific to my story. The blog I have started this week is titled, "The Green Card Game" Perhaps others have fallen victim to African men marrying African American women for the purpose of obtaining citizenship. Therefore, their story may read The Green Card Game: He promised to pay me; The Green Card Game: We had children during our marriage-now what?
My initiative is to start a national dialogue to help other young African American women at minimal understand what they are truly getting themselves into. If you watched my video, then you have been introduced to my story. I am nearly finished with my memoir and it is full of facts from e-mails, written transcripts, and so forth to begin the process of cleansing my name. My ex was the most manipulative man I have ever met. It is time to share my story and begin healing. Thanks for chiming in.

this is hilarious.....
why do you think your husband is manipulative in what seems like a symbiotic relationship? just like you did the selection process of getting a man that is a professional, tall, dark & handsome is the way the african men also do their selection.....

why are the african men not whining that AA women only go for professional african men & not the layabouts? you cannot say you did not gain something in the relationship. as much as marrying for the green card may look immoral, it's the same thing as women marrying for physical looks or moneybags.

alutacontinua:
You berra face ileoba...see how woman is rubbing your bald head with correct words just lyk dt

Tufiakwa!

ileoba?
she's my paddy. why do i need to face ileoba when she is preparing a hot amala & egusi for me as we speak.

tchidi: Aunty Ile and Uncle Coogar, una good evening oº°˚!!

queen tchidi, how are you doing?

debosky: Nah, y'all are being too harsh on Rooney. He knew he could take liberties with BL, but if it we're say Bayern, he'd have acted differently. If to for the summer saga we wouldn't see this critique. Y'all need to let bygones be bygones and get behind the English Pele.

debosky, did you watch swansea decapitate valencia in spain? bony & michu would lick points off the big teams. beating valencia 3-0 away from home was just stunning!

slimyem: This just means that women have to be paranoid at all times...doesn't it?

yes, men are beastly & brutish sex predators always looking out to attack oblivious women.

ileobatojo: The fact of the matter is that you do not know my opinion on this issue because I have never stated it. So your attempt at making shi*t up for your personal entertainment is hardly amusing. Please quit yapping and allow people that exist in the 21st century come and make meaningful contributions to the thread. Have a good day.

ileoba, don't be antsy i had you figure out. since you are claiming you have never stated it, what's your opinion about parents marrying their wards off to cop financial gain? is it evil or harmless to your moral value?

Ujujoan: Coogar and Ile una no dey tire?
Lol!

seriously, ileoba is the biggest hypocrite this section has produced. when the traditional practise in nigeria suits the woman & shortchanges the man, ileoba is happy. when the same traditional practise requires the woman to endure or persevere, ileoba suddenly remembers the nigerian society is evil.

how can one be hot & cold at the same time?

bukatyne: Read NL and your beloved 'society!'

I sometimes wonder if there is an innate hatred women have for each other

women can't stand each other - there's always an invisible competition. the shorter girl feels threatened. the chic with the smaller böobs think miss endowed flaunts hers too much. any small joke can be magnified and turn to a major fracas. whereas, there's no length men won't take their jokes to.

however, i still love my naija women - you rock!!!

Ujujoan: @ Coogar if I understand what you are saying, you went to a hotel and hung around the lobby for over 10mins and nobody asked you anything? It's either the hotel management is grossly incompetent or you are lying.

you go look face before you approach me na. my fragrance alone would stop such security man in his tracks. i have lounged at the best hotels across major european cities, na yeye naija hotels go come intimidate me? you must be having a laugh!!!

No security concious hotel will allow anybody (man or woman) to hang around their hobby. It's against hotel rules. I've lived in hotels and I can tell you it's the same across board.

maybe for the agbero looking types dressed in tatters & looking unkempt plus rocking a pair of bathroom slippers. i put the effort to look good so i don't get discriminated against home or abroad. it's never happened to me.

Wheter you are dressed like GEJ or not, they will ask you to either wait outside or at the designated waiting area or at the bar.

Pls stop making up stories to prove a null point!

i stand at the main doorway waiting for my guests with my phone in hand keeping track of where they are and how to reach me. as a guest of the hotel, won't it be daft for the hotel staff that checked me in to think i am a yahoo-boy looking for a caucasian to kidnap??

uju, go & take your vitamins - you are not thinking straight!

StarBoard: Just some of the hogwash.
Yet the dude thinks he's the closest thing to Henry Winter this side of the equator.

henry winter ke? elampiro thinks he's andy gray. he claimed he once played for amodu shuaibu @ BCC lions.

[quote author=baby_123]The one i never understand is the girlfriend abuse. Not like the wife one is understandable. But the girlfriend own is beyond comprehension to me. How can a boyfriend abuse a girl? As in physically. Yea verbal, or emotional. But physically Are you an orphan on the moon. Has such a boyfriend seen a mad woman berserk For married women, you wont wanna kill your husband and father of your kids. But boyfriend ke? na wa oooo.[/quote]girlfriend abuse is even more common than marital abuse. some chics would tell you they want to be dominated, snarled at!!! it's part of their wild fantasies as long as it's not critical.

bukatyne: Coogar,
Scrap the society part in your posts and change it to women!

It is women who discriminate more...

really? ;
our own saintly nigerian women discriminate against their fellow nigerian females? nah - i don't want to believe that. every nigerian woman would make heaven by default. they are too righteous.

ileobatojo: There's this thing called using your brain you know, it allows you to view the merits and demerits of a practice, analyze it, discard the ones that are dangerous, and keep the ones that are useful or harmless. Since you have decided you have no need for your brain, why not donate it? There are many people on the transplant list that could certainly use it.

your mind is a terrible thing to waste....
how can you claim to own a brain and then embrace a practise and then say you have never supported it? you should get the award for the uncanny ability to speak from the 2 sides of your mouth. you either accept the practise wholeheartedly or reject it completely. you are criminally hypocritical....you are not even ashamed to say the concept of brideprice is useful/harmless. perhaps, this financial burden placed on the shoulders of men is the reason the men see themselves as a demigod.

As for being bought like a tuber of yam, save it for the mgbekes from your village. No bride price was collected for me and whatever pieces of yam were brought were grossly overshadowed by me and my family paying fully for my exquisite wedding. So go tell crap that to your hungry brothers and sisters in your village.

tell that to the birds.....
overshadow my foot! what would you say before? i am surprised you didn't claim you funded the entire wedding. the same ileoba that got married at 18 funded her wedding? you are a nanny goat!

ileobatojo: Why are you ranting like a rabid village he-goat?

rants? you must be hallucinating....
coming here to talk nonsense that the society shouldn't be rigid after taking a grown man's 200 tubers of yam and an apple laptop as bride price.

Please produce a quote from me where I commented in that thread that I don't see anything wrong with those practices or else, shut your putrid mouth and crawl back into the ancient cave you erupted from.

see this mgbeke hypocrite....
you saw something wrong with them yet when you were getting married, you didn't raise your timid voice against it. you were married in the traditional way so accept the traditional practises attached to the nigerian marriage. don't pick the ones that suit you & condemn the ones that don't - that's hypocrisy.

you should have fought against wearing aso-ebi & letting your husband prostrate for you plus letting him pay your bride price. it goes against your idealism that you were bought like a tuber of yam!