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Nairaland General › Re: Nigerian Men And Urinating Outside by coogar: 1:33pm On Aug 14, 2013
honey86: How many women have u seen with kidney failure in Nigeria and we successfully hold our pee. Bad habit is bad habit jor. Oys go obodo oyinbo go pee by the roadside and see if you wont land in jail. We just enjoy lawlessness in this land and we expect our environment to be like oyinbo's own.
there are public toilets everywhere in obodo oyibo - you can walk into any shop in obodo oyibo and they would let you use their loo - same does not apply in nigeria. if i am pressed, you would rather i piss in my pants?

ibkaye: It's not even just in Nigeria, shudders lol
if women have it easy like men to pull down their zippers and pee, they would do the same.
Nairaland General › Re: Nigerian Men And Urinating Outside by coogar: 1:29pm On Aug 14, 2013
ibkaye: You guys need to knock it off, it's annoyingly vulgar.
perhaps if the government cares enough to build public toilets everywhere, the incident would reduce. nothing is as refreshing as pissing al fresco. it's the most relieving act ever. grin
Family › Re: Nagging And Non Caring Wife by coogar: 1:25pm On Aug 14, 2013
Ujujoan: His father advised them against marrying a woman like their mother, I don't think their marriage was perfect. undecided undecided
perfect advice...
he advised them not to marry a woman that would not cater for her kids. she could have been a perfect wife but a poor excuse of a mother. read between the lines.

I also don't think the woman was rich all through the marriage. Like most couples, they must have started off as a normal husband-main breadwinner family. Somewhere along the line, mum became a rich biz woman. Maybe she was just acting out because of how the man treated her when she had nothing. undecided
i can understand if she's stingy to her husband but she's stingy to her own children. what kinda mother is that? any mother that did not contribute a penny in making me what i am today deserves nothing from me.

i have to see the hard-work & the contributions put in by both parents - i did not beg them to bring me into this world so all that excuses you keep cooking up for her are watery....

I'm just speculating, nobody knows the full story, but I find it very difficult to believe that a woman can be that cold for nothing!.
there are millions of them out there - women whose wombs should be taken from them by the government and given to women who know the value of children.

PS: I'm not justifying her actions, I just don't want to condemn her because I don't know the full story.
this is no hearsay - it came directly from the child that got the mistreatment. why would anyone make up stuff about his mother on a public forum?
Family › Re: Nagging And Non Caring Wife by coogar: 12:53pm On Aug 14, 2013
Ujujoan: I'm really sorry about your dad . . . but it's obvious your parents marriage had a lot of problems which must have manifested in your mum's attitude.

It's a pity!
how did you come to this conclusion?
is it not obvious she had a self-centred mother who would rather buy jewelries or expensive dishes instead of contributing to the welfare of her kids?

if i have a mother like hers, she won't get one penny from me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:44pm On Aug 14, 2013
elampiro: You said any set play into the box whether headed away or not is a chance created. I said never ever and ever.
yes, it is a chance created....

This is Opta's definition of a created chance. "a pass that directly leads to a shot from an intentional assist."

(a) Not the word a pass.
(b) it has to directly lead to a shot at goal. Not a goal mouth scramble or tussle.
(c) It also has to be an intentional assist. Which means only intelligent players or creators have the highest of this stat and are even more positioned and equipped to do so.
why are you telling me what i already defined for you last night, see this dude jumping around like he's discovered the cure to HIV.

the movement of a ball between one player to his teammate is a pass. if rooney whips the ball into the box, he can only hope a united player gets to the ball first - it's not guaranteed. if a united player gets to the ball, the pass is completed - if a shot is taken, a chance is created by rooney. if the shot scores, then rooney gets the assist!


1. Rooney's or any player's kicks into the box for random tussle cannot be part of those stat. Because he had only 51 created chances.
it is part of the stat if a shot is taken directly from rooney's whipped delivery. the shot does not have to be on target, go and read about football!

2. Ashley Young, Cleverly, Giggs and Nani all took corner kicks and free kicks from the left side of the field.
but it was rooney/van persie that got 15 goals from their cornerkicks. it means they are the largest contributors of set-piece goals.

3. Players who do not take set pieces are not at all disadvantaged, instead they are at great advantage to add to their goals ahead of those who took set pieces.
players who do not take setpieces are disadvantaged - they are marked in the box with defenders. there are fellow teammates in the box too competing with them and there's a goalkeeper in the box towering over them to claim the ball. the probability of getting credits for creativity is lower than rooney/RVP who have no pressure at all to deliver a cross in the box.

if rooney/RVP's ball get headed into the goal, they get an assist. if it gets headed off-target, they get credits for chance created and if they are lucky their delivery gets into the net, they get the goal. if it hits the post and there's a goal from the rebound, they still get the assist. if it hits a defender n becomes an own goal, rooney/RVP still get the assist.

see you in the evening.
don't come back.....
you have been undressed publicly....you don't even understand english to understand football dynamics. you have conclusively thought every cornerkick or freekick would lead to a chance created thus arguing rooney's 51 created chances should be 100. have you forgotten corners can be taken short or long? freekicks can be taken short or long?

seriously, arguing with you is tedious - only the lack of shame and lack of decorum would make you continue this argument.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 11:54am On Aug 14, 2013
fergie wanted him sold - had united bought lewandowski, falcao, etc rooney would have been sold. united are sick and tired of rooney's temper tantrums.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:46am On Aug 14, 2013
elampiro: Can prove this your statement? That any ball from a set piece into the box is a chance credited to the player who took it irrespective of whether it was headed away or not? We aren't kids na. Let's talk with verifiable facts.
you are a kid.....
anyone that thinks a corner-kick is not a form of setpiece or anyone who thinks united don't score from cornerkicks is a kid as far as i am concerned. didn't you also claim cornerkicks do not constitute chances created?

your football knowledge needs an upgrade....
any pass that leads to a shot taken in the opponents box is a created chance. the shot can be off/on target if you must know. so a ball whipped into the box by rooney, headed by evans and intercepted by a defender is a chance created by rooney!

From your statistics, Rooney created only 51 chances all season (in over 30 matches cumulatively), and given your argument that Rooney takes a lot of corner kicks and free kicks, how does this figure goes near your assertion? I can bet Rooney's corner and free kick all season should be over 100, to be conservative about it.
if you can bet rooney's corner/freekick are over 100 in a season then why do you put him as a more creative player than players who don't even take a single cornerkick or freekick? why are you defeating your own point? this dude is lost!!!

RVP played more matches than Rooney. Rooney also share his kicks with young. Young took much of the kicks from the left of the field whipping them into the box.
ashley young? how many games did ashley play last season? he played 1300 mins, less than 15 league games combined. how many freekicks or corners did young take to effect that of rooney that you claimed must have taken 100+ setpieces?

your argument is all over the place....
perhaps you have lost touch with the pace of the argument. the point is rooney cannot be compared to players who do not take setpieces as far as assist/chance created are concerned. do you agree with that or not?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coogar: 11:18am On Aug 14, 2013
jackbauersballs: Well it looks like We wont be signing Rooney after all.

Reports from Old Trafford suggest that the Glazers are determined not to sell Rooney even if he puts in a transfer request rubber stamped by the Pope.

With West Ham reportedly in the chase to sign Ba, it looks like No 9 duties are up for grabs between Torres and Lukaku.

And while it seems like Lukaku might just edge it over Nando, is he ready for the big time?
mourinho is an idiöt.....
he should offer torres and a durable midfielder like mikel or essien and moyes would rubber-stamp the deal. united do not want to sell because all other clubs have taken the available top strikers in europe....
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar: 11:15am On Aug 14, 2013
GenBuhari: Abacha never stole.
guess who falsely accused Abacha? - the very dishonest Obasanjo and his partners in crime IBB and Absulsalami Abubakar.
of course, abacha stole!
what are you talking about? he hid money in various banks in europe. however, this was revealed because he died. if he's still alive, we would never know he had that much in his coffers....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:11am On Aug 14, 2013
elampiro: If there is an interception or a goal mouth scramble from a set piece, then the player who took it won't be credit with the assist, except if there was just one more touch into the net from the kick. So until we are able to narrow it down with the exact statistics for individual players, this line you are towing will only end up being a distraction and distortion to facts.
any ball whipped into the box from a setpiece is a chance even when it's intercepted by the defender and headed out to corner....the players who take the set-pieces should never be compared to the ones who don't take them as far as parameters like chance created/assists are concerned.

so telling us rooney is more creative than berbatov or hernandez is a fraudulent statement. that has been my point from the outset. so whether rooney took one setpiece throughout the season or took 100 is irrelevant - fact remains he has an advantage over berbatov/hernandez.


Van Persie took all the free kicks from the right, he took most corner kicks in my calculation. Again only figures will state the fact.
which calculations? tell us how you arrived at this imaginary calculation....
Politics › Re: 40 Million Nigerians Jobless - Kolade by coogar: 11:05am On Aug 14, 2013
Lordave: we all ain't gonna got employed by government. I shouldn't argue more about this.
Though, that's not all my reason.
but has the government created an enabling environment for private companies to thrive? where's the security, basic amenities, good roads to attract private companies and foreign investors?

i hate it when people make excuses for the nigerian government. some of you should travel out and see how politicians in other countries listen to the people that voted them in.
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar: 11:00am On Aug 14, 2013
GenBuhari: Abacha never stole any loot.
abacha had money stashed in foreign banks - to the tune of almost $5 billion.

You should be asking what happened to all the loot Obasanjo stole? The guy built his farm on stolen loot.
What of the $16 Billion he took to give us light?
What of all the national assets he sold to himself for almost no money?
i am sure OBJ would have stolen more than that in his 8-year rule. i don't even know how he's able to walk freely in nigeria without getting maimed by nigerians. he single-handedly ruin this current republic.
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar:
Kei144: Obasanjo was much better than the military rulers that preceded him. He operated based on the amount of light that existed by the time he ruled. People may easily forget the level of darkness that existed just before his presidency. He was able to increase the light of the nation somewhat. Presidents that come after him are supposed to increase the light. I think that Johnathan is doing just that.
this is the lie you people keep telling yourselves - what's the fuel price during abacha's regime? how much was it during the OBJ era? compare the inflation rate in 97/98 to 2006/7(when OBJ was about leaving). more politicians died from assassin's bullets under OBJ's nose than any military government in the history of nigeria.

let's call a spade a spade - OBJ was a worthless leader.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:08am On Aug 14, 2013
elampiro: Until we know how many of such contributed to his stat, we will keep relying on them (the actual stat). In your argument too, it means Berba and Chicharito were at advantaged to score from set pieces while Rooney was wholy disadvantaged. So it will be fraud to use same parameter to judge Rooney on goals scored.
the player who takes the set-piece would almost certainly get the assist(if a goal results from it) or get the chance created credits if a shot is taken. berbatov and chicharito aren't the only players in the box trying to score from the set-piece so there own credits relies on probability. you should be able to spot that difference!


Using same logic, you will have to credit Rooney much in 2012/13 for coming up with higher assists and chances created because RVP took more set pieces.
surely, that's a joke....
rooney took more setpieces than van persie in 2012/13.
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar:
activeguy: This is the same man who slept with his son's wife, trying to teach us right from wrong.
Nigeria is cursed indeed !!
How could she not.,when this hypocrite who is the father of corruption and sleaze has the teremity to stand in midst of decent men and belch nonsense.
don't mind the obnoxious swine.....
irresponsibility does not get further with OBJ. morality and OBJ are parallel lines. incestuous leader - a man that should be taken to seme-border and stoned to death for destroying the lives of the present generation with his gross mismanagement and greed!
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar: 9:53am On Aug 14, 2013
eminikan soso: YOU JUST OPENED YAA BUCCAL CAVITY DEY YAN RUBBISH.
BETTER RESPECT YAA SELF OR?
respect myself or you die like a night's flight price like expedia, you homoerotic nuisance.

ode remo: that and many more.
thanks jare. this man think we are fools.
there will be no peace in the land till the last king is beheaded.
he's the most useless man ever - he's poor in spirit, he's an irresponsible father even to his own children. i am waiting for him to visit my country of residence again. i would pelt his face with class A eggs.

what happened to all the loot abacha stole?
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar: 9:47am On Aug 14, 2013
Lordave: easy, easy, easy buddy. I understand where you're coming from, but atleast, he's right about Abgero People's Congress (APC) leader Tinubu
OBJ had the opportunity to correct all the mistakes in the past after the military regime between 1983 and 1999. he had the backing of the international community, his was a democratic government. he could have easily succeeded with the right vision and morality, but he fücked it up.

i don't care what his predecessors are doing - OBJ screwed up the foundation from the outset. any house built on a shaky foundation would eventually collapse. what right has OBJ to speak about politics in this country? how many of you guys know OBJ is linked to chicken republic fast food restaurant in nigeria & all the chickens you eat there are from OBJ's farm?
Politics › Re: 40 Million Nigerians Jobless - Kolade by coogar: 9:38am On Aug 14, 2013
Lordave: Most of em jobless people are self made.
how's it self-made?
if the government of a country can't provide employment then there should be a welfare package. the politicians don't just care about nigerian citizens....
Politics › Re: Obasanjo - Nigeria Is Cursed, Criticized Atiku, Tinubu by coogar: 9:36am On Aug 14, 2013
this OBJ is a fool - he's directly responsible for the hardship nigerians face today. without a shadow of any doubt, he's the most useless, worthless and idiotic president nigeria has ever had.

in a developed world, he would have been in prison.
Politics › Re: 40 Million Nigerians Jobless - Kolade by coogar: 9:24am On Aug 14, 2013
i am waiting for ROSSIKE to dispute this figures - that boy puts the D in delusion!
Family › Re: How Do I Kill This Appetite Without Commiting Adultery Or Sin? by coogar: 12:03am On Aug 14, 2013
chaircover: Are people born with premature ejacullation? I dont know
Maybe it only just started recently . .I dont know
it's an inborn-trait - it's not a contagious disease. it's like baldness, stammering, rickets, shortness, etc. the explanation he gave his wife about multiple partners in the past is bullshyte. the more sex a guy has, the better he performs.

Whatever it is, it is a problem now, and they BOTH need to solve it. For better for worse. . .in sickness and in health. Different marriages and different crosses. Life!! sad
he needs therapy!
no amount of intimacy gadgets or pörn flicks can turn him around. his libido has been eroded.
Family › Re: How Do I Kill This Appetite Without Commiting Adultery Or Sin? by coogar: 11:38pm On Aug 13, 2013
dayokanu: Living healthy is one of the reasons why
The more the fat, the less the virility.
it's a problem with the young men in nigeria these days. no wonder the guy that owns alomo bitters has sold more than 200 million bottles.

Look at your high school reunion pictures and see how many of them have grotesque potbellies now. I finished High School in 1996 and when I see some of my mates pictures they look like my father friend
spot on, dayo!
they all look like rhinoceros each time i go on facebook. these lads are less than 30 and some of them can't even wear T-shirts without looking like a cow in gestation.

I used to live in Naija and our idea of relaxation and lifestyle is soo twisted. Those days I would sit down with friends and in one sitting quaff 9 bottles of big stout, Asun, Suya Nkwobi . No form of exercise whatsoever. 70% of guys over 25 drink Shekpe
thank god you left - you and yokozuna would have been the same size by now. i cannot understand how any man under 30 would be rocking pot-belly. yeye fools!

As one grows old activities reduces, Metabolism reduces at that point you have to make a conscious effort to either eat significantly less or exercise more
they need to be in the gym 20 hours per week to burn the cholesterol in their system. pot-belly also reduces the length of the pënis. the bigger the tummy, the shorter the phallus. i pity their wives!

chaircover: Cooger you are mad LOL!
This is a serious matter jare. I am sure both husband and wife are not happy. I feel for both of them.
in ibadan accent - "sear-cofa, mind yourself o."
the question is how did she miss his pathetic sëxual performance during their courtship or did they abstain till after their marriage?
Family › Re: How Do I Kill This Appetite Without Commiting Adultery Or Sin? by coogar: 11:23pm On Aug 13, 2013
chaircover: True that wink

Same items or would you like to try something new this time?
something new is odikwa risky. i want same order as usual. my wife particularly likes the spiked rampant rabbit. cheesy
Family › Re: How Do I Kill This Appetite Without Commiting Adultery Or Sin? by coogar: 11:17pm On Aug 13, 2013
chaircover: What a glowing recommendation from my fav customer tongue
When do you want the next container delivered lipsrsealed cheesy
next week.....
i don't want to be caught in the autumn rush this year. last year was super-hectic.
Family › Re: How Do I Kill This Appetite Without Commiting Adultery Or Sin? by coogar: 11:12pm On Aug 13, 2013
dayokanu: So Chaircover na expert for this kain thing
chaircover's empire stretches from the UK to the whole of western europe. half of africa use chaircover's products especially people of west africa - she's a guru in the business!!!! cool


babyosisi: Okokobioko indeed
This is not normal o
This ain't normal lai lai
Before you cook a minute rice the man is stone cold on the bed
Tua!!
Olorun ma je
the fact is close to half of naija men today are battling this problem. why do you think they all take shekpe every morning like pap? it's so bad that most of these guys cannot have regular sex without depending on herbs or performance enhancement pills. they have become so dependent on pills that their normal sëxual energy has vanished!

only few men in naija are living healthy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:01pm On Aug 13, 2013
elampiro: Our argument was about Rooney's 11 assists of 2011/12 season. You claimed he had the highest assists because he took set pieces. That season, United scored 12 from set plays. Rooney scored 6 penalties while Hernadez scored 1 penalty making 7 goals from 12 set pieces.
he probably did - berbatov played only 512 mins that season - which is less than 6 league games(540 mins). rooney was the main setpiece taker that season

Are you now saying Rooney assisted the remaining 5 goals from set play? Then he must be a genius. But even if that were to be the case, Rooney still have 6 or more assist left which is still the highest.
whether he's a genius or not is not the bone of contention - what i am saying is..... is it fair to judge rooney with players who do not take setpieces? you have not been able to answer this question since last night.

berba/chicharito do not take freekicks(direct or indirect) cornerkicks or crossed freekicks. to then compare them with rooney in parameters such as assists, chance created, etc is tantamount to fraud!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:19pm On Aug 13, 2013
elampiro: 1. 2011/2012 season is what we are talking about.
i.e How many of Rooney's assists and chances created are from set pieces vis a vis other players.
don't twist the cap - you told us we don't have drogba and terry to score from corner kicks. it seems you forget the things you say when debating. how did we score 15 goals from corner? you even argued yesterday rooney does not take cornerkicks for united? your lies have no boundaries!

2. You also have to narrow it down to individual players with link to support before it can be credible.
i don't have that time to scour my resources - rooney and RVP created 15 goals from cornerkicks. i am sure rooney took 9 or 10 of those.

3. I am yet to see where FA added one goal to Tevez and Berbatov. I am still searching my links to no avail.
if you don't know cornerkick = setpiece, you would never know there's a committee that award dubious goals scored after the season after reviewing disputable goals.

this is from premier league site - 2010/11 reads 21 league goals + 4 assists for berbagod!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:07pm On Aug 13, 2013
elampiro: 1. The questions remain: You need to narrow the set play down to how many were scored from corner kicks, free kicks and penalty kicks. And who took those kicks.
that's irrelevant to the argument - you have told us cornerkicks don't count as setpieces - do you now agree it counts?

2. United scored 10 penalties in all competition 2011/12 season, 6 penalties in the league. If you remove 6 or 10 goals from 12 goals how many is left?
the ones missed + the ones scored all count as chances created - since we all know berbatov/chicharito do not take freekicks or crossed freekicks, is it fair to judge them like rooney on chances created stat?

Vagues stat tell nothing. Giggs, Nani, Young all take corner kicks and free kicks. At our level we cannot be relying on assumptions. Link.
of course they do, yet it was rooney/RVP's cornerkicks that led to a whooping 15 goals last season. give up, go to bed - you have been annihilated and cremated - all i want to do now is to smoke your ashes with a paper torn from the holy book.

final nail in your coffin......

Goals scored via setpieces 2012/13 season

1) Man United – 26

2) Chelsea – 24

3) Stoke – 18

4) Manchester City – 18

5) Norwich – 18

6) Reading – 17

7) Arsenal – 17

cool Liverpool – 16

9) West Ham – 16

10) Sunderland – 15

11) Wigan – 14

12) Fulham – 14

13) West Brom – 14

14) Aston Villa – 13

15) Everton – 12

16) Southampton – 11

17) Newcastle – 10

18) Tottenham – 10

19) QPR – 7

20) Swansea – 5

ANALYSIS

•Manchester United scored more goals than anyone from set-pieces last season, mainly thanks to the outstanding deliveries from Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie from corners, which led to a huge 15 goals.

•Chelsea scored nine league penalties, more than anyone in the league, which helped them to second place in the set-piece goals table.

•The top three clubs in the real Premier League table, Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea all finished in the top three in the set-piece table. It pays to score from dead ball situations.

•Spurs and Swansea didn’t score a single penalty season, which is a major reason for them scoring from so few set-pieces. The passing brand of football both teams played last year also meant they were more inclined to score from open play than from dead ball situations.

•Unsurprisingly, Stoke scored more goals from set-pieces than any other side apart from United and Chelsea. Tony Pulis set his team out to be strong, physical and aggressive. They also launched nearly every freekick into the box whereas other teams often played it short instead. Stoke also scored three goals from their famous long throw, whereas no other club scored more than one.

•The other team who play this brand of football in the Premier League, West Ham, would hope to score more set-pieces next year with Andy Carroll waiting in the box.

•Norwich scored four goals direct from freekicks, thanks to Robert Snodgrass, but QPR, Stoke and West Brom failed to score one.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:47pm On Aug 13, 2013
elampiro: 1. Hve you gotten any victory ever since? Which victory are you claiming?
i eat you for lunch everyday - look at you, you clearly told us here that setplays do not count as chances created. how does it make you feel now that you have been undressed in public?

2. So only 12 goals were assisted from set play all season and you were shouting Rooney Rooney Rooney. Giggs, Nani, Young and Cleverly account for about 80% of our set play.
they do not! this 2011/12. rooney was the chief taker in the league. there was no van persie with us then.

3. So except you give us leak and narrow down you figure to individual players, your statistic is not credible. The Coogar I know will rush to publish such if Rooney actually had so much from set play.
statistics from opta is not credible? statistics that showed the bazillion of chances created by set piece is not credible? do you know how many minutes rooney played that season in the league? i can bet he took 70% of those setpieces - the same setpieces you lied to us do not count as chances created.

elampiro, give up - you have been sonned!

4. Your stat also does not tell how many of these set plays are for Carling cup, FA cup etc.
another weak point - the stats clearly showed united's number of goals in the league - 89 goals. how then can you expect FA cup and carling cup to be included? elampiro, you are desperately scraping the barrel now - people are laughing at you.

5. You are also yet to establish that corner kicks account for the figures used for players. Now, if corner kicks were used, how come Rooney is said to be losing possession after 46 touches? What about the corner kicks he takes that fell to opponents, it should have reduced lose of possession/ball touch statistics.
so in your 4 years of watching man utd, you do not know cornerkicks count as a setpiece? this is epic......somebody help me. elampiro doubts cornerkick is a type of setpiece - somebody quote this post for future use cos i am sure elampiro would dispute this later in the future.

another football lesson......

https://squawka.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Reading-Stats-and-Performance-Ratings-from-Squawka.com_.png


Only 12 goals scored from set play. Remove United 10 penalties scored that season. How many left.
beating you in an argument is my favourite pastime now - it's like taking a toy from a child......

this is what the league would have looked like if we remove setpieces from united's goals...

https://i0.wp.com/www.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/s_38_398_League_with_goals_from_play_only.jpg?resize=400%2C270
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:12pm On Aug 13, 2013
elampiro: @ Coogar, you are going round circles. I think I am done. 70% of assists from set play, yet there is no evidence. Argumento irrelivanto. How many United goals are from set plays? Do we have a John Terry and Drogba who scores from set play? Giggs, young, Nani and Cleverly take 70-80% of our kicks.
we don't? really? why do we win championships then if we don't have players that score from set-plays? if i pull out stats now, you would quickly shut down your computer and hide.....

in short, let me put the nail in your coffin once and for all and claim another victory...

https://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Chart-2-goal-assist-setplay-2011-2012.jpg

as you can see, 12 goals were assisted from setplay in 2011/12 and 45 chances were created from setplay. we had no van persie then - rooney was the only striker we had that took setplays. how won't his stats be skewed to make it look like he's the dog's bollocks.

https://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Chart-1-chances-created-setplay-2011-2012.jpg

https://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Table-1-chances-created-per-goal-assist-setplays-20112012.jpg

elampiro, underrate setplays at your own peril.... grin

https://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Table-2-percent-of-goals-scored-from-set-pieces.png

another one bites the dust, elampiro - another L for you in an argument you shouldn't even be getting involved in. you are an apprentice in this business!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:52pm On Aug 13, 2013
elampiro: Berbatov never scored 21 goals. He scored 20. He waps joint highest scorer with Tevez at 20 goals, but using traditional award style Tevez's name comes first.
you have started again with your gay fonts..
if you get hit by spambot, don't go crying to your priest you have been marginalised.

berbatov & tevez scored 21 goals each in 2010/11. the fact is there on premier league website. a goal was added to each of their final tally by the committee that looked at dubious goals awarded during the season. one woulda thought you would know this with the number of united news you copy n paste here on a daily basis. why am i debating with a novice?

When you add goals and assists, Rooney is far ahead of Berba in the two seasons under consideration irrspective of minutes played. So Rooney is far more useful.
70% of those assists are from set-plays. if berba does not take set-plays, how can you even bring such argument to an intellectual panel?

2. You don't seem to understand the meaning of through balls. RVP was able to use Rooney's through ball to score against Aston Villa, and two UCL matches. He however missed one against Madrid. But Berbatov and Chicharito were clueless as to what to do with Rooney's through balls.
you are the one struggling with english language...
rooney wasted 27 through passes - he hit inaccurate passes 27 times out of 34. that's an act of treason! rooney wants to be like scholes hitting hollywood through passes that can never be completed.

Rooney made 1.3 through balls every match and Berbatov and Chicharito could not read them well or chase properly after them. If they were real footballers, they would have read those Rooney's though balls well.
79% of that 1.3 passes per game were not accurate - which means rooney's throughpasses were largely useless. elampiro would rate a striker that had 1000 chances n scored 20 over the other that had 20 chances and scored 18. the question is who is more clinical with the through-passes?

obviously, rooney is the most useless!

Also, how come three support strikers were only able to come up with 8 through balls all season of 38 matches. Is that not starving the lead striker? Unlike Rooney who made 1 through ball in a match, the combination of Berbatov, Chicharito and Welbeck made one through ball in 4 matches. What will Rooney use to score?
that's because rooney played a combined total of 32 league matches and berbatov had less than 6 league matches. chicharito is an arrowhead - he's never played behind a striker so who would he make a through-pass to?

3. Berbatov scored his 20 goals in 10 league matches against weak oppositions. He featured in 32 league matches, maening he went dry in 22 league matches. Meanwhile there were six more matches dealt with without him. How was that a good season for any striker? Rooney spreads his goals and assists across several matches, hitting the big teams in the process.
stop lying - berbatov scored 21 league goals in 11 different games. he started 24 times, was subbed out in 8, stayed on the bench in 2 and wasn't in the squad at all on 4 different occasions.

21 goals in 24 starts without a penalty is epic - the best record in the history of the premier league by a distance.

4. In number of through balls in 2010/11 when both had same playing time. Berbatov went to sleep again, including Chicharito. Uncreative co-strikers.
berbatov was a lead striker in 2010/11, same as chicharito. top strikers don't do through-passes. they rarely have a team-mate ahead of them.

5. Berbatov losses possession twice more often than Rooney despite playing in a less pressure area. Chicharito losses possession 3 times the time Rooney lost it despite Rooney playing in more pressured area.
rooney played mostly behind berbatov in 2010/11. logic dictates the player closer to the opponent's goal is in a more pressure zone than rooney who is playing keep-uppy with van der sar. rooney drifts as deep as carrick to get the ball and launch attacks - areas where there's no pressure from the opponents!

6. Another point to support Berba was lazy in helping Rooney, he could only touch the ball once in 2 minutes from a support role whereas Rooney on the heat lead position touched the ball every minute and reatined possession twice better.
with rooney taking most of the set-plays, it woulda been a travesty if he doesn't touch more than dimitar who was a silent assassin. i remember the away game at blackpool - united were at the brink of losing 0-2. fergie had seen enough of rooney's idiocy, he took rooney off n introduced hernandez - united won 3-2(2 from berba, 1 from chicha).

Berbatov the hyena should have been sold to Carlisle. He was lazy in using Rooney's through balls, now see how RVP uses them better.
golden boot winner - sold to carlisle? until rooney wins the most coveted individual award in the premier league, he cannot come near berbatov, drogba, tevez, ronaldo, RVP, ruud, henry, anelka.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:48pm On Aug 13, 2013
doncaster: if Rooney is useless don't you think you asking for too much?
nah - chelsea need rooney more than united need torres/mikel. of course, i am not asking for too much.

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