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babuji: You decided Toju was a good enough candidate for the husband and so you started doing everything you did for his predecessor, cooking and cleaning, being just the perfect wife material but that ended abruptly too the day he told you tearfully he couldn’t marry you because you are an Ijebu girl. This time you wept uncontrollably and begged him with everything he held dear, but he assured you it wasn’t his decision, that his family mandated him to break up with you and there was nothing he could do
about it. He told you how much he still loved you but insisted he had to let you go. It was two weeks to your passing out, you were devastated, you had already started planning the wedding in your mind, you had even picked the aso ebi in your mind, you were already sure of what you want the wedding colours to be.

montelik: I thought you said we played with wingers. I see only one winger in that line-up and before you try to claim Park, he played in the middle similar to Welbeck on Tuesday. We were bold, but we certainly paid respect to Milan's strengths as well, by packing the midfield. Just like we did on Tuesday. You are complaining Rooney didn't play tuesday, yet SAF preferred to leave Valencia and Berba out against Milan in 2010 for added steel of Park and Fletcher. But since we won convincingly you are trying to rewrite how we set up and played.

StarBoard: And Ronaldo has never shown up on big European nights previously?
Ronaldo, a perrenial WPOTY candidate is whom you are using to justify your argument? How can you draw parallels between van Persie and Ronaldo?
Apples and oranges, my friend.They are not in the same category of player abeg.
Fact is, van Persie has NEVER been one to do the biz on big CL nights.

Van Persie had at least two clear attempts with only the keeper to beat in that game in Madrid. He should have scored at least ONCE in both legs given the clear-cut opportunities he had. Leave this conversion rate thing. It's just a way you have manufactured to defend inefficient people being paid large salaries.

Wayne Rooney killed Milan at Old Trafford and the San Siro with two goals from how many attempts? Answers on a post-card please.

Enough said.Nail on the head.
If coogar wants to credit a goal Arshavin scored to van Persie or include a very late goal when United were 4-0 up on aggregate as a big goal just to justify his point, then that is his opinion.

Van Persie is just an EPL player. For all the creativity in the Dutch side at Euro 2012 and World Cup 2010, he doesn't have a brilliant record either at national team level at the big stage.

montelik: Stop perambulating to avoid the issue. We were not as bold as you say we were against Milan in 2010. You got it wrong.

dayokanu: Someone who scored 4 goals in less time has failed yet a fellow striker who scored 1 goal in the same time has excelled?

Pass that blunt to the left

dayokanu: Demba ba 2 league goals 2 cup game goals
Torres 0 league goals 1 cup game goal
Tell us why Torres is still failing when compared to Demba ba. In the same club with the same service

Cut back? Torres was released free on goal all he needed to do was jab the ball one touch and what did the did do? he cleared it back out of danger. What a dunce

dayokanu: How come Demba ba has 4 goals since january and Torres has 1 despite playing more games

An example of the chances Torres wasted yesterday. Check the lovely ball flighted to him and what Torres did with it.
Later we would be told he doesnt get chances. I would make a gif of it when I get home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLnwjbavgQ

montelik: Wasn't Park played in the center for that specific reason (to limit/shackle Pirlo), after which he got rave reviews, despite SAF leaving £30m Berba out of both games. Don't try and rewrite history.

Cristalz: I like your imagination .
That's not a tactic; it's the action of a striker who doesn't feel confident enough to go for goal himself, so he stalls and waits for midfielders (for God's sake!) to go ahead of him while he feeds them.
"Advancing runners" indeed. Torres is the main man meant to be advancing - that is the tactic. Feeding a midfielder once in a while is okay, but getting comfy in that imagined "role" is cowardice. Just imagine RVP doing that in every game he plays.
I mean, what striker in his right mind doesn't want goals to his name??

But let's flip the coin and assume that it is indeed a "tactic", which only means one thing. Turning an out-and-out striker, a goal poacher a la Dimitar Berbatov into some dude who waits for "a long ball to be passed to him with his back toward the goal" so he can feed it to "advancing runners" is simply an acknowledgement that this erstwhile goal poacher is now useless in front of goal.

They learned to do that when time proved that Torres would only ruin their hard work in front of goal. Go figure. The second reason for that is, they simply do not find Torres in the right goal-scoring position to be passed to.

Then again, I thought you said that was the "tactic"-play the ball behind Torres so that he can hold it then make assists for the other guys advancing ahead of him. Why are you now blaming the wingers for following the tactic?
Make up your mind, Coogar.

nitlad: This is the point I'm trying to underline;
Rooney's goal against Barca at Wembley is hardly regarded as a career high, but was/still being eulogized to high heavens for the ruthless manner with which he vanquished Milan 3 years ago!

Arising from the fore-going I can boldly say RVP has not proven his mettle yet in the grandest manner possible on the continent!

dayokanu: He was the most wasteful vs AC Milan and should be blamed for their exit.

Scored the winning goal vs Barcelona? Was that not Arshavin

Cristalz: LOL, are you serious? Why does he get positioned as point man then when they go 4-5-1? He is a striker, what else are you primarily supposed to focus on if not goals?

Good 'ol Abraham did not spend 50 million to have him assist. He was bought to score.
Dem Liverpool guys must have jazzed him when he left.

nitlad: Ogbeni, talking bout 'Big European Nights', I'm talking about showdowns between the who's who, and crème de la crème of the game. Ibra has been a bottler in those kinda games, so has RVP! United vs Cluj would hardly get Busby Way to hold breath in attention, not to talk of the rest of the footballing world!

dayokanu: How many goals has your friend Fernandud scored this season?

in 37 starts all competition. He has failed woefully. 3 Europa league games and he cant even muster a shot on target

nitlad: RVP is just like Zlatan, setting domestic leagues alight, but freezes out on the big European nights!

StarBoard: Unfortunately, the tactics were responsible for the misses that could have gotten us through especially when put through on goal.
Unfortunately his Champions League record is something we should wave aside, even if it is a glaring fact.

StarBoard: Thank you nitlad.
My point exactly about van Persie.
Just a Premier League striker that goes missing in big games in Europe in my view. So I'm wondering whether it was worth buying him. A solid middle man woulda done United better than van Persie abeg.

Inept striker scored at the Bernabeu.
The accurate one fluffed three good chances in the same game.
you tell us who among the two in the two ties was inept.
Inept Striker prevented the accurate one from hitting target by scuffing his shot tamely off target.

CFCfan: I agree, Torres and the entire team were hapless tonight

Cristalz: @Coogar
Ferguson has already said Giggs will not feature in Sunday's match, and Wayne is gonna start.
Why are you being so moved about this. . .did you lose a huge bet, perhaps?

adebayo201: abeg make we forget this UCL jare, sunday don already reach ...... FA cup on my mind!

StarBoard: Too acute to make clean contact and hit target or make the keeper work?
Don't agree, nucca.
You're making excuses for a very inept performance over two legs by RvP.

It's not the first time Rooney has been played out of position.
It's not a new thing for him either. He did that at the latter end of Ronaldo's tenure at United. His performance at Madrid was below par for me, even as a Rooney supporter.
As poor as he was at the Bernabeu, how can you judge that he would play better than Giggs did? Please do not use the games vs Norwich and QPR as a reason.

Cristalz: SAF pointed out that Giggs was the best player on the pitch on Tuesday.
Am I going with Fergie or Coogar on this. . .I think Fergie has it.

The gaffer's choice of tactics turned out to be a good one. His choice of players was his prerogative and it worked well for the chosen tactic; he had a game plan which it seemed he was gonna execute in stages till the red card happened and his brain underwent a Turkish semi-freeze.

Lay off Giggs already. He didn't deny Rooney anything. Ferguson did.

Well, I care about Sunday. Two trophies are still better than one.
Besides, would be a lot of fun to beat Chelsea.

StarBoard: Yeah but if van Persie converted one of those chances in Madrid, the red card might not have been an issue.You cannot divorce the events of the first leg from the second. It's a two-legged tie.
No mention of the chance created by the much-maligned Giggs for van Persie in the first half that he scuffed.
Please lay off the criticism. Giggs did well.

How was his performance in Madrid?
I wouldn't benchmark his form vs lowly Norwich and QPR to vouch for his place on the starting line-up vs Real Madrid. Your last statement masks your criticism of him so far this season.

montelik: If you concede that Welbeck deserved his start in the middle after the brilliant job that he did on Alonso, then you are scapegoating as Cristalz says. Have you seen Rooney's performances when played wide this season, did you see how awful he was in Madrid? When Cristalz pointed it out, you claimed he was out of position and excused his poorness, which is true and I agree. But yet you think despite his consistently poor play (when wide this season) he should still have played on the wing just so you wouldn't have put up with Giggs in the starting eleven. You are complaining more on sentiment just cause you no longer want Giggs to play in any important games for United. If you were actually being genuine you would have called for Valencia/Young to take the Giggs position rather than all this crying over Rooney.

I am done talking about Tuesday night.

StarBoard: Half-chances?
Please o.Danny Welbeck got himself into positions where he could threaten. Robin van Persie had one early in the first half.He didn't even manage to make clean contact.
Besides what if I blamed Van Persie for the ones he missed at the Bernabeu?

Coogar is now advocating for a player he once labelled as the worst in terms of " bottom-level" to be given a chance to play against Real, just to give his argument credence.Interesting.

Cristalz: Superstition at best.
If Welbeck took "the Rooney role" and has a worse finishing than your dear granny, why pick on Giggs? Especially when he was faultless.

Agree to disagree, C. This is becoming old.

In other news....Chelsea lost tonight. Weak performance that made a lil' attempt at picking up near the end of the 2nd half.
They weren't organized defensively....Bertrand was a sorry story. Guess Ashley got rested for Sunday.
If our guys are on top of their game, we should nail 'em nicely.

flexyonline: When you are found out you resort to abuses and insults abi? You sound like an ACN supporter. I'm still waiting on your definition of what a petroleum engr does in your own understanding and not google definition. Hope you realize that All those semi-illiterate (as you call them) oyinbos that work as operators and technicians in the oil field are not petroleum engineers and do not work as petroleum engineers

Cristalz: And you know this because....your crystal ball said so, perhaps?

And FYI, you avoided answering why chances, or "half chances" (in your opinion) were created for Welbeck but mysteriously weren't created for RVP.
Welbeck must have two heads!

Or here's a thought. . .maybe RVP was simply too ill-positioned for his teammates to find. It wasn't about having Rooney on or not.
Plus, most of the time when RVP did get the ball, quoting a friend that saw the game with me..."na RVP sef dey spoil ball"

montelik: If that is true then he should GTFO. After mugging us for £250k per week, and hasn't even improved since his bumper pay rise, he can go sharpish. Good riddance, lets see if he will find anyone beyond the money miss roads across town, in London or Paris who will pay such wages. White Pele my a**. Kagawa scored a hat-trick this weekend and was benched, no one is screaming as to why he was left out. Evans was faultless in Madrid, yet was also dropped. Rubbish and nonsense.

flexyonline: Guy your posts are just filled with fallacies of improper assumption. The fact that you assume those guys do not have a degree does not make it true. I can confidently say you are an outsider to the oil industry. You hear gists here and there and use your native intelligence to fill in spaces and make it sound like you are informed. And I didn't see petroleum engineering in the list you posted. You think talking about their pay makes any impression. Guy if I start talking pay here you people will accuse me of arrogance again.

flexyonline: Guy I have worked in Aberdeen. There are no such petroleum engineers there.

flexyonline: How does this vitiate my point? Pet engr is what I do and you have said secondary school leavers can do the job. For that assertion to be true there should be examples.

dayokanu: Now to your question after Ife I worked in a Bank. The skills I used to get the job and the work I did there had Nothing to do with my Chemical Engineering training I received from Ife.

Infact after SSCE I could pass that Maths and English test and perform the banking duties.

Most people who work in banks would tell you the same thing.

You work in a bank, as a marketer earning 300k How did your degree in Physics help you in that? You work in a Bank as a teller How did your Mechanical Engineering help with that? Infact in some banks OND's perform the same role

In other job functions I have done after tha Banking experience I have applied some stufs I learnt as an Engineer but many of my colleagues have been bank workers since then and never used any Calculus, Numerical analysis, navier Stokes, Nor Runge-Kutta methods