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denzel2009:
Apple fan boys go sit down not everyone is a into games.

you should try the i-message on i-phone, it's pure sex too.
when addresses get ported into siri-uk. . . .i would plead with siri to find you a sexy nigerian girl.

texazzpete:
At this moment I can whip out Street Fighter 4 or Football manager 2012 on my iOS devices. They don't exist on Android. No amount of 'openness' will put them there. Developers prefer iOS, there are lots more apps on iOS.

you should try fifa12 on the iphone - it's pure sex.

dayokanu:
What are you ranting about It has been proven on this thread that your football knowledge ranks at par with that of a larva.

spoken like a true homoerotic nuisance. . . . .coming from a zombie that said a normal striker cannot play as a false striker.
your football knowledge is non-existent. i have told u times without number you know nada.

Young is an average striker.

ashley young is a winger, you ninny!

Muller doesnt play as a striker for Bayern neither club nor country

you told us he does/did.
bayern has played 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-3-1 in the last 3 seasons.

Lets start from these baby steps, when you properly digest this, then we can go into more intricate footballing issues
For someone who claims Bayern plays 4-4-2 in this age then its no use. Table soccer seems to be your forte not football

you told us so in july 2010.
the quotes are there. . . . .go to your archives and check your idiotic ramblings last summer.
i did not write it, you did.

dayokanu:
Age means nothing? Seriously?

different trajectory for different players.
ronaldo became world player of the year at the age of 19. . . . .@ 19, zidane was probably the worst midfielder in his academy.

Why didnt Messi win Ballon D or in 1998? or why didnt Ronaldo Lima win in 2009?

age means shyte. . . . . .like i told you - some players are early developers whilst some are late bloomers.
which of this is ambiguous for you to grab. who was makelele at the age of 19?

Cos when you present stats of Ashley Young in 2007, Were you expecting similar stats in 2007 of Muller, Ozil, Kroos, Schurrle, Reus or Gotze who was in JS3 or SS1

don't be such a tool!
i presented the stats of ashley young in 2007 to counter that of nani.

keep your eyes on the ball. . . . . .you said signing young was an error. i replied that you must be a tool to come up with that n said young is in the same class as nani and rooney. . . . .

idiotically, you came back ranting about his age and the number of caps. . . . .then i countered back with nani vs young stats.
foolishly, you came back again to compare young to the no-mark german players who would never win the champions league. . .

then. . . .i brought you back to earth and said. . . .the stats of ozil/muller vs young in the previous seasons don't count. . . .they were playing in bigger clubs with more quality players than ashley young's aston villa and we should focus on this season as everyone of them now plays in big teams.

finally, i printed their stats this season. . . . .and without a shadow of doubt, ashley young has performed much much better than his counterparts including nani. this was just me proving you wrong that ashley young's acquisition wasn't an error.

2011/12 season

muller: 2 goals, 4 assists, 15 appearances, 1281 mins
young: 2 goals, 5 assists, 10 appearances, 811 mins
nani:---3 goals, 4 assists, 14 appearances, 1062 mins
ozil:----0 goals, 5 assists, 14 appearances, XXXX mins.

dayokanu, your german players took a helluva beating from ashley young.
statistics said so.

You are so dumb if thats what you are expecting infact Antione Dodson puts it properly

if being foolish was a felonious crime, dayokanu would get death paragraphs!
you have lost your ability to comprehend and you are a tool of copious proportions. you should go back home - lock yourself in the closet and weep profusely for being a w@nker.

MRbrownJAY:
damn, you are indeed a hard nut to crack!!!!!
you are going in circles bro, if there are different hang overs then why do you "assume" that fathers automatically will be drinking to stupor and be dazed the next morning? since you said it yourself "you can drink and NOT be under the influence", lol!

sleepless nights can get you hung over. that is my point.
this is why fathers must stay at home and be ready to prepare for their kids early. alcohol or no alcohol is immaterial.
staying wide awake when a father should be sleeping is the crux.

let me give you other economics on STRIP CLUBS, most customers stay 2hrs tops in strip joint, NOBODY STAYS THERE from 10pm till 7am. . . . . . .unless they are infatuated by one of the entertainers. i am talkilng PROPER PROFESSIONAL strip joints, i have no idea what you are on about. . . . . . . but then again, google Spearmint Rhino to have an idea of what i am talking about.

a fact whipped out of the stratosphere or you keep a time log of the customers that attend the strip clubs you used to work for.
on one side of your mouth, you have never been to a strip club. . . .on the other side, you have worked in one.
like i said - anyone can say whatever on a faceless forum. it's tedious, polemic and i don't get into dickwaving contest.

i dont know what you are on about, the places i am telling you about are DEFINITELY not to go and dance but SOLELY to watch entertainers dance nekkid. its been called a strip club because STRIPPING is the reason people go there, just like a "poker club" is where people go to play poker (not dance), or a fishing club is where people gather to go fishing together (not fish and dance lol)

poker club---alcohol are served.
strip club--alcohol are super-served. it's for adults not children.
wherever adults gather, alcohol is served.

thank you and so long as he does his duties, he can do what he wants in the night. who are you to be claiming that going out at night is irresponsible? live your quiet life and stop worrying about others having FUN!

well - if he's responsible, i doubt his partner would bring his matter online to be dissected.
you never thought of that?

well i am safe to say that you have NEVER been to a proper STRIP CLUB then!

behind your dusty dell desktop, you could infer the above?
please, tell me the lottery numbers for tonight.

then dont automatically assume (again) that you are the only one who has set foot in such places. lol

somewhere you claimed you have never been - you now know the workings of it?
haha - nairaland with so many twists n turns. so what's your final answer?
have you been there before or not?

since you actually believe that a man goes to strip joints until 7am then here is something for you to consider, mr SMART SOMEBODY: what if he stays awake the whole night, then prepare his kids for school AND THEN goes to sleep.  or would THAT be also wrong in your world?! lol!

still irresponsible for any father to leave his kids and party out on a regular basis.
madeleine mccann's parents still regret leaving their daughter alone in their rented hotel till today. she's yet to be found.

and when you DO know who you are dealing with, do you let you guard down or you keep the paranoid stance?!

none of the above. . . .i just apply wisdom.

says who?! how can you sit here and ASSUME (again) he didnt want the kids? did you talk to the guy and he told you he never wanted the kids?! use your mind, pls! having unprotected s[b]e[/b]x can result in pregnancies and most of these people KNOW of these consequences. ITS CALLED LIFE!!!!

he did not want them. i actually know one of the women involved.
initially, he actually denied responsibility - so don't even strut into that room.

then why bring this case if you dont believe it being the rules?! should i also bring ONE OFF cases?! come up with damn facts or nothing. hey, my neighbor just happened to crack her head open while talking on her phone in the kitchen, should i bring such silly statement to stop people from using cell phones?! duh!

irrelevant to the topic.

i guess

2face and you must be tight like that. pls next time you see to him, ask him for a signed CD for MBJ! come on!

like i said, i know one of his baby-mommas

whatever YOU believe is responsible or NOT is IRRELEVANT here. just because YOU are paranoid like that about pregnancy, DOES NOT mean that a man who has a baby while unmarried is IRRESPONSIBLE.

a man who has a baby he did not plan for is irresponsible.
there's a universe of difference between the two.

AGAIN, a man who CARES/FEEDS and RAISES his kid IS RESPONSIBLE (however it may hurt you to accept that fact)

he's not responsible if the kid lacks a father figure.
money and material things are not enough. being there for him is more important.

dayokanu:
You knwledge of football is shocking
Can a real striker play as a false striker? is English your problem or Just basic football knowledge

the most idiotic question i have been asked in my 10 yrs of blogging.
of course, a real striker can play as a false striker. messi plays as a false striker for barcelona.
rooney in 09/10 played as a false striker for man utd in many games.

what is this tool talking about? false striker is a role. . . . .travel deep to hold the ball and leave your markers to mark space.
if one of the markers follow you upfield, the space he left would then be utilized by runners/wingers/etc. a ploy used by many strikers to fool thomas vermaelen time n time again that season.

for more education to improve your idiocy coefficient. . . .
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/01/31/arsenal-1-3-manchester-united-wayne-rooney-brilliantly-demonstrates-the-value-of-a-false-nine/

Arshavin once played as a false striker means he is a striker?

arshavin played as a supporting striker/attacking midfielder/play in the hole.

Man Utd on Wednesday started with Rooney and asa alone striker how many did they end with?
You see how your knowledge of football fails like Shomolu NEPA?

nope. . . .your knowledge of football is so shallow, a worm wouldn't survive in it.
what an idiotic football pundit.

on wednesday, according to dayokanu. . . . . .man utd started with 5 defenders(smalling, jones, rio, vidic, evra),4 wingers(park, giggs, young, valencia) and 1 strike(rooney).   there was no player in the central midfield at all.

------------------de gea-------------------
----smalling--rio--jones--vidic--evra---

nani----------------------------------young
park----------------------------------giggs
-------------------rooney-------------------

dayokanu:
Bundesliga is shyte, No wonder BL players go to the world cup and shyte on everyone

No wonder a Demba ba who made 25 goals in 2.5 Bl seasons is already on 16 EPL goal in less than one calendar year

No wonder Roque Santa Cruz who was a failure in the BL scored 19 goals in one EPL seasons

No wonder players like Aguero, Silva, Mata, Torres who were average in the La Liga are ruling the EPL now

No wonder the top 2 EPL teams are in Europa league

No wonder, no wonder

bundesliga

one champions league final in 10 seasons.
no german player has one the champions league in 11 seasons.
no german player has won on the continent in 11 seasons
no bundesliga team has won anything in the continent in 11 seasons.

bundesliga is so wack, they should be zeroed!

dayokanu:
The money spent on your education should have been spent feeding swines
Can anyone who is literate read and traslate this for coogar?
For which thread?

i know you would deny it.
i am sure mukina2 logged in with your username and posted that.

When you see Gomez, Klose and olic on the field thats 4-4-2. Where did you see Muller in this, and How many times have you seen 2 of those 3 on the same field together?
And what is so difficult to understand in this? many teams when searching for goals yank off defenders for Strikers.

Muller might play as a false striker - Dayokanu 2010.

How many strikers did Manure end up with on the field vs Basel? Was that a reflection of their tactics for the day?

2---rooney and macheda.
welbeck played as a left winger. nani on the right.

In European football, I repeat you are wayy inferior, Reading opta and other website wont give you football intelligence, If you dont have it by age 19 you cant have it again for life

you have been left with poop on your face.

i have listed the statistics of nani, muller, ozil and young(this season).
there's no significant difference between bayern munich, real madrid and man utd in terms of strength.

some would even argue man utd is not as strong as madrid and bayern and yet in 2011/12, ashley young has performed better.
dayo - say it again? was signing young an error or not?

i am sure you won't answer that question. . . . .you moronic swine!

dayokanu:
Marko Reus at age 21: 12 goals 9 assists

Marco reus current season 11 goals 1 assist

but we all know bundesliga is shyte na.
how can you compare ashley young of the premier league to marco reus of bundesliga?

dang it - i am struggling to cope with your line of reasoning.
on one side of your mouth, bayern often played 4-4-2. . . . on the other side, bayern never played 4-4-2 in the last 3 seasons.

dayokanu, you are a glorified zombie!

dayokanu:
This illiterate keeps talking

When has bayern ever played 4-4-2 in the last 3 seasons?

Everyone in the world and their dogs know Bayern and now every team in Germany plays 4-2-3-1

I always told you when it comes to European footie you are a neophyte

you are a glorified simpleton.
on 10th july 2010, at exactly 5.14pm---which falls within the last 3 seasons. . . . .

dayokanu: For which thread?

Van gaals preferred method is a 4-3-3 which emphasizes possesion. 4-2-3-1 is also a variation of 4-3-3 IMO but due to injuries we couldnt play it consistently and deferred to 4-4-2 atimes.

e.g in Turin we went 4-4-2 with Gomez and olic in front. When you see any two of Gomez, Olic and Klose on the field thats 4-4-2 cos they are out and out strikers but when we use 1 of them its 4-3-3. Muller might play as a false striker

Most games we start 4-3-3 but when we need goals desperately we go 4-4-2.

i love nairaland for the fact that all these pathetic old posters have archives where one can lift out their old comments.
pick that out, you epileptic homoerotic patient.

dayokanu:
Andreas Schurrle at age 20: 20 goals 4 assist for Mainz

Mario Gotze at age 18: 6 goals 11assists
At age 19 (current season) 6 goals 8 assists

Toni kroos age 19

9 goals 9 assists

dayokanu, age means nothing.
i would expect an intellectual to know such but then your brain-cells have deteriorated.
each player has his own trajectory in the development. some players don't hit their peaks until late 20s whilst some peak at 18.

if we go by your idiotic rants, michael owen should be the best striker in the universe. at 18, he was scoring more goals than any kid in history.
by 26, he was finished as a striker. on the other hand, you have strikers who are rubbish in their mid-20s and are hitting great strides in their late 20s(eg. luca toni, di natale, etc).

dayo, coogar is your intellectual father!

Ibime:
Since when did Muller become a striker? Last time I checked, Bayern line up like this:

muller is a 2nd striker for bayern munich when they play 4-4-2.

Schweini       Kroos


Robben             Muller                     Ribery


                        Gomez

bayern play 4-4-2/4-2-3-1.
we are talking about their contribution in the last 3-4 seasons where muller played as a second striker plenty of times.

whilst Germany line up like this


           Schweini        Kroos


Muller               Ozil                Podolski


                      Gomez

irrelevant. . . . . .their national team line up is not a matter of discussion.

whilst Villa line up this:


                          Petrov         Midfielder


Albrighton                Young                Downing


                                Bent

what a disgrace from phat phool ibime!

ashley young spent 4 seasons at aston villa playing as a winger. . . .albrighton?
when did he start playing for aston villa to even merit a mention in this debate?

cheiiii, ibime - your intelligence quotient keeps diminishing.
i will be right back to calculate the half-life of your brain-cells.

And Manure line up with Young as left-winger.
In what way do their position on the pitch vary?
Sauron. . . . . . . . . . shut your gob!!! 

so you admit ashley young plays as a left winger for man utd?
and ashley young now playing in a top team like ozil, muller and nani has better statistics?

so why are we arguing?

2011/12.

muller: 2 goals, 4 assists, 15 appearances, 1281 mins
young: 2 goals, 5 assists, 10 appearances, 811 mins
nani:---3 goals, 4 assists, 14 appearances, 1062 mins
ozil:----0 goals, 5 assists, 14 appearances, XXXX mins.

obdurate w@nker, ibime. . . . .get your ipad and tell me the most effective player in this group.
answers on a postcard, please!

dayokanu:
Age 20
Ozil 4 goals 15 assists
Muller 19 goals 10 assist

we are comparing a striker to a winger now?
you will always be a disgrace to germany and bayern munich.

what statistics is 4 goals + 15 assists for ozil? in madrid or werder bremen?
be clear with your stats. . . . .you are dealing with an intellectual here.

Age 21
Ozil 9 goals 14 assist
Muller  18 goals 16 assists

these statistics are from where, mr oga?

Last season
Young 9 goals 14 assists
Ozil 8 goals 25 assists
Muller 18 goals 16 assist
So where do we start the comparison?

well, ozil moved to real madrid last season. . . . .young was still playing for villa.
the comparison is lop-sided as ozil has more quality strikers to finish off chances than bent, agbolahan and heskey.

so this season. . . .(with both players in 2 top teams).
ozil, 0 goals + 5 assists in 14 appearances
young, 2 goals + 5 assists in 10 appearances

muller doesn't count - he's a striker in a shittier league too.

dayokanu:
Mesut Ozil made 25 assists for Real Madrid last season I guess that was his country

playing for a top team where he copped a whooping 53 appearances.
it's not earth-moving. he spent more time on the pitch to cop those assists.

Muller had 18 goals and 16 assists for Bayern last season I guess his country is Germany

muller is a striker. i don't know when muller and ashley young play in the same position.
what about the other army of lunatics you listed? their statistics didn't come up on the computer?

2009/2010 season Muller has 19 goals and 10 assist I guess he was playing for Germany in those games

yet again, this is immaterial statistics.
only a raving lunatic would compare the statistics of a striker to an out n out winger like ashley young.
very soon, you would compare gomez's stats with nani.

The amount of shyt you spew on a daily basis can sink the titanic

this is what i should be saying about you.
you listed 8 different players and all you could scoop out was the stats of a striker and a player that made a move to a big club that scored 105 league goals last season. ashley young in real madrid with 53 apps would cop 40 assists.

Young is mediocre which is even a compliment for his lack of talent

far better than his german counterparts.

ashley young even has a better statistics than nani.
yet, you wouldn't say nani is mediocre or the zombies of germany are better than nani.

now, young's stats shyte on nani and young is mediocre and he lacks talent.
this kind of reasoning is akin to a man whose brains got sucked out by dyson vacuum cleaner and replaced with pap made from ogbomoso.

dayokanu, allow me to say this(no offence), you are a philandering phat phool!

MRbrownJAY:
lol, you are answering your own questions, PRICELESS! are you not the one who said that a father is irresponsible going to strip clubs because he will have a hangover in the morning?! so by your above answer, a father can certainly be RESPONSIBLE in the morning after spending a few hrs at the strip joint then.

except there are different types of hangover. you can be hung over on a sleepless night(alcohol or not). so a man closes at work. . . .then decides to go to a strip club only to return back home at 5 am(no alcohol). you are telling me this man won't be hung over to prepare his kid for school at 7am in the morning? you are a joker.

also i never said people DIDNT drink in strip clubs , i said PEOPLE MAIN FOCUS WHEN GOING THERE WAS NOT TO DRINK. . . . . . . let me school you on STRIP CLUBS economics. there are 2 types of strip club customers: A) the guy who wants to go and have a drink at the bar/pub  with his buddies, and who would therefore go and get these drinks at the strip clubs so that they can see nekkid women dancing in the surroundings. these customers mostly dont give the ladies any money, they just have fun drinking (like in any normal bar) while enjoying the view. these are NOT the typical customers because they only come once in a while since the drinks are overpriced, but the only reason they are ready to pay such atrocious prices is because of the nekkid ladies. and then there are B) the steady customer who goes to the strip club SOLELY to get close to beautiful nekkid women (because the woman they got at home is a whale). he buys ONE drink, to be able to sit close to the stage, and then spend the rest of the time looking, fantasizing, smelling and sometimes touching these sexy damsel. this type of customer will spend their whole money on table dance etc rather than DRINKS. some of these girls also make money on drink customers buy for them so they entice these guys to buy more drinks. . . . . . . not because the guys wants to but simply because the girls push for it.

it's a strip club. the combination of the two. a club where ladies strip. what do people do in the club? they drink and dance.
what do people do @ strip clubs. . . .they drink and ogle at unclothed women. i don't know where you get the impression drinks are over-priced at strip clubs. they charge the same amount they would charge in a normal nightclub where people come to dance.
so, men don't have problems drinking in strip-clubs to get stoned and play with nak[i]e[/i]d women.

yeah some do, others dont BUT, saying that a father who goes to a strip club at night is irresponsible because of the hangover he "may" have in the morning is FAR FETCHED!

it's not far-fetching. he has a duty to be responsible as a father.

whether you drop a coin or not, strippers WILL dance, they are entertainers, thats their jobs, thats the reason people go there at the first place! only when they are on stage, can they make money.

in my hood, no show until the men in the bar all contribute their token. mind, this is not the private dance for customers paying for a private show.
this one is for the stage! if the men don't pay enough - the women don't dance. they just prance about, luring men who are interested for private dances.

oh lawd, NL and assumptions again!!!!! lol!
bro, i have no reason to go to a strip club to have a good time but i sure have spent MUCH MORE TIME than you probably have in one, as i was WORKING in strip clubs, lol! bro, DONT GO THERE!!!!

i hate to get into a di[i]c[/i]k-waving contest.
it's tedious and polemic!

again, stop the assumptions. . . . . . i said  a father can go to a strip joint to look at beautiful women and enjoy the view, rather than going there to get drunk. what are you on about?!

even that is bordering on gross irresponsibility - knowing he must wake up to prepare his kid for school.
he would wake up that morning feeling too tired for lack of sleep, etc.

sadly, some women out there are really determined. calling a man irresponsible because he had trust in the person he was dating (or married to) is WRONG.

exactly my point.
it's one's responsibility to know who one is dealing with.

so let me get this straight: if 2face wants children but doesnt want to be married, cares/educates/clothes his children, he is IRRESPONSIBLE because he has babymommas?! now you are making LESS SENSE by the minute.
so for YOU, responsibility is to be married to someone before having kids?! anybody should decide what they WANT for their lives, why should anybody live their live like YOU do? how do you know, maybe Dbanj is shooting blanks (aka sterile)? stop these assumptions, PLS!!!!

this is not just how to argue. you are bringing out hypothetical statement that had nothing to do with my statement.
2face didn't want the children he has sired. they all happened "accidentally" and that is my point. he was irresponsible to the point of impregnating the women he didn't want to marry. stop making your own arguments here.

there are NO rules that says that being a father means you have to be married, NONE! yes it is better to have two caring and loving parent living together but if you cant then two caring loving parent living separately is equally great!

where did i say there's a rule? jeeeez - you don't get tired of making your own arguments.
i cited a particular case of an unwanted pregnancy forged by gross irresponsibility of a man. 2face did not plan for those babies.
that is as certain as the rising of the sun in the east.

you are making it sound like a man who doesnt believe in marriage shouldnt have kids. bwaaaah, what a joke!!!!
there are only ONE type of people that shouldnt be parents, and thats those who cant CARE/FEED and RAISE these children properly, for the next 18yrs!

yet again, you have miscued!
there's a universe of difference between an unwanted pregnancy case and a man who deliberately impregnates his girlfriend before marriage.
the former is 2face's - the latter is the strings of examples you keep bringing out.

dayokanu:
Appearance
2007/2008 Nani 26, Young 38
2008/2009 nani 24  Young 47
2009/2010 Nani 32 Young 48
2010/2011 Nani 42 Young 38

The only season Nani played a similar number of games to Young we can see what their stats looked like

this is why you fail in exams. i have asked you to show me the stats of ozil, goetze and kroos, you are busy spitting megedefegede about nani and young. this current season while playing in the same team, under the same manager. . . .

young: 2 goals, 5 assists, 13 key passes, 10 appearances, 811 league minutes
--nani: 3 goals, 4 assists, 23 key passes, 14 appearances, 1062 league minutes

mr dayokanu, are you sure you don't want to edit your nonsense post earlier?

i stand by my statement that ashley young puts the c in creativity even in a mid-table team(aston villa) where they are not expected to score as many goals as man utd, chelsea, man city, etc. if you still think ashley young is mediocre after you have failed to provide any substantial evidence that his german counterparts are better, then you are a tool!

germany midfielders my arse. the only time german players are good is when they play for the country.
at club level, they are all shyte bar one or two.

dayokanu:
What has Ashley Young done in his career that shows he is above average.

a 26yr old who has 18 caps for National team a mediocre NT like England for that matter.

Were Ashley Young German he would never play. When Ozil, Gotze, Muller, Reus, Kroos, Khedira, Marin Schurrle, Holtby are not only more talently, they are all younger than Ashley.

He cant even fit into the German Under 21.

Ashley Young fit into the class of Rooney and nani? What has he ever done in his life to get that? A player who was still in midtable Aston Villa up till 6 months ago, Not even Villas best player. and now in the same class as Rooney and nani?

The nonsense you spew atimes makes me wonder.

Lennon and Young quality wingers? Maybe since for England Barry is a quality player, Anyone can be quality for England no wonder they cant even play a major final in almost 50yrs

ashley young
07/08 - 8 goals/17 assists
08/09 - 8 goals/11 assists
09/10 - 9 goals/16 assists
10/11 - 9 goals/14 assists

luis nani
07/08 - 4 goals/11 assists
08/09 - 6 goals/2 assists
09/10 - 7 goals/9 assists
10/11 - 10 goals/20 assists

mr dayokanu, i want you to compile the statistics of ozil, goetze, muller and kroos - i will not even bother with the idiotic no-mark players you also included in the list. after listing the stats of the players i have asked you - if none of them measure up to ashley young statistically, then don't come back on this thread for the next one week. if you attempt it, then you have no scruples and obviously no decorum.

i am waiting. . . . .

musKeeto:
Lmao, so one needs an internet connection to transferr files,

yes, especially when the media receiving them are miles apart.
it means you can download a music file in lagos, and you would get a copy on your system in abuja.
if you think bluetooth technology can do that, then you are a consummate simpleton - you homoerotic nuisance!

debosky:
I don't think it was idiotic - Wenger rested RVP and Walcott against Olympiakos at home and Arsenal won, the players let Fergie down!

olympiakos are not basel, my friend!!!
una don start una nonsense comparisons be that.

My bad, but the point remains - why should Utd concede 3 goals against Basel of all teams? The extra two points from a good performance there are no different from getting an extra two against Benfica. The defence botched things!

debosky - qualifying in the champions league is a simple format. beat all your opponents at home then win/draw a game away from home and qualification is sorted. united drew their first game, drew their 2nd game. . . .they then beat otelul home and away. that was 8 points from 4 games.

the fact that fergie had struggled against basel earlier in the competition at old trafford should have inspired him to play his strongest team against benfica at old trafford. predictably, fergie did not even start rooney and hernandez @ old trafford. this was a manager that had to rely on ashley young(substitute) to score the equaliser in the 92nd minute to beat basel on matchday 2 of the competition.

united's game was on a tuesday and we were playing a league game on saturday(not mancity, not arsenal, not chelsea, not liverpool) but against newfuckingcastle. in other words, fergie rested his strikers for newcastle at the expense of winning against benfica.

does that make sense to you?

I disagree! Going into the last game needing only a draw is not too much to ask from a Utd team with Rooney, Nani and co on the pitch!

but midfielders have to craft those chances for nani, rooney and co on the pitch.
you underestimate a good midfield, that is your problem. the team still had enough midfielders to spare on matchday 5 at old trafford and had fergie taken that game serious, he wouldn't have needed to go to switzerland on the last day to secure qualification.

how do you expect the team to do well(away from home), i repeat(away from home) in the coldest country in europe with a midfield of js park, giggs and phil jones. which of these players is a natural midfielder? basel knew all they had to do was make life difficult for united and score. playing at home, it wasn't much of a big task as arsene wenger found out against olympiakos in the last group game.

debosky:
Dunno why people are making these knee jerk reactions about Ashley. . . .the entire Utd frontline from Rooney to Nani to Hernandez to Valencia are misfiring at the moment, so why expect Ashley to be superlative especially considering he is still adjusting to the Utd side? His early blistering start created an undue sense of expectation in the minds of some cats here.

he is not doing badly at all. rooney is the worst player in that attack.
i dunno what's going on in his mind. maybe he wants to join his dad in prison or something. there was this beautiful cross nani pinged to rooney against basel. rooney missed from 4 yards. it's the worst miss in the competition this season. much much more worse than the torres miss against united.

I disagreed because Rooney wasn't rested, he was recovering from a niggle. The proof of the pudding came on matchday 6 when, despite playing a weaker side than Benfica, Rooney failed to find the net. Given Rooney's failure to find the target in recent games, playing him on matchday 5 would not have made a difference, except getting him crocked to join the ever growing injury list.

it would have made a difference because united had a stronger midfield personnel on matchday 5. united were also at home on matchday 5.
rooney had no niggle. fergie just rested him for his own pathetic reason. let's even assume rooney had herpes he was curing. what about hernandez? why wait till the 85th minute to play hernandez when it was obvious the front line were not up to the task.

idiotic rotational policy killed fergie this season - it will serve him a lesson in future.
messi played full 90 mins in 5 games. it's not like barcelona don't have domestic games to play as well. why do english clubs rest players in the champions league. i can understand resting them after qualification has been sorted. fergie did the opposite.

In my view, the atrocious un-united defending was the primary undoing. Conceding 5 goals home and away to Basel of all teams? Very ridiculous. If Utd cannot win a home game after scoring 3 goals then the defence is clearly to blame. Now whether this is due to poor personnel or a consequence of the injuries is another matter altogether.

the defence has nothing to do with this, debosky. the 3-3 game against basel at old trafford was matchday 2. there was plenty of time to recover from that disappointing display. listen to me carefully now. after matchday 4, united topped the group. there were 6 points to play for then.
one game at old trafford against benfica. . . .the other game @ switzerland against basel.

had fergie played his strongest possible team against benfica. . . . united would have qualified even before the basel game.
fergie gambled with that game resting rooney and hernandez. united could only draw thus leaving it till the last day away from home. by then, the injury list had piled up to the point that there was no natural midfielder in the starting xi of man utd.

matchday 5 ruined fergie, not matchday 6.

dayokanu:
When was the last time Ashley had a decent game? This guy isnt even a guaranteed shirt holder for a mediocre Engerland

he is just recovering from an ankle injury. his form is shoddy.

Ashley young would never play for Bayern, Barca, Real nor even be a reserve for Germany

and metresacker/badstuber play for germany.
sometimes your mouth has the same wall dimension as a cesspit.

Rooney, Nani have the talent and the class even if they are not in form

ashley young easily fits into their class. his blistering form at the start of the season has been hindered by injury.
same can be said of rooney, valencia, nani, etc.

Young is just the typical talentless England player like Downing, Lennon, Agbonlahor, etc who can never make it at the top level best he would be is a squad player

he doesn't even need to be at the top level of ronaldo, messi, etc to perform for man utd.
valencia isn't half as talented as young when he became the best right winger in the league.

all your megedefegede is pissing in the wind.
aaron lennon and ashley young are quality wingers. top quality wingers.

musKeeto:
Major . So what about other Apple products? Incomprehensible . Always switching legs like a schoolgirl playing oga,

what about other apple products doing what?

even after 4 weeks of me schooling you, you are still as confused as a bat.
if i am thinking what you are thinking. . . .i.e. transferring files between different apple products, then you are a stark illiterate cos iCloud has pretty much solved that problem.

dayokanu:
The signing of Asheley Young was an error.

Even while in Villa he wasnt their standout performer and you expect great things from him in a team like Man Utd

how can signing ashley young be an error when he's one of the top performers this season.
dayokanu, you chat rubbish sometimes. i am sure you think the signing of rooney was an error too.

MRbrownJAY:
come on bro, again you are making some rather cheap assumptions. are you now saying that all men who enjoy strip clubs can only do so under the influence?!

not all men. you can drink without necessarily be under the influence of alcohol. don't then say people don't drink @ strip clubs.

ahahahahahaa you are indeed special!!!! many of these men are very smart individuals and know that since they are "possibly" throwing money at this gals, the last thing they wanna do is be drunk. . . . . .

just like i said, they don't have to be stone-drunk but they do drink.

come on bro, educate yourself on the issue rather than saying things that makes no sense. yes people CAN drink in strip clubs, NO it is not a requirement to have fun there!
some men will drink, other wont, its all down to THEM. thinking that all men who go to strip clubs MUST drink alcohol is definitely wrong!
the last place anyone should go to get a drink is STRIP CLUBS where drink are overpriced!!!

what isn't overpriced in a strip club? you would even get taxed without having a private lap dance.
a general pole dance on the stage for every eye in the club is initiated by the coin-drop in the cans the stripper would walk round n collect. it's after this collection she gets on the stage and dance. so whether you like it or not, you must pay, drink and be overpriced.

i have been to strip clubs, you haven't. how then do you know what goes down there?
listen to a man who's been there severally and a man who has first hand information of what goes down in strip clubs.
there's plenty of alcohol, pills of different forms and even substances(cocaine, heroin, amphetamines, etc).
strip clubs are not for the lily-livered. some strip clubs even do private shows where men have s[i]e[/i]x in private rooms.

so any married man telling you he goes to strip clubs for socializing is probably a liar.

again bro, let go of that ego of yours that would have you dread the visit of the ex. it's not like the guy is still banging her, is it? open your mind! the important point here is satisfaction and so long as you are satisfied with your choices then fair enough. . . . . . . . just dont be quick to spit on other people's choices. a man's trash is another man's treasure!

i just don't like it. can we not agree to disagree?
it's got nothing to do with ego, maturity or blah blah blah. i cannot date a single mother(even if she's got the character of mother theresa).
go past this and move on, bro!

bro, you dispose of the condom the best you can. i am NO James Bond!!!! are you now saying that any man who doesnt dispose of the condom properly is irresponsible?! you throw it in the dustbin (or flush it) and THATS THAT! should WE now be irresponsible because "some" women go and dig into trash to inseminate themselves?! (or the condom didnt flush properly and she used it?!). make some sense man!

i am sure they open sceptic tanks too to fish out the flushed condoms so they can inseminate themselves.
it's irresponsibility. any man caught out that way would regret thinking "i should have been more careful with my seeds".

btw there are many ways that a lady can get your Fluid without your knowledge, unless you sleep with an iron pant, secured with a padlock at night! lol!

just like there are many ways a man can prevent unwelcome pregnancy.

--be responsible in and out of bed.
--dispose the condom and keep it out of reach
--if possible, let her take morning after pills in your presence.
-- etc, etc.

d'banj has probably slept with more women than 2face can ever be. yet, 2face is a father of 5 whilst d'banj is still squeaky clean with no babymomma drama.

mrbrownjay, it's called responsibility! taking charge of situations and never letting one's guards down.

pro01:
[b]You make it seem like ordinary phone users like me are bothered about whatt makes business sense to Apple, or about its rather needless interest in copyright protection. [/b]As for me, I've mostly used Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones (Symbian and Android respectively) over the last 6 years or so. Currently, I'm using a Nokia E7. I'm used to being able to send and receive any kind of file to and from any friend or acquaintance if necessary. Not to mention being able to choose any sound I like as my ringtone. Yeah, transferring say a Tuface song from my phone to another might qualify as a 'copyright' or 'piracy' issue, but then that is a discussion for another day. Theres also the ability to download thousands of third party apps without having to go through Noika's Ovi store. The flexibility and freedom that Symbian and Android permit is hugely important to some of us. Apple's iphone might have a great os and terrific hardware, but the ridiculous restrictions are unbearable for tsome of us.

this is because the itunes store sells authentic albums of musicians in soft-copies. they pay various rights to music companies to sell these albums, songs, videos, movies, etc. if they don't apply restrictions - people would just copy songs from each other and 2face would become broke all of a sudden. however, we don't want that.

as for the apps, there's an app store of apple that pretty much takes care of whatever app you might fancy. their product - their rules.
that some of us are looking for cheap means to acquire files does not make apple silly. if you want to send/receive any ringtone to/from a friend, buy the particular file on itunes store and gift it to him.

MRbrownJAY:
have you ever been to a bar and simply drank OJ or a Coke? are you saying that a man who goes to a strip club MUST drink alcohol because thats what most people drink there? come on bro!

yes - he must drink alcohol to get into the vibe of what they do there.
no sane man would have his face painted with the arse of some scallywag whores. you have to be under the influence to act in such a manner.

NEKKID WOMEN is the reason why men go to strip clubs, nothing else!

and alcohol. you cannot really separate the two.

if you CAN settle for less (in extreme circumstances) then you above quote is just "for show". we all want to be #1 but if we get everything we desire while #2 then it's all good!

there's no extreme circumstances in choosing a bride. do you want to know the number of single chics with no sexual history roaming the planet?
why then would i settle for a woman with an extra baggage and an ex that won't just go away because of his child?

and should men be viewed as "irresponsible" because they have had a kid in such manner?! hell, some women do such act after MANY YRS of dating, to force a man to marry them. if trusting someone you love is now a crime then let me plead GUILTY!!!!

such men are irresponsible. a man wears the condom.
after using the condom, the responsibility to dispose it should lie with the man, not with the woman. are you responsible for disposing the sanitary towels of your partners, hell no!!! why then do men leave the disposal of their used condoms to their female partners. it's gross irresponsibility no matter how you want to look at it.

felix4real:
If you argue that Galaxy S2 is faster than an Iphone 4 i might be obliged to agree with you, but in terms of overall performance, considering other factors such as VGA quality (far higher than that of all current android devices in the market including the Galaxy S2. you can confirm by comparing both phone specs online) apps integration and performance including games and productivity apps and network integration (Wifi and 3G), an iphone is first among equals. I am not even going to mention the Iphone 4S because its A5 Processor ranks as the fastest single core chipset powering a mobile phone extant today. Please note that i am neither an Apple device dealer neither am i a fanatic. I am just trying to make an objective argument based on my usage of smartphones.

I have used various smartphones on the planet across various brands including Nokia, Blackberryy, Sony-Ericcson, LG and Samsung (I own an LG Optimus 3D and i can boastfully say i am among the first Nigerians to use the Nokia 7650 in 2002. i got it only 4 days after it was launched; a phone which revolutionised smartphone development in today's tech world) but i tell you since i got my iphone, i have not played my PS3 as the quality of the games on my phone keeps me glued to it even when i'm at work. It has also become my portable movie theatre as the audio and video experience is great. The Galaxy S2 is also a fantastic phone but in all-round performance, i thoink the Iphone 4 edges it out.

you don't need to preach to that charlatan called muskeeto. i sorted him out here weeks ago(https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-774977.224.html#msg9630968)

i have schooled him enough on the mediocre galaxy s2 but he just loves typing cos of the colour of his prints.
how can anyone compare iphone 4s to galaxy s2?

siri's integration alone is a milestone. . . . . .it won't be replicated by any phone manufacturer for the next 6 yrs(at least).
in terms of performance, iphone 4s is the best handheld device on the planet.

stillwater:
Spartacus.
I don't take Gannicus seriously as a fighter. Maybe his character was downplayed a little bit for a hero, because I didn't just feel him. I think enigmatic is the word I'm looking for. Gannicus wasn't that at all.

it must be because you hate womanisers. how can you not see gannicus' heroic displays? he won the final battle for the house of batiatus even after his group was outnumbered by solonius' men. every single time he was called into action, he did not disappoint the house of batiatus. the story just didn't focus on his personal struggles - like where he came from, how he ended being a slave, etc like spartacus. however, on the issue of drawing swords, he was magnificent. the fatality move to rip out the jaw of his opponent in that arena was

pro01:
That's exactly why I'm never gonna buy an iphone. After all the hype, I was disappointed when I had the opportunity to play with a friend's iphone 4, only to learn about the many restrictions. Sotay, even to transfer files through bluetooth to another manufacturer's device is a problem. What nonsense. How come one can't do anything without going through their useless i-store, itunes or any other i-nonsense they have. Not for me. I hate restrictions.

that is a copyright issue?
if everyone has to copy files from one phone to theirs, won't it defeat the purpose of setting up a store?
i don't see how this is an issue? the restrictions are welcome - why must you transfer music files from one device to another device(not designed by apple)? think about it - it does not make economic sense to apple.

apple have their many flaws but the restrictions is not one of them.

debosky:
According to coogar this current squad is also in transition no?

very much so. . . . .the team is in transition.
losing neville, scholes, van der sar, giggs(off/on) would always take the toll out of the squad. they have all been replaced with de gea, smalling, jones, cleverley, anderson, nani, young, chicharito, etc.

Regardless of transition though, I do agree that Utd shouldn't be exiting from the group stage, especially with such an easy group. I don't agree with reaching the minimum of reaching QFs every season - look at Real's elimination at the round of 16 every season for a while now. The minimum should be getting to the first knock out phase.

and i agree with you here. . . .

united did not make the round of 16 not because they are not good enough. they didn't make it because of fergie's disrespect of his group rivals. nani did not start until the 3rd group game. fergie kept choosing unfit/reserve players for the group games and they kept pissing good points away. rooney only completed 360 mins of the 540 mins. messi completed 450 mins. if the best player in the world is playing 5 full games in the group, why can't wayne rooney?

after matchday 4, united were on top of the group with 6 points yet to play for. on matchday 5, united met benfica at old trafford.
what was fergie's plan? rest rooney and hernandez in a must-win game. if we had won that game, the game against basel would have been a dead rubber game. rooney didn't even make the travelling team and hernandez didn't come on until the 85th minute.

the blame should lie @ fergie's doorstep. gambling with the selection. de gea must have played with 12 different right backs this season.
a young foreign goalkeeper has not been allowed to form any sort of understanding with his new team-mates. it's been shopping/changing all the time. it's not like the barcelonas/real madrids of this world don't have reserves too - how often would you see guardiola making 10 changes in europe?

i am happy fergie got served very well. we had this discussion on matchday 5 when you were defending fergie's action of resting rooney. i told you it's gross irresponsibility for fergie to be resting rooney in europe because we were playing newcastle of all sides. as it is, we drew newcastle and we could only gain 1 point out of the last available 6 points in the group. by the time we got to the last group game, the injury had piled up to the point that there was no single natural central midfielder in switzerland: giggs, jones, js park( you won't win many games with those in the midfield).

sexkillz:
[color=#000070]Haha! What's there to touch for BABE! body kwanu? She keeps trying to prove she's a smart arse. . . That's perambulating bullshit! I and bullshit are not on talking terms!
How does the guy receiving the slap has anything to do with abiding by her st[i]u[/i]pid manual? Is the guy on NL? She could get away with such nonsensical behavior to other guys o, but to me? She go chop stone first!. . .
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if her comments irk you that much, ignore them.
last time i checked, she wasn't talking to you or directing her missives to your person.
you are starting to act like you are obsessed with her -

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MRbrownJAY:
oooooooooookay. i hope you wont realize you are/were wrong, when some gal and a baby come knocking at your door.

hahaha. as if pregnancy is an airborne disease.

i thought people went to strip clubs to see nekkid women. what has drinking got to do with anything here?
btw: you would only get a hangover if you drink like a sailor! one drink has never hurt anyone. ask me any French parent!

strip clubs are night clubs where women strip.
alcohol is sold more than non-alcoholic. i have been there several times - i know what goes down there.

i meant the "real" world! lol
as much as i have been living in Brasil for the last 12months, i was born and raised in France and therefore i am safe to say that "real" people dont act this way in Europe  either. . . . . . . . especially when 15yr old having babies is a common practice today. . . . . . .  but again, i see nothing wrong in the choices you make in life, just dont be too quick to look down on others who make different choices.

probably the reason why family values are shyte in europe.

fair enough brotha, just dont spit on the ones who do because it sure would make you look immature.

spit? i just shake my head and wonder why humans make things difficult for themselves.

lol again, we are getting somewhere. . . . . ,   so what we can clearly understand is that you dont have a problem with the  child, it's the fact that this woman willingly had a kid with someone else, that bothers you. lol!
take heart brotha, it's not THAT bad. being second best is better than being last!

i always win!
2nd is not an option for me when i can come first.

btw: shouldnt you MAKE SURE that a guy had the child willingly before ASSUMING that he did? or havent you heard about the Zimbabwean women who were ra.ping guys?! or women going into trash to inseminate themselves with the se.men in used condoms?! lol

i dispose my used condoms myself. i leave nothing to chance.
of course, i have heard of women going into trash to inseminate but then - the men got careless.

sexkillz:
[color=#000070]. . .And what does your silly trumped up shitty manual say? "Thank God i yam a Finnish toothpick?" "How to be anorexic on NL 101?"

Yeah, right! [/color]

sexkillz, i will implore you to desist from picking on my cousin(babe!) unnecessarily.
if you need to use someone as a punch-bag. . . . .find other lasses.


touch not my anointed.

stpat1:
Coogar must be very silly to tell you to stay on. If u were his sister would he tell u that? My dear I must tell you the truth. if he didn't respect u in the first place to have hurt you so bad and which I know is not once then my dear that respect cannot come automatically. he got u from the way he got others and so it will surely be that way. we u see to love him but the truth is that u better let it go now and heal your pains later that to keep getting hurt. Well my advice is just put him to test and u'll discover how woefully he'll fail.

you are a consummate simpleton!

alleno:
You are so so missing the point. Say i even buy a song from apple now, how do i sync it to my iphone ehn!
Taking the iphone even back to the 13inches i initially used, which has now being installed with their latest
LION OS, it tells me to WIPE!

buy directly from the phone, home boy!

In all the creative sense in protecting their "artist" and "product". Did it ever cross their minds that people
change laptops or that laptops "miss".

GOSH ME!

this is why the message pops up after downloading in their store to back up.
you should back up your purchases - on a hard-drive.

if you know how many music files/video files i have lost, you would weep for me.

alleno:
Got my apps from various source including app store, genuine softwares and some i had bought before.
Synced on my 13" MacbookPro, now on 17" and i cannot just copy my songs. I have over 32gig of apps.

Even if i convince myself to wipe the phone, where will i get internet to download 32gig of apps again ehn!
See my predicament now?

various source is not from itunes. that's the problem.
apple owns itunes and apple owns the iphone - so anything you get from itunes would be allowed on your iphone.

but those other sources are just phhhhhhhhhhhbt!
apple have to do this to protect the artistes making the music and developers making the apps. otherwise, what stops all the iphone users in your state from copying from you.

if they copy from you, how would apple make their money? copyright and stuffs?