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MaxInDHouse:
The problem with most people is the way they wish to keep sacred matters, they just want it to taken lightly with no restraint but when they discover that some are devoted exclusively to sacred services they try to figure out if it's due to selfish gain just as Satan accused Job {Job 1:9} to them there's no normal human that should take God seriously.
So when they notice those truly devoted without selfish reasons they begin looking for ways to discredit your Godly devotion trying to make you feel it's unnecessary.
So asking them about their own religion is like putting them on the hot seat, how do you expect them to respond to such a question when all what they're trying to tell you is the exact opposite of what you're doing?

Since the fuel issue business has been really tough o, almost all our gain is used to by fuel now just imagine diesel is sold now at 750 per liter!
The modern day slavery is becoming intensely hot nowadays.

Everything will turn out ok sir.

We use diesel at my work place. We now but black market.

AntiChristian:
Why do I need to check it out?

You claim your God instituted old covenant but later change it to new as the old was brutal and senseless.

Who follows such type of God that changes covenant?

Well Mohammed lied that it's that same God that send him.

The old covenant for the Israelites God's chosen people and the New covenant brought by Jesus extended salvation for all people and race.
Peace.

[quote author=tctrills post=111782076][/quote]You religion is your personal info?

Facebook has space where you put your religion. Religion is not something secret or personal info.

achorladey:
That's why when you read learn to reason and process on what you read well before responding.



I didn't seek your knowledge about the Christian history.



I am not talking about political leaders taking over the church




Political leaders don dey persecute people who worship God or gods since time immemorial before Christians exist or enter the scheme of things.

What you should wrap your reasoning and thinking around is the below

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

You see where the problem comes from?



You are chasing shadows, go and read your history well well. Even before the death of the apostles many warned against some set of people within their midst. The religious organization you belong didn't get up to 50 years of it existence when upheavel and politics played within it brought up many splinter groups. Some of this came up immediately after the death of Russell and before his death crisis exists even publications of books like.

1. The finished mystery

2. Millions now living will never die.

Those books above are what within the organisation you belong? These books are crisis book. Na person wey sabi go know.


When the organization started they say they are the WHEATS separated from the WEEDS. Reality tells me the WHEATS have corrupted to become WEEDS.

No dey blame politicians for the rotteness that happens WITHIN. Na the imperfect spiritual food dey cause DECAY. Learn. Na apostate your religious leaders talk sey dey give poisons. You don't want to look into that imperfect spiritual food dey give you and pick the poisons laced inside.

Go lock up somewhere Baba.

My point still stand.


Learn to face discussion.
What JWs are doing today, no groups can do them.

tctrills:

You have not for one day come out to say that what I post isn't found in the bible. I have never posted anything outside the bible but you are uncomfortable. Why

It's not that. Its about your personal beliefs.

Fisiryorh:
Alaye, keep on asking urself dumb questions okay...

Bye..

Are a Sunni Muslim or a Shia, Ahmadiyya, bahaullah Muslim? Which Islam do you practise?

MaxInDHouse:
There are hundreds of thousands of posts and topics on Nairaland but you will notice some monikers are always after JWs asking questions but never ready to answer yours as they're demanding you answer them directly as if you're facing a panel of inquisitors.
Imagine the simplest question any Nigeria will gladly answer:

"which church you dey go?"

Has become a no go area yet they're seriously asking questions about Jehovah's Witnesses!

When they don't have church nko or don't believe in God pàápàá.

How's work going sir?

Were you converted by compulsion cos this one wey you dry hostile.

You better cry for help if you need help?

Fisiryorh:
Grow a brain and mind ya business..

No reason at all?

Fisiryorh:
Get a functional brain in ya head and mind ya business..

So you just converted without tangible reason?

tctrills:
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Oh like I'm asking for your BVN of home address abi?

I respect everyone on personal level.
When it gets to God's matter, people need to see the TRUTH.
Are you interested in the TRUTH or you think universal salvation will really happen?

[quote author=tctrills post=111777748][/quote]Comot here jàre.

That means neither kingdom of heaven or Paradise earth is sure for you.

Only Jehovah knows that.

Anyways, I Know your abode is the same with JWs father the Devil which is lake of fire.

Sorry lake of fire is symbolic not a literal place.

So Jesus is lying in Matt 5 that those poor in spirit and persecuted for righteousness will inherit the kingdom of heaven

Learn under people wey know, ona no gree.
Okay go learn on your own, ona no understand. Oga gan o.

Weren't the disciples of Jesus persecuted?
Are they not peacemakers?
Were their heart not pure?
Were they not poor in spirit (but they were strengthen with the holy spirit)?
Were they not meek among them?

Keep changing mouth

That's what it seems to in your post.

It's now "SOME" when Jesus says "THOSE"

Are you telling me that just anyone that is a peacemaker or poor in spirit or persecuted for righteousness sake will inherit the kingdom even if he's a Muslim or from any other religion?
Learn baba.

All these just because you have donated your brain to those 8 Old lying men.

You go see reason for you too to donate your brain.

That means the person will inherit both kingdom of heaven and earth double inheritance

Clap for yourself. You go still learn.

Yes He knows and already told us that THOSE who are pure in heart will see Him in other words inherit the kingdom of heaven and THOSE who are MEEK will inherit earth

What do you understand by inherit the earth?

Jesus didn't say they will see him o. He said they will see God.

I love this, that means Bible contradicts itself or you're the one who gave wrong interpretation

What's was the conclusion I gave you when you were saying your own?

You remember when I said "what is your point gangan?".

I said you were only proving that the Bible is a contradiction.
[quote author=Emusan post=111727312][/quote]I will give you a brief conclusion on that chapter later.

And Fisiryorh, which of the Islam sect did you convert to, Sunni, Shia, Ahmadiyya, bahaullah?

garriAndsugar:
.. hunger is a respecter of no one

Abeg give am some sugar and garri lol

Fisiryorh:
Alaye, just mind your business..

Why you come post am for public group?
Why e be say na this fast time wey dem go dè distribute food and give zakat you come convert to Islam?

MaxInDHouse:
When they're questioning you based on your faith and there are thousands of different religious contradicting themselves then why are they hiding their own religion?

I don tire o.
Na Emusan I dé wait for make e come prove that Satan is now studying the Bible plus watchtower articles. My stomach dé pain me.
Na laughter cause am.

tctrills:
cornelboy was a fair kid to discuss with but you see the drastic transformation. He use to be one of their best and brightest on the forum but now, he claims he would not discuss with me because he doesn't know my church. Imagine a society where we only speak with those we know their church?

Wow fair kid. You know my age?

I'm not even officially a JW yet. Still a student.

You no suppose carry this small matter for head like this big pot belly daddy.

tctrills:
I am not talking about that, I am talking about creating this post in the first place and your insistence that you must know my church. It's all bigotry. You would judge others by their organizations and sediment people according to beliefs. It is dangerous and it causes many of the world's issues. It's one thing to argue doctrine, it's another to practice Christlike religion and to be a light to the world. We would be judged by our character more than our doctrine.

Pls is it bad to ask you where you stand on Bible matters?

achorladey:
Na assumptions you still dey tackle. Didn’t Paul talk about false prophets, false teachers Peter talked about ridiculers e.t.c. The problem is not the Catholic. The apostles didn't handle the commission given to them to the Roman Catholic. Learn. Humans will always devise so many crooked ways even when the God of heaven made it straight.

Rutherford said RELIGION is a snare and a racket. He was talking about established and organization minded religious organization.

Russell said religious organization like the Catholic is not necessary. His successor set up one and his disciples are still doing the same thing you accuse THE Roman Catholics.

Bringing it home, why do people leave the religious organization you belong or intend to belong. It is still the same thing using your own words






Your religious organisation dey the same committee.

Learn.

I know the Christian history. Political leaders took over the church and use it to serve their own purpose.
They persecuted true Christians and some of the apostles.

My point still remains that if politics hadn't enter the church, if the early church pure doctrine and worship were kept till today, and the church is doing God's wills and completely following Jesus's teachings, JWs won't be here today.
Peace bro.

tctrills:
I am not talking about that, I am talking about creating this post in the first place and your insistence that you must know my church. It's all bigotry. You would judge others by their organizations and sediment people according to beliefs. It is dangerous and it causes many of the world's issues. It's one thing to argue doctrine, it's another to practice Christlike religion and to be a light to the world. We would be judged by our character more than our doctrine.

Me personally I want to know your religion. It's not a sin or a crime to ask you that. If you won't tell me no wahala. I won't ask again.

tctrills:
You are slowly going down the pit of bigotry. You come here to fight others. Really, what is your point? Why do you do this? You guys would not seem to amaze me

How is taking something serious same as fighting?

tctrills:
If you can quote me doing that, I would immediately apologize. You have become very dishonest but I guess you don't care as long as you are doing your thing

Have you forgot that we went 2 or 3 night replying ourselves without sleeping?

Wake up Baba.
I don't need your apology.
I shouldn't even take you serious cos you said you take all these as fun.

tctrills:
I don't see you as a religious bigot, stop proving me wrong.

I don't really care about what you see or feel.
I'm very serious when it comes to religion.
So what's your religion?

tctrills:
I never defended any religion, I talk about gospel principles. You are free to quote me where did I defend trinity? You have become very dishonest. Go through my entire posts and quote me defending trinity if you are not a liar.

But you defended the Jesus is same as the Father dogma (unitary), you also said God is a "state" not a being.
Bro you've said alot about things. Make I just lock up.

tctrills:
You don't need to say it, we both know your reasons. I think you are a nice guy but you take life a bit too seriously.

Will just telling me your religion make life hard for you?
By the way that's why I said I'll stop responding to your post concerning the Bible.
It's only fair if I knew your stand on religion.

tctrills:
I ask you questions, you continue to rigmarole and now you start to insult. You keep believing what you can't explain. You would never be able to reconcile John 1.1 unless you open your heart and become teachable.

That's right you don't defend religion and god but you defend the trinity, what is that?

achorladey:
Na so their mode of operation be. All are channeled towards raising their religious organization above others.

What they accuse of others is what they actual do in reality. When caught, they denial, lie and later down the line ADMIT that they lied .


Reality says their religious organization foundation is built upon downgrading and denigrating the Catholics. Yet some said whatever the Catholic was over numerous decades and centuries is what they eventually become within the first 5 decades of their existence.

If the Roman Catholics didn't spoil pure worship and bring paganism into the early church. If they are doing God will today, following the teachings of Christ and the Bible, JW no go de here today.
Bo se je niyen bobo

achorladey:
Here is his response again.......





And you go about nairaland creating threads about theory and philosophy of uninspired set of foolish old dead men. You are indeed really smart, you know.

I know your religious leaders of the organization you belong equally share some attributes with these people as it were. That uninspired they make me looooool!




I gave you a reminder on how to learn here previously. Helplessness is seen seeking for response that had already been given of which you keep asking. . Your own smartness is seen in

1. I am a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

2. I am yet to become a baptized Jehovah’s witness


That's the definition of your smartness. You follow

Call your comrade make e come answer those questions. I de wait.

That's your own palaver, the Koko is that you believe in Bible just the way Satan did. So to believe in Bible doesn't mean you have the truth

Make e come tell us when Satan start reading and believing in the Bible.
And how im belief take be my belief, is Satan now reading watchtower articles? É wan repent and live forever Abi?

He should also tell us whether Satan knows the TRUTHs in the Bible or not.

I think Emusan knows Satan's house.

I can't suppress my laughter but I no go laugh here on Naira land. Make I de smile and grin steady for my side.

Emusan:
You people are very funny

So Jesus was lying to the man that, the man will be with him in Paradise when Jesus Himself won't be in the same Paradise but heaven

So Jesus was giving the man false hope and also lying that he would be with him in paradise (which according to you is heaven) that same day but actually both of them ended in hell/grave.

Pls is the grave same as paradise?

After Jesus's resurrection he lived here on earth for another forty days.
Today wey Jesus promised the thief still never end?
Or is earth now heaven?

You see your interpretation and reasoning is very incoherent.

Even if Jesus went to heaven that same day he died, there's no way the thief could be with him.

Reasons:
1. He was not born again i.e baptized by the spirit or born of the spirit.
2. The holy spirit came more than 43 days after Jesus's death.

In conclusion Jesus was talking about the future earth paradise

OLAADEGBU:
Try reading the text below without your tinted spectacles.

Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of Him. (2 Corinthians 5:6–9).

Sorry who were the "we" I'm that verse?

oteneaaron:
But on many occasions you have insulted people and called them names on this forum without any warrant.

This should be a lesson to you.

Don't do to other people what you wouldn't want another person to do to you.

Cheers!

Educator