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Janosky:
OLAADEGBU 3 deities were dead for 3 days & were crying to themselves "my God my God why have you forsaken us"

tctrills:
I think I really like you and your honesty with yourself. Don't worry, there are millions out there who are not like me, you would love them. One love my brother

OLAADEGBU:
Yes, the Holy Trinity was in action when Jesus Christ was resurrected. The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit, but that is too big for your closed minds.

Backslider:
Sun, 15 Apr 2001



Rayan
I have read the reason why you left Islam and other articles and I can easily conlude that your are very ignorant in Islamic Law or Jurisprudence.

About Ahadiths (Sunnah):
Their are alot of false and weak ahadith and according to Shariah Law, the authentic can only be legitimate, such as Sahih Bukhari.

Sina
All the hadiths that I quoted are from Bukhari and Muslim and I gave the references. If you failed to even check that how objective can you be in judging the rest of my articles?



Rayan
“Not all Islamic rulings can be implemented at any given time and place. For example, the law of the cutting of the hands and feet due to theft, can not be implemented on society, until society has reached close to spiritual perfection (which is not the case today), and the reastablishment of the Islamic leadership (The Khilafah or Caliphate, which was destroyed in 1924).”

Sina
Can you prove this by quoting from Quran or is it something that you made up? Who gave you the authority to pass such ruling? The problem with Islam is that in the course of it 1400 years of history any idiot has tried to re-interpret the Sharia and propose ideas that are not found in Quran. That is why Muslims are divided in so many sects. Your opinion is worthless unless you can back it up by Quran, which you can’t.



Rayan
Their are many examples like the one just mentioned. In Shariah, their is an order and way in how to implement specicifc rulings in society. Since the Islamic Nation (Ummah) has lost the leadership (the Khilafah), we are not in the position to implement certain rules, whether foreign (towards non-Muslims, such as the Jizyah Law or Protection Fee) or domestic (towards Muslims, such as the penalty of adultry or theft).

Sina
Whether you can or cannot implement the Islamic laws is irrelevant. The point is that these laws are barbaric in any time. Islamic laws are primitive and backward and wherever they are practiced that place has become a hell on earth. Examples: Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, etc. The more a country is Islamic the higher is its index of human right abuse and barbarity.



Rayan
"The Qur'an:
According to a neutral perspective, it is a very well known fact by non-Muslims and Muslims that the Arabic Qur'an (not the English Transalation of the Meaning of Qur'an), is indeed 'extra-terriestial', that is, it is impossible for it to be of human source. So we can conclude that the Qur'an was Divinely reaveled to humanity.

Sina
You can fool yourself as much as you wish. I read Quran in Arabic and found it tremendously poor and bereft of any beauty. It is an extremely disorganized book and has plenty of grammatical, historical, scientific and logical errors. The English translators have tried hard to hide the brutal and savage language of the Quran. For example when Muhammad says beat your wives if they are disobedient, some translators like Yusufali have added the adjective “lightly”. This lightly does not exist in the original Arabic. There are many cases like this. If you knew Arabic and could read that book in the original language you would not have defended it so blindly. Who said that piece of garage is “extra terrestrial?” This is the stupidest lie that Muslims keep telling themselves for over a thousand years. I checked it out for myself and found that it is a lie.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

[b]AS USUAL, EVERYONE IGNORES THE ONE PERSON WHO HAS ALL THE CORRECT ANSWERS!/b]

Fisiryorh:
Been a Christian since I was born but decided to revert to Islam today..

I went to the mosque today for my conversation & the type of love shown from my new found brothers was amazing. I have never felt peace(of the mind tho) like this.

Islam truly brings peace to the mind, body and soul...(I really feel at rest in it's teachings I heard today)..

Peace and blessings to all my new found brothers and sisters in the faith of Islam...

tctrills:
I am not upset bro, I just choose not to answer. I never defend religion. God does not need men to fight for him. Again, I asked you, how many people on nairaland have you asked their religion?

tctrills:
You started this thread with the sole purpose of discrediting Catholics. I am not sure many Catholics care so much because no matter what you or I do, they would continue to be the biggest church for a very long time. I personally don't think that's how to go about it. Every religion has some good in it.
Let's learn and at the same time have fun. Let's disagree but without being rude. I must commend you though, you are one of the few cultured ones from your group on Nairaland.
It's not nice when we make the space toxic for those who disagree with us.

achorladey:
How Jehovah’s witnesses go discuss without innuendos, name calling labels when the discussion does not dance to their tune. The expected outcome is the below.. M




We await more



Playing the victim card as usual . Abeg wetin Jehovah’s witnesses serve me that I need to serve back? You can equally see the bad fruits in other Christian denominations abi dem get good fruit ni? . Na make your body too hot about vengeance. The Bible you carry say vengeance is of the Lord but we know people like and Anthony Morris can't wait for us to go up in flames using the match stick and box as teaching aids to emphase how DESPICABLE APOSTATES will be destroyed.




I laugh at STRICTLY when those Jesus is using cannot guarantee perfect spiritual food. . Your spiritual food is filled and refilled with mistakes and errors over the years. Oga go and read your brochure. To enjoy your self praise

achorladey:
You know he had already responded. To go back and read now become what you say I peddle. Let me bring it back


That's your own palaver, the Koko is that you believe in Bible just the way Satan did. So to believe in Bible doesn't mean you have the truth

the Koko is that you believe in Bible just the way Satan did

So to believe in Bible doesn't mean you have the truth

Antiislaam:
Who is allah of Christians? Don't tell me the same allah that your fellow Muslims are worshiping by bowing down for the shrine of kaaba?

Mohammed is a false prophet and the Muslim Allah is imaginary.

tctrills:
You can always count on it bro

yahwehpickin:
Please give us 3 scriptural proof of Mary being the mother of God?
The scripture says in the mouth of 2 or more witnesses a matter is established....

I'm waiting for your proof.

tctrills:
I don't know if you go about asking everyone their religion on Nairaland and I don't know why you do it. could you explain your intentions?

Janosky:
Excellent!

achorladey:
Indeed you got a response and you decided to merry go round and keep asking his response





Reality tells me you got the response and trying to play the victim card you kept asking the question above. and added he talks without reasoning. The format you and your likes used on others is being applied and it does not sit well with you. Your response below brought about his response.



You went further



He has given you response to your question, you keep repeating the question. He asked you read and reread if you are not clear.




It is your call



The reason you are chasing the unsmart one for response to your question for over 48 hours.



I know enough to know that he has just served you well the same way you and your likes serve others and you don't like or want to accept it. Don't forget you have said on this platform repeatedly your religious organisation are the ones practicing the purest form of worship . The others are foregone conclusion

tctrills:
You need to answer If Jesus is a god or Not. Because if he is, then explain why there is only one true God. I don't think Jesus Christ is a False God.

tctrills:
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It seems the word"god" is a confusion for you.
I am not confused, you just have not explained yourself. You say Jesus is God but not the one true God.


Was Jesus lying when he said the Father is the one true GOD?
Did they also read that Jesus has a God and a Father?
John 20:17

Jesus said the Father is the one true god....first witness
John believed and wrote it down...... second witness
Paul emphasized on it I Corinthians 8:5&6, Ephesians 4:6.....third witness

God Himself said he's the one GOD Deuteronomy 6:4..... fourth witnesss No one disagrees here, the question is in John 1.1 is Jesus Christ God or not? Is he a false God or a true God?



Well that's their dogma. The truth is clear in the Bible.
Jesus and God are distinct beings. We never argued that but you are yet to reconcile John 1.1 to the rest of the scriptures.

You can't even differentiate between Catholics beliefs and unitarians beliefs.
Both have the same poison though. Explain yourself better.


Whatever you meant by that ain't my problem.


What's your religion? Do you believe in God? If I don't believe in God, we would not be having this discussion. Why do you ask? Have I in any way blasphemed against God?

achorladey:
Read, reread, reread read reread. I see someone got served the way you serve others.

tctrills:
Even God the Father Himself called human judges Gods. John 30.

You are now adding more kerosine to the fire by yourself.

Your brain is the fire and my posts is the kerosene.

I'll stick to Jesus, Moses and Paul's beliefs. John 17 3, Deuteronomy 6 4 1 Corinthians 8 5&6

The one God is the Father. Ephesians 4 6

You should stick to their belief but you seem to forget that it was John in his very first verse of scripture that told us that Jesus is God.

God obviously knew what he said. He showed in the verse that Jesus and Jehovah are two separate beings.
He didn't say the word that was with GOD is the is the GOD.
The same John wrote that Jesus has a God and a Father. The same John said GOD Himself called some men Gods.

Let me ask another question, How many fathers do we have? Is Jesus Christ our Father?

Sorry I can't go over this again.
Have you forgot that you ask a similar question about Jesus being the saviour?

Isaiah 43:11
[11]I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

And I showed you that God saved through Jesus just like he saved through Moses. So the Father Jehovah is the SAVIOUR!

1 Thessalonians 5:9
[9]For God chose to save us through our Lord Jesus Christ, not to pour out his anger on us.

So we are back to arguing whether Jesus is a true or false God.

Don't you see what is happening here? The Catholics and many other Christians did not develop the theory of Jesus being God from their heads. They read it in the bible Just as you read in the bible that there is only one true God.

The Catholics then went a step further to reconcile the 2 scriptures so they say if there is only one true God and Jesus Christ is God, then Jesus Christ must be the same as God.

Your argument is actually fuel for the Catholic belief.

Antiislaam:
As a followers of allah that you be

tctrills:
So we at least agree on something. Also, you modified John's words in John 17.3. Nice one, not only the Catholics change the written words .
That's what most Christians do, modify the bible to suit their arguments.
So if anyone calls Jesus God, or Mary the mother of God, it's actually not a lie. We both agree.

tctrills:
When Jesus is called God, it doesn't mean God in his Father's essence.
God is God, whether the Father or Son's essence, he is God like John says.

tctrills:
I love the modification you are making here. You are saying We have only one true almighty God and no longer saying only one True God now you agree Jesus Christ is a God.

tctrills:
If you are not true, you are false. there is no in-between. I guess the point you are trying to make is that his father is greater than him. But saying he is not a true God and also not a false god is not really saying much.

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
God's plan is for us to be like him and have all that he has and sit on his throne.

tctrills:
I did not say it's about looks, I only used that as an example to explain simile.

tctrills:
So he is a God, not a false god. the argument has never been if he is mighty or not. he is clearly a true God. So why have you been arguing ever since even when you know Jesus is god.

tctrills:
you said he made him like God, You did not say he made him God. 'Like' is a simile. I look like will smith does not mean that I am will smith

tctrills:
Can I ask you a direct question where we do not beat around the bush?
Is Jesus Christ a God?