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matrixme:
Nice one. I believe Jehovah Witnesses are anti-vaxers, so it's a logical choice.

Anti-vaxers?
You don't know what you're saying!

kenny714433:
They must have been really disappointed. I'm 100% sure they must have been indoors expecting the sound of the trumpet by whichever Angel will blow it.

Those guys are so heavenly minded that they are earthly unconscious.

All their Awake booklet tells stories of the signs of the end times which keeps me wondering if Righteousness22 is their editor.


Apart from their orderliness, I don't know if they've got any other thing worthy of emulating.

Which other religions did you see orderliness

They don't carry weapons to kill their neighbours or Christian brothers.
They don't engage in politics or military service.

Who are those following Jesus's teachings and the Bible if not them?

They are earthly conscious because they believe God will is to restore peace to earth and righteous people will live forever on it.

No one knows the time the trumpet would be blown. The JWs are eagerly waiting for it in joy and hope.

Peace bro!

jesusjnr2020:
You obviously believe He's only interested in the politics of the JW's organization which you are allegiant to.

Lol.
Isaiah 9:6 says something about a government being on Jesus's shoulder. What do you understand by this government?

Actually the government is the same as the kingdom that will be established according to Daniel 2:44.

John 18:36
[36]Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.”

God made Jesus Christ the king of the kingdom set up in heaven.

So JWs stand for God's government in heaven not any imperfect human government influenced by Satan here on earth.

Do you know that Satan controls this present world and its government?

Note that in the future, the kingdom will come down to earth and defeat any opposing human government and Jesus together with the kings under him will reign, rule and judge the earth.
The Kingdom will come and the will of God will be done on earth!

OLAADEGBU:
The reason you place the comma where you did is to justify your heretical teachings of not being born again as well as not making heaven.

The thief was with Jesus in paradise that same day shey?

You mean paradise is same as heaven?

Have you seen anything like "making heaven" in the Bible?

The comma was added by some people after hundreds of years the original manuscript was written. It's an obvious error.
Well, Archbishop Stephen Langton failed woefully for putting the comma before today.

You've been fed with lies your entire life and when the JWs say something contrary to what you believe (lies), you would think they are the ones lying.

Open your eyes bro. I was in your shoes once. The veil was too thick in my eyes then.

God created man to dominate the earth. Heaven was God and angels abode. It was never meant for physical beings like us.

Go and figure it out.

coolcharm:
The scripture you quoted has practically given you the answer.

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."

Note the distinction between

1. God, the Father (by whom are all things)

And

2. Lord Jesus Christ (by whom are all things)

Now, when Jesus was about to go to heaven, he had this to say to his desciples:

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Now let's get down to the point. Why will God the father send the the Holy Ghost/Spirit in the name of Jesus (God the Son)?

When christians talk about the trinity or the tripartite nature of God, we are not referring to three different Gods. That's a heresy called Tritheism.

Second, we don't believe that the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are three "forms" of God—like, steam, water and ice. That's the heresy called Modalism.

Third, we don't believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are "parts" or "pieces" or God. That would imply that Jesus is 1/3rd God, the Father is 1/3rd God, and the Holy Spirit is 1/3rd God.

We believe in one living and true God who is the Creator of heaven and earth; who is eternal, almighty, unchangeable, infinitely powerful, wise, just, and holy.

We believe that the one God eternally exists in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, co-equal and co-eternal, having precisely the same nature and attributes, and worthy of precisely the same worship, confidence, and obedience. Matthew 3:16, 17; Matthew 28:19, 20; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3, 4; II Corinthians 13:14.

While this statement is biblically accurate, it can seem very intimidating. Let's break it down into six smaller statements about the trinity that's easier to understand:

One God and One Only
Exists in three Persons
Equal and Eternal
Worthy of equal praise and worship
Distinct yet acting in unity
Constituting the one true God of the Bible


When we say these things we mean that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, but they are not three gods but only one God. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Spirit, the Spirit is not the Father, but each is God individually and yet they are together the one true God of the Bible.

Have you ever seen the word "Godhead?" Theologians sometimes use that term when they want to refer to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit as three divine Persons in one God.

There is only One God

The Bible contains numerous clear statements regarding the unity of God: Deuteronomy 6:4 tells us that "the Lord is one." 1 Corinthians 8:4 adds that "there is no God but one." 1 Timothy 2:5 explicitly says "there is one God." All Christians heartily affirm this truth.

However, the Bible also contains clear statements regarding diversity within that unity. For instance, in the very first verse of the Bible we are told that "In the beginning God." The Hebrew word for God is elohim, which is actually a plural form of the word el. It's a word that in other contexts is sometimes translated as "gods," referring to heathen deities. Later in the same chapter we have one of the most striking statements of diversity-in-unity:

Then God said, ‘‘Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, [/b]and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." [b]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:26-27

Notice the shift in pronouns. "Let us … in our image … So God created man in his own image. … he created him." From us and our to he. Why the shift? [/b]Commentators speak of a literary form called the plural of majesty or the "editorial we." This much is certainly true. If Genesis 1 does not explicitly teach diversity-in-unity within the Godhead, it certainly leaves room for it to be developed later in the Bible.

Isaiah 48:16 seems to explicitly refer to all three Persons of the Trinity (with my additions in parentheses): "And now the Sovereign LORD (the Father) has sent me (the Son), with his Spirit (the Holy Spirit)."

[b]Consider further this line of evidence. All Three Persons are called God in different places in the Bible.

Father — Galatians 1:1
Son — John 20:28
Spirit — Acts 5:3-4

How could the Son and the Spirit be called God unless they somehow share in God's essence? But if they share in God's essence, they are God alongside the Father.

Finally, all three Persons are associated together on an equal basis in numerous passages:

Jesus' baptism—Matthew 3:13-17 (voice of the Father, Son baptized, Spirit descending like a dove).

Salvation—1 Peter 1:2 (chosen by the Father, sanctified by the Spirit, sprinkled with the blood of Jesus).

Sanctification—2 Corinthians 13:14 (grace of the Lord Jesus, love of God, fellowship of the Holy Spirit).

Christian Baptism—Matthew 28:19 (baptized in one name, yet three Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).

Prayer—Ephesians 3:14-21 (strengthened by his Spirit, know the love of Christ, filled with the fullness of God).

Christian Growth—2 Thessalonians 2:13 (chosen by God, loved by the Lord, sanctified by the Spirit).

This list of passages might be extended. It simply shows how easily the writers of Scripture passed from one Person of the Trinity to another, doing so in a way that assumes their equality of nature while preserving their distinct personhood. If the doctrine of the Trinity is not true, it would seem to be blasphemy to speak so freely of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in one and the same breath.

Where in the Bible do you find the word Trinity?

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible. But we don't discard it simply because it isn't found in the Bible. The issue is not the word, but the concept or the idea. We don't believe in the Trinity because of the word, but because of what the Bible teaches.

The Trinity Applied

I am sure that many Christians think this doctrine has no practical value. That is, even if it's true, it doesn't and shouldn't matter to them. However, that simply isn't true. Let me suggest five important ramifications of this truth.

A. The Trinity helps us answer the question, "What was God doing before he created the universe?"
This is a question little children like to stump their parents with. But skeptics like to ask it as well.

The Trinity teaches us that before the foundation of the world, God was having fellowship within his own being. That's why the Bible tells us that the Father loves the Son (John 17:24). In some sense we can never understand that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit have forever communicated and loved each other.

Francis Schaeffer emphasized this point in his books. This, he says, is where the human desire for intimacy and communication comes from. We were made to communicate. That design is part of the image of God within each of us.

It also teaches us that God is never "lonely." He didn't create us because he "needed" us. God could have existed forever without us. That he made us at all is a statement of his great love and the wisdom of his plan.

B. The Trinity sets the limits on human speculation about the nature of God.

There is so much we would like to know about God, but our finite minds cannot comprehend it. We are not free to create God in our own image. The Trinity sets the limits for human speculation. God is more than the Trinity, but he is not less than that.

C. The Trinity teaches us that God is beyond all human comprehension.

After all, if we could explain God, he wouldn't be God. I have no doubt that God is much more than "one in essence, three in Person," but since I can't even understand those simple phrases, I don't worry at all about what else might be true about God. If you feel baffled by the Trinity, join the crowd. The greatest minds of history have stood in amazement before a God so great that he cannot be contained by our puny explanations.

D. The Trinity exalts the Son and the Spirit.

We all know that God the Father is to be worshiped. But what about Jesus Christ? If he is God, should we not also worship him? The answer of course is yes. But that truth leads us back to the Trinity. He is not merely the Son of God but also God the Son. The same thing may be said about the Holy Spirit. He is not just a "force" but a Divine Person. Not an "influence" or some vague power, but the Third Person of the Trinity.

Let me draw one important inference. Since all Three Persons of the Trinity are equally God, we may pray to any member of the Trinity. That, by the way, is the number one question I have been asked about the Holy Spirit since writing Names of the Holy Spirit. Many Christians simply do not feel comfortable praying to the Spirit even though we often sing songs that are essentially prayers to the Spirit, such as "Spirit of God, descend upon my heart" and "Spirit of the living God, fall afresh on me." Surely if we may sing to the Spirit, we may also pray to him. If he is God, our prayers may be directed to him.

I do agree that Christian prayers will customarily be made to the Father (e.g. The Lord's Prayer). But let us not quibble or imagine that the Father is slighted if we direct our prayers to the Son or to the Spirit, according to the need of the moment. There is no jealousy among the members of the Trinity nor could there ever be.

E. The Trinity helps us understand what really happened at the Cross.

At the climax of Jesus' suffering, he cried out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" What do those strange, tortured words mean? We have a hint of the answer in that every other time Jesus prayed, he used the term "Father." But at that moment, when he bore the full weight of the sins of the world, when all that is evil and wretched was poured out upon him, in some way we cannot begin to fathom, God—who cannot look upon sin—turned his back on his own Son. Sin as it were (though not in ultimate reality) caused a rupture in the Trinity. Instead of "Father," Jesus cries out, "My God, my God!" It is God speaking to God. The eternal Son cries out to the Father at the moment when the penalty of sin has been laid upon him. If it be asked, how could one man pay for the sins of the entire race, we find the answer in the doctrine of the Trinity. Only an infinite God could bear the sins of the world!

[/bMajor part of this post is adapted from Christianity.com

https://www.christianity.com/god/trinity/god-in-three-persons-a-doctrine-we-barely-understand-11634405.html

Pls I would like you to make your posts short and precise. I can't address all your points here.

If you are interested, let's start with 1 Corinthians 8:5&6
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ,
    through whom all things were created,
    and through whom we live.

Compare it with Acts 2:36
Acts of the Apostles 2:36
[36]“So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!”

We see from the above verses that God (one person) made Jesus the Lord and Messiah.

Also Paul explicitly affirmed that God (the Father) is the one GOD for them. Jesus also called the Father the one true GOD. John 17:3.

How and when did the idea of three persons God come into the church pure doctrines cos it's obvious that the first generation of Christians believe the Father (one single person) as the one true GOD there is?

How can we be so sure that the bringers of trinity idea were inspired by the holy spirit?

coolcharm:
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.... (Emphasis on "Let Us"

Yes. Jesus was there from the very beginning, and as Christians, we believe in the tripartite nature of God. (i.e God the father, The Son and The Holy Spirit).

I see you've come for an argument, but sorry, I won't indulge.

Did the first apostles of Christ, Jesus himself, the early church and the Jews believed in any tripartite God? 1 Corinthians 8:6

Is God not a singular whole being?

justified007:
So it is Jesus that created the morning and night ? He's still the one watching over us ?


Wetin baba God con dey do ? Abi Jesus is now God and no more Son of God ?

When Jesus was in the grave for 3 days na him dé watch people.
Nobody knew Jesus until he came as the promised Messiah. God the Father chose to save mankind through him.

Jesus is a God that has a GOD, the Father, Jehovah!

Nnamdi Kanu is the seal of the prophets, of course Allah will be angry.
Foolish talk.

I wonder why Christian nowadays completely forgot the one true God, the Father (Jehovah) and carry Jesus the son "for head".

The Father is the source of all life.

The Father has no beginning.
The son was begot/created by the Father in His express image.
The Father created everything else through the son.
Everything the son has, he got it from the Father, name, authority, kingdom, life....
The Bible teaches that the Father is greater and superior to the son.

Who's the one true God for Christians according to 1 Corinthians 8:6, and John 17:3:
a). The Father (Yahweh or Jehovah).
b). The son (Jesus).
c). Both (Trinity).

Since you believe in the above then Jesus was part of the sons of God that came to sleep with ladies in Genesis 6:1-4. That was why his father had to punish him by hanging to death. That sin was too much!

If Jesus was part of the sons of God that came to marry women, he would be in prison now waiting for judgement with other sons of God that sinned.
God didn't allow any of them to enter heaven, they were captured and imprisoned in darkness.

His death was out of love for mankind and obedience to God.

If Christ can save he would have saved himself from death despite the many miracles. He can't even save you guys from telling lies here. He can't prevent you from abuse and falsehood peddling

Jesus didn't save himself. God raised him from the dead. God have him the power to do miracles just like Jesus's apostles were baptized by the holy spirit and performed even more miracles than Jesus.

But God chose to save mankind through Jesus Christ by sending him to die sacrificially on a stake.

Jehovah GOD Himself is the saviour.

Just like God used Moses to save the Israelites is the same way God used Jesus to save mankind.

The Biblical Jesus was sinful as he did call a woman and her tribe dogs! He once saw a fig tree without fruit and he cursed it to death! This is a negative miracle that caused the death of a creation! (deforestation).

Lol. The woman was a complete stranger, a gentile, that's why Jesus compared her to dogs.
We now have two Jesus in history right?

Mark 7:28
[28]She replied, “That’s true, Lord, but even the dogs under the table are allowed to eat the scraps from the children’s plates.”

The woman obviously understood what Jesus meant and her faith healed her daughter.

AntiChristian:
May what befell you guys not befall us!

tctrills:
You are right about my post, we really can't change the world we can only change ourselves.
And yes again I can't stop you from drinking, I can only make you aware of the damage alcohol does to your body. And if you value your body as a gift from God, it's up to you to make the hard decisions. Palmwine is more alcoholic than beer.
You don't need to be a drunk to have alcohol-induced health issues. As long as you drink, your health is at risk.
Alcohol is an irritant to all body tissue, from where it comes in to where it goes out. Alcohol does kill brain cells. Some of those cells can be regenerated over time. In the meantime, the existing nerve cells branch out to compensate for the lost functions.
Finally, you can live a happy life without alcohol. You don't need to drink to find happiness.

Well, Jesus drank vinegar and wine in the Bible. He is the wonderful counsellor and he knows more than anybody in the world.

Alcohol dependence is a form of alcohol addiction.

Imperfect humans get addicted to many things today.

The Bible is the best guide on that.

You no go talk and you went ahead to say all these, are you normal at all or you do not have good grasp of the English language?

Learn how to follow discussion.

When you said "it really pain me sha", I said I won't talk cos I don't know what could pained me in your craps.

i said Mary was/is the mother of Jesus because the two are correct. David was/is the father of Solomon. It depends on your reading and i agree with the two. Like is have clearly said, if you now go FURTHER to worship or pray to, that is where we disagree

Okay let's agree that was/is both usable.

The thread is centered on why protestants/Pentecostals believe in trinity and don't believe in Mary the mother of GOD like the Catholics do? We all know that both the dogmas came from the supposed mother of all church.

Image123:
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Asking where you see God the Son is as foolish if not more foolish than asking where one sees Bible or pornography in the KJV Bible before you have sense. Your denomination has now updated and you should also. They now accept that Jesus is God . But shame catch them well, they add a caveat that Jesus is God like Moses. At least update small to that level na, your friend Max has updated.
Jesus the Son of God is God the Son. God came and dwelt among us. The Word WAS God, ALL things were made by Him(including your sorry self). 1 Timothy 3v16. Read it and be free from the yoke of cultism.

Image123:
Learn what exactly? Give me three benefits of what you are so particular that i should learn, thanks.

Wake up from your sleep and see what's going on around you.

In the first place, i am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God

Have you seen one recently?

Image123:
i hope you learn for real. i see you have been substituted. i will try get your sub time later.

Ok

tctrills:
The bible teaches that drunkenness is wrong, what about those that can take much alcohol without getting drunk does that make it right? It's wrong to take in poison no matter how little since we can't tell how much is exactly too much. Don't tempt the Lord your God.
From the bible's point of view, we should take good care of our bodies. if we knowingly destroy our bodies, it is a big sin. The body is not your own. So now you know that even moderate drinking can harm your body, would it be right to continue your moderate drinking?
Now to conclude... Alcoholism itself is not a sin but a disease. But then the only sure way to escape alcoholism is by never drinking in the first place so the body does not create a dependence on it.
Now drinking in itself is another thing. To anyone who knows the truth and refuses to obey, to him, it is sin. After learning that alcohol is dangerous to the body, it would be wrong to continue drinking.
Alcohol kills more people than heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl combined. It's a subtle killer.
You said people are addicted to many things; true but some drugs are known for their addictive properties. Alcohol is one such drug.
Finally, you asked if I drink. personally, I don't like discussing my personal life in public forums so forgive me if I do not answer your question. And it doesnt only kill addicts or drunks.

Your small post here can't stop factories from producing alcohol and people from consuming.
The Bible only teaches that drunkenness is sin.
I like palmwine and no one can stope from drinking it.
Not everyone is a glutton and a drunkard.

Read Al Bayina vs 5.
Read Qur'an 4:59
O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger...

Where did Allah promise you salvation?

Yes, all worship belongs to Allah. Allah told us to obey the Prophet. So anything the Prophet commands in Islam is from Allah.

Is the killing of ram to Allah part of the worship?
Is Allah not a ritualist?

Yahweh is represented with Allah in your Arabic Bible. So Allah is the Lord of Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad.

You always run to the Bible and Christians to validate your religion.

What about your thread that says Christians use Allah as God in their Bible to deceive gullible Hausas?

Lol you even mentioned Yahweh
Do you even understand the Bible at all?
The word for "God" in Hebrew and Greek is El and Theo respectively. Yahweh (Jehovah) is the personal name God gave to His true prophet Moses.

Christians in Arab or in any Muslim state use Allah as word for God/god before Mohammed was born. Yet they don't believe in Mohammed as a true prophet nor practice Islam nor believe in Islam Allah.
If Abdullah (which means servant of Allah) Mohammed's father was a pagan and he was named that, which Allah was Abdullah's parents refering to?

Jehovah is the God of Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham and Jesus!

Is Allah not a general word for God in Arabic?

Where did Yahweh call himself the "Christian God" in the bible? Christian God does not exist as Jesus said the Lord our God is one! So why create a "Christian God that doesn't exist here?

True Christians worship the one true GOD of Jesus!

Jesus said he will be in the belly of the earth like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. Jonah didn't die before coming out of the fish. Jesus didn't died too.

Lol. That was an illustration. Did he not also say he will lay down his life for mankind?

Qur'an does not talk like Bible. Allah is the one talking in the Qur'an unlike the Bible wherein the person talking is doubtful and definitely not Yahweh in most cases.

Yeah your Allah seemed to do the talking in Mohammed's favour. Like when he, Allah released the verse for Mohammed to marry Zainab.
And you Muslims would claim that Koran had been written and sealed in heaven before it was revealed to Mohammed.
The question is if Zaynab was destined for Mohammed, why did Mohammed himself marry her to his adopted son Ziad?
Why didn't Mohammed marry her at first? Allah no fit release the verse before her marriage to Zaid?

Allah said many things about Jesus in the Qur'an. In Qur'an 19:30 Jesus is the servant/Slave of Allah not the son of Allah or angel.

Did he also say he was a perfect sinless man born by a virgin?

The Bible is written by men from hearsay and mixed with some truths and several falsehood. Why will i believe such book? God claims He does not change. But He later decide to change covenant!

Point out the falsehood and show us the truth.
Wasn't the old covenant strictly for the children of Israel?

Shouldn't we gentiles too benefits from the creator of heaven and earth?

Hence there's a need for a second covenant. God doesn't change. That's why he will restore His initial purpose for earth and the righteous will live forever in abundance of peace in it.

You can believe in your false theories from your JW cult. Why was Sodom destroyed? God is love indeed. Why Was the Pharaoh drowned?

God saw how evil humans are, he then drowned everyone saving 8 people, Noah and his household.
The people of Sodom commited great atrocities and he destroyed them all saving lot and his daughters.

God was planning to raise His own special people from the seed of Abraham but Pharaoh opposed God and he paid for it.

The fact is that God never said anyone would suffer in any fire after death. Death is the reward for sin.

Na love! Why did God send people to be killed in revenge? Na love! Why was Job almost destroyed? Na Love! May that love fall on you!

Can you now see the reason why God can let people born in fire for eternity?

God has been punishing people with many things of natural disasters out of the control of man. Hell is real.

Well it not real.

When was the Roman Catholic Bible compiled? When was the Qur'an compiled?
Come see Jehovah witness telling brazen lies here!

Lol..go and check history well. Even Mohammed new about Christian and Jewish scriptures. They might not have compiled it as a whole book, but it's already existing and accessible.

[quote author=AntiChristian post=111493588][/quote]Jesus the King of kings is still coming to destroyed wicked people, Satan and his fallen angels.

tctrills:
Too many questions here let me start from the last. You are right, I am always about fun and education. so I enlighten and have fun at the same time.
To the next question, can you define moderate drinking? Did you know that a bottle of palm wine has a higher alcoholic content than beer?
To the next question, I wasn't talking about doctors being naive. Drinking does not make one naive. Rather I was referring to the belive that because doctors drink then it must be great for their health. If you see a doctor smoking, would you conclude that smoking is great? Because I have a few doctor friends who smoke.
If you see a doctor always eating junk food would that be the excuse for eating junk? You can't be that naive to think that anything doctors do must be correct.
Now to your questions about alcoholism, I would live you with a link or two so you can read from those with more authority than myself.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alcohol-use-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20369243
https://www.healthline.com/health/alcoholism/basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5DxD6Tuxxw&vl=en

About moderate drinking, let me quote from the CDC. The CDC is the biggest drug and health administrator in the US

The Guidelines note, “Emerging evidence suggests that even drinking within the recommended limits may increase the overall risk of death from various causes, such as from several types of cancer and some forms of cardiovascular disease. Alcohol has been found to increase risk for cancer, and for some types of cancer, the risk increases even at low levels of alcohol consumption (less than 1 drink in a day).”4
Although past studies have indicated that moderate alcohol consumption has protective health benefits (e.g., reducing risk of heart disease), recent studies show this may not be true.

From the Bible point of view, moderate consumption is not bad. It's not a sin.

People are addicted to many things not just alcohol.
What's your personal conclusion?

Do you drink?

Image123:
Who is God's provision of salvation for mankind? Is God not Love? How best did God demonstrate love but by giving His only begotten Son Jesus.
These are simple and obvious facts but i don't expect you to think except there's an usual update from the sad hall elders/government.

Ok

NNTR:
Please try refraining from typing puerile remarks. There is a growing disrespect that I find to be somewhat off-putting for my liking

No kidding

As you like it

What part of 'Didnt know you required my permission. Go ahead then. Shoot' dont you please understand?

We know you went to good school. Drop grammar and bring what you promised.

I can't ask you my questions without your response first.

tctrills:
Bro, we can't afford to be naive... We have seen many doctors commit suicide, we have seen doctors engage in unprotected sex. We know doctors who are overweight yet they refuse to excises and eat right. We know doctors who died from drug overdose. Just because your doctor does it does not make it right.
These days, you don't need to be a doctor to access the best health journals and to have the latest knowledge about alcohol.
And you are wrong, a cup would stress your liver. It most likely would not kill you but the overtime accumulation has an effect.
Also, if you have tendencies for alcoholism, a cup or two would finally get you hooked on drinking.
Alcohol is a poison. It kills 1 in every 20 people. It is more potent than war.
True I would not kill every user, but you can never say because you can't see inside your body. It's just like the game of Russian roulette. You can never tell the effect of the next bottle.

1. Is alcoholism different from alcohol addiction?
2. What are the causes of alcoholism disease?
3. What are the symptoms?
4. Do you know the meaning of naïve? Are doctors naïve? Why do they still drink?
5. Is moderate intake of palmwine harmful to the liver?

6. What is your motive for creating this thread?
Do you wanna prove that alcoholism is a disease not sin or you wanna enlighten people to quit drinking or your catching fun as usual?

I'll give you a well balanced post about alcohol from the JW library, Enjoy Life Forever.

NNTR:
Epistle? Try act your age now please.
Didnt know you required my permission. Go ahead then. Shoot

Why bring age up here old man?
You don't even know my age. I might be acting it.
Just say you don't have my time.

Should I keep my questions till after your pending post?

NNTR pls can I ask my questions while waiting for your epistle?

jesusjnr2020:
When did witches start speaking for God instead of the devil?

Osinbajo carry go, no mind them jor. If dem do anyhow, dem go see anyhow...

There must something your tenure is doing to them that makes them to be so apprehensive and not want to see you returning, so that must be a good thing.

God bless Nigeria!

Like God is now interested in politics Abi

ThankGodFriday:
If I pray for repentance, I don't feel the spirit of God in me.
What should I do?

If you're waiting to get that feeling that the spirit of God is in you, it won't do you good.

Your feelings are your feelings.

All you need to do is sincerely pray to the Father once without repetition.
Always study and meditate the Bible to help you fight temptations. Have faith in Yahweh God and your trust completely in Him.

God doesn't just gives his holy spirit to anyone nowadays

Kobojunkie:
So, you need tips on how to slice and eat a pineapple? Is that it?

Someone probably lost a pineapple at sea and your wife happened to be there when it finally came to shore. I am not sure what salted pineapple tastes like but try it and let us know, assuming it is not rotten or shriveled up as a result of sitting in all that salt water.

I don't know your this intelligent

Steep:
To understand the bible, we must understand who the book is talking about, every symbol, history, poetry, songs, prophecy are all pointing to just one man, Jesus Christ the Son of man.


John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

The theme of the Bible is, God's love and provision of salvation for mankind!

Ternistacle:
How sure are we, that the Christianity we are all practicing is the right way of life or the main religion??

Bible's TRUTHs have been distorted with men's doctrine i.e trinity, immortality of the soul etc.
The apostolic fathers were not inspired.

Salvation is attained by the believe in Allah alone, worship Him alone as He ought to be worshipped through following the injunctions of the Prophet.

Can you show me where the Qur'an explicitly says that?

Not all Muslims kill ram. Capable Muslims kill it. And it's not compulsory on those who can't afford it.

Are we talking about capability here?

And the Ram is to obey the injunction of the Prophet following the footstep of Abraham. He wanted to sacrifice his son and the sacrifice was replaced with a ram.

Who did Abraham want to sacrifice his son to?
Who did he sacrifice the ram to?
Who told him to do the sacrificing?
Did Allah command you in your Qur'an to do that?

The People of Moses were to follow Allah as Moses their Prophet commands them.

Did any prophet or nation know and worship any God as Allah before Mohammed?
Was Allah the God of Moses?
Is Yahweh not the God of Moses?

Jesus never claim he brought a new covenant anywhere in the Bible.

Did the Christian God not promise that he will bring a new covenant?
Didn't Jesus talk about his death and how God will save mankind through him?

Jesus said why do you call me good! there is none good except God alone Luke 18:19, Mark 10:18! That means Jesus is not perfect!

What did your Koran say about Jesus, should I bring ayahs?
Do you now believe the Bible more than Mohammed's book?

You will die one day and your destination is either hell or Paradise!

Paradise is not the same as heaven. Paradise is new earth!

God never threatened anyone with fire throughout the Bible. God is love, he wouldn't burn anyone for eternity.

Hell fire is imaginary.

Roman Catholic invented hell fire and your prophet believe the existence of the imaginary hell and put it in your book to scare his followers.
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Angels in Islam can't impregnate humans.

Can they impregnate themselves?

Na Christians get those Angels.

There was even nothing like Judaism or Christianity when that happened.
Moses that authored the book of genesis wasn't there when most of the events in it happened. Like the creation account and some other account, they were inspired by God. They were true event that really happened.

There are many cases in the Bible where angel came to earth. Most came to do God's will.
But those particular angels came down without God's permission to sin. Angels don't have sexual relations in heaven. God didn't allow them back in heaven, he imprisoned them somewhere and they will destroyed in the future.

Humans get sex in marriage and there will be such in heaven too.

Yeah that could only happen in the imaginary heaven of your prophet.
The main purpose of sex is copulation and multiplication of mankind.
There's no such in heaven. Angels don't reproduce. Use your small brain well.

Nothing like sex in heaven? So how did the sons of God know about sex? How were they able to woo humans? How did they learn the art of copulation? How did they get the organ and viable sex cell to fertilise a human oven?

I thought you said angels in Islam don't do that
And why do Muslim think Allah can't have a biological son through sex when they believe there is sex and copulation in heaven?
Allah sef gò' dè knack for heaven

Heaven will be interesting!

Your religion heaven is Imaginary!
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Thank God I am not atheist.

Pls don't say this again. Every athiests I've met mention flying spaghetti monster and they ask for evidence of God's existence.
Everyone knows your an athiest brother, no dé lie that kind lie

Workch:
exactly,
I serve the flying spaghetti monster, the creator of the Jewish God, yahweh

Now show me in the gospel book of the FSM where he said he created our God.

Where can I get this book my self?

Why do you foolishly ask for evidence of the Christian/Jewish God when you already know His creator?

I need the evidence that this your god FSM exist and created our God

Image123:
i said " i am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God." Read carefully, i am not asleep comic magazine that you read in drunkenness.

Learn from this thread smallie

This thing really pain you sha.

Lol I no go talk. You be small boy

Prior to this, i have not heard or noticed anyone teach that Mary is not the mother of God.Didn't notice them and can't notice them still.

I have actually seen a lot of Christians from other Christian denominations that don't believe Mary is the mother of God, they don't ascribe divinity to her and worship her statue.
They see it as blasphemy. I even show you one from Naira land.

You need to really take your own advice:

"Remove your head from inside Asleep comic book and see what is really happening around you."

It's just a play of words on their side.

A person that says Jesus is God should know that Mary was/is the mother of Jesus, and therefore the mother of God the Son.

Why didn't you specifically say "Mary is the mother of Jesus or Mary was the mother Jesus, why the play on word?

Where did you see "God the son" in the Bible or which comic book are you reading now?

But that doesn't mean she should be worshipped or prayed to or idolized.

My thread is centered on why we believe in some Catholic dogmas and see the rest as idolatry, blasphemy or unscriptural.


The Bible doesn't teach that Jesus is "God the son" and the trinity doctrine doesn't conform with the scriptures.

She played her part and her part is undeniable except for antichrists who don't believe that God came in the flesh.

God the Father didn't came in flesh.
Jesus the word came in flesh. His Father sent him.
She did a great job, no one denies that.
She was (not "is" ) the mother of Jesus the Messiah and son of the living God.

How did God come in the flesh if not through the virgin (Mary)'s birth

Have I ever denied the fact that Jesus came to the world through Mary a virgin then?

God never left heaven o small small na. Na im son come down to earth to fulfill will of the Father.
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