₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
They're all avoiding the simple question you asked them but he's demanding a YES/NO response!
Why not ask him to give a YES/NO response to the question of what hospitals are using?
YES or NO: Is using medicines a sin?

I have asked him to provide a yes or no answer to that question countless time.
He would start beating around the bush if I ask him again.

ANTIlSLAM:
Let me help the situation, just answer YES or NO..
Is Jesus that you said has power to heals available for you in your religion, JWs?
No super story, just type YES or NO

Jesus only healed while on earth.
He didn't heal anyone before coming to earth and after ascension.
So Jesus ain't available to heal anyone today.
He had the power and chance to heal while on earth.

The answer is capital NO!

ANTIlSLAM:
You're only arguing blindly as you don't know what to say again to cover up your shame
So Jesus Christ in those days is not mighty again to perform divine healing through his people right ?
Shey Jesus that you said has power to heals is NOT available for you in your occultist religion, JWs abi? You are only contemplating issues for yourself with your ignoramus diseases

Jesus didn't depend on himself during his ministry. He solely depended on God's power. That's why he was baptised by the holy spirit at the beginning of his ministry.

Likewise his disciples, they healed the sick, raised the dead, heal the deaf and the dumb and the lame through God's power, the holy spirit.

Who are those that are genuinely baptized by the holy spirit today?

ANTIlSLAM:
See this mufu again, so his disciples didn't performed divine healing after his ascension to heaven bah?
If divine healing is not an abomination in your satanic religion, JWs why promoting traditional herbalists more than Jesus Christ the great physician?

We don't compare the divine healings Jesus did while on earth to anything.

What's available today for treating ourselves are herbs and drugs and we use it accordingly.

ANTIlSLAM:
The bolded above is the problem with your satanic religion, JWs
Since you know that Jesus Christ has power to heals, WHY IS DIVINE HEALING ABOMINATION IN YOUR RELIGION as you're promoting traditional herbalists more than the great physician, Jesus Christ??
MaxInDHouse your second is getting sense gradually

Jesus only healed people after he began his ministry and he stopped healing people after his death.

Divine healing is not an abomination among JWs.

IslamVIRGINS:
cornelboy, is burning herbs with human body parts for money ritual a sin? Stop abusing herbs that's just it

Is using herbs for treatment a sin or abuse?

ANTIlSLAM:
Did he use traditional medicinal herbs to heal the sick? WHY IS DIVINE HEALING ABOMINATION IN YOUR OCCULTIST RELIGION, JWs?
We have settled this and what the verse means by the healing of the nations, stop twisting the word of God to suit your ignorant..

Don't be a fool. Jesus naturally wouldn't use herbs since he has the power to heal, why would he stress himself.

Lol what's the meaning of the verse?

IslamVIRGINS:
Is like you asking you will be glad if someone can point out to where Jesus said you can burn herbs and human part together for money ritual since he created them all. Are you waiting till Jesus tells you if it is a sin or not?

Islamvirgin, is ordinarily using herbs to take care of ourselves sin?

ANTIlSLAM:
You know the truth we are telling you here is making you uncomfortable, frustrated and depressed and the nonsense your colonial masters and founders of your satanic religion, JWs are brainwashing you with that you're the one and only true Christians has no Biblical back-up as you can't point out where Jesus Christ said you should patronize traditional herbalists for healing and deliverance, eyin mufus

I'd be glad if you can point out where Jesus said patronising a herbalist is sin.

God himself revealed that leaves are for the healing of the nations in the book of revelations.
Even if it's figurative, yet there's still impression that leaves are used for healing.

ANTIlSLAM:
Na you and your people go comot here, I will keep on exposing your stupidity while claiming to be the one and only true Christians in your occultist religion, JWs as if Jesus Christ directs you to visit traditional herbalists for healing and deliverance

Your stupidly has long long been exposed

ANTIlSLAM:
But your master Max in his super story said he was taken to the league of herbalists for healing, why dem no take him to nurse herbalists?

Comot for here jàre. You no get brain bobo yi.

ANTIlSLAM:
Bobo shey you get problem comprehending my sentence nii? The people you're running to for healing and deliverance are they not the same herbalists that are using human parts burn with herbs for money ritual? Why now denying your healer herbalists mufu

Sorry I can't comprehend your unreasonable claims.

I know a nurse that deals with herbs and didn't do ritual for people.
Oya come and beat me

ANTIlSLAM:
Those that are using human part with ewe oogun to prepare quick money for you and your people are they not herbalist, are they not the people you are seeking healing from?

You're very unreasonable and a liar.
I never said my people and I consulted anyone for quick money rituals. I work hard to get money and will never do money rituals.
You are always empty with nothing tangible to say.

MaxInDHouse:
The internet is full of stories where pastors are sleeping with other people's wives.
Does that mean the title PASTOR automatically means gigolos or prostitutes?

I don tire o

AgentNairaland:
Who are those caught from all the links sent to you if not your healer herbalists, are they your JW governing body caught in such act if not herbalists?
Doctors will never burnt human parts with herbs for quick or ritual money, I think you know? Your healer herbalists are good on that
We read that from your healer herbalists, the people you're running to for healing!
Are we discussing definition here or their evil acts, who ask you to define what herbalist is? your healer herbalist are good at using herbs burnt together with human parts for money ritual, that's what we are discussing here and not the definition
Who is asking you for the definition? Are your healer herbalists not the same people caught with human parts burnt together with herbs for money ritual? Will Merriam Webster help you out in the definition of the evil act of your healer herbalists?

The herbalist I knew was also a nurse.
She ran the herbs business at home and she never did quick money ritual for people or use human part.
My mum once patronised her. She's late now.

I reiterate, because some herbalists did something evil doesn't mean that every herbalists are evil.

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Even nairaland and Instagram used the wrong name to expose your ritualist herbalists?
https://www.nairaland.com/7432919/herbalist-suspected-yahoo-boy-caught
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSSWGHVrJWE/

Did nairaland and Instagram say herbalists are those that do ritual with human parts?

If a doctor was caught with human parts, would that mean that all doctors are ritualist?

Your healer herbalists are good in selecting the right traditional herbs burnt together with human parts that will give you quick money

Lol. You really know the ingredients for quick money ritual.

Herbalist basically means someone that heals with herbs.

See Merriam Webster's definition below:

AgentNairaland:
Where are those names (Babalawos or ifa priests) mention from what he shown you?

The punch or vanguard newspaper obviously used the wrong name.

Nigeria didn't invent English. It's not our language.
The authentic meaning of a herbalist is someone that practice herbalism to treat various illnesses.

But in Nigeria, even in nollywood movies herbalists are labelled as those that practice spiritism, divination, etc.
That's a misconception.

See the meaning of herbalist according to Merriam Webster's dictionary:

So when JWs say they consult herbalist, they don't mean those that use human head or practice spiritism but those that use herbs to cure disease.

AgentNairaland:
I thought you said herbalists are not responsible for money ritual, so who are those ritualist Antiislam shared with you if not herbalists?

Na Babalawos or ifa priests dé do rituals no be herbalist. Herbalist are like doctors but they treat with plants.

AgentNairaland:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/04/herbalist-wife-nabbed-for-killing-stepson-for-ritual-purpose-in-ogun/
I don't really think you know what you're even saying at all

Lol. What are you saying yourself?

So if a lawyer or engineer was nabbed for killing step son for rituals, it means every doctor and engineer generally use humans for rituals abi?

AgentNairaland:
Since you know who a herbalist is why asking me unreasonable question then? You should be able to tell this house why these herbalists friends of yours are mixing herbs with human body parts for ritualism

The herbalist I knew was a nurse. She worked in a general hospital and deals in herbs to treat people.
My mother once consulted her.

Anybody can practice spiritism or do charms. Police, medical doctors, carpenters, Bankers, lawyers, herbalists and anyone in other careers can use human part for rituals.

Those that perform the rituals are basically Babalawos or ifa priests not herbalist that simply practice herbalism.

AgentNairaland:
Even if they shed animal's blood for you to be heal, is still none of my business!
Ask your religious leaders in Jeh witnesses to define who a herbalist is for you

I know who a herbalist is already. Na you dé confuse herbalist as babalawo.

Aemmyjah:
If science can create life from non-life, that can be a powerful evidence that they are powerful but the person that made it will illustrate who? A designer/ Creator or Chance/nobody
To make me believe hat science is more powerful than God is for science to create (from nothing), a person more intelligent than Man

Brother, athiests have repeatedly proven to be the most foolish humans on this planet.
They promote "science" has some god or entity that's comparable or even greater than the God. So foolish and unreasonable.
Whereas, "Science" is just the handiwork of man. Man controls science.

In a nutshell, Man is the god of science.
Since man has been advancing in knowledge many years ago till now, scientists haven't been able to explain how life begin and how the universe exist. All they can do is make wild guesses on events they allegedly claimed happened millions of years ago.

Every sane human knows that life couldn't have happened by chance.
The evidence is all around us. An intelligent being must have been the mastermind behind creation.

Thus, the INTELLIGENT BEING is the god of man and man is the god of science.

So only a fool and an insane individual could compare science to the grand CREATOR, God!

sonmvayina:
Which question...
That money can not solve..?

Lol

AgentNairaland:
You never claimed that herbalists are your healers or you don't run to them for medical attention? Am I the one that put this in your mouth!

Whatever heals me is none of your business.

Shey na pastors dé give you your own medical attention?

Can you define who a herbalist ?

sonmvayina:
This is where the confusion comes from..
Jesus is a Roman Catholic creation...
You will never know anything if you continue to dwell on it..
The earth belongs to earth and the fullness thereof..
Evil is a God's learning tool....make mistakes and learn from it and grow..
All power belongs to God....

Thanks

AgentNairaland:
You hate faith and divine healing but love satanic healing through a traditional herbalist that get power from the demons!

Don't try and put your words in my mouth.

I never claim anything you just spouted out.

Aemmyjah:
Come to think of it
Using Earth as an example. The earth is vast but there is one thing that does not come into mind
The earth is hanging like a ball in the sky but held by gravitational forces. We can't see gravitational forces.
Have any of us ever had this fear that one day, the earth will fly out of its orbit and descend like a ball into an ocean? No. The earth will always remain in its orbit and man will continue to live on it.

Did the earth just came by itself and had a kind of cooperation or deals with those forces to keep it in place. Any small mistake, we are all in trouble. But the funniest part that astronomers have seen is that there will never be any mistake!
Did all these come by chance of the works of an intelligent mind?
We really need to give atheist certificate
Certificate of intelligent wisdom (wisdom from the back)

Wisdom from the rear

MaxInDHouse:
God created Adam and Eve in His own image {Genesis 1:26-28} and became their landlord on planet earth but the couple chose Satan as their ruler thereby telling their original landlord to step aside.
Ever since then Satan became the ruler of the world! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

If Satan didn't control the world now, there's no way he would have promised Jesus the kingdoms of the world if the latter bow down to worship him.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you OK?
Make i dey challenge ape pikin àbí wetin you just yan?
Ọmọ i only challenge humans who are inventors and who BELIEVE (TRUST) in the concept of a Grand Inventor not some people who BELIEVES they're from the family of APES.
Why challenge a descendant of ape nah?
Abeg mek sombodi com rescue me o!
Me (Max) challenge ape!

Can't stop laughing

MaxInDHouse:
I've told your brother why it's hazardous to challenge a naked person because he/she will like both of you to appear the same way.
So i've heard you Mr Ape it's only difficult for me to figure out how a descendant of ape now reason and talks but disputing what an old book says that snakes and donkeys once talked.
Abeg what makes you dispute the Bible's Author if you now believe APES can talk?

Rotflmao

AgentNairaland:
YES! I see it in Christ Jesus as he heals the sick without treatment or medicinal herb

Lol. Have you seen treatment where medicine is not used?

I'm not talking about faith healing.

AgentNairaland:
You called those techniques and method of healing medicines?

Have you seen any treatment where medicine is not used?