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Ken4Christ:
Chapter One - Into Hell

In March 1976 while I was praying at home, I had a visit from the Lord Jesus Christ. I had been praying in the Spirit for days when all at once I felt the very presence of God. His power and His glory filled the house. A brilliant light illuminated the room where I was praying, and a sweet and wonderful feeling came over me.

Lights flowed in billows, rolling and folding into one another and rolling over and out of each other. It was a spectacular sight! And then the voice of the Lord began to speak to me.
He said, "I am Jesus Christ, your Lord, and I wish to give you a revelation to prepare the saints for My return and to turn many to righteousness. The powers of darkness are real and My judgments are true.

"My child, I will take you into hell by My Spirit, and I will show you many things which I want the world to know. I will appear to you many times; I will take your spirit out of your body and will actually take you into hell.

"I want you to write a book and tell of the visions and of all the things I reveal to you. You and I will walk through hell together. Make a record of these things which were and are and are to come. My words are true, faithful and trustworthy. I Am That I Am, and there is none beside Me."

"Dear Lord," I cried out, "What do You want me to do?" My whole being wanted to cry out to Jesus, to acknowledge His presence. The best I can describe it is to say love came over me. It was the most beautiful, peaceful, joyful, powerful love I have ever felt.

God's praises began to flow from me. All at once I wanted to give Him my whole life to be used by Him, to help save people from their sin. I knew, by His Spirit, that it actually was Jesus the Son of God who was there in the room with me. I cannot find words to express His divine presence. But I know that I know it was the Lord.

"Behold, My child," Jesus said, "I am going to take you by My Spirit into hell so that you may be able to make a record of the reality of it, to tell the whole earth that hell is real, and to bring the lost out of darkness and into the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ."

Instantly, my soul was taken out of my body. I went with Jesus up out of my room and into the sky. I knew all that was going on about me. I saw my husband and children asleep in our home below.

It was as though I had died and my body was left behind on the bed while my spirit was going with Jesus up through the top of the house. It seemed as though the whole roof was rolled back, and I could see my family asleep in their beds.

I felt the touch of Jesus as He said, "Fear not. They will be safe." He knew my thoughts.
I will try to the best of my ability to tell you step-bystep what I saw and felt. Some of the things I did not understand. The Lord Jesus told me the meaning of most of them, but some things He did not tell me.

I knew then, and I know now, that these things were really happening and only God could have shown them to me. Praise His holy name. People, believe me, hell is real. I was taken there by the Spirit many times during the preparation of this report.

Soon we were high into the heavens. I turned and looked at Jesus. He was full of glory and power, and such peace flowed from Him. He took my hand and said, "I love you. Fear not, for I am with you."

At that, we began to go even higher into the sky, and now I could see the earth below. Protruding out of the earth and scattered about in many places were funnels spinning around to a center point and then turning back again. These moved high above the earth and looked like a giant, dirty type of slinky that moved continuously. They were coming up from all over the earth. "What are these?" I asked the Lord Jesus as we came near to one.

These are the gateways to hell," He said. "We will go into hell through one of them." Immediately, we entered one of the funnels. Inside, it looked like a tunnel, spinning around and around and back again like a top.

A deep darkness descended on us, and with the darkness came a smell so horrible it took my breath away. Along the sides of this tunnel were living forms embedded in the walls. Dark gray in color, the forms moved and cried out to us as we passed. I knew without being told that they were evil.

The forms could move but were still attached to the walls. A horrible smell came from them, and they screeched at us with the most awful cries. I felt an invisible, evil force moving inside the tunnels.

At times in the darkness, I could make out the forms. A dirty fog covered most of them. "Lord, what are these?" I asked as I held on tightly to Jesus' hand.

He said, "These are evil spirits ready to be spewed out on the earth when Satan gives the orders."

As we were going down inside the tunnel, the evil forms laughed and called out to us. They tried to touch us, but could not because of the power of Jesus. The very air was polluted and dirty, and only the presence of Jesus kept me from screaming at the sheer horror.
Oh, yes, I had all my senses—I could hear, smell, see, feel and even taste the evil in this place. If anything, my senses had become more sensitive, and the odor and filth almost made me sick.

Screams filled the air as we came near the base of the tunnel. Piercing cries came up the dark tunnel to meet us. Sounds of all sorts filled the air. I could feel fear, death and sin all around me.

The worst odor I have ever smelled filled the air. It was the smell of decaying flesh, and it seemed to be coming from every direction. Never on earth had I felt such evil or heard such cries of despair. Soon I would find that these were the cries of the dead and that hell was filled with their wails.

I felt a gust of evil wind and a small suction force ahead of us. Lights like lightening or strobe flashes penetrated the black darkness and threw gray shadows on the walls. I could barely make out the form of something in front of me. I recoiled in shock when I realized that it was a large snake moving along ahead of us. As I continued to look, I saw those ugly snakes were slithering about everywhere.

Jesus said to me, "We will soon enter the left leg of hell. Ahead you will see great sorrow, pathetic sadness and indescribable horror. Stay close to Me, and I will give you strength and protection as we go through hell.

"The things you are about to see are a warning," He said. "The book you write will save many souls from hell. What you are seeing is real. Fear not, for I will be with you."
At long last, the Lord Jesus and I were at the bottom of the tunnel. We stepped out into hell. I will try to the best of my ability to tell you what I saw, and I will tell it in the order God gave it to me.

Ahead of us, as far as I could see, were flying objects darting here and there. Groaning sounds and pitiful cries filled the air. Up ahead I saw a dim light, and we began walking toward it. The path was a dry, powdery dirt. We were soon at the entrance to a small dark tunnel.

Some things I cannot put on paper; they were too awful to describe. The fear in hell could be tasted, and I knew if I had not been with Jesus I would not make it back. In the writing of this, some of the things I saw I do not understand, but the Lord knows all things, and He helped me understand most of what I saw.

Let me warn you—don't go to that place. It is a horrid place of torments, excruciating pain and eternal sorrow. Your soul will always be alive. The soul lives forever. It is the real you, and your soul will go to either heaven or hell.

To those of you who think that hell is here on earth —well, you are right—it is! Hell is in the center of the earth, and there are souls in torment there night and day. There are no parties in hell. No love. No compassion. No rest. Only a place of sorrow beyond your belief.

To be continued

MaxInDHouse, Kobojunkie, sonmvayina, cornelboy.

Super story!

If you can't use the scriptures to prove your point, ọmọ I'm done with you.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

That guy na something

Ken4Christ:
The soul of a man never gets burnt up. Only the body. This is why Jesus said they will weep and gnash their teeth day and night.
In another place, it says that they will be tormented day and night forever.
Haven't you read about the beast and the false Prophet that will be thrown into the Lake of Fire in Revelation 19:20.
After 1,000 years of Jesus reign, the scripture says that they are still there. Satan was also thrown in there - Revelation 20:10.
They were not burnt up because it's their soul. That part of man is immortal.

Matthew 10:28
[28]“Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Ezekiel 18:4
[4]Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Do you believe in the Bible as God's word?

The Bible doesn't give the idea that the soul is immortal. Rather the soul can die or be destroyed.

If you really want to understand the scriptures, ask from one of the Jehovah witnesses. They understand the scriptures more than anyone.

MaxInDHouse:
So how did the rich man see Abraham and Lazarus since they're not in the same place?

Lol. No kill this guy na

Ken4Christ:
Interpret the passage below for me. Na stubborn fly dey follow dead body enter grave ooo.
Matthew 13:37-43
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

There's nothing hard there nah.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and BURNED IN THE FIRE; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The tares represent the evil ones.
The "burning in fire" represents their destruction.

What'd happen if you put fire on a heap of dried grasses you gathered after clearing a bush on a farmland?
The dried grasses or weeds would definitely be consumed. No traces of them.

The same with chapter 42.

No hell or hell fire is even mentioned throughout the chapter.

Ken4Christ:
Yes, in a sense, hell is a spiritual grave. It is in the heart of the earth. Deeper than the deepest ocean and hotter than any earthly furnace. It is a place you should not even wish your enemy goes to.

There's nothing like a spiritual grave.
Hell is simply the same as grave.
Grave is grave. Nothing like spiritual or physical grave.

You should support your points with Bible verses not from your imaginations.

Ken4Christ:
They are not the same and I have made about 20 differences between hell and physical grave.

Are you saying that there's a SPIRITUAL grave?
Perhaps there is.
Let's study through some verses of the Bible.

KJV
Genesis 37:35
And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, For I will go down into the grave unto my son [/b]mourning. Thus his father wept for him.


You should notice that Jacob thought was to go meet his son in the grave. It sounds more like a spiritual grave, doesn't it?

The Hebrew word for [b]grave in the above verse is "She'ol". You see that "She'ol" was clearly translated to 'grave'.

While in another verse;
KJV
Psalms 16:10
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

New King James Version.
For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

You see yourself that the same Hebrew word "She'ol" was translated to both hell and and grave.


Those two verses without reasonable doubt prove that grave and hell are the same thing.


Those that translated the KJV are so skilled in meddling and disturbing our brains.
I'm free from their inconsistent and deviant translations though.

So is hell different from grave?
Absolutely not!

Ken4Christ:
You have made up your mind on what to believe. And you have also been brainwashed. All the wrong teachings that have been programmed into your mind is what is affecting you.
Now answer this question, each time the scripture talks about hell, it says that people will be cast or thrown into hell. Do they throw dead bodies into the grave or lower them gently.
While would Jesus use an imaginary place to warn us or make illustrations.
Why did the Bible say those that will be thrown in there will weep and gnash their teeth? In your village, do dead bodies in the grave weep and gnash their teeth?
Why will the Bible say that they will be tormented day and night? Is there torment in the grave?
Why would the Bible talk about the sorrows of hell? Is there sorrow in the grave?
It shall never be well with Rushell that brought these false teachings. He is already experiencing torture and wishing that someone would come and stop his evil organization he started.
I have tried my best to help you but you don't want to be helped.
Enjoy your journey to hell. You will regret your pride and stupidity because even your conscience is a witness that you are not honest. The evidences that refutes your teachings are overwhelming but you just choose to ignore them.

If you really want a meaningful discussion, we should take it one after the other.

Is hell and grave the same?

sonmvayina:
What was the new convenient about
Show me from the old testament..?
Show me where God said he would impregnate a woman to sire the Messiah and usher in the new convenient ??

When God promised the Israelites a saviour while in slavery under Egypt, did he give the full description?
Did he say Moses would be hidden in a basket and become one of Pharaoh's family?
Did he say he would fled Egypt and go to Midian and marry from there?

Mr black Jew, you have no point.

sonmvayina:
The God I worship is perfect and makes no mistake.
He gets it right the first time..

Lol. God, Jehovah doesn't make mistakes. Na humans make mistakes.
The God of the Jews himself talk am say im go make another new covenant with his people. And na from that new covenant people like me dé benefit from today.

sonmvayina:
Lol..if God commanded them to be stones...
Who has the power to change it?

God himself.

sonmvayina:
If I say the new testament is confusing theology that belongs to the bin...
They will say I have come..
The new testament theology is bull shit, there is nothing divine in it. It has got nothing to do with the creator of heaven and earth whose mercy endures forever...

Lol. You forgot he commanded adulterers among his chosen people Israel to be stoned to death
while Jesus spared and forgave a woman caught in adultery.

I would say the NT is way better than the OT if I were to compare them.

MaxInDHouse:
You wicked o!
So you want this boy to get brain tumor shey?

Hahahaha

Lukuluku69:
Everyone knows whose brain is submitted.
Now run along like your other brother and babble no more.

And you think they didn't know yours is submitted to your sex Lord prophet?

I'm not a JW in case you don't know.
I'm studying with them currently though.

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Hell is a place reserved for lost souls immediately after death. Only the soul goes there after death while the body is in the grave.

Acts 2:31 KJV
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
After jesus' death, he (his soul) was in the grave for three days before resurrection
So according to you, Jesus soul was a lost soul?

It can be likened to a cell where criminals are kept awaiting trials. After they are tried and convicted, they move them to a prison.

What happens to the soul in hell after death?

In hell, the demons themselves carry out the torture while fire of very high degree burns them from time to time.

Which verse of the Bible did you get this?
I like your imaginations

But when day of final judgment comes, the souls in hell are released to face final judgment. They will be reunited with their bodies and we look completely whole again as they stand before the court in heaven.

Lol. Which court in heaven? I will like to know the sources your getting your speculations from.

God declared that the souls of those that sin will die but you seem to be saying otherwise.

When the book of life is opened and their names are not found, they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire which is far worse than hell. It is like liquid fire. They will be burning and at the same time be swimming in it to raise up their heads for a little comfort.

Whoa! Super story.

According to you ;
"Yes, Death and Hell are spirit being that accommodated the souls of the dead."

This is crazy. Hell can never be a spirit being. It's just a place for the dead.

Study Rev. 20:13 extensively.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:

The sea also gave up the deads in it.
Are those deads in the sea different from the deads in hell?
Or why are they some deads in the seas and some in hell?
Why didn't all the deads go to hell?

The angels of God and Jesus himself will from time to time have access to see them but they won't be hurt by the fire.

Ọmọ you sabi imagine things o.

The entity known as hell which is a spiritual compartment in the shape of a woman lying on her back at the center of the earth will also be thrown into the Lake of Fire. It is a much bigger fire consuming a smaller one

What's the essence of burning a fire in another fire
Didn't you say hell na spirit being, na fire now

The Bible did not tell us much about Death. But I believe some souls are held there also awaiting judgment. It is like a realm of transition where the dead find themselves before they finally enter hell or heaven.

Cool. So some souls are in hell while some are in the sea and others are in death.
No be one place lost souls dé go again

I hope this answers your questions.

According to you hell is a smaller fire that will be later cast into a bigger lake of fire.
Hell is also a spirit being in form of a woman bla bla bla.
Some souls are in death while the others are in hell.

The confusion is obvious with you.

Let's fear God and accept Jesus into our lives so we can escape this wrath of God.
God has used previous judgment in the Bible for us to learn from.

I fear God and believe his son as the Messiah and I keep his commandments. That doesn't mean I should believe in the existence of hell.
God would never burn people in a literal for any reason.
That's what a cruel and diabolical ruler would do not a God that is LOVE.

The Noah's flood is one of them where only 8 persons survived the 40 days and 40 nights rain.
The destruction of two cities; Sodom and Gomorrah by fire from heaven is another example of God's fierce wrath.

The punishment God gave those people was just literal physical death.
God never sent them to hell fire.

In fact, no where in the old testament did God said he would burn people in hell fire.
He never inspired that to any prophet of old. He didn't warn anybody about any possibility of suffering after death.

Hell fire is not real but an invention of the Roman Catholics.

Ken4Christ:
Over the years, Jehovah Witness has taught that hell is grave and that there is no place that burns with literal fire. So, they try hard to put grave in place of hell. They also say hell fire is Gehenna in Isreal.
But they do not have another word to replace furnace of fire Jesus mentioned below;
Matthew 13:41-42
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE; there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Why would people continue to be a part of an organization that tells open lies?
Why are they insisting on their lies when there are clear evidences against them?
I marvel at the wickedness of Jehovah Witnesses organization.
They are anti Christ. Please come out from among them so that you will not be consumed by God's anger.
They are opposing the teachings of our Lord Jesus.
MaxInDHouse, Kobojunkie come and defend your lies.
I will keep exposing you till you hide your faces in shame.

Questions ken4christ cannot answer;

Revelation 20:14 KJV
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death..

1. Is lake of fire the same as hell fire?
1a. If they are the same, why would hell be cast into the lake of fire (another hell)?

1b. If they are different, why would people first burn in hell, be resurrected, judged and get cast into another form of hell (lake of fire)?

1bi. Why not judge them first before burning them in fire?

Revelation 20:13
[13]And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

2a. Which part of them is burn in hell after death?

2b. Which part of them is resurrected for judgement according to revelation 20:13

2c. Which part would be casted into the lake of fire? Rev 20:14

3. Are Death and hell some being than could feel pain when casted into the lake of fire?

Lukuluku69:
You can run along now because everyone in the whole wide world know that all Jehovah Witness members have submitted their thinking faculty and abilities to their elders. That is why Daniel said FOUR WINDS yet a Jehovah mugu will say FIVE.
Why not stop posting and let another of your elders on Nairaland do the posting?

Did you not submit your thinking faculty to Mohammed and his forged book?

Sixfiguresmart:
[/b] "Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. [b]The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas." - Al-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351
Muslims will faint after each sex. Wake up again to sex and faint again. This is what will happen in Jannah? Sex and fainting with eternal erection?
Guys how will you feel to have constant erection for a week only? Let alone forever.
Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' " - Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39

the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint.

The sensation could only be felt in heaven. "If you were to experience it in this world, you would faint."
So no fainting in heaven just eternal erection and sex.

Just trying to explain that part I quoted.

Sixfiguresmart:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "The first batch (of people) who will enter Paradise will be (glittering) like the full moon, and the batch next to them will be (glittering) like the most brilliant star in the sky. Their hearts will be as if the heart of a single man, for they will have neither enmity nor jealousy amongst themselves; everyone will have two wives from the houris, (who will be so beautiful, pure and transparent that) the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh." - Sahih Bukhari 4:54:476
The How their virgins will be. This is from Al Bukhari. They cannot deny this one.

Lol. You even get the pictures.

MaxInDHouse:
He got a Google definition and concluded he has gotten the meaning of the title GOD instead of studying the Bible to know what God said about Himself!

Lol. He hasn't stated his points gangan.

kimco:
"A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions."- Google.
Lets not forget that the God we speak of is YHWH, the supreme version of the above definition. Seems you don't know what a God is.

I gave you a like.

MaxInDHouse:
We are all sinners, the only difference between the two thieves executed beside Jesus is that one was repentant while the other wasn't.
If things are to go the way you're thinking Jesus supposed to promise both of them paradise but he only promised one not the two!

That guy reasoning is poor. He would want to prove that he knows the scriptures more than anyone, whereas, he's empty. He only arguie blindly.

MaxInDHouse:
Please let him be, i've discovered that he's just not ready for the truth all he's looking for is anyone who will support the religion his parents handed over to him. So forget about him!

Alright sir

Lukuluku69:
It was Charles Taze and his cohorts that have been messing with your brain that's why I mentioned him.
When you are about typing, try to engage your thinking faculty, that way you won't sound ridiculous and open yourself to ridicule.
God showed King Nebu and Daniel a Vision. The king doesn't have any idea what it was but Daniel was suggested to him Daniel bessech God for the meanings and God sent an Angel with the interpretations yet you said God doesn't have anything to do with the situation in the said vision?
Please read the whole of Daniel again. This time with your own mind. If you are the one replying all along, comprehending what is written in Daniels shouldn't be an issue.

And your Alfas and Imams haven't been messing with your brains

God has the power to know the events that will happen in the future.
It doesn't necessarily mean he made them happen.

So what did you Allah say about the kingdom in your holy book?

Abi your all-wise Allah forgot to mention it in the Koran ni?

Lukuluku69:
God has no business with their Wars yet he showed Daniel visions of Wars and sent an Angel to give it's interpretations? Yet God no business in such ventures. Na so Jehovah no get other things to do after creation?
Your other name is ridiculous.
Keep waiting for your utopian Kingdom of God you are not alone. Keep waiting oooo. Charles Taze Russell and his acolytes don mess with your brain so much so you seems irredeemably lost but we won't give up on you. We won't perchance you return from your straying ways

Lol. No be Charles or Russell write the Bible na.

You haven't still show me where your Allah said he would establish a kingdom or at least where he said Islam is the kingdom he would establish

Lol. God has the power to know the future. That doesn't mean he made it happen.

Lukuluku69:
So after the years you have spent quoting Daniel 2:44, it never occurred to you that it was the Persians God used to end Babylon? You don't know that it was the Persians God used to take back the Jews in captivities back to Judea?
I am not surprised in any way, this is the results of effective brainwash excercise and if you ask questions your elders will shun you.
Yiut elders don't know what they teach reason why they have had many bloopers in their interpretation and keep predicting stupid end times signposts.
Your other brother even said Jesus established a Kindgom in 1914 in one thread like that.

From history, countries had been rising against countries and they wage war against themselves.
God has no business with their wars.

God only fought for his people, the Israelites.

The kingdom Jehovah promised us will be ruled by Jesus and will destroy every government and false religion including Islam.

KnownUnknown:
You be the one with the imaginary friend “god of the jews”.

He's the creator. He's real.
Na your own god no get name. You can design your own god just like you like in your mind.
Continue fooling yourself.

KnownUnknown:
Of course it doesn’t make sense to you. Nothing surprising about that since religion has obviously warped your critical thinking and ability to tell fact from fiction. The “god of the Jews” is a fictional character created by that particular culture.
And of course he can be as intelligent as you want it to be. He can be behind, in the middle, and in front of existence of all life if you want it to be. He can even talk to you if you want. He can be whatever you want him to be.
He is the god of the Jews so I guess the rest of you are afterthoughts.

Lol. Shebi na you give yourself life Abi
Good luck with your imaginary friend you call your God.

Lukuluku69:
And what was your response?
I bet you have quoted Daniel 2:44 a zillion times without knowing what it means. Lol
If I showed you in the Prophetic Tradition the same thing you won't believe it because in your heart is a disease and it increases because you have deliberately become deaf, dumb and blind.

Lol. How Allah take be Jehovah na
Just show me from the Qur'an only. There's probably no place where your God said that.

I have shown you where Jehovah used the Persians to take out Babylon and also shown you where Jehovah used the Arabians to take out Persian and Grecian Empires.

Lol. Where did Jehovah say he used Persia to conquer Babylon?
Did he establish Persia as the kingdom predicted in Daniel 2:44, used them, later dumped them and destroyed them by another kingdom?
Na only your god fit do this kind thing o.

KnownUnknown:
It depends on the level of education, vocabulary, and beliefs of the person talking about the god. Gods are as various as humans because gods don’t exist outside the human mind and are wholly dependent on the human mind. However, there is one criteria common to all the gods and that is fiction.
When was the last time you hear the “word of god” come out of a god’s mouth instead of a man’s mouth?
The gods are Omniblablabla and can do all things except speak for themselves.

What your saying doesn't make any sense to me.
We both have different beliefs about God. So stick to yours while I stick to mine.

My own god is an intelligent being behind existence of all life. The God of the Jews.

Lukuluku69:
Muslims are not planning any war with Rome but if it is ordained by The One Most High that He want a Kingdom taken down, he uses men. Read your Bible you will find many instances of this in it.
When God want Babylon taken down, He used the Persians and when He want the Persian Kingdom taken down He used the Muslim Arabs.
So, if He want The Roman system taken down, He will use Humans. And don't think you will be among because we know you are cowards hiding under a Tourtured interpretations of Scriptures..
You are having issue believing the meanings of the same Bible you have been carrying for years and you want to know what the Quran and Hadith says about Babylon, Persia, Grcian and Roman Empires? Lol
Believe the Bible first.

Lol. Why don't you first show me where Allah talks about establishing a kingdom and using the kingdom to defeat other kingdoms?

MaxInDHouse:
The secret is gradually coming out of Lukmon's comments!
This is the main reason behind so many killer groups all in the name of Islam, they are trying to conquer the world through psychological plus physical weapons. After killing their parents the Arabs will brainwash them to fight for Islam and the killing continues all in the name of Muhammad's kingdom.
Àfọ̀njá in Ìlọrin was killed by the Fulanis today the descendants of Àfọ̀njá are now fighting for the religion of those that killed their father yet calling themselves descendants of Àfọ̀njá whom the Fulanis killed for paganism.

I see.
So definitely, the terrorist group in Nigeria, for example the boko haram were/are actually on a mission to conquer Nigeria for the kingdom of Allah/Mohammed. Cool.