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johnw47:
so called jw
it's common knowledge that you support maxindhouse in his lies and paranoia, but much worse than that, you are supporting maxindhouse in his lying about the Holy Spirit

Alright Emusan the Trio.

Courz:
Have you not answered that question already? Why are you asking me? You have chosen JW. Go with them. Watchtower is looking for people like you who are willing to obey without questioning, people who don't think, people who don't research, people who don't listen to News stories about the Cult, people who are willing to ignore their red flags and scandals, people who are willing to die as Human Sacrifices for them. You're perfect for them. Some people are meant to learn the hard way. You're one of them. You will be a perfect candidate for the incoming Great Delusion. The New World Order! Then, when you are finally in, you will understand the meaning of this phrase from the song Hotel Carlifornia, You can walk out anytime you like but you can never leave!

Why are so worried about people joining cults?
Which religion do you think I could join?
Or do you view every religion as cult?

We are not robot.
MaxinDhouse was a Muslim.
I'm from a CAC family.
I know the TRUTH when I see it.
You think I didn't do any research or reason by myself? Sit down there and be typing rubbish.

After meeting the JW man from New Zealand, everything in the Bible started making a lot of sense to me.

You choose whatever you want for yourself.

Leave me alone with my choice.

Emusan:
You didn't answer my question but you're asking question back
Is that smartness

I didn't see your handwriting

Emusan:
That's nice! I guess it's Holy spirit who also told you this bah...

How did you spell OLAADEGBU in that post?
Baba you no smart.

Courz:
Good. If you have accepted everything I have mentioned about this Cult, once you get baptised, don't complain. After Baptism, Watchtower owns you. Whatever they ask you to do, Do it.. Watchtower loves obedient people that Don't think and Question. Obey their rules and Don't forget to smile while at it.

Which cult do you think is good for me?

Courz:
Is that all you can say? What is No Wahala? You don't know what to say again? Watchtower is allergic to University Education. Are you ready to subject yourself to that crap? If your answer is Yes, once you get baptised and they do that crap to you, zip your mouth! Don't complain! I hope you are aware Complaining or having a different view from your Freemason gods is TABOO! If you have friends or family in that cult but you choose to have a different view or decide to leave, you have to say Goodbye to your friendships and Family. Watchtower says your loved ones must stay away from you. The Cult is more important than Family. There are JW families especially in the western world who have not seen themselves for 5-10 years simply because some choose to leave. The JWs assumed that their loved ones are Dead! Some JW Fathers /Mothers disown their children for leaving the Cult. Some JWs who are disfellowshipped or leave the Cult loose their jobs if their employers are JWs. In the U.S, Some JW parents send their children out of their homes if the children leave the Cult. In Nigeria here, A father didn't attend the wedding of his daughter simply because she left the Cult. Some JWs didn't invite their loved ones to their wedding simply because they left the Cult. You can't marry anybody you like. You must marry a JW so finding a partner will be very difficult for you. If you marry a non JW, other JWs will not come to your wedding and you will be Marked and soft shunned. If you are disfellowshipped for breaking any of their rules, just know that the disfellowship stain will remain on you because JWs will not freely associate with you even after you have been reinstated! JWs are all about pretending and keeping up appearances! Are you ready for that fake life? Are you ready to act like you are happy when you are depressed?

As you are Unbaptised, JWs will be very nice to you. You will think there is Love there. Once you get baptised, you will start to see things. You will also hear stories showing that some JWs are not good people. You will hear of scandals amongst them. You will see Heavy gossip laced with a lot of Backbiting and competition. A lot of Judgemental attitude. You will see that the JWs there don't necessarily like each other. Their love bombing will stop.
You must go out to preach as they do. And you must report the hours you spend Preaching every month even though this is not in the Bible. Reporting your hours is Compulsory. if you don't report, they will hunt you down for it and if you don't report for 6 months, you will be regarded as an Inactive Publisher. The Cult is more of a Corporation than a Religion.
I hope you know as a JW Man, you can't keep Beards. Not even a well carved low beard. You must shave everything. Whereas, Jesus and his disciples had beards. The Israelites were commanded to keep beards. You can see JWs don't follow the Bible. Ask your JW teacher why it is so. He won't give you a tangible reason. We don't have a culture that frowns against Beards. It is even a look most men today like. It is just a stupid rule that has no basis in the Bible. You can't even carve your own hair as you like o! You hair must be low cut! Just be ready to obey stupid rules that have no basis in the Bible without complaining because Complaining is Taboo! Once you complain, you will be Marked! JWs there will avoid you like a Plague! If you don't do what they do, you will be regarded as Spiritually weak and a Bad Association. JWs are Robotic. You must speak like them, act like them. If you don't, they will avoid you. If you are Rich, they will come to you. There is a Caste system. Rich JWs don't associate with Poor ones. There are Cliques everywhere. There is also Politics amongst the Elders especially amongst those who take their positions as Political appointments. In some cases, you will see Tribalism. If you don't have a flashy Car, no respect for you! That's what you get for willingly being in a Cult!

I meant no problem.

johnw47:
paranoid and cannot stop lying so called jw
you confused of course
you falsified my own post and then you complain to courz about him editing a post
you hypocrit and sook, got it yet?
you keep repeating your lies:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
your paranoia is fear:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
has the Holy Spirit told you like maxindhouse said the Holy Spirit told him, that olladegbu and emusan are the same person?

Okay

Lol. Which kind angels be that
Ona sure say no be projector be that.

Courz:
Have you attended University? If you have and become JW, you will be lovebombed and advertised for Ministerial Servant and Elder positions. You will be encouraged to go for those titles as a Man. Are you aware it is strictly forbidden for Elders and Ministerial Servants to take their kids to the University? If you are in these positions and you take your kids to University, you will be stripped of your Titles. Did your JW teacher tell you that? That JW is just like Boko Haram when it comes to University education? Many Elders and Ministerial Servants have been stepped down in many congregations I know and have been. I know a congregation coordinator who is presently lying to his fellow JWs about his Daughter being in the University just because he wants no one to know about it. So, what the JW males do is they don't bother to go for those trashy titles and the Cult is suffering from the lack of interest of JW males going for these positions because Elders and ministerial servants keep the Cult running. Only Oversabi JW males that love bossing people around go for such Titles. Without them, the JW religion does not exist! They are even begging their males to reach out for these positions. The sensible JW males know its all bullshit, so, they remain floor member JWs and take their kids to University. Do you know this?
I expect this rubbish should wake JWs up from their slumber to see their Cult for what it truly is but the demonic influence on these people is strong. I remember when my father was stepped down simply because my brother was in school, he and other elders and ministerial servants were stepped down, did you know what some JWs were saying? They were cursing out the Circuit Overseer and said Satan is in the organisation. I don't know how you can know that Satan is in this Cult yet you don't want to leave. An Elder whom they planned to step down decided to resign his membership altogether because he saw the Cult for what it is, A Business Corporation. That's how to do it!

No wahala

johnw47:
so called jw
changing and falsifying my own post just adds to your lying:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Okay na.

johnw47:
so called jw
some hours earlier you falsified my post
and now you say that to courz

How that one take concern you Mr Trio?

I said "stop the editing", I didn't say I never editted his post.

Emusan stay your lane na.

[quote author=Courz post=114026933][/quote]Stop the editing.
Stay on your lane. No be by force.
I'm happy to be studying with JWs.

Madman don see person wey pass am bwahahahaha

Courz:
I'm an idiot

I know

MaxInDHouse:
Sarcasm at times is best for him!
If someone believe that Jesus' first century followers whom he strictly warned never to allow anything divide them later became racists and even criticizing themselves and never settled it before they die.
What else can one do than silence which is the best answer?

That's it sir

Emusan:
I know you can't say a word

How did you know that

MaxInDHouse:
Let him continue deceiving himself, his lies has been exposed: OLAADEGBU, Emusan and johnw47 belongs to the same person he's just switching accounts!

I no dispute am.

johnw47:
I'm Emusan the Trio.

I know already.

Emusan:
But there was racism and other atrocities among them when Jesus chooses them bah and the same people who are racists then are now part of Jesus heavenly ruling

I didn't say anything

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool
so called jw's, you both getting more paranoid like your devil in these end times
as scripture foretold:
2Ti_3:2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
@bold see how describes you especially maxin
+ paranoia is of the devil and of course unholy

Emusan, johnw47, OLAADEGBU, Mr Trio how far na

Mr Trio don meet person wey pass am

Steep:
Just as righteousness and joy will be in heaven, righteousness and joy being in heaven does not make heaven figurative.
Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
so the fact that death will be thrown into the lake of fire does not make it to be figurative.

Show me the slighlightest insinuations that and death will be tormented even if it is not word for word?

The fact that humans, Satan, etc will be thrown in the lake of fire to get tormented should give you what your are asking.

Why would hell and death be thrown into lake of fire if not to get tormented?

Death is a real phenomenon that would have its end in the lake of fire.

Is death a conscious being that could get tormented in fire?
Is hell also a being that could feel pain when thrown into fire?

AntiChristian:
And it's more corruption to know that Paul's books became popular even before any of the Gospels.

Your God supports human sacrifice aka Yahoo plus! That's not in Islam.

Except God didn't use his son sacrifice to get wealthy but to save mankind.
God didn't even literally killed Jesus.

What's the difference between human and animal sacrifice?
If you say our God is a ritualist, definitely your Allah is a ritualist too.

Open the songs of Solomon and count the number of times breast was mentioned. This is corruption.

How's that corruption?

God supports human sacrifice. That's corruption!

Your Allah support animal sacrifice, what's the difference?

Paul who never met Jesus in his lifetime wrote more books than all the 11 disciples altogether. That's super corruption!

How exactly?

Steep:
Answer the question and stop fidgeting here and there, where was it written that hell and death would be tormented?
Sinners and the devils would be tormented eternally but not hell and death.
Death is not just abstract same with hell.

I already answered you.

It was not written word for word that hell and death will both be tormented but it's explicitly seen from the book of revelations that Satan, the false prophet, those that worship the beast, hell, death etc will be thrown into the same lake of fire.

So why would hell a lifeless and unconscious entity be thrown into the lake of fire?
Also why would death which is abstract be thrown into the lake of fire?

When did/will people start burning in hell fire?
Is hell fire the same as lake of fire?

AntiChristian:
Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. Qur'an 6 vs 162

The Sacrifice is obligatory on who is able to do it. And we don't believe the Sacrifice is to take away our sins like your Jesus.

The reason you do it is not my problem.
Your god is definitely a ritualist if he really accepts sacrifice of ram as you admitted here.
You even supported it with a Qur'an verse.

You beliefs actually doesn't matter to real Christians. We know how Jehovah God moved with Moses and how he gave him instructions on many things including the sacrifice for sin through animals. That actually goes along with Jesus sacrifice which is once and for all.

Something that is corrupted can still have some good in it. And where did you see me finding name of Prophet in your Bible?

How are you able to distinguish between the corrupted verses and the one not corrupted?
Which device are you using for that?

AntiChristian:
I am only telling you the truth! How will you believe God performed a ritual with his son just to save other humans?
This doesn't make sense!
God is not a murderer, ritualist,...
I think you're the one Paul was referring to in Galatians 3:1.

Why do you guys adopt Abraham's sacrifice of ram?
Who are you sacrificing it to

Didn't the Israelites and Moses sacrifice animals to God according to his instructions?

Grow up from you hypocrisy.

You can't eat you cake and have it.
You guys say the Bible was written by human and corrupted but are still desperate to find the name of your prophet in the Bible.

AntiChristian:
You're wrong! You only follow your destiny whether you like it or not.
The amount of food you'll eat before you die is known to Allah.

I don't think so. I don't believe in your Allah and the food I eat is determined by me not anybody.

Those that are the market begging for food and are homeless, did you Allah predestined them to live like that?

Wise up.

*What will be the food for the people in Hell?*


No food will there be for them but a bitter Dhari S. 88:6 Y. Ali

Nor hath he any food except the foul pus from the washing of wounds, S. 69:36 Y. Ali

Obviously, both kinds of ‘food’ are chosen to evoke a feeling of horror when thinking about Hell. However, the contradiction is in the double claim that this or that will be the only food, i.e.

No food except Dhari (88:6).
No food except foul pus (69:36).

There is yet another passage that is relevant to this discussion:

Is that the better entertainment or the Tree of Zaqqum?
For We have truly made it (as) a trial for the wrong-doers.
For it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-Fire:
The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils:
Truly they will eat thereof and fill their bellies therewith.
Then on top of that they will be given a mixture made of boiling water.
Then shall their return be to the (Blazing) Fire. S. 37:62-68 Y. Ali; cf. 56:52

So which food exactly are people going to eat in hell?
Is the Qur'an free of discrepancies?
Mohammed is fraud.

AntiChristian:
Not trustworthy at all!
It contains the word of God, Angels, Prophets, wise men, Historian, Disciples, fools, etc.

The Bible no be Koran mate.

*There are conflicting views on who takes the souls at death.*

Sura 32:11 reads "Say: *THE Angel of Death*, put in charge over you, will (duly) take your souls. Then shall ye be brought back to your Lord", i.e. on specific angel is in view.

Sura 47:27 says "But how (will it be) when *THE angels* take their souls at death?", which again presupposes their specific identity and a greater number than one.

But then Sura 39:42 doesn't speak of angels anymore at all: "It is *Allah* that takes the souls (of men) at death."

You guys sure say na a all wise God wrote the Qur'an? No a clown

Instead of you guys to figure out the errors and contradictions in your book first. Your here arguing about the Bible?

AntiChristian:
So what has he declared to you since?
Assuming you guys have Holy spirit truly, pastors won't be losing elections up and down.
Now pastors are sending churchgoers away because they don't have PVC.
It seems your prayers no dey work again!

Lol. É be like say you like this preciousgirl.
Christians are to be politically neutral.
Holy spirit was active during the time of the early church as promised by Jesus.
Paul prophesied that the gift of the holy spirit will cease when the Bible (Revelations) are complete.

Preciousgirl:
Is it true that virgins are reserved for faithful Muslims in the Islamic paradise after they die?
And that this Is in sura 55?
Educate me

Sex in heaven is the reward for Muslim men.

Steep:
Simple, it is stated that the devil and all who recieve the mark of the beast would be tormented in the lake of fire.
The lake of fire is not symbolical.
Jude compared the fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah to Judgment in the future.
Which of means one thing that the lake of fire is real just as the fire that destroy Sodom and Gomorrah was real otherwise Jude wouldn't have compared it. However, while Sodom and Gomorrah did not suffer eternal torment in the eternal fire, sinners will suffer eternal torment in the lake of fire.
But where was it written that death and hell will be tormented?

It was not written word for word that hell and death will both be tormented but it's explicitly seen from the book of revelations that Satan, the false prophet, those that worship the beast, hell, death etc will be thrown into the same lake of fire.

You see that I have answered your question already.

So why would hell a lifeless and unconscious entity be thrown into the lake of fire?
Also why would death which is abstract be thrown into the lake of fire?

When did/will people start burning in hell fire?
Is hell fire the same as lake of fire?