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MaxInDHouse:
Most of you guys do profess faith in Jesus of Nazareth but when issues having to do with his teachings comes up you quickly trash his sayings! Matthew 15:7-8
Today Russian citizens whose sons and daughters have died in the war are crying and protesting against their own government. So who is deceiving who?
My friend the problem is politicians deceiving you people making you feel they're fighting for your good whereas all they're interested in is their ambitions.
Russia annexed Ukraine, Ukraine annexed Russia. What's the business of a true disciple of Christ whose mind is focused on God's Kingdom? Matthew 5:38-42
Please there's no problem as long as God's Kingdom is yet to come all human governments are evil whether they speak your mother tongue or Ànàgó!

Mikee19:
Now over to you. Respond to my earlier comment as I've now responded to yours.

To respond to this u asked, here, the King James translators used a particular manuscript that it appeared in, but this manuscript is a later manuscript. It doesn't appear in the earlier ones, so it's safe to translate it without the words used in King James, because earlier manuscripts don't have it. But note that King James translators ACTUALLY SAW IT in the manuscript they used; they didn't invent it from nothing. But because the earlier manuscripts don't have it that way it's better to not include it in a translation (that's why more recent translations exclude it). Everyone knows it's a weak way to defend trinity..

You see, I can never use such scripture to defend trinity. I won't even use John 1:1. In fact, I will use the New World Translation of the JWs to prove trinity right in anyone's face! Because I know it's the truth of God's word. I can use anything. It'll remain the same.

Jokerman:
Only a very very top angel can have to effontery to rebel and make war in heaven.
Yes, the Father is superior to the son... no arguments here

Mikee19:
You asked ME? ? ? WHERE? ? ?
Pls always know who you address. You never asked me any question I didn't answer. If you know you did pls link to it. This is such a simple question, why would I avoid it?
Also, ppl are at liberty to not respond to everything they see. m sure u know this. There are so many things a person thinks of on his own, than to answer everything they see esp if you don't call them directly. Next time pls don't say stuff like this again unless u actually ask me!
Second, it takes a lot to type. It also takes an honest heart to read it all, if one really wants to be sure of what they know. It's not too huge a price to pay to read a lot if u know u don't know it all and your salvation may be at stake, no matter what.
To respond to this u asked, here, the King James translators used a particular manuscript that it appeared in, but this manuscript is a later manuscript. It doesn't appear in the earlier ones, so it's safe to translate it without the words used in King James, because earlier manuscripts don't have it. But note that King James translators ACTUALLY SAW IT in the manuscript they used; they didn't invent it from nothing. But because the earlier manuscripts don't have it that way it's better to not include it in a translation (that's why more recent translations exclude it). Everyone knows it's a weak way to defend trinity...
You see, I can never use such scripture to defend trinity. I won't even use John 1:1. In fact, I will use the New World Translation of the JWs to prove trinity right in anyone's face! Because I know it's the truth of God's word. I can use anything. It'll remain the same.
Now over to you. Respond to my earlier comment as I've now responded to yours.

Jokerman:
1. You have no proof of this.
2. Archangel Michael isn't the express "word" of God
3. So what role was lucifer in heaven before he rebelled? Remember, no ordinary angel could have the effontery to rebelled against God.

MaxInDHouse:
How can the one who has been in eternity be rightly called the "firstborn of all creations"? Colossians 1:15
Common sense should tell that the firstborn can't be excluded from the rest of creations because it's part of it.
No wonder Jesus said to Mary Magdalene:
"I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17
Jesus was created in the beginning of creation {Proverb 8:22} only God has no beginning!

Mikee19:
I wish i can have just 2hrs discussion with u. U are already throwing stuff u have no idea about. Who removed what? You have proof of this? You are turning out to be just like the others who say things they don't know for sure, except that one organization told them this.
Can you provide evidence for this claim? Does there exist ANY MANUSCRIPT IN THE WORLD where the name "Jehovah" exists in the New Testament ( "Greek scriptures" ) , or even the tetragrammation, and it was removed and replaced with "Lord"? No, you cannot, because it doesn't exist
Several thousands of manuscript have come down to us, not single one backs up this claim! Can you access the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses? Surely u can see that in the Greek "Lord" is what appears, NOT anything else?
Moreso do u know the real implication of this claim? That right under God's "nose" in preserving his written word, somebody somewhere can come and change it, or a part of it, without leaving any traces? Such that ALL THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD don't contain the word "Jehovah" in any form, tetragrammation inclusive, and God cannot prevent that? How then are you sure he can prevent anybody else from making any other changes to his word if he cannot prevent that from happening? Heck, how do u know no other part of the Bible has been changed undetected again? You have NO way of knowing! It's either God can protect his word from being changed, or he cannot. You are really claiming God CANNOT protect his word from alteration. He cannot keep it from being changed. It is God's power you're really challenging!
Be careful the things u say. God can protect his word. This is an unfounded JW claim that attacks the power of God. On the one hand they claim they can trust his word because he can preserve it without alteration. Then turn right around to say, "yes he can but only this one he couldn't". Don't throw such slap in the face of God. He preserved his word unaltered.

Emusan:
They removed the name yet you know about it today, how come?
Is there sense in that?
But the same people coined the name in which you even identify your organization with now
So your gullibility is raised to power 10
See ignoramus in display.
Go and read about FORMULATION OF THE WORD JEHOVAH, so that you'll know the difference between TRANSLITERATION and FORMULATION

But they formulated the divine name you know today as Jehovah
When I say you people are olodo and ignorance to the Word of God you'll think it's a joke.
Just imagine Jesus was "COINED TOO"

Emusan:
Five years old thinking and reason can't erase the fact that Catholic coined the name Jehovah

Emusan:
That's nice! The thing pained him
I'm no more a Deeper Life buy Roman Catholic.
Don't forget you're also indirectly a Roman Catholic since you accept their coined word "Jehovah"
You're even more Roman Catholic than I do

achorladey:
You should be smart enough to know the UNREASONABLENESS in that, at least you go school to learn and defend things that you don't believe or exist for academic purpose or certifications

achorladey:
Smart people that upper part of their lips says
I am yet to be a Jehovah’s witness this morning
and later in the day
The lower part of their lips says
I am a Jehovah’s witness.
Smart people that can distinguish between TITLES and NAME
Na people indeed born smart people like you wey go insult and name dumb people only to come back and apologize
Awon smart people la n pe yin.

achorladey:
Which thread exactly?
Go back to your trinity thread.
Awon I never intend to have discussion with you.

achorladey:
Their usual mode of operation starts with

achorladey:
Sooooo? and seriously?
Starting to jump from pillar to post. Awon cruiser wey no want DISCUSSION.
Oya change mouth again
Go back to that your thread and read from A to Z.

achorladey:
Sooooo? and seriously?
Starting to jump from pillar to post. Awon cruiser wey no want DISCUSSION.
Oya change mouth again

achorladey:
I forgot you use your COULD which of course is a two way street.
1. proper discussion
2. Here to CRUISE

achorladey:
Na your one liners dey hook you as your finding it difficult to respond

achorladey:
Now he wants a proper discussion. The one I had with you on your thread over trinity is called............ discussion.
Rather than face reality- JESUS he is chasing shadows. Face light wey no get variation dump shadow for one side.

achorladey:
Hooked

achorladey:
Your directly and indirectly a Jehovah's witness yourself ORGANIZATION members whether you accept or not. Since you believe in their man-made uninspired doctrines as your darling governing body said that they
Are uninspired and infallible they err and make mistakes in doctrines and organizational direction.. You believe what they teach you. Correct or deny?
A case of pot calling kettle BLACK.
Learn ko to maa wa Eni to n ti enu aja bo igbe

achorladey:
Let's rephrase
Who established the ORGANIZATION doctrine?
A) Jesus and his apostles
B) Watchtower WTBTS
C) I'm ignorant and brainwashed
I like this options ehn
You go show ORGANIZATION for BIBLE word for word as you want make them show you TRINITY word for word.

Emusan:
You called someone a "Roman Catholic Trinitarian" yet you still ask which DENOMINATION he belong?
Na wa ooooo
See the level of damage Watchtower has caused in your life

GoodIsGod:
Guy you are still swimming in the ocean of ignorance. I am a Christian Yes,I am. But did I tell you I am a Catholic? Why should you rant and conclude I am.
This is the wrong notion that you all were trained with by Watchtower.
You group everyone that is not a member of your sect together as one.
It is pride and holier than thou attitude that is the virus that has eaten deep into you.
You believe every one that calls himself or herself a Christian belongs to the same church or denomination.
I have come to understand that engaging a Jehovah's witness in argument is a mere waste of time and energy. So I might not respond to you anymore.
Lack of the freedom to think individually is your problem. Watchtower is still holding the remote.
It's So sad.
Sorry, Ive got better things to do.

GoodIsGod:
Brainwashed Watchtower Zombie.
You have been programed by your operators at New York to believe that anyone who is not a Jehovah's Witness that is a Christian has same beliefs with every other person that calls themselves a Christian.
It is true many are not christians that call themselves christians but a functional brain that is not remotely controlled by a group of persons would not group everyone that is not a member of their weird association together.
In a nutshell, you don't know my beliefs as a Christian. So, don't make conclusions foolishly.
Sorry for the foolishly it's not meant to insult you though.

achorladey:
What you called the WORST TRANSLATION is what your RELIGIOUS LEADERS and ORGANIZATION called the leading translation that help strengthen your FAITH and a prove that the WORD of GOD ENDURE FOREVER.
Awon reducing and oxidising someone's IQ crew check the below screenshot to LEVEL UP your IQ
King James version na your mate. In the committee of BIBLES known all over the world, NWT don't come close to KJV . That copy you called the WORST TRANSLATION can be found in every corner of your religious organization even on their apps and other electronic devices

GoodIsGod:
You are not only stupid but you are as well thinking insane also. As "imperfect" as the king James was, that was what you guys were using before you manufactured your own bible which came into being not long. (80s or 90s)
Were you part of the Watchtower team that translated the New world version? No.
Do you have the original scripts of the scriptures in the original language or have access to their copies? No.
It is what they told you and gave you that you are defending.
People who have indoctrinated you with all manner of beliefs. What do you expect them to do but to bend the bible to comform with all the lies and guesses they have thought you?
They come up with new "discoveries" every day.
Jesus is Angel Michael. What does that have to do with salvation of a soul? Irrelevant guesses. .
They hold the remote of your brains in their New York building dishing out all manner of instructions to you world over.
It is your choice anyways, and I would not have talked about it if you guys were not arrogantly calling other christians names. You won't mind your business. Why don't you face your 144,000 discoveries and mind your business.
21st century Pharisees.

You don't have the reasoning of your own. You are like robots in the hands of watchtower.