tctrills:
Thanks for your contribution, well received.

Janosky:


The furious, DUBIOUS Courz made FALSE claims of Freemason & JWs, did Templee333 ever said he saw anything Masonic in our kingdom Halls or places of worship?

NEVER !
Courz is infinitely connected to delusion than reality.

tctrills:

I know you guys have a rule not to be involved in any way with formal members but I am happy you braved it even if it means breaking the rule. This makes the discussion balanced and fair.

Courz:


At the bolded, do you know why JWs are to avoid ExJWs?

Courz:


You are not allowed to disagree with the JWs. You can see that now! Similar trait inherited from Watchtower.

Courz:


Let me explain how Watchtower works in the brain of a JW.

A JW reads a verse and finds that this verse contradicts their beliefs. Watchtower says, "who are you to make conclusions on what you read? Do you know better than us? We are the Faithful Slave giving you spiritual food at the proper time. How can you depend on your own understanding? You cannot rely on your thoughts. Your thoughts are Faulty. Don't you know critical and independent thinking is demonic and a tool of Satan? Trust us as you Trust God. Wait on Jehovah and let him sort out or correct matters on his own. Don't bother to think. Let us do the thinking for you. "

If you are this JW, you will wait forever!



The above scenario is known as Mind Control. Google it.

tctrills:
Nope tell me.

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 5:1-13. 2 John 1:9-11.
Avoid unrepentant wrong-doers because a little leaven ferments the whole lump.

Templee333:
THE CELESTIAL CHARIOT
The GB of JW often apply Ezekiel chp.1 to their organization moving in response to divine spirit.Thus,their organization needs changes frm time to time.The NWT has been revised & its text edited many times since it's first released. Their song book has been changed & unchanged & rechanged many times. Their Watchtower & Awake! & the "Our Kingdom Ministry" & many other publications has been changed & bear different names many times.When their leaders realize how absurd some of their publications are,they replace it with new ones & stop using the faulty ones. Some of their old publications carry messages that are directly opposite of what they publish today. All these owe to the movement of Ezekiel's celestial chariot. Thanks to the chariot!

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 5:1-13. 2 John 1:9-11.
Avoid unrepentant wrong-doers because a little leaven ferments the whole lump.

tctrills:

That way, you should avoid the entire world.

tctrills:
Nope tell me.

Janosky:

Jehovah is a CHANGER, His servants must change what is necessary or needed to change.
Even kumuyi said those who complain & throw tantrums because of CHANGES ,them no get SENSE, "they are speaking from undeveloped minds"

zoer:

Is there a BETTER replacement for JW?

Courz:


For the Love amongst JWs, I have discussed on it. You can go back to my previous comments.

As for marrying amongst themselves, it is a rule of Watchtower. As a JW, you must marry a fellow JW. If you plan on marrying a non JW, Elders will discourage you against it. If you go ahead to marry this person and you have a family that is JW, None of them will attend your wedding including your fellow JWs! You will be marked! What that means is a Marking Talk in the Kingdom Hall will be given discouraging marrying outside JW and it will be given in such a way that JWs will know you are the one they are talking about in that talk. So, If you are the subject of a Marking talk, it is best not to go to the Kingdom Hall that day because of the kind of Judgemental looks you will get. You will pray for the grouund to swallow you up. JWs are extremely Judgemental! You will also be looked down on as Spiritually weak unless you are rich.

So, it is never out of Love for themselves that they marry themselves. It is because it is Mandatory to do so and there are consequences for doing otherwise.

Janosky:

Your total disconnect from the scriptures is luminous.
Better still, your total disconnect from reality is fantastic, coming from the same DUBIOUS Courz intertwined to delusion.

From the old to new testament, were Jehovah's servants permitted to marry outside the Faith?
No !
Courz DUBIOUS Furious man who has accused JWs of not aspiring to riches don change tune again.
Do you respect what you disdain?
No.
JWs don't worship Mammon.
Mammon worship na pastorpreneurs format.

Among JWs,Nobody gives anyone "judgemental looks" for failing to stick to Bible standards.
When you fall short of Jehovah's standards, you know say you no do well,no be person go tell you,abi you no get conscience ?

Janosky:

Among JWs,Nobody gives anyone "judgemental looks" for failing to stick to Bible standards. When you fall short of Jehovah's standards, you know say you no do well,no be person go tell you,abi you no get conscience ?

Templee333:

you might not really understand JW except u pass through it. Even JW who aren't faithful members of the organization still hardly understand it.Only most devoted members know how terribly bad it is when they are honest enough to admit it. But unfortunately, an active member often closes his reasoning ability & deny reality in other to continue his race for life in the one & only true religion.

Does a scorned, furious man give an honest, undiluted appraisal of his ex?
Never!

In your opening post, you claimed JWs were in your own words, "brainwashed" for not eating Christmas rice.
On the basis of Mark 6:14-21, Jesus was in the City of King Herod's birthday party.
Janosky asked Templee333, would Jesus Christ & the disciples children eat the food & drinks of King Herod's birthday party?
Which disciple children eat Jesus birthday food and drinks?

Templee333 no fit answer

JWs are more in tune with reality and the holy scriptures than you,Templee333 would honestly admit.

Your claim is unfortunate and very baseless.

MaxInDHouse:

Do you know how we were trained to figure out suspects among the innocent?
Well we ask some of our guys to put on uniforms though we're supposed to dress like civilians but with the uniform of the law enforcement agents defaulters will become uncomfortable so easily we will just start picking them up for questioning.

So how do you expect a willful sinner to feel free in the midst of faithful people?
Even ordinarily greeting at the kingdom hall will become a problem because they're feeling that through discussion with you you may find out something they're hiding. That's when all eyes from right, left, front, back and center becomes "JUDGMENTAL LOOKS"

Courz:


Very true. In order for active JWs to make sense of the religion and continue in it, they have switch off that part of the brain that is responsible for critical thinking and questioning. Watchtower frowns against questioning and teaches JWs to learn to ignore reality to preserve their Faith in the religion. JWs are trained psychologically to make excuses for Watchtower's failures. Faith in the religion is Number One. This is why Watchtower is against Higher Education/University. Anything that makes a JW to question must be shut down immediately and flushed out from the brain. A JW has to make several twists and turns in his brain in order to justify Watchtower's doctrines and policies. This is how the brain of a JW works.

MaxInDHouse:


So how do you expect a willful sinner to feel free in the midst of faithful people?
Even ordinarily greeting at the kingdom hall will become a problem because they're feeling that through discussion with you you may find out something they're hiding. That's when all eyes from right, left, front, back and center becomes "JUDGMENTAL LOOKS"

Janosky:

COURZ SYMPTOMS OF INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.

Janosky:

Courz infinitely connected to delusion.
Did Courz open a thread on Nairaland disagreeing with JWs?

Very DUBIOUS COURZ.



COURZ DUBIOUS DELUSIONAL CONJECTURE.

For COURZ mind, DUBIOUSNESS na "critical thinking"

Courz:


It is indeed. Now, in order for some JWs to maintain their sanity while in the Cult since they can't leave without consequences, they decide to be Fair weather JWs or Fade. They are Physically in the Cult but mentally Out of it. They do some of what they want regardless of the rules and Know how to cover their tracks.
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Courz:


They attend University and aim higher for higher degrees and have absolutely no interest in Positions in the religion.
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Courz:


They don't always attend the meetings/Kingdom Hall. They don't take the doctrines seriously. They only come on special occasions like the Memorial of Christ's death, conventions. After that, you won't see them again. They marry who they want. Let's face it. We are Humans and we need rules but Authoritarian way of control will definitely breed Rebels and not every JW will follow through.

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Janosky:

1Corinthians 5:9-13, please read, study and get the sense of it in a lucid way.
God bless.


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"I wrote to you in my letter not to associate(N) with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world(O) who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c](P) but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater(Q) or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.(R)

12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside(S) the church? Are you not to judge those inside?(T) 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”[

Courz:

Another Exhibit up here. Readers, do you see this statement above? This is the typical JW. Remember, I said JWs are Extremely Judgemental. This fellow describes a JW that marries outside the Cult as a Willful Sinner. At least, you all are seeing what we are talking about here. You can have a very good heart or personality but go against the unreasonable rules of Watchtower, you are a Sinner. And be rest assured that this fellow will shun you like a Murderer.

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse.

Janosky:

"Cover your tracks" of unrepentant wrong doing & lawlessness from Jehovah God?
Hebrews 4:13 & Galatians 6:7 no dey Courz deluded mind and it's even missing from Courz own Bible.



Schooling no dey make anybody lawless & "cover their tracks of unrepentant wrong doing.
Na wicked heart dey shut
All the LIES and DELUSION dey inside Courz disconnected from reality.

JWs dey go school wella.
Campus Congregation dey where school dey.

tctrills:

9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
These verses did not teach us to stop relating to formal members but we understand where you are coming from

MaxInDHouse:


And thanks for misconstruing the whole thing!
An unrepentant wrongdoers is one who vowed to live his life in harmony with the rules set up in a society, before making a pledge you must have studied all the rules of the society first so that by the time you break any of the rules your own conscience supposed to be the judge not someone else!
For instance, as a Nigerian most of you do say:

"i pledge to Nigeria my country, to be faithful loyal and honest, to serve Nigeria with all my strength, to defend her unity and uphold her honour and glory, so help me God"

With this alone millions are bringing a curse upon the nation!

WHY?


So if you're not ready to become a bona fide member of any community why swearing an oath?
Jehovah's Witnesses organization will spend months with any interested person studying the scriptures and noting all what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus COMMANDED {Matthew 28:19-20} please if you're not ready to live your life in harmony with all these rules why do you make a vow? Luke 9:62
No wonder Jesus referred to people like as WORKERS of LAWLESSNESS/ INIQUITY! Matthew 7:23

Janosky:

Emphasis on verses 9-11, pertaining to your question.
Verses 9-11, AVOID, STAY AWAY from the brother or sister practicing the immoral sinful life ,hiding it & unrepentant.

Verse 12:
Jehovah's servants would be judged for immoral, licentious living conflicting with God's standards.
Individuals outside the faith, their immoral way of life is not our business.

Verse 13.
Expel, REMOVE the wicked wrong doer from your midst.

Courz:


Another Exhibit. Readers, look at his first response in firat paragraph. This guy is still all over the place. He knows people like this exist. And he is among JWS that shun or look down on them. He is actually angry that he is here busting his a55 for Watchtower while othera are living their lives freely against their rules. Hence, the hateful comment.

Look at the 2nd paragraph of his comment. A bunch of incoherent crap, isn't it?

Now look at his 3 rd paragraph. He knows that the Watchtower rule against University is embarrassing. In fact, JWs never tell people about this. But in his case, he defends Unserious JWs that go against Watchtower rules of education. This guy is obviously confused. He forgets that Elders and Ministerial servants are removed from their posts if they go against Watchtower in this. But deep down, he disagrees with Watchtower in this. And guess what? He can't open his mouth in the Kingdom hall to oppose this rule. In fact, JWs are one of the most confused people. Hence his comment.

Thanks Janosky.

tctrills:

Well, it's one thing to be practicing immorality and another thing to disagree with your religious position.

Janosky:

Emphasis on verses 9-11, pertaining to your question.
Verses 9-11, AVOID, STAY AWAY from the brother or sister practicing the immoral sinful life ,hiding it & unrepentant.

Verse 12:
Jehovah's servants would be judged for immoral, licentious living conflicting with God's standards.
Individuals outside the faith, their immoral way of life is not our business.

Verse 13.
Expel, REMOVE the wicked wrong doer from your midst.

them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

These verses did not teach us to stop relating to formal members but we understand where you are coming from