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Vaselinelord:
pla don't quote me if you don't know how blockchain works

Don’t also make spurious claims if you don’t know how American federal agencies conduct investigations into cybercrime. Blockchain or cryptocurrency can never be used as a bulwark against FBI investigators. The only ways the FBI may find it more difficult to retrieve stolen funds is if you are based in China or Russia and you make use of some government-censored platforms. Do you even know how blockchain came into use? The same FBI agents that usually hack into iPhones that even Apple claims it cannot unlock as the producer?

Let Hush Puppi and his gang own 1 trillion bitcoin wallets, the FBI will crack into each and everyone of them like a hot knife going through butter. They only need just one transaction ID or an email linked to Hush Puppi or whatever and they will access everything from the day they could only afford to purchase bottled water online. These are some of the things we study in Cybersecurity.

Vaselinelord:
even me that am not a fraudsters i can hide money wey fbi no go see imagine Liquidating your assets to btc not even cia can retrieve that

https://dailypost.ng/2020/07/06/hushpuppi-15-3m-stolen-by-woodberry-from-us-companies-may-not-be-recovered-fbi-hints/

Lol. Many of you people don’t even follow tech news.

Google Ross Albricht. He had over 20million BTC at the time of the arrest. FBI, DEA and Secret Service recovered it all.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/25/fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulbricht-alleged-owner-of-silk-road/amp/


There are way more notorious hackers whose bitcoin wallets have been intruded by the FBI.
You think you can use American platforms to defraud Americans and the FBI won’t retrieve every dime from you? Do some research Ogbeni.

crazygod:
American police follow the rule of Law. They can't torture anybody like Nigerian police. Except you be terrorist wey set up bombs everywhere

You people watch too much of Hollywood movies. FBI has ways of torturing people who defraud Americans. They are even worse than SARS when it comes to dealing with criminals.

seanwilliam:
Elder0001, I have known you from time immemorial....and I hold u in high esteem as per your sense of reasoning and contribution on nairaland...

You attacked me by saying I'm glorifying scam, I no vex...

I simply asked you to prove it if scam is only Nigeria thing..I asked how sure are you .. now you throwing back the question to me. This clearly shows you are not sure of what you posted..


Your use of "anyhow" as bolded means those countries scam too.. but the reason for that is what neither me nor you are sure of..

Ogbeni, stop justifying and glorifying crime. If you have ever traveled outside of Nigeria, you will realize that no African country has the shameful reputation Nigeria has for cybercrime. Haven’t you heard of the Nigerian Prince stereotype before? Have you ever seen any of such stereotype for Zimbabweans, Somalians, Sudanese or any other country that is way worse than Nigeria?

People like you that try to justify the activities of those useless Yahoo Boys - who will all die miserable deaths are part of the problem. Those boys are ruining things for innocent and honest Nigerians.

Deltayankeeboi:
You will keep on crying. Yahoo will continue.

Use this same energy you have against innocent YahooBoys, hit the streets and protest against bad governance.

Leave yahoo boys alone, they are not the cause of your problems.

You are a disgrace and you and your fellow Yahoo boys will all die miserable deaths for bringing us this shame. Is Nigeria the only country with bad governance in the world? If it’s about bad governance, why do you fools get to countries like US, Dubai, UK and the likes and still go ahead to scam people instead of working - since you are now in a country that works?

You all are bunch of greedy idiots who want to ride Benz and live lavishly off the sweat of innocent people but you will all end up in prison and die miserably. To hell with all of you and your enablers.

Elder0001:
I posted something about fraud on my WhatsApp status sometime ago and yahooguys on my contact list were telling me that politicians are the cause of fraud lol. That Interpol and the rest should arrest politicians and leave yahooboys alone,I was like you’re right about government not trying but the innocent people you guys are defrauding are they responsible for the bad governance in this country? No. So,if they’re so eager to scam they should scam the politicians that messed up the country not innocent foreigners.
Because of the activities of these fraudsters foreigners don’t trust Nigerians anymore. You’ll go through unwarranted and unnecessary checks at airports just because you’re a Nigerian while other folks from countries like South Africa won’t be checked.
If you tell these guys to stop engaging in fraud they’ll say you’re hating or jealous
Talking about bad governance,is Nigeria the only country with bad governance in the world? Venezuela and Zimbabwe e.t.c are countries with bad governance yet their citizens don’t go about scamming innocent foreigners because of the situation in their country.

Most Nigerians just have a criminal and get rich quick mentality and this has nothing to do with the state of governance in the country because most of them take this same disgusting mentality to countries with good governance e.g USA and Canada.

Brother, God will bless you for this comment. I’ve met people from Yemen, Somalia, Zimbabwe and other countries that are way worse than Nigeria but these people don’t have the criminal get rich quick mentality of many Nigerians. Yahoo boys are idi.ots who are only using bad governance as an excuse. Why did Invictus and Hush Puppi not hustle legitimately after they left Naija? See, if you take all these Lagos yahoo boys to the US, give them jobs that pay a living wage, they will still look for means to defraud people. There are many of such people in US feds prisons as we speak. Why? The problem is not poverty or wanting to survive. It’s the impatient urge to buy Benz, live a life of luxury and enjoy things that are ephemeral. They only lie about bad governance - take them to Apple - give them jobs - they will never want to live on their salaries but still think of how they will defraud the company.

Those guys are a shame and disgrace to Nigeria. I cannot even introduce myself as a Nigerian without people thinking I’m a fraudster. Yahoo boys will die a miserable death! Nonsense.

EmekaBlue:
where he dey hide d money...abi na swiss bank wey dey help dodge fraud

una dey laff hushpuppi...watchout after serving few years. America will convert him to it's citizen and help work at d interpol

From ikorodu to riches to prison then to an american working class citizen

Stop fooling yourself. He will be deported after his term in jail.

DuBLINGreenb:
I am not justifying fraud, Hushpuppi did wrong by not stopping on time, by not diversifying or doing something else, he got greedy and comfortable with what he was doing it had worked too many times so he always assumed it would work forever big mistake on his part.

Who told you those guys doing legit work, if they knew how to scan they wouldn't be into fraud already? Who told you if they got into public office they won't loot funds.

The reason they remain in scam is that they get too comfortable, they see it as the only way out they have probably tried and failed at many things and the one thing they succeeded at they decide to stick to it SIMPLE

I'm ashamed! So to you now, Hush Puppi is only wrong because he scammed for too long and not because he even scammed just one person? Even if it's just one person, what is wrong, is wrong! You people should stop normalizing or justifying what is wrong.
Here in the US, doing BEC or credit card fraud is not rocket science but most of us still choose to stay away from crime because it's evil to ruin the lives of others to ”better” yours. Life does not work that way. Like I said earlier, my cousin that currently lives in Dubai worked as a cleaner for almost a year before getting a job with one of the Dubai Future IT Tech firms there. Can he hack? Yes! He has higher degrees in Computer Engineering & Cybersecurity from schools in Seattle. He left the US for Dubai because he could not get a good company to file for his green card -partly because he is a Nigerian and IT companies don't really trust Nigerians with their cyberinfrastructure again because of those yahoo yahoo idiots who will die miserable deaths and their greedy enablers who think defrauding even one person is right.

The fact that some people are looting or defrauding people does not make it right. See, when I first arrived in the US - I worked a small job that paid only $9 per hour to survive. That could barely even feed me very well - I skipped meals and stuff but I was contented. There are Nigerians who are currently in US feds prisons who after arriving here got jobs that pay $40 per hour(they came on visa lottery). Yet, they were not contented or patient - they went into credit card fraud because they wanted to quickly buy Benz, wear expensive stuff, build houses in Nigeria and live like Hush Puppi. Now, they are in prisons - their green cards may be revoked and they will be deported back to Nigeria with nothing after serving over 10years in feds prisons.

See, crime does not pay. I will rather work as a toilet cleaner, drink my Garri and sleep with my two eyes closed than to go into crime and end up being used as a poster boy by the FBI. I'm a true Yoruba boy and in my family ”a good name is better than ill-gotten riches”.
I buy what I can afford. I wear what I have. I LIVE WITHIN MY MEANS! I’M PATIENT!!!

kikero:
We are.

1.Tax per gdp ratio is 5.8 % (South Africa is 28%, Ghana 14%)

2.Our budget for this year was $26billion . For comparison SA spent $23 billion on education alone (Canada spent $65 billion on primary school education alone in one year).

3.GDP per capita for Nigeria ? $2028 . South Africa? $6734

We are not rich.

All of these are systemic failures. Nigeria has a larger GDP than South Africa. If Nigeria had great leadership, it's per capita indices will be better corruption has ruined the proper distribution of wealth and industrial development.

Adiwana:
Invictus was caught cause he used his main email as backup email to the email he uses to scam which was traced to the comments he made here on Nairaland where he gave out that same email address. Remember that Hushpuppy has been on this for years and was only started getting trailed just about 4 months ago. Would he have been caught even if he was underground?? Probably but been out in the open attracted the unwanted attention

Only Dubai police starting training him four months ago. If you check the FBI complaint in court, he has been under their radar since 2017.

sexylassie2:
Anti business Nigerian govt.

Dstv subs in Nigeria are the lowest in Africa.

So the only reason, they put the law was because of startimes a govt company.

They want to collect things for free without paying.

Socialist government, that is why this country will be forever poor.

Nigeria is not a poor country -GDP and revenue wise.

Ade3131:
Having read your post I feel it will be nice I say well-done to you. I wish this Hushpuppy's case and more like it will awaken the Nigerian state to the tickling time bomb OBJ has always cried about but ironically couldn't do anything about while in power. A country where a large chunk of the population is not gainfully employed, and are youths is surely sitting on a gunpowder.

Hush is just one out of the many Yahoo boiz we know. There's virtually no single Nigerian living in the city within age 18 to 40 who doesn't know a Yahoo boy or knows someone who knows a Yahoo boy. The statistics is alarming if you consider the numbers yet they're celebrated or spoken highly about due to the decadence in the system. Even worse is the fact that some parents scold their legitimate hardworking children who are struggling with the ups and downs of life just because the son of a neighbor down the street is driving flashy cars without any traceable source of wealth.

I pray the Nigerian youth could wake up to the most fundamental ask of a citizen - question your leaders and demand good leadership. Africans at large lags in this regard. It's hard to see where that's going to come from considering how divided we are as a people. Nigeria keeps churning out graduates year in year out without any tangible plan to absorb them into the workforce of the economy. How then will fraud and crime not thrive in such a society?

You see money-miss-road politicians who before venturing into politics had nothing to offer the economy, flaunting their overnight riches and you begin to wonder if an average Nigerian is okay in the head. Politics is so lucrative here that the country would borrow to fund budgets while our political class continue to be one of the best paid public office holders in the world.

Until we start demanding and pushing for good governance, unemployed and underemployed Nigerian youths will continue to consider crime as an alternative route to breaking the chain of poverty in their lineage.

Stop using anything to justify fraud. Nigeria is not the only country with bad or corrupt politicians. I know Nigerian politicians are heartless and useless but why did hush puppi not hustle legitimately despite being in a developed country? What about Invictus who found himself in the US but refused to hustle legitimately? I have friends in Dubai who worked as cleaners before getting good jobs there - why did they not go the route of Hush? . The issue here is greed and impatience. There are dozens of countries that are worse than Nigeria in every ramification but their citizens are not reputed for this nonsense image Nigerians now have all over the world. These guys have ruined so many opportunities for millions of Nigerians all across the world. People know that politicians in most parts of the world are scums - so if your country has corrupt politicians - people won't really use that to judge you unlike when your citizens have a history of notorious crimes. There are times abroad when I introduced myself as a Nigerian and the foreigners there all agreed that Nigerians are fraudsters based on the activities of these stupid yahoo boys. They think we are all dishonest people due to this whole nonsense yahoo boys that will all die a miserable death.
The problem is not just bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!

DuBLINGreenb:
Everybody does not need to be as rich as hushpuppi,

yes I never insinuated that neither did I state that everyone needs to be as rich as him.

I told you that the majority of our Nigerian graduates are living in abject poverty after NYSC nothing at all for them even during NYSC you need connection to get posted to a place that will pay you 10k or more how much more after NYSC.

What I am saying is where is the assurance, where are the social structures and safety nets that ensures Nigerians especially graduates do not fall below a certain level of poverty. That is all I am saying.

How many graduates can boast of earning 100k+ in Nigeria today even here on Nairaland you typing I know you don't earn up to 100k a month

100,000naira a month translates to 1.2m a year this is the amount countries like USA consider as poor. So to USA people living in this amount are tagged poor.

In Nigeria we have no social security, so people can be poor as in 0 naira in hand, 0 naira in bank and no food and yet they have no place to go to at least get free food and a blanket almost every country outside Africa has provisions for the poor. We on the other hand have the world's largest concentration of poor people with no safety net. What do you expect? For these people not to find a way out of such poverty without looking back. Not everybody can hold their morality in such circumstances so we should attack the WHY instead of the people when the causative agent is addressed then anybody still indulging in such acts only have himself to blame

I'm sure alot of Nigerian fraudsters infact criminals generally will leave their crooked ways if they see something legit that will pay them half of what whatever crime they are doing now is paying them.

Arresting Hushpuppi won't stop Nigerian scammers, it will only give Hush legendary status , immortalise him and his deeds like Billy the kid or any other criminals during the time when the majority of Europe and americas were poor. Criminals attained legendary status for going against the rich and the state or govmt why do you think that is
But now that the majority are above the poverty line when you commit a crime it is frowned upon by Everybody in the west Why? Simple the govmt now works or appears to work for the betterment of the majority unlike in Africa particularly Nigeria where the govmt works for the politicians only.

Saudi Arabia has the same oil as Nigeria every citizen of Dubai gets paid by Saudi Aramco oil company which is the state owned company 1.2million naira per month, for doing nothing just because their country has oil, in Nigeria even the people who own the land where Nigerias oil is drilled from don't get 1 naira, the oil has killed all the fishes in the rivers and as such increased poverty yet the govmt has not given farmers any money to go into another business.

And here you are defending the govmt.

Stop using anything to justify fraud. Nigeria is not the only country with bad or corrupt politicians. I know Nigerian politicians are heartless and useless but why did hush puppi not hustle legitimately despite being in a developed country? I have friends in Dubai who worked as cleaners before getting good jobs there. The issue here is greed and impatience. There are dozens of countries that are worse than Nigeria in every ramification but their citizens are not reputed for this nonsense image Nigerians now have all over the world. These guys have ruined so many opportunities for millions of Nigerians all across the world. People know that politicians in most parts of the world are scums - so if your country has corrupt politicians - people won't really use that to judge you unlike when your citizens have a history of notorious crimes. There are times abroad when I introduced myself as a Nigerian and the foreigners there all agreed that Nigerians are fraudsters based on the activities of these stupid yahoo boys. They think we are all dishonest people due to this whole nonsense yahoo boys that will all die a miserable death.
The problem is not bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!

donbrowser:
Dude was so daft. Social media ruined hushpuppy

He would still have been caught without social media. BEC crimes are not handled with kid gloves by US law enforcement. Invictus probably stole less than 5% of what Hush Puppi and his goons stole. He was still nabbed despite not being too loud on social media.
Most of the so-called lowkey BEC fraudsters are all under the FBI radar - you will know this if you read their reports regularly. They are just waiting to build enough evidence before picking them up.

CRIME DOES NOT PAY!

Vaselinelord:
he'll still come back to his loot jare...... pls rest amd stop insulting up and down joooor

Lol.
Most of you don't even know how the FBI works. This guy won't meet a dime after serving his term. They will seize and confiscate all the assets belonging to him and his associates in every corner of the world. Unless he buried money in underground cells - which I doubt he did. FBI Investigations like this take years and they are always thorough.

Adiwana:
Nah,he wasn't careful. For him to get away with it for years means a real professional hacker was behind the scenes doing his job correctly by cleaning his trails. He probably had that at the back of his mind and that's what gave him the heart to be showing his face on SM cause no way was his face going to be pinned on those loots. It was the urge to show off that attracted attention that brought him down. If dude was off social media,would've been really difficult to get to him.

With or without social media, he would still have been caught. BEC crime is a top priority for the FBI. Invictus was not that active on social media. Remember.

madjune:
Who told you that?

20yrs is half its term in the penal lexicon.

A check on Google about prison terms for international cybercriminals will save you from all these.

madjune:
20 yrs in a US prison is like 10yrs.

There's a way they calculate it.
He won't be gone for the whole 20yrs.

But, that's not the scary thing about it.
The scary thing is the load of hard labour he would be subjected to through the 10yrs.

A year's hard labour is enough to make a 20 year old man look like he's 50 years; talk less of 10 years.

This guy is better off hanged.

That's not true. He is gonna spend at last 17years in prison if he is sentenced to 20 years in prison. Read about the US Justice system.

mobi99:
why is everybody criticizing hushP, my blame goes to our nation's leader,some one wit this kinda intellect is not an illiterate....look at what is happening in our current society first class graduates rooming the street without ( at least I know one for 4 years now)work after wasting 4-6 years in school,corpers are being released in to the labour market wit no or less job opportunities....money meant for public use some set of people at the helm of affairs turned it into their private money,no infrastructure,no tangible social amenities,no good health care,no standard education, poverty ravaging the the populace. the crime hushP committed isn't same thing our so called leaders are doing to us here,do u think if he has a job that can take care of him and his family at large he will venture into this kinda crime that will endanger him for life? Our government doesn't care about how young people in this country is faring,or surviving,as long as their families are ok and in good condition every other thing is no or less problem to them....my only regret on this is hushP was carried away with luxurious life with his pals and forgetting everyone is seeing him,would have been more happier if actually the fraud was on Nigerians economy, because our leaders have loot is so much we don't know who to complain to...on the contrary America really need him,if a common Nigerian can hack into Americans economic system to defraud them of millions of dollars,and it took them years to apprehend him,don't u think he is an asset to them and a huge loss to Nigeria government who could have make use of the guy and use him as a tool to their own benefit. what a loss! ... America has a private penitentiary where they keep people of his caliber,and breed them as well to be a more sophisticated cyber wizard....the world have known hushP as world no1 hacker and not just an insta celebrity....wish u happy stay where ever you find your self Hush

So there are no jobs in Dubai? My cousin worked as a cleaner in Dubai before getting a job with an IT firm.

The problem is not really bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!

gaventa:
Intimidated hater sighted! Channel your pain to those stealing your money and shattering the hopes of your unborn children not someone who hasnt stolen from you.if you say their actions are causing legit Nigerians some shit outside I will tell you before internet fraud Nigeria never had any good image, if internet fraud stops today nigeria still won't have any good image. These men were just posting you are the one who is supposed to change your perspective. They don't know you in person.

The problem is not bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!

Fucsheetup:
I live in Nigeria, I have no choice.

If I want to be rich, it must be through ‘evil means’.

Yes to your question.

You should be ashamed of yourself. I will rather be a homeless road cleaner than to engage in fraudulent or evil activities all under the guise of getting rich. What the hell is wrong with this generation? Why are people so greedy, desperate and impatient? Nonsense!

MondayOsunbor:
20 what ? ?

wait how much years will our politicians get ??

compare to the amount them stole

What's the business of the American justice system with Nigerian politicians? They are interested in Hush because he defrauded ordinary Americans. Punishing politicians is the sole responsibility of Nigerians.

seanwilliam:
you are just confusing yourself, most people are into it for survival.. how many politicians pikin have you heard doing Yahoo yahoo before? No one is supportingfraud, but u and I know that if a country fails to do the needful on time , then it should be ready to clean this mess later .. every country has scammers .. the point is if the system is working, it will reduce.... a person that finish schooling and gets better paying job wouldn't think of delving into scam.. and u see, since most of them have tasted scam money and see how easy it is, then it would be hard to take dem out of it..

Are you telling me that Invictus Obi had no good paying job in the US before engaging in fraud? See, here in the US, there are Nigerians who work 4 jobs to live! Why did they choose to work and not scam people? Do you think compromising business emails(like Hush and co) is rocket science? Many people in the US can do this but we just choose to stay true to our core values and integrity. Life is a process and things take time. I will rather work as a cleaner than to be a fraudster.
My cousin is in Dubai. He used to work as a cleaner before getting a better job. Why did Hush Puppi not follow this route?

The issue here is greed and impatience. These guys just want to ”enjoy” the best things possible via shortcuts.

cray91:
their lives is still far better in the US federal prison than many of Us in this shithole of a corntree

You all think US federal prisons are the same as what you see in Hollywood movies. Some prisons here in the US are worse than Kirikiri. I just pity most people who don't really know the penalty for crimes like these in America.

frankblinkz:
Hypocrites!! u guys are happy now..u chant and rejoice over his arrest.
now take a look at urself,do u enjoy d life u are living,do u feel happy each day of ur life knwn u dnt have at all.
dude jst did what he cud do to survive,bcuz of d zoo country we find ourselves..if am to choose a life,i will choose that of hushpuppi..this life no just balance,i knw sm of u will quote me,hopefully if i dnt get reach to any harmful substance,i'm f*ckn tired..everythn is nt jst cool anymore.TIRED OF LIFE

The problem is not bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!

VirginSearcher:
The pics looks photo-shopped. I wished he would get a good attorney that would enable him reduce the sentence. I feel for him

Why should you feel for a greedy criminal who found his way to a developed country but chose not to work legitimately?

cray91:
if just 20years it's okay then. not to much. i know some people here would wanna quote me but Bleep that.

Considering the charges against him really i was expecting for more years like between 40-50years but if its 20years. he should be glad oo cuz thats like years of more enjoyment cuz prison life in US is more like still living In Dubai cuz its far better than lives in State Capital of Naija(abuja) its sef

Stop saying what you know little about. Prison cells for cybercriminals in the US are hell. Do your research.

DonBenny77:

Our own notorious Hushlegend
So 'proud' of you boy
"African prince"
The brains on you though!
Twale baba! You were very productive in your field

There is nothing extraordinary about what he did. If he's that smart, he should invent a software like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and the likes. Anyone with basic knowledge of cyberinfrastructure can pull off what he did. People just have more integrity than others.

seanwilliam:
I love your choice of words. I thought you would say in all cases



Credit to DuBLINGreenb, the original poster
Won't happen but las las hush done chop money, flex life, lived lavish, flown choppers, flown private, had the most exotic cars, mingled with celebs obtained connections, became a known international brand.

No jail can take that away from him, if he comes out of prison he will be better than most poor Nigerians because he has a platform, he has connections, he has experience, he is known and so on. He won't be starting from square 1

He can write a bestseller book, be a TV host, sing music people will buy, sell his story to American media companies, work for security organisations abroad etc

Most Nigerians live in houses worst than American prisons me typing this have not seen electricity in 42 hours straight, I paid aboki 50 bucks to charge my phone, American prisons have 24/7 electricity, gym, free TV, free laundry services, free phone calls and free food that is why black Americans even the celebs see jail as an achievement as street cred status bringer

how many haven't been to jail? you tell me as we speak many US celebs are in jail including Steven Spielberg's daughter, R Kelly, Da baby etc
Even Robert Downey Jr, Lil Kim, tommy Lee, Mark Wahlberg have all been to U.S prison
Their prison is not like our own many come out of jail looking better than they did before they went in.

Those quoting me will chose 10 - 15 years in American prison and a lifetime of living lavish for themselves and their family without thinking twice over being a poor Nigerian from birth to death.

Ask yourself what odds hushpuppi had of being as rich as he was without doing what he did? We all know majority of Nigerians will be born into poverty and will die in poverty but we all want to delude ourselves by thinking "I will be the one to make it" niggger that's what the other 100,000,000 dead Nigerians before you thought, you think every poor Nigerian chose to be poor? or they don't know your God or another one is "if he didn't do crime he would be enjoying by now!" Nigguh enjoying what exactly

Simple question please how many Nigerian lawyers do you know richer than or even half as rich as Hushpuppi? Even the celebs how many of them where as rich as hush? Only the very top 1%

Another quick question? Ask them how many years and how much suffering, and how much connections etc it took them to get that degree and then that position and if the pay for those without connection is adequate, do the same for every other profession except clergy and politicians

And decide for yourself what chance the vast majority of Nigerians have of becoming millionaires or even hundred thousandnaires ?

I'm not encouraging crime please don't do crime but let us be realistic in our thoughts and speech,

I thought if you go to school you must be rich until I was in a slum and a woman told me she did her youth service in taraba, I was surprised I was like wtf excuse me, she said yes she served in.... She didn't know I was thinking shocked thinking to myself "how did you go to school for 17+ years only to end up in this slum in this poverty" I assumed everyone in slums where uneducated never do wells, miscreants etc.

Imagine if she, like most young girls were compelled to sleep with lecturers for grades, or sorted to pass and all that thinking riches were ahead of them upon graduation only to end up in a slum without husband and children hey this isn't fiction this lady was quarrelling with another non educated woman the other day I recorded what the women were using to insult her. Her lack of husband and children she kept saying she sacrificed all that for school and her future but you decide if this is a future worth losing sleep for, worth losing meaningful relationships for



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGhHX6sSzCU

Don't worry out of respect and privacy I didn't show her face.

Extra fun fact did you know?? Nigeria made more money from Yahoo boys in 2019 than from Agriculture think about it.
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Stop stylishly defending fraud. Hush Puppi and Invictus Obi found their way to Dubai and the USA. Why did they not hustle legitimately? This is a case of greed and the impatient urge to live a luxurious life. And f.uck that shit that he has made good connections. 20years is a long period of time. A lot of things would have changed by then. So many of the people he claims to know now may not be alive then. They may even be broke or not even wanting to associate with him.

leaculpa:
Its clearly written there dt he owns an oil company too. So he was definitely no longer a salaried employee. With all these assets he is still not as rich as most big players in the oil sector. Do you know how much dapo abiodun is worth? Lets not even call them sayyu dantata & tonye cole?
Way way more than this.

In case you don't know, the small oil retail business dt psquare went into is what gave them money to build all those their mansions in ikoyi. It wasn't just music money o.

God bless you. If Dapo Abiodun should declare his assets, many people will run away from social media out of shock. I once worked on a report about one of his companies and I was shocked. The guy has more than one private jet self.

I'm not trying to justify political criminals but most of those arguing on this thread don't know how things work in the corporate world - particularly in the energy and banking industry.

baby124:
Go and ask your parents how much they were earning 26yrs ago even up to the 2000’s. Some of them were earning 500 naira monthly 20yrs ago with big positions. Why do you think most of them die poor because their pensions are not adjusted for inflation and they lost all they had through bad government. Then Babangida and Abacha did their thing and all their money was worthless. See I don’t have time right now to go through your post. If I do, you will not like it. But keep supporting rubbish that you can see clearly is bad. May you not grow old and these types enter your account to steal all your pension. They are already running away with pension they can grab. Soon they will come for your account and even the house on your head in old age.

He did not work with Shell. He worked with National Oil.

Thierry Jay is absolutely right. Ajimobi most likely stole as a public servant but the declarations he made in 2011 are not beyond the reach of a former oil executive.
Before moving to the US, I worked closely with some of these executives and virtually all of them have assets that are similar to what Ajimobi had. They all have houses abroad.

I'm not defending Ajimobi here - I know he is one of the corrupt political class that has held Nigeria back. However, based on what I know checking the books of different oil and energy companies, a former executive can definitely amass assets worth at least 5billion naira.
There are a lot of benefits, emoluments and ”profit-sharing” that make it possible. Most of these executives invest these funds in shares and stocks. I know of one executive whose income from shares and stocks pay him more than his basic salaries.
It's down to career trajectories and how wise you are(investments) like Jarus pointed out.


And to Cc tot listowell felix10 and others. There are ways investments in assets work. Let's assume that before I left Nigeria, I bought a land worth 1million naira. 5years later - the land could be worth 8million naira. If I have to publicly declare my asset - I will have to declare the value of the land as 8million naira and not 1million naira. That also does not mean I paid 8million naira to purchase the land.

During the 2008 financial crisis here in the US, houses that are normally sold for $500,000 were sold for less than $200,000. Some of those houses are now worth $800,000. Assuming I bought a house for $120,000 in 2009 and it's now worth $850,000, does that mean I stole money to purchase the house or I purchased beyond my income?

These are basic laws of economics and asset ownership. That a former oil executive own assets worth 10billion naira does not necessarily mean he earned 10billion naira basic salary during his career. That is where investments and assets ownership come in. Anyone who knows what the ”top” looks like in the banking and energy industry will understand this.


NOTE: I know Ajimobi was a corrupt politician but my point here is that all the assets listed here are not beyond the reach of oil executives and investors. He could have acquired these assets even without holding any political office.

ZINIBANKS:
But crispels wait O am in Nigeria now and am also dating a Nigerian girl I'll now leave this country and go and still date a Nigerian over there again den use Nigeria do me when my brain is intact and not packed out I will atleast try to date those whites now
In fact if I enter USA this night Nigerian girls will be the last I'll ever think of is maybe when am ready for marriage OOO that's when I'll date them

Lol. Dating white girls is not as easy as many people think. It takes two to tangle. And it takes an emotional connection to build a relationship. Due to cultural differences, it’s not always easy to build emotional connections with white girls. It takes efforts, sacrifices and time to date white girls. It’s not as straightforward as most Naija guys think.