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lecturerdabo: "PRODIGAL" Repented!

I am not sure what you are saying but Prodigal does not mean repented, please go and check again.

Of course, PDP has hijacked our economy, what do you expect. Oil should be a Niger/delta thing and different states and regions should be pursuing economic systems based off their different haves and have not's resulting in a robust and diversified economy, instead we are here stuck under the banner off the presidency and his single mind.

texanomaly: Sounds like you need a "Checks and balances" system. Forgive me for butting in. I am not Nigerian. Perhaps my view is not relevant. I mean no disrespect. What you said makes sense, as well as many others here. Good luck. Sincerely, I have grow to love the Nigerian people and wish only the best.

Yes, the argument that states will abuse power is very stupid, the only thing all states have in common is that they are made of Nigerians, this funnily enough is also the case with the central government, so when anybody makes the argument that states are going to abuse this power really they are saying the central government will as well. But it is because of this potential for abuse that the state governments are precisely the ones that should hold the power in the country, when they abuse power the central government can come in and intervene but there is no one to hold the central government accountable for its abuse. The legislature and the judiciary technically should but too much power has been handed to the executive branch, the most dangerous of the three since "enforcing" laws is precisely their duty.

DerideGull: @OP

You are one of the problems confronting Nigeria. I guess you are still in denial about the real or true structure and polity of the jungle called Nigeria. It is pertinent you convince yourself that Nigeria is a dead-end and a total deconstruction of the colonial project is needed.

If we deconstruct Nigeria then Nigeria doesn't exist anyone, there is a difference between what you consiider to be best for everybody and what is best for the nation, deconstruction means the END of the nation. YOu need to get your panties out of a bunch and consider what you are saying properly.

Nigeria's problem is that we reacted poorly to the civil war, instead of reconciling the issue, figuring out why the Igbo felt the need to wage deadly war we chose to strip them of the power to do so ever again and guaranteeing that no one else ever could, power is power, you cannot be selective of what you deny people, you simply deny people all power or no power, the Igbo states as well as all Nigeria was stripped of the power to resist government and everything else and here's the kicker, the power and resources required to develop goes along with it, all handed to the presidency. One man to rule over 170 million people, it is far far too much work and he is bound to fail. Now we have state governments who cannot really do anything and local governments that serve to hinder and infringe on state power only. The entire system of government doesn't work, by worrying more about potential for abuse rather than development we have created a centralized government that is overwhelmed in its duties and cannot be held accountable meanwhile most of the nation is powerless to effect change in the nation and everything has gone south, nothing outside the presidency is of much matter and therefore everything fails.

In short, the presidency and its imperial powers are what is killing Nigeria because the result is that the rest of the government has no power.

PDP has failed to give us those eggs, they either do not intend to or they do not know what is to be done, either way they have no business criticizing APC.

porka: No, your analysis of the Syrian situation is one-sided.

Russia is acting in its enlightened self-interest.

Actually you should have gotten acquainted with the issue before alleging silly statement.

BTW, the argument about 'this' or 'that' government is killing its own people is worn.

In view of the new realities, you guys should come up with a new argument.

The same self interest they had when they supported North Korea, what a beautiful trend, then there's the communist nations of South America, How dictators and Tyrants seem to always gravitate towards the Russians.

donedy: Please stop disgracing yourself in this forum with those childish claims. In fact, you need a month-study in Russia history. Russia is only second to the United States in terms of technology. You should compare their GDP to other European countries.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_08/Bolshoi-director-undergoes-eye-surgery-in-Germany/

Russia, the great advanced nation where their people need to fly to Germany to get medical care.


GDP per capita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Russia ranging from 17k to 21k while European countries mostly seem to be sitting pretty at 30-50k.

omo harry: TALKING OF DESCRIMINATION AGAINST FOREIGNERS.YOU WAKA FAR OO! WHAT ABOUT SOUTH AFRICA WEY DEY YOUR BACK YARD IN THE SAME AFRICA CONTINENT.SO FORGET RUSSIA CASE OF DESCRIMINATION AND FACE THE CASE AT HAND. WELLDONE RUSSIA,FLUSH OUT THIS GAY PEOPLE BEFORE THEY INFLUENCE OTHER PEOPLE AND CHILDREN WITH THIER NONSENCE ACT.

That didn't make any sense, South Africa's proximity to Nigeria has no bearing on whether discrimination in Russia is okay or not, I suggest you take a learning class in advanced reasoning and logic, you need it.

caprini: If Russia is dat bad a racist country,how come so many black africans,black brazillian,are making mega cash in the same Russia ,playing football?samuel etoo,Fernandinho,Ahmed Musa etc

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1637785-mario-balotelli-racially-abused-again-in-italy-why-serie-a-must-act-now

Racial discrimination is rampant in Italy and particularly in the Ukraine, UEFA was actually giving advice to non whites to stay away but still there are black students there, it is not as if the second you step into the country someone will cut your head off but there is a heightened risk by comparison.

mobi5592: .
I hear u. Go tell that to the chinese. Thank God for a nation like russia and china that stand to challenge these european nations and their perverted laws.

A billion people live in China on less than 5 USD a day, the Chinese economy is growing and yet the people are poor and starving, China has a class, the politicians and their relatives who are rich and everyone else is poor and oppressed, Hong Kong wants to be free china won't let them, Tibet as well, Taiwan. America's crime according to you is allowing people who chose to be perverted to be so and you condemn them while China chooses to oppress and enslave people but you are okay with that. I can now see how the European nobles tolerated what their kings did to the people, if it is not your problem it is okay, something trivial like the freedom to misbehave and make our own bad choices which God has given us btw is what you chose to prosecute. As long as you don't pretend to be any better than the people you point fingers at and criticize I am cool with whatever nonsense you say.

TheRealYemi: On what standard did you judge me as a hypocrite, is it based on the scriptures? if it is then clearly your knowledge of scriptures is quite limited. From my statement above it is clear i wasn't judging, just trying to understand the mind of a homosexual what informs their sexual orientation. My statement wasn't even based on the Bible which clearly and repeatedly denounces this act (Romans 1:18-31 for example). For me, if you choose to be gay it's your business just don't tell me the God of the Bible is okay with it

The paragraph where I responded to your post is completely separate from the one where I accuse people of being hypocrites. you should notice. I wasn't talking about you, I thought that would be clear, sorry that it wasn't.

dahonestboss: they understood the laws of power and dare not to start what they cannot finish. Read the 48 laws of power and Number 19 specifically

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/international/americas/2013/01/27/368640/US-State.htm

There you go, do not deceive yourself, Russia is the country that lost a war to Japan when Japan was still newly developed and Germany largely outperformed them in WW2 until they were saved by the winter just like how the winter saved them against Napoleon, the greatest kill ratio in combat was against Russia at the battle of Tanneburg in 1914, the US would probably defeat Russia and still have time for breakfast. Russia's victories were in Asia against uncivilized people many decades ago, the only time they got any land in Europe was when Churchill gave them Poland.

Since when has Russia been considered a part of Europe?

They have always been the weird, poor, communist, half Asian brother of Europe.

ABEG, they are still a "developing nation" alongside Nigeria.

loswhite: nw u hav won the dumbest post on this thread

Russia is poor, they invented and spearheaded communism, most of Russia is in Asia and large percentages of them are of Asian origin, infrastructure in South Africa is better than in Russia.

I know that Russia has done something that you like and you want to look at them like some ideal to look up to but Russia but communism ruined Russia, it is in fact a developing state that oppresses its people, whether you chose to accept it or not.

dabossman: Er..., just asking o! Since anti-gay laws are considered an act of "intolerance", and homosexuality should not be criminalized, when will polygamy (labeled 'bigamy') and marriage between blood relatives (labeled 'in.cest') become legal in the west?

If it's okay for two consenting adults of the same sex to get married and adopt kids, then why is it illegal for three or more consenting adults to be legally married and be one family, or why can't a brother marry his sister. We are all free to do as we chose when it comes to sexual and marital rights, aren't we?

When will the West repeal their laws on bigamy and in.cest? Or don't people that prefer polygamy have rights too? Or is it only the Western powers that can decide what rights consenting adults are entitled to?

Again..., just asking.

Simple, there are no people advocating for either and tolerance and acceptance is a gradual process, polygamy if it ever catches wind in the us I am sure it will pass but inzest is bad for the human race, being allowed to Bleep your sister opens up room for children of inzest who are at high risk of genetic deficiencies that they will then spread, we are looking to evolve, not devolve. There you have it, if the culture shifts towards Americans wanting the right to be polygamous they will eventually get it but there is a genetic rejection of inzest.

loswhite: must ppl be free to do any form of nonsense that comes to their head. So in ten years time if ppl feel attracted to their pet and they feel that they want to get married they should be free to do that right? The number of ppl dat are kill on gun related violence in US alone is more than terrorist attack . Just yesterday a 4 year old shot his father, few weeks ago a seven year old shot the younger sister. If this is what freedom is then I think I will prefer prison

Freedom to do whatever as long as you don't impose on other people against their will so no, killing people doesn't count and your pet cannot be said to consent or held to the same standards as it is not sapient and an organism of lesser intelligence, any perceived consent will not hold up in court. So doing whatever you want to people will not fly and neither will bestiality, there are two sides to freedom mate, where did you learn that one persons freedom supersedes another, remember equality and what not.

chris365: Chai!!! our leaders need to go and get some balls frome these Russians

I think they are in dire need of something else, "SENSE".

hisblud: so becos they banned homo, they are equated with African states ehh? well russians, from my understanding, have a say in the socio-political affairs of the world as france who promoted homo. so stop been sentimental.

Who told you that it is because they banned homosexuality that he says that, can you prove that they re otherwise a traditional European country? let me tell you something about Russias policy, the syrian government is killing its people and russia supports them while germany, france, the netherlands, the uk are all supporting the people rebelling against the oppressive government so when someone says russia is not a traditional European country don't go making silly statements. Read the whole thread again, there is no argument that Russia is a cesspool of discrimination and tyranny.

SPEED5: Why Gay is rijected: 1) it is not natural 2) it is dirty in all ramifications 3) if u choose to believe or not, d evidence of the existence of God is all around us. Religions do not support gay cos its SIN against GOD. Its a projection of satan

The bible says you should believe in God by faith, this is because there is no actual proof that he exists anywhere in the world. You can construe all those things around us as you like but there is no actual evidence of any deities.

TheRealYemi: I honestly can't understand why with all the beautiful women to be had, a man will prefer another man, it just beats me

Me either but then if you asked me why I find breasts so fascinating I will never be able to give you an answer so understanding homosexuals is never gonna happen, just have to accept them, they are intelligent people like the rest of us and otherwise no different so we just have to learn to accept that this is their thing and move on.

Acceptance of other people and not judging them is something Christianity preaches isn't it? All ye hypocrits, your the ones I am asking.

x-razzy:
crowe is either a gay or a bi-curious thing!

Nothing in that comment speaks to gayness, you cannot read from that whether i am for it or against it but that is how you guys think so i am not surprised.

AB$I:
full;dont mistake satan's wealth wit God's blessings. Well u r a nigerian and im not surprise because all u know is wealth by stealing,looting,drug peddling,fraud,stealing,robbery etc

And Gods blessing to the Russians is what exactly? A government that denies them the freedom that God apparently gave them? Spanish people are highly religious and catholic, is Gods gift to them is a financial melt down, poverty and unemployment? Nigeria with all its prayers for God to help us over the decades where are we? Ultimately Spain for example will borrow your so called satan money from the Germans and their porn industry. 87% of Japanese people do not believe in anything, Japan is one of the richest and most productive countries. I am sorry but you are all deluded, on this planet there is no noticeable difference between those who believe in any God and those who do not, that God of yours might not as well not exist(This does not mean there is no punishment in the afterlife but the idea that God is going to bless Russia for denying their people the right to commit their own sins as God intended is the kind of thought process I had when I was no more than a toddler).

porka: Seems you are embittered.

Well, the Western government[s] seem to have borrowed the Chinese' template now in dealing their people.

Or did you miss out in the current 'mother of all leaks'?

American government is monitoring its citizens; phone records, internet etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fadR8jAapWY

Sounds Chinese isn't it?

You talk of oppression?

What is targeted assassination of citizens by government?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/05/obama-kill-list-doj-memo

Seems your Western civilization is collapsing brother.

And you mentioned God's blessings?

'Righteousness exalts a nation'

That is the problem with you people, there is a difference between monitoring their freedoms and denying them freedoms, monitoring what people do is in no way oppression. A Chinese man made an anti Chinese GOVERNMENT statement at the 2012 Olympics, he went home and was beaten within an inch of his life, christian churches in china are underground because the government has to approve what they are allowed to even say, there is no such thing as total freedom anywhere but the wast will never be like China and while the Chinese government does it to keep the people down, the Americans do it to maintain security. One is in the peoples interest, one is a direct attack on their interests so there you go.

Rossikk: I'm a bit surprised to be honest. Thought the gay rights movement would be a lot stronger in a European state like Russia.

You are thinking of western nations, Russia is nothing like them, it is more like china were the government and the people are separate and it is heavily oppressive of it own people.

dhardline: I really thank God for this move,let them keep it up.Its little things like this that makes God bless a nation.While some other countries copying sodom and gomorrah are busy passing laws that allows ladies dressing unclad legal.Na thunder go soon fire dem.

Clearly God is not blessing Russia, he is blessing those soddom and gomorrah nations because by any stretch of the imagination they are all much better than putin prison.

99cent: In Nigerian Christianity, high rank and success is measured by how western you are ex. impeccable English, flashy cars and clothes, high western education and professional jobs etc. Where as in Islam, community leaders are more respected and valued rather than how flashy your car is.

In a christian church like RCCG, winners chapel etc, you will not be congratulated for being the local government chairman or a local politician. instead, the most respected persons in lagos churches are doctors, lawyers, federal officials etc.

In mosques on the other hand, local politicians are more valued. If you go to a mosque, the most respected members there are local govt chairpersons, local businessmen and women, mayor, community leaders etc.

so muslims are more motivated/ incentivized to involve themselves in local politics than christians.
if a christian did it, he might be accused of being illiterate or too local.

I know this because my uncle (christian) is a local politician and he is more respected by his muslim friends. most of his christian friends do not give him the same respect. they value more professional, western style successes. like doctors and lawyers.
the only exception to this are churches like Celestial church/ cherubim and seraphim etc. they have similar attitude in terms of respect for "local-ness" as muslims.

in pentecostal churches, u will be respected for not knowing how to speak ur native language or for wearing western clothes exclusively. where as in islam, that will be shameful.

Everybody respects governors as far as I cal tell, there is no perception of local about being a governor. Everybody wants to be the governor.

Borders are not an issue, a lot of Poland belongs to Germany(the most rich part for that matter), part of France technically belongs to Germany, part of Germany belongs to Denmark and part of the UK belongs to Ireland, nobody really cares about borders enough to ruin the country, it is only when you are being stymied by a government that you do not approve of that comes a problem, the Igbo, the Yoruba, the Hausa, the Niger Delta region etc are being tied down by a foreign body, our federal government, it is our problem, not another tribe. They fight between tribes as a consequence of their dissent with a government that guaranteed the people cannot challenge it by taking power away from the people after the civil war.

Down the route we are headed is definitely disintegration but to say it cannot be arrested and Nigeria maintained I am afraid is quite naive, I am sure the possibility doesn't sit well with you but if local governments are abolished and state are given full autonomy(a proper federalism) the Igbo people will get exactly what they want(control over their destiny) and they will be very content, just like the Yoruba.

Existing under the same roof isn't a problem, the american south is vastly different from the east, as different as igbo and yoruba safe for the fact that they speak relatively the same language, the problem arises when we are all forced to go a route that nobody wants to go, the route of the central government. The central government is the begining and the end of Nigerians problem, even unitary governments allow individual communities and cities relative deciding power to full autonomy on how they will live, but Nigeria claims federal and yet the president is the one who decides whether I am allowed to piss or not, there is even talk about requiring the presidents permission to blow up amigo, granted blowing it up is stupid but the idea that the president is the only one to make any meaningful decisions in Nigeria is what guarantees Nigeria will never grow and discontent will spread.

By no stretch of the imagination can Jonathan be construed as the wisest man in Nigeria nor can he be contrued as one of the wiser ones, people can take responsibility for the societies by themselves, we don't need a shepherd, there are many educated people out there, this isn't the twelfth century, we need state autonomy, we voted in governors because we believe they can do the job, who is the federal government to deny us our choice.

If everything in America or Germany needed Obama or Merkels approval then nothing will ever get done. I dunno why we have an entire government if the president is the only one that matters. In other matters, why is it necessary to destroy it? if there might be something in there shouldn't they be searching it, demolishing structures without knowing what you are collapsing a building on is the daftest thing I ever heard but then again the Nigerian government it a collection of daft people making daft decisions.

Just fyi, Albert Einsten never took an IQ test.

st.kelly:
Hahahahaha does he think itz an office for mediocres

Yes, state governorship is an office for "mediocres" as you put it. Within the state we have the local government serving as a buffer between the state government and the people, distancing them from these people and reducing their effectiveness.

Interference in local government matters by the state is frowned upon but federal interference is not so technically the federal government is closer to the people than their own state governments.

Within the powers not vaguely expected at the local level the federal government has annexed most of it by means of the exclusive list and even those granted to the states they are allowed to overrule.

Basically the president has more power within the states than the state governors themselves, the state governments have no real power and anybody who wants to make any meaningful changes in Nigeria would have to run for president, yes, the state is for people who don't really want to do anything just as long as they are okay being blamed for things that they were never empowered to tackle, here's looking at Adamawa, Yobe and Borno (the governments were expected to tackle armed men, with what? the inadequate monies they are given?)

Sorry

kunlekunle: if we have a visionary govt, this should be ABC of our development.
Just last two weeks the minister for housing said her ministry is not responsible for providing affrodable accommodation.

Who do they then claim is responsible for providing affordable accommodation to the people?

kunlekunle: if we have a visionary govt, this should be ABC of our development.
Just last two weeks the minister for housing said her ministry is not responsible for providing affrodable accommodation.

lol, them who did he say is?

What is the logic behind a single 6 year term, what are its merits? The logic behind two terms was that if someone was a good president they could govern for longer and bad ones would be voted out after only one term so we could given an inherent uncertainty since we are dealing with humans have better odds of guaranteeing that over many years we would on average have better leaders, what exactly is it that the committee is asking us to trade that for?

LG autonomy of any kind will only take Nigeria backwards, it is very stupid, if the local government gain autonomy, which space will then be governed by the states, this is redundancy, Ikeja cannot be the jurisdiction of both a governor and a councilman, one tier of government needs to be scrapped, we have too many in Nigeria. When duties and responsibilities are not properly defined, nothing is ever done properly. I am very disappointed in the constitution review committee and I am now quite sure they have done nothing to remove the federal governments power over the states, how very sad.

kunlekunle: Ask them in tanzania,
the housing projects are crumbling.

Nigeria, with over 1000 engineegering graduates last year cant put this simple project together.
SMH

How it works is that those engineering graduates would come together and start up a company and approach the federal government to invest in them, help them start up and give them projects. Unless you can have solid information that there have been such groups seriously trying to do such a thing there really isn't a reason to criticize the government. Having a degree is not enough, they need an entire company with capital and equipment, something the government will probably need to help them acquire.