₦airaland Forum

olalat:
no, u re damn wrong. The money is 100% nigeria until otherwise stated in constitution or u are able to mk your unttainable seccession.

Which constitution? You mean the fraudulent document that Abdulsalami and his fellow carpetbaggers forged in our name? Where they wrote, "we the people", when you and I were never consulted? Sorry, we don't have a constitution. Don't be so sure that a secession is unattainable.

lincolnj88:
No weapon fashion against Alison shall prosper

Don't mind the useless legislooters. By the time they jail Diezani, they would discover that their salary is dependent on oil exports. "Nuff said.

olalat:
just keep ur governors on their toes to perform. Checkmate ur youths that kidnap investors. Ask nddc questions. The largest oil blocks re in akwa ibom, they re nt makimg much noise as ijaws. Asari built his king whatever university in cotonou, and come back home to mk noise. No reason for a single child in bayelsa to be out of sch. Ur bigger enemies re ur selfish leaders. Gej could not finish east west road for 5yrs, u call him ur heroe 4 acceptg d result of d election he loss. After u might hv attendd 2 all mentiond, u can ask for more. Given, resource control today, d region remains d same if ur leaders keep d same attitude. Shalom.

Frankly, I don't think we are communicating here. I can't even make out WTF you're tying to say with all those sentences up there.

The question is, " why is it your business what another man does with his money"? Haba!

In simple Nigerian language, Face your front! The money is 100% his, you say he can only keep 13%. The man talk say him no do again. You way sabi manage, manage your own well, make himself mis-manage him own.

Na by force! See trouble!

olalat:
can you enlighten on how the development of oil came about by d tym it was first discovered at oloibiri in ogoni land in 1958. C, im not in 4 ur type of shallow minded bigotory. My point is if gvt all level judiciously mngd d resources at dere disposal, nobody should suffer in dis country. Guy, querry ur governors first bf blaming fg. Before i go, what diff did gej mk in d nd region 4 over 5 years he was there?

I didn't know that Oloibiri was in Ogoniland! I thought it was in Bayelsa, while Ogoniland was in Rivers state. Thanks for enlightening me! This shows what you know about how oil was developed from 1958. I would humbly suggest that you stick to subjects you have a clue about.

Similarly, I wasn't aware that GEJ was the president of ND Region. We were here thinking that he was president of Nigeria. If we were aware of that little fact we would have urged him to stop wasting Billions fighting Boko Haram, building infrastructure accross Nigeria and concentrate on developing his home region instead. Thanks for the education, Mr Deep Minded Non-bigot.

superstar1:
Let us learn not to put all the blame at the doorstep of the north. The north is even more diverse than the south. What they have learnt to do very well is collaborating and mutually beneficial co-operation among themselves.

Why on earth is NC still in strong ties with core north, despite their obvious marginalisation? Reason it out.

UK constitution recognises referendum but yours does not.

First thing is how to build bridge to secure enough number at the national assembly, that will allow referendum to be inserted into our constitution.

The issue here is one of numbers. For some strange reason we have reduced every question about the political economy of this country to oil and gas. Nobody seems to care about any of the large number of dormant resources in this country but only about OIL.

Unfortunately, the oil producing states are only about 10 in number and in a clear minority. It's clearly not a question of building "bridges" because turkeys will never vote for Christmas. The fraudulent 1999 constitution also makes that option impossible leaving only extra-constitutional methods as the only viable alternatives. One such option is to reduce crude export to a trickle and you don't have enough soldiers in Nigeria to stop that.

olalat:
D most sensible of all d comment i read on dis thread so far. The ND ppl nd to look inward rather dan blamg odas 4 undoings. They hv 13% derivatn, NDDC, minstry of nd, sg & lg, man by their own people. What re dey doing wt it? Their youths usually sway dev project in der area by extortg d investor cum contractors. There is no reason 4 a single soul to suffer in a state lk bayelsa yet dey are nt complaing. Is it only ijaw dat has oil in d nd region? What abt others? They should lk inward rather than blaming others for their self inflicted woes.

Well, the Kuwaitis similarly get [b]100% [/b]of their own oil money, I don't remember you or any other "one" Nigeria advocate of proper spending worrying about how they spend it. Instead of worrying about oil fields far away from your backyard I will suggest that you find out about all the gold, coltan and numerous strategic minerals, not to talk of enormous human resources at your door steps. So, maybe the highlighted advice should equally suit you.

NormalCodes:
Yes why won't the physical be spiritual, when we as black Africans can't think straight, besides what do we know.
Aren't we the least developed continent in the whole of mankind, aren't our people drowning the Mediterranean sea everyday.
Black Africa is backwards and this kind of mindset is what is keeping us backwards still.

Greedy British man lumped oil, water and sand together so they can continue to exploit us, and instead of doing the natural thing of breaking ourselves into component units, with same value system and break free from colonial mentality, we are here shouting "no no no, it is physical, it has gone spiritual".

Don't mind the muguns, when false logic and intimidation with threats of violence fail, they resort to superstition. WTF is "fiscal" and spritual about a man-made zoo?

kes234:
That prayer will definitely be urs and your generation Amen, I wonder what will happen if God did not put that crude there, idiot the pepper and tomatoes your generation the take cook no be hausa the plant am? Why don't u eat ur crude as soup why are u ppl acting like u know how that crude get there what a wasted generation you guys are lazy and the bible says no food for lazy man

"God" also put even more oil in Saudi Arabia but I don't see y'all running to claim it in the name of "one planet".

khiaa:
African Americans will never greatly invest in Africa with the mentality that some of the Africans have, like this bafoon you are posting to. I do agree that there will have to be atonement and sincere remorse for the past, but above all TRUST is an issue that would be the hardest thing to achieve.

CAN WE TRUST THEM going by the past and present? Their greed is overwhelming. Their leaders are so greedy that they would sell their people into slavery to this day if the white man came to purchase them with lots of cash to pay.
There is no remorse for slavery by them, it was a profitable business caused by greed, the same greed that is present in their descendants today.

Your post is typical of the kind of mutual recriminations I consistently find between continental Africans and those in the diaspora (i will call this group western Blacks). This attitude in my opinion is born out of ignorance on both sides of the divide.

On the one hand, recent African immigrants to the west find the western blacks at the bottom of the social pyramid and rather than understand the historical reasons for that reality go on to blame the victims.

On the other hand, the western Blacks buy into the popular western narrative about the modern Africa being only about poverty, corruption, wars, famines and chaos. They go on to espouse most of the same popular Eurocentric prejudices towards continental African.

Specifically to your post, you said:

I do agree that there will have to be atonement and sincere remorse [/b]for the past, but above all TRUST is an issue that would be the hardest thing to achieve.

CAN WE TRUST THEM going by the past and present? Their greed is overwhelming. [b]Their leaders are so greedy that they would sell their people into slavery to this day if the white man came to purchase them with lots of cash to pay.
There is no remorse for slavery by them, it was a profitable business caused by greed, the same greed that is present in their descendants today

Yes, it is true that Africans sold other Africans as slaves. However, Europeans equally sold other Europeans as slaves. They even have a whole ethnic group called Slavs to prove that. For centuries, the Irish were sold as chattel along with land by English noblemen. A number of the early European settlers in America were bondsmen. Of source the Roman and Greek civilizations (like almost all other ancient civilization were built on the back of slaves). It was just a fact of economics (in the days before the mechanical era).

In my case, a large portion of people I call my relatives today were decendants of slaves acquired by my forbears. I have not seen any situation where they were treated with less than the respect due to people of their age (we are really age conscious). You may have heard of King Jaja of Opobo. He was a slave who through hard work and extraordinary talent became a king. That is the reality of the slavery institution in my part of Africa.

Yes, slave trading was a business and all businesses are built on greed (not that greed is a bad thing). Slavery served a social function and actually saved the lives of war captives, convicts and others who would have otherwise been executed. In the days before family planning, families in dire straits sometimes sold some members to provide for the rest. That is the reality of the trade. The caricature of a stupid African Chief randomly selling some of his own people for trinkets is simply not true. I wonder how long he will last as Chief if he does that.


The scars western Blacks have today isn't because of slavery per se (people from every ethnicity have been enslaved before), but because of the attempts by christian Europeans to justify the obvious conflicts between the form of slavery they practiced and the christianity they professed (and used as justification to steal "heathen" lands).

ConfessionsNgr:
I think my marriage is in trouble already. I am a civil servant, while my wife is a full time housewife. I work 8am to 5pm daily, but I have to leave home 6am and get back 8pm, in order to beat traffic. So anytime I return, I am always tired, like they say "body no be wood". We have a kid already, and our marriage is just 4 years. My wife always complain of my performance in bed. I can only last a round, and the round only lasts for few minutes. I have tried using performance-enhancement drugs, but the side effects are much. The doctor says I need a lot of rest to have a lot of virility. But how can I rest when I am hardly home, I wish my wife will understand, but she is always saying I am not man enough on bed. I wish I could satisfy her sexually too, I try my best to, but it is not just enough. I love my wife so much and I will do anything for her and our marriage. But in this case, I just don't know what to do. Please help save my marriage, my wife is an housewife and anything can happen.

Source: http://confessionsnigeria.com/post/94/how-can-i-satisfy-my-wife

Get your neighbour to help.

Thanks. Don't mention it.

Eshinwaju:
flying that flag is treasonable felony......a crime punishable by death sentence..... ......even in Europe....d onli crime that attracts death sentence is treason.......therefore all those people should be made target practice........by the Nigerian army.... ....if u want Biafra ........ ...don't provoke......just do it peacefully.........

This kind of primitive response is exactly the reason why we insist that this fake country is actually a colonial prison camp because it's only prisons or zoos that punish escape. The American Civil war ended about 150 years ago but the confederate flag still flies proudly in most of the South and no one is threatened.

papaejima1:
we only hope the stuff does not get stuck somewhere in his digestive system causing constipation. Na who go fit give am purge nah....?

If you listened to the speech, the Animal was already sounding constipated.

Buhari's speech erm.... was short on specifics because he's still "digesting" Johnny Boy's handover notes. By the time the notes would have made its tortuous way through his digestive system, it will be time for another "dogs and baboons" (s)election again.

OkutaNla:
If we are to follow your line of thought (using your Liechtenstein analogy), are you suggesting that Nigeria should rather split into 250 different countries? Considering that it's recognized to have about that many different ethnicities? Smh

As many countries as it takes, Bro. As many as it takes.

Self determination should not be negotiable but if one, two or more ethnic nationalities want to form a nation state based on pragmatic considerations grounded on mutual respect, they should be able to do so.

The important thing is that Africans should be able to create their own viable nation states without being bound by capricious lines drawn on some map by racist 19th century Europeans.

WombRaiders:
You employed popularity as a virtue of your religion.

Well, I simply stated that because something is popular or rampant that on its own doesn't make it a good thing.

Kapish!

Islam is a religion of piece. They bomb you and one piece of you here, some other pieces of you over there.

WombRaiders:
Gonorrhea is the most common STD with millions of infections annually recorded globally but that doesnt make gonorrhea a good thing.

Or does it?

Good one! You forgot to mention cockroaches and Mosquitos.

Ibsgal:
"GEJ signed a bill this week that criminalizes female genital mutilation or cutting, a practice that a staggering 19.9 million Nigerian women are thought to have undergone. The landmark legislation is being hailed as an important step for Africa’s most populous country but also one that experts hope will have a potential ripple effect on the 26 other African nations that have significant populations of women who undergo the practice" - International Business Times

IT IS ABOUT TIME. Hopefully this won't be one of those political posturing actions that politicians use nowadays to further their careers. I doubt GEJ has anymore to offer the nation as a politician, so if this is his parting gift, I am very happy with it. Female genital mutilation is a real issue, one that most are unaware of because we live in our bubble and at times fail to realize that people who do not live in bustling or adequately-infrastructured cities battle issues completely different from the ones we face, especially in places where access to education and healthcare is severely inefficient. Signing this bill into a law is a giant step for femalehood, but the most critical step will be to make sure that it is enforced and that those who continue to engage in this horrible and unnecessary practice are criminalized.

So, what exactly is wrong with female circumcision? Is it because Oyibo say it's wrong or do you have a real reason? How come no one is talking about Male Genital Mutilation? I guess WE don't count.

I suggest you tell your femiNazi activists to take turns sucking my Mutilated Genitals.

owobokiri:
Very intelligent post. I have thought along this line too. Remember the fulani allowing a minority Gowon to lead? That got the whole north both christians and muslims to allign and fight together.. personally I believe Biafra should be a country of the willing within the former eastern Nigeria. If the minorities must join, they should play important and visible roles at the top right from the get go. . Positions of power and authority. Not symbolic roles.. Eyo Itas squabbles with Zik did a lot violence to the unity and political growth of the former eastern Nigeria.

I don't support a Biafra with even a single non-Igbo ethnic group. It's not fair to them and it won't be fair to us. Actually, it will just be a smaller version of Nigeria but the recriminations will be more bitter.

Going to the Gowon story, what happened, afterwards? Since, the mid-eighties, it has been one crises after the other between the majority Hausa/Fulani and the smaller groups. They have possibly lost more people in these crises than we lost in the pre-civil war progroms (especially when you add the BH carnage). Orkar's coup should clue you to the truth.


I don't think these multi-ethnic states can work equitably. One ethnic group has to dominate the state. If you check every successful nation state, one ethnic group has been dominant. The Han in China, the English in the UK, the Russians in the Soviet Union and the WASPs in the USA. Since, I wouldn't want to be dominated and have my culture become extinct, I wouldn't wish that on another group.

Every group should be independent. You have countries in Europe like Liechtenstein with a population of 50,000 (that's probably less than the population of my hometown,Nkwerre). Yet, they are thriving and even wealthy to boot.

EUROBOMBER:
Good. This is one reason why I keep saying that the SS does not exist, it is just a political creation. They are many small ethnic groups lumped into one and described as "SS". While the Ijaws are saying one thing, the Efik is saying another and yet the Urhobo is saying another and the list goes on....

@Topic, this is a good development. I believe every Nigerian should support Buhari to move this nation forward and not distract him with unnecessary militancy here and there.

We will give Buhari exactly the same support GEJ got from that evil coven of witches called Apeeshit.

pazienza:
Ironsi wasn't the one who dissolved the regions and their autonomy, he merely united the federal civil service. It was Gowon and Awo that dissolved the regions and created dysfunctional entities called states.

It wasn't the Igbo man that cancelled the 50-50 sharing formula between the owners of resources and the FG, It wasn't the Igboman that created the Land use decree that stole the resource rich lands of ND and made it bonanza party for all Nigerian groups, especially the Arewa-Odua.

But I have never seen you utter any anti Yoruba or Northern words on this forum, you remain innately Igbophobic, your veneer is wearing thin bro.

Are you sure you are not from the lands west of Ikalands, you now sound exactly like them, your veneer is wearing off fast and furious, better answer your father's name now. An anti GEJ SS commoner? It must be freezing in hell.*grins*

Stop wasting your time with that troll. It's not the sharpest tool in the box. It keeps repeating the same dreary crap from thread to thread. I personally don't want Ikwerre in Biafra 2.0.

cjrane:
Ghana has managed to dodge many crisis unlike Nigeria. Ghana always wished they could surpass Nigeria, but by sheer size, Nigeria is an elephant comparing to a mouse called Ghana . Unfortunately Ghana is too small for Nigeria. Even the economy of the nort east region of Nigeria is bigger than Ghana's economy. Lagos state alone is bigger than Ghana's economy and entire population. Sometimes I wonder why Ghanaians don't take Nigeria's size into consideration.

If Ghana builds one hotel or flyover only in Accra they start shouting. But Nigeria is building the same type of hotel in multiple locations as Uyo, Lagos, Abuja, Kano, Anambra, Enugu, Dutse ,Ogun, Delta,Calabar etc. so comparing Ghana to Nigeria is often a joke.

Congratulations, Professor Bleeping Obvious.

ITbomb:
At least for once I would agree that Uncle Jona was clueless on dis one

Johnny boy take style eff up here sha. How he go find this kind Craseman come make handle him campaign? Sometimes, I suspect that while we were killing ourselves here, the whole presido thing don already tire my guy.

Rich4god:
Until I see an aljazeera source, am not believing this crap....
Do you know how many Muslims that have lost their life in the fight against IS... Currently, shia militias and Iraqi forces are battling IS in ramadi...
No dey come here dey spew lies...

Get real and stop the lame Taqiyya (holy lies), the Iraqis fighting the ISIS are all Shias. They are fighting ISIS because ISIS doesn't recognize Shias as true Muslims but as apostates.

pazienza:
GEJ only repeated Ironsi mistakes. Tried too hard to please people that would never like or appreciate you or your people. He is currently trying to play a Zik, a one Nigeria sympathizer, he obviously has no knowledge of the history of his people and his region. He was a beneficiary of a ND struggle for equity and resource control, but he ultimately betrayed that struggle, not just by his actions, but mainly by his inactions, what a tragedy.


Yes, the North will not tolerate Ohanaeze suggestions to save Nigeria, Fiscal policy, resource control and the rest. By their resistance to peaceful change, they will play into the hands of secessionists.

Great insight as usual. I was amused at the Northern elite version of hard ball especially during the last conference and again during the JegaJega elections. They seem to have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing. They keep handing secessionists like me our much needed ammunition.

Nice language but very shallow analysis.