₦airaland Forum

Rolings:
I never said I have just visited northern Nigeria, I said I HAVE VISITED AND LIVED in most of northern Nigeria and YES I know more that YOU about population....having a diploma in statistics.
From your submissions it's obvious you have not been to the north so I can excuse your ignorance.
A part of learning is showing willingness to know what you don't know from those who know ,from all our discussion you have not shown that willingness and instead chose to cling to the apron of lies and propaganda (your south controls the media so the ropaganda is easy) that you have been fed., Unfortunately there's a limit to what I can do to make you see things differently and will rather let it go and hope you will learn from another person when you have decided to
PEACE

Na war to you oh. You be real defender of the North, sha. Chill your warrior mode and read what I wrote.

I didn't categorically say that you don't necessary have a larger population, I just said that there is no way of knowing for sure because the normal process of conducting population counts (at least for those without the benefit of a diploma in statistics) is to do a census. This normal process has been mared by conflicting group interests.

Rolings:
you wrote ...How can NW and NE be more populated than SW?, how is that possible?, let's not even Add SE and SS to the list. The population of Nigeria is a big fraud. I dare say North is not more than 30 million people..... is this a joke or what.
the land mass of NE and NW is almost half of nigeria and you say they are not as populated as south west.....i have been and lived in all parts of the north and can tell YOU authoritatively that the population of NW and NE is far greater than SW.
I enjoin you to go to the north and see things for yourself ,thats if you havent been there before, my first reply is my explanantion for the misconceptions you all have regarding population of the north

This is funny. How can you tell the population of a place by simply visiting the place? You be mathematical magician?

The truth is simply that we don't know what our popuilation is? It could be higher or lower than the official numbers. All these argument about whether the South or North is more populated is just inelegant guesswork.

There is a perverse incentive inbuilt into our attempts at counting our population. As far as political power and government funds are rationed on the basis of population, you can only hope against hope for accurate population numbers.

HarryDuce:
Hmmm. Ndoki being an Ijaw clan seems a bit farfetched. I mean, how are they related? what are the links? When did Ndoki stop being an Ijaw clan that they are now reuniting?

@pazienza & HopeAtHand. Besides nairaland, I don't see anyone claiming another tribe as Ijaw. Linguistically, the Ijoid tribes are similar. Culturally, some are more similar than others. The affiliations did not come out of thin air. If a Nembe man speaks, a Kalabari, Okrika, Ibani, Biseni and Akinima person will understand what he says to an extent as the languages are similar (should i say dialect ). It is difficult for a Kalabari man to grasp anything an Izon man says, but fluent speakers will understand a few sentences. A Kalabari man can be understood by many Ijoid tribes especially in rivers state.

There is no "forced" association. What about the Obolo? (I presume this is what HopeAtHand referred to as claiming Ibibio). Most people call them "Ijaws" simply because of their language and history. Their language is Ijoid (not Ibibiod as most people on nairaland claim) with Ibibiod and Igboid influences. What they choose to identify as is entirely up to them.

I'm not gonna talk about Bonny and Opobo because it seems some people are not abreast with reality. Moaning about it changes nothing on ground.

Your post seems very honest and free from the sort of propaganda this sorts of topics usually attract. However, why do you think the Ndoki (being Ijaws) is far fetched?

I have been hearing this claim about Ndoki being Ijaw for a while now but anytime I talk to offline Ndokis I get conflicting responses. While some outrightly deny it pointing to some far off interaction with Ibanis, others say that they were actually Ijaws. Someone actually told me that a lot of older Ndokis were fluent in Ibani. This may be the case because I have met a lady that I initially thought was from Rivers State only to later find out she was actually Ndoki from Abia. She even had an Ijaw name.

It may also be that ethnic divisions was a lot more fluid in the past than it is at the present time. It could be that these groups we struggle to classify along these hard lines were made up of people with differing origins. It could be that Ndoki in the past simply identified as Ndoki and while speaking Igbo did not give a lot of importance to whether they were Igbo or not because that classification had very little political value as the larger Nigeria we see today didn't exist.

Hedonini:
Don't ask me stupid questions anchored on unthinking sentimentality.

However, you can make stupid statements based on utilitarian thoughtlessness?

Hedonini:
Sadly, this is a viable solution. Unfortunately, there's no way to defeat this monster without 'expendable' collateral damage.

How would you like you and your family to be the 'expendable' collateral damage?

Jessyjack:
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saved from eternal damnation..... hell is real.... heaven is real...!

How do you know that these places are real?

Have you or anybody you know gone there before?

Or is this a case of “dem say”?

Jessyjack:
As long as he is alive, he can still be saved............ the only place one can't find salvation is in the grave........

BTW, why should any reasonable fellow follow him on social media....

Saved from what exactly?

Another bad belle African “brother” bitching about Naija.

Who gives a fvck?

pchukwudi:
It takes some kind of sickness to lie with a straight face like you just did.

He ended the "regional government" (according to you) and yet appointed Military Governors to administer the regional governments you claimed that he "ended".

Kudos to your crap.

The more important question is , what if he did? The guy is long dead. This is an obvious non sequitur and has absolutely no relevance to the debate.

MaNyEsq:
The constant attacks in different parts of the country by these murderers and the uncaring attitude of the government and others not YET affected by these attacks bring to mind the poem written by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller. The poem is about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and subsequent incremental purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The lesson that all Nigerians should learn from this is that: Today, someone might be a target of persecution or injustice and if you don't speak up against it because you're not the target, eventually, when it gets to your turn, which is more likely, nobody would be left to speak out on your behalf. Put ethnicity aside for a moment, we are humans first and injustice and persecution against one should be persecution of ALL. Enjoy the poem!

First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Our folks in this country are simply amazing. When something is happening in one part of the country, they pretend that there is some insurmountable Great Wall of China that protects them in their own cozy part of the country.

We have a tough ride ahead for the next couple of decades. These are just the first screeching wheels heralding a major train wreck.

omoteacher:



How can naija be mentioned in the category of these war ravaged countries ? It can't get worse than this. An OPEC country for that matter. Jah please heal our land we pray thee.

So you think that what’s happening in the NE is not war? It’s a huge outbreak of peace. In short, we are “peace” torn.

BuhariAdvocate:
I heard this man is a cultist and ritualist's. I doubt if he will fulfill his promise

Are you from Imo State? No.

Kindly mind your freaking business.

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ChristianNorth:
You need help that is all I will say. You can check the role of bureaus in civil service. So he should just re-instate on mere assumption that they were illegal removed without recourse to a bureau to authenticate those claims.

Go and check the role of Trump's transition team. Are you aware it was the transition team that even interviewed and nominated all secretaries and over 5000 appointed govt officers. They gave Trump three options to choose one from.

Yes, transition formulates the take-off programme. You already know what you want to do but you don't have inside intel on governmental operations, finances and priorities. Through tranisition, you are allowed for the first time access all governmental files from the info, you can re-set your priorities and formulate your takeoff programme.

Buhari promised to pay 5k each month but during transition, he found out that Nigeria doesn't have that kind of money, he re-adjusted his priorities.

Buhari will inaugurate another transition team even though he is not handing over to any?

Why?

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I don’t have time for all this political double speak. We are just coming out of 8 years of people like you defending an obvious failure. We don’t need more of the same.

pazienza:
Say what you know.
MKO Abiola won Anambra State in the 1993 elections and got as high as 40% of votes in other Igbo States.

Ndiigbo also were the bedrock of OBJ Two tenures, consistently voting for him en mass, even when Buhari was running with an Igbo VP in Okadigbo, against OBJ, we stuck with OBJ.
You children of hate are just born to hate.

Why should Igbos even vote MKO when he told Okadigbo and Nzeribe, both in SDP at the time, that he didn’t need the Igbos? This was after he had offered the SE the position of SGF which they rejected.

Nzeribe was right to do him in. You don’t direspect someone like Arthur and smile home. It’s a shame he “won” Anambra even though it was a Pyrrhic victory.

ChristianNorth:
He said transition committee and stop fuming. Ihedioha is the BEST

I wasn’t “fuming”. This is my state and I have a right to be very concerned. I hope for the best but I cannot ignore early warning signs like these.

The plight of teachers will be of concern for the incoming Governor as he promised to set up a Bureau to look into issues of unduly sacked teachers who still have a lot to offer the State.

You don’t need a “bureau” to look at the issues of unduly sacked workers. If they were unduly sacked as he said, then you reinstate them. Moreover, you already have an entire Ministry of Education to handle issues like this. Just get them to earn their pay.

He frowned at the level of mismanagement of the finances of the State, vowing to set up a Transition Committee to evaluate the status quo and articulate the takeoff programmes of his government when he is sworn[/b]in

You ran an entire campaign and you don’t know what your takeoff programmes should be? For real! And you need a transition committee to determine this? That’s not the role of normal transition committee. They ideally serve to [b]transition from one administration to another for continuity purposes.

All the same, I am still hoping for the best even though a logical foundation for optimism isn’t available for now.

I wasn’t really impressed by this guy’s resume and campaign. It’s a shame that better candidates decided to sit this one out. Ihedioha was actually the best of the worst.

However, all this talk about setting up all sorts of committees is very ominous. The only reason politicians constitute committees is because they are bereft of ideas but want some movement even if it will not ultimately resiult in any motion. I hope to be proven wrong but I am not very hopeful right now.

kernel001:
You didn't see what the full wrote, " Agbese, a public affairs analyst wrote from the United Kingdom", you should have in Nigeria during the election.

People like you is the reason why Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world. Terrorism have been technically defected, yet soldiers and citizens die daily.

No mind am!

Agbese, shilling from the UK. Indeed!

Eze2000:
Even when I attended military schools and the Nigerian police and army carry them all over the place and I have to defend my home in the village with my own rifle... I agree with you I have never seen a rifle before or held one.

Rounds are bullets, just one shot. cartridges contain rounds.

Many guns are designed to use more than one kind of ammo but not all can interchange cartridges. I don't have the strength to argue. If you know, you know. If you don't, just walk down your Nigerian street you should see a policeman to answer some of your questions.

And we ae talking Assualt Rifles not 'rifles' ... there is a difference in terms of category and generalization

Sadly for you, the Kala isn't part of your knowledge base I actually expected you to mention the 9mm

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Eze2000:
It wasn't made to but it can use cartridges from most of the major rifles in its class. Another gun like that is the Lugar pistol. It can use multiple ammo.

When you jam new information try to figure it out first before condemning. Get out of that crippled mindset of normal nigerians

You sound like you’ve never seen a rifle before, not to talk about holding one in your hands.

I don’t have the time or energy to argue about stuff that’s very obvious. If you live in the states, visit a gun range, find out how rifles work and why they are called “rifles”, then read your comment again.

There are rifles that are capable of using different rounds (like both the 5.56mm and 7.62mm), but they all come with interchangeable barrels. Sadly for you, the Kala isn’t one of them.

Eze2000:
Hi,

I'm an author of military action books and I tell you that you both are wrong. The AK-47 is a smooth firing rifle right but not the best in the world at the moment. The sole reason the AK-47 is the most popular assault rifle in the world today is not even that Russia made it in incredible abundance but the fact that this gun can use parts from almost all the other rifles.

In other words, your average terrorist doesn't have to buy a thing! All he needs is whatever he can steal from others. Put it in the rifle and it will work.

The AK-47 can use cartilages form the M16 and M4 perfectly but those guns cannot do the same. This is the sole reason why US combatants in the gulf war and Vietnam dumped their M16 in favor of the AK-47s used by their enemies.





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Oga,

AK47 does not use the same “cartridges” as the M16. AK47 uses 7.62mm rounds while the M16 uses 5.56mm (NATO) rounds. This is elementary, common knowledge.

Haba!

Cue4rm:
Nigeria is on a crash mission

God is using Buhari to destroy Nigeria so we can have a new country.

Subtly, Buhari is answered prayer

Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you. Mumuharri is under a very heavy anointing.

omohayek:
The Vietnamese communists are certainly plagued by endemic corruption, but at least they are able and willing to learn from the examples of their more successful neighbors, which is far more than can be said for Nigeria's political class. Even on the rare occasion when Nigerian politicians aren't personally kleptocrats, they more than cancel out this virtue by their utter economic illiteracy and mulish refusal to heed expert advertise - Buhari being the most notorious case in point.

Corruption is just a red herring. The real problem with Nigeria (and similar colonial creations in Africa) is that no one really owns the country. The country is an orphan. It is a case of Tragedy of the Commons, writ large.

Eco101:
You are so irritating' for concealing the truth because of tribal sentiment. People like u should be deleted from this Earth.

Don’t mind that loafer. Apeeshit has a way of turning normally unintelligent people into slobbering imbec1les.

Like the situations in 2003, 2007, and 2011, even if the umpires were saints, the opposition in 2019 had no path to victory.

The same old canard, first patented by the PDP to justify rigging.

It always begs the question, “if the opposition had “no path to victory”, why do you need to rig?

This attention seeker called Omokiri should go get a real job and start minding his business.

OP,

Your friend was not a serious atheist. Which kind cheap conversion be that one nah.

"Show me electricty" and the next day he was at prayers with you. Haba!

fiizznation:
Now this is very petty and childish. You won't give a beggar any penny, well that's your goddamn business but video covering yourself while mocking a destitute is outright stupidity. Besides how much do you even have that will transformed the beggar's life? Even in the USA, there are destitutes who are anti-democrats/liberals, but you don't see such chastisement from pro-conservatives to any destitute. Begging itself is un-Islamic so there isn't any big deal if you don't give a beggar your penny.

Buhari is the president and that's how it will remain until 2023, no amount of 'beggars humiliation' can change that. People should understand this!!! And besides what's even the difference between social media beggars and those that do their begging on the streets?


Northerners will vote buhari a millions times over any criminal that will be the flag bearer of pdp, and you can only humiliate 'beggars' that might not even have PVCs.

Choke on that!!!

You should have known by now that your fellow Nigerians are such cowards.

If a big man steals, he gets hailing but if poor man steals 200 Naira, he gets a lynching. It's not that they are not upset that the big man stole the megabucks but we are too cowardly to do fck all about it, so we transfer the aggression to the hungry thief. That is Naija Psyche 101.