I don’t want to be a naysayer but who else finds it strange that our “galant” zombies can’t show the faces of the people they have “eliminated”?

donbachi:
Spiritually,someone is sitting on your marriage..how can you take your wife to be to your village to meet with parent.only to return back with the thought of ending it..it is not ordinary..when it comes to marriage,we pay more attentions to the physical,finances and human qualities negleting the spiritual side of marriage.both of you should seek the face of God.and pray.

Forget all these spirit abi na wine. This is very obvious.

Babe done achieve major milestone, meeting the parents. She is now feeling more relaxed and showing more of her true self. Our guy is seeing her in this new light, coupled with the usual cold feet you get when entering into a very major undertaking. That is the cause of his discomfort.

He just needs to honestly ask himself if he can relate with an assertive partner. If he cannot, then he should call it quits.

LasLas:

Feminism traits and the likes....

Babe done dey balance small come feel free to show herself. Lol.

You mean Jesus could not send an angel to free them. I am really disappointed in this Jesus of nowadays.

kettykin:
who backed stabbed Jonathan ,calling him a drunk fisherman only to elect a brain dead illeterate
who masterminds the closure of markets dominated by igbos in Computer village, Alaba, Ladipo
who masterminds the installation of Ishalojas on igbos dominated markets in Computer village, Alaba, Ladibo
who trains and unleashes street urchins to go and disturb igbo traders who are genuinely doing business in lagos and paying taxes
who masterminds the unleashing of touts to go and stop voting in igbo dominated areas
who has been going around blocking every move to restructure Nigeria so that in a restructured Nigeria igbos would leave enmass to the east

Nwokem,

Na war to you oh! So you can’t recognize a ploy to generate traffic. Instead make you shun, you dey put mouth for mumu talk.

Una no go kill person with laff for this una circus when una dey pretend say na country. Everybody dey form him own conspiracy theory. Which one be “sharia law bag” again?

Yujin:

This is where Christian youths are needed. Any EFCC harassment should be resisted if need by force. It is a fight for survival. Allow Buhari to clamp these men down and Christian youths are finished. This is a time to keep partisanship and political correctness far away.

Which Christian youths? Make every man answer him Papa name, mbok.

People in their dotage will just wake up and start spinning wild theories about “Jihad” and “Fulanization”. Na now day break?

Obi1kenobi:


Which "area" are you talking about?



How can IGR be irrelevant? A few states generate more in IGR than they receive from FAAC allocation and needless to say, the revenue is channeled into governance, so how can IGR be irrelevant? It is relevant for the simple reason that it's a measure of our failure of governance. If your states run cap-in-hand to Abuja monthly to collect revenue that the FG generated from Niger Delta oyel (over 70%) and Lagos and SW taxes (over 20%) while generating very little revenue of your own, then it portrays your movement for independence as grounded on falsehoods and fantasies when you have not demonstrated your viability and efficiency in governance. A state like Anambra b'anyi has great potential to easily triple its IGR within a year, but gets outperformed by states like Ondo, Cross River, Kogi, Kwara etc who all have significantly less commercial activity and smaller populations. That is a failure of governance.

I'm happy you agree we should look inwards. That is the crux of my critique of the pro-Biafra movement. People will abandon their communities, their wards, their local governments, their constituencies, their states etc and ignore the colossal failures at all levels of governance and representation amongst us that we have elected and be shouting "zoo" upandan. That does not make a shred of sense to me. To me, what they're looking for is scapegoats rather than real solutions. And scapegoating our "enemies" is more convenient than taking the blame for our own failures as a society. I'll keep on hammering my Abia point as an example: that in a state of very high potential with successive useless administrations since '99 (2 of whom they saw fit to reward their failures with Senatorial posts and a current useless, kerosene-sharing governor that they saw fit to re-elect for a 2nd term), somebody will wade through all the decay and filth on his roads in Aba to follow IPOB around chanting "zoo" upandan. Those are not people that are serious about enacting true political change. They are interested in the comfort of a nationalistic, jingoistic movement that creates false scapegoats for all their problems.

To your question; the freaking Anambra Basin of course. The Shell JV held the OPL before it was acquired by Orient who are currently developing the asset.

IGR represents the price residents pay for a product called governance. The function of government is to maximize social welfare and HDI is a good indicator of that. If HDI outcomes are largely similar or even better in those areas with lower IGR then IGR is largely irrelevant.

Blue3k:


I think that's a typo. The gold says grams on side. Then tons on right hand side

That will still be problematic because 39,000 grams is a mere 39 Kg.

This is why some of us don’t put any stock in any statistics coming from the government. It is mostly inelegant guesswork.

Blue3k:


Yes it is credible this mined gold. Alot of countries mine much more gold in a year than this. China mined much more gold than that. Having bigger reserves doesn't mean you have more output necessarily.

Heres a Forbes link.

Your Osun chart says 39,000 tons. I don’t see anyone in your current chart doing 1000 tons, not to talk of 39,000. There is something clearly wrong with the data. Maybe they got there units mixed up.

Blue3k:
You guys act like illegal mining in Zamfara is a new phenomenon. There was lead poisoning in 2006 due to illegal gold mining. The link between illegal mining and bandits were already known. There's a front page story on it posted 2018. Buhari's administration cracked down on illegal miners. If you disagree tell what previous administration about situation and how many were arrested. Nigeria sucks compared to Ghana at tackling the situation.


Facts:
1. Illegal mining goes on all over country
2. Bandits were already active for years
3. Legal mining revenue is shared
4. Osun produces the most gold.
5. Every other state produces less than a ton.



The nickle was discovered in 2016. The violence proceeds it. The Australian mininig company and givernment dont need residents dead to mine. The government will collect its taxes. That mine not even opperating anyway.



Lol you're sounding like Buhari blaming neighbors without proof. Its the Malians causing violence. If you want to blame any foreigner go with chinese. At least they have record of being arested in Ghana over illegal mining.



Citation needed.

While I don’t believe that any government (even one led by a dotard like our current Presidiot) would willingly allow huge swathes if it’s territory to become lawless, you need to check the numbers you posted for Osun State. The figure 39k tons of gold isn’t credible. The country with the highest gold ore reserves is Australia with 9,800 metric Tonnes.

Obi1kenobi:


So, can you demonstrate what we have in these "strategic reserves"? If the reserves were that evident, why even need to wait for the government to prospect for the oil. Why won't corporations simply obtain OPL licenses to explore if confident they can profit from it? I haven't said there is no oil in the SE, but there are many in the habit of exaggerating what is known: and all that is known is that the geological composition of certain areas in the basin makes it a "probability" that there are commercially significant deposits of oil. Which needs to be investigated much further, but a paucity of investors makes exploration a government job and NNPC's current aboki boss seems only interested in the Northern basins. The biggest known oil fields in the SE are in Imo and Abia which together produce like 30,000 barrels per day or so. I've even frequently heard many of our people the fake news that Anambra has Nigeria's largest gas reserves but have never seen a credible source for the claim. People just buy into some elaborate conspiracy theory of the Nigeria government deliberately looking to stall our crude production.

Again, I perfectly agree countries can navigate disadvantages in natural resources. My intention in bringing it up is to present the problems we will have to navigate. But when you obtain far, far, far more from the Federation account than you contribute as the SE does, perhaps some reality needs to be applied in the secession bravado. Ordinary IGR which is totally in our control, we can't generate (comfortably the worst performing region after the Boko-ravaged NE), yet we make comparisons with sophisticated economies like Japan, South Korea and Western Europe and Israel etc? The summary of every argument I have about the dewy-eyed Biafra dream is why the agitators fail to first look inward at all the ways our society has failed before looking at external problems. Pazienza here for example has tried to blame the failure of SE leadership as some insidious influence of Nigerian unity, which does not make any sense at all to me. Why would an Abia person that has seen one of the worst-governed states in Nigeria since 1999 leave all his failed leaders (they even managed to vote O.U.K and T. A. Orji as their Senators ) and be crying about the "zoo" and his Biafran paradise? How does that make sense?

You should stop getting stuck in the weeds pursuing a point that is at the moment only academic. The OPL that covers that area was held by the Shell JV which is 60% controlled by NNPC (JV). I don’t understand how some “investors” are going to go and start developing some property that doesn’t belong to them.

I don’t understand why you keep harping on issues we discussed before. I have told you that your IGR in the current Nigerian system is largely irrelevant. Ironically, some of those areas that boast of high IGR also have very high debt, while their actual impact on HDI is just as uninspiring as the SE governors we like to deride. Why should someone boast about paying more for the same crappy product. I find that piece of propaganda hard to understand.

All successful countries are built by “dewy eyed” patriots who believe that they are simply the greatest and are willing to put in great sacrifices to prove that. Americans talk about “American Exceptionalism”. The rational mind knows this is a myth but the motivating power of such thinking exceeds any thing you can drill, dig or quarry from the soil. You don’t become great by thinking you’re mediocre.

I agree that we should be looking inwards because whether we like it or not Nigeria is in a terminal downward spiral and we are becoming like those who come praying for rain while forgetting to arm themselves with umbrellas. We need to prepare ourselves for a post-Nigeria Igboland.

Yyeske:
If I may ask you, of the prominent names you mentioned, who in your lineage past present and maybe future has gotten to the level those people are? Your unguarded hate is simply because of their political leaning which they are entitled to just as you are entitled to yours.
Next time you visit your village, call on your grandparents and/or other people of their generation to explain the popular Igbo saying "Igbo amaghi Eze" meaning Igbo knows no king so that you can understand why the Igbos are said to be republicans in nature, forget what you see in nollywood.
You don't like his guts for saying the incontrovertial truth which you can't counter, when I call you and your likes bigots now, you get angry

Is this necessary or are you deliberately derailing the discussion (especially with the highlighted) with inflamatory comments?

BeautifulMind2:

Very useless guy, I careless to quote him, thank God such idiot doesn't exist in my family, I would've kill him myself, big time efulefu, you can never see him contribute positively to any Igbo thread or defend Igbo interests, always quick to call you out when ever he see you attacking the enemies, seriously I can't hide my feelings for these guys, the idiot and that nonso what ever.

Nwokem, chill abeg. The thing never reach that level.

We are Igbo people and we should not allow other people ( who don't share our egalitarian ethos) to influence us negatively towards intolerance. Obi is simply follwing the best Igbo traditions and exercising his right to free speech. If we don't examine the negative aspects of issues, we stand the chance of being blindsided by the unexpected. In risk managment, you are usually required to do a threat assessment which forms a basis for managing risks.

My only issue with him is that he doesn't understand how to pass his concerns across in a way that makes it worthy of consideration by the intended audience. He also needs to fact check propaganda before sharing with others.

Obi1kenobi:


Why would it be "engineered"? That doesn't make any strategic sense. Our oil-dependent economy needs more oil reserves which will lead to a boost in our output. The Anambra basin, and Benue trough and Chad basin and Sokoto basin etc all hold potential. There has been greater focus on the Chad basin among many that hold promise, but oil exploration is a multi-billion dollar investment and unequal attention does not necessarily mean there is some conspiracy involved.



Sure. I agree totally. But sub-saharan Africa's most thriving economies like South Africa, and Gabon, and Botswana are resource-rich. North Africa's highest standards of living are in Libya (at least before the West decapitated its leadership) and Algeria which are resource-rich. The Arab world's highest standard of living are in resource-rich Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia etc - far richer than those with few resources like Yemen or Jordan, or Syria. So let's not pretend natural resources don't matter. They certainly help a lot. The importance is certainly magnified even more in 3rd world countries, which unlike Europeans or Far East Asians with their very sophisticated, industrialized economies, struggle with diversification.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories. The decision not to exploit the Anambra Basin was a political one and not based on economics. The FG clearly stated that they were keeping those resources as "strategic reserves". I did not manufacture the term.

Secondly, oil bearing Igbo communities were deliberately carved into Rivers State. In some cases, single communities like Egbema were split into two and the portion with greater oil reserves carved into Rivers State. The Ndokis in Rivers State are still yearning to join their kin in Abia State. This is not a theory. It is a historical reality.

I don't understand why you think that countries in sub-saharan Africa need to follow a different path to development than other parts of the planet. No country on the planet was created with "very sophisticated, industrialized economies". People had to develop the infrastructure, sytems and knowledge base that created the emergence of those industrialized economies.

in the early '60s, the Eastern Regional government piped gas to industrial estates in Aba and PH. They also established Nigersteel, the first steel rolling mill in the country. At that time, some of these economies in East Asia like South Korea were not doing better. South Korea was just emerging from a devastating war ('50s) and most of the industrial infrastructure was located in North Korea.

In terms of natural endownments, very few countries on the planet can match Congo (DRC), yet they are a basket case. Similarly, Nigeria has enormous resources, yet they were rated the 14th most fragile country on earth(2018). Every country has strenghts and weaknesses. The path to success lies in how they are able to leverage their strenghts and minimise the impact of their weaknesses. In some cases, nations have beeen able to turn weaknesses into competitive advantages.

Again, like I said before, this discussion is misplaced. As an Igbo man, I understand that the most important thing is the shared will to succeed.

Osagyefo98:




U guys are not known for adage, so u won't understand.

Ife niile nasia, ka osi so onye ama ana.

Which language is this one? Is this Akan or Ga?

Na lie, mbok.

Fakest news!

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi



This is not true. The Lagos colony was struggling prior to 1906, and wasn't so productive, which was why the British under Sir Walter Egerton decided to almagamate it with the greater productive Southern Nigeria (SE and SE) in 1906.
People talk alot about 1914 almagamation and why the North had to be merged with Southern Nigeria in 1914, but nobody talks about how barely productive Lagos colony was merged with Southern Nigeria in 1906,with the capital city of Southern Nigeria moved from Calabar to Lagos, and all the resources of Southern Nigeria, channeled towards Lagos development by the British.
Without this,Lagos was no different from other British coastal cities in Africa Like Abidjan, Lome, Monrovia, Conakry, etc.
What set Lagos on its current path was it's attachment to Southern Nigeria and was subsequently consolidated by being made the only gateway to African most populous country. Decouple Nigeria and Lagos cannot even compete with Porto novo who are already out punching it in marital business. Lagos enjoys the monopoly of Nigeria market, which it would'nt have post Nigeria.
For more on these, read this topic :https://www.nairaland.com/1019602/dont-blame-1914-amalgamation-rather

All Lagos has today is as a result of Nigerian unity.

You talk about Abuja,but she has only been Nigerian capital for just 28years,and is already looking more beautiful than Lagos, despite having to share the attention with Lagos and lacking sea port monopoly.
In contrast, Lagos had benefited from Southern Nigeria from 1906-date, and as Nigeria capital for 105 years received undivided attention and development using collective Nigerian resources mainly from original Southern Nigeria,, firstly by the British and now by the FG. 105yrs of undivided attention! Look at Abuja with just 28yrs of shared attention, a barren empty piece of bush today. Imagine what it could look like in 2096, if Nigeria continue existing. Let that sink in!




We are rich in natural gas. And enough crude oil to meet our domestic needs. Exploration in SE hasn't been intensive as well. I'm sure we could find more with better exploration funding.
https://www.nairaland.com/826279/imo-over-7.8-trillion-scf
Anambra still has substantial natural gas reserve.

Ondo oil wells were mostly ripped off Delta state by OBJ, while SE oil producing lands were strategically removed and added to Rivers state by dubious boundary adjustment program in immediate post civil war era. I have no doubt that a future Niger delta autonomous region would challenge most of Ondo current crude oil control areas.

Furthermore. Coming from Nigeria, the country with highest poverty rate in Africa, you have not earned the right to slate Rwanda that is doing relatively better. With also Better future forecast.
We have highly skilled artizans in our twin cities of Aba and Onitsha. A Biafran government financed natural gas pipe line and electricity to feed those small scale industries there, and we could have an industrial revolution. SE currently receive the least power supply in the country and pay more than most regions for power.

Our land is very much fertile. I don't know where you got the barren thoughts from. Northern Anambra, entire Ebonyi and Southern Imo and Abia are very rich/fertile and sparsely populated areas. Agricultural output in modern world depends on value of human resources and not on land mass. This is why Netherlands,Israel and other smaller nations are agriculturally more productive than Nigeria.

Ndiigbo who grew in Igboland will not exchange our beautiful rain forrest with lush green trees and shrubs for anything in the world. Only people brought up outside Igboland utter such talk.

And I don't really care to compare us to any Western European countries like Netherlands or Denmark or whoever. We're like centuries away from them - as are all other sub-saharan African nations, so I can't even bother with that comparison.



Well, Igbo natural human resources shine brighter than all, considering we suffered a civil war set back but are current on Par with any other Nigerian group, if not better. Yorubas inherited the Nigerian private sector after the well marshalled Heist of indigenization policy. Wealth is generational, the children of these Yoruba aristocrats who took those companies are currently the ones still controlling many of them today, which gives the false impression of Yoruba on the whole doing well. Read this:https://www.nairaland.com/2516282/before-forget
In contrast, the Igbo wealth is fluid and not crystallized in the hands of aristocrats.



I think you are biased. You underestimate the obvious cracks in the Yoruba religious tolerance tales, while exaggerating the squabbles in Igbo inter denominational Christian divisions.
Oraukwu progressive union is very united and had worked well for Oraukwu progress. Our people are very able to unite over denominational differences and hardly do open confrontations ensue as a result.
Muric wasn't paid by anyone. He is a typical Yoruba Muslim. I had lived in Yoruba land too, and personally know that like every narratives they tend to manufacture and push, the Yoruba so called religious tolerance is overrated.



It has big significance. It highlights a culture incapable of peaceful resolution of conflicts. This reared its ugly head in western region too, when the region broke down in political turmoil,despite being solely mono ethnic then. You can't just wish away the fact that in checkered Yoruba history, they have not done a great work when they had to just deal with each other and not unite against other groups in bigger Nigerian union. It is a pointer to the fact that a Yoruba only country will be full of political turmoil and instability, so much that it could hinder it's progress.



Exactly my point. Yorubas despite what they say, dread Nigeria disintegration. Contrary to the narrative you are pushing, Yorubas are not neutral as far as issue of Nigeria unity is concerned. They are firmly for a United Nigeria and would work for it, this I'm sure of. Anyone who wants out of Nigeria must factor Yoruba as a viable threat to counter.
I refuse to believe they believe they can thrive outside Nigeria as a country. Their lips service to wanting regionalism is treacherous at best. Their actions say otherwise.

I doubt you are focused about Igbo aspirations, you are more interested in worshipping your Yoruba benefactors, friends and in-laws. Which is why I'm more inclined at bursting your bubble on them.

The way Obiora regurgitates propaganda is scary. It’s difficult to believe that an Igbo person is unaware that the Lower Niger was the real estate that attracted the British to form Nigeria in the first place. If it was not very valuable, the Royal Niger Company will not have received the Royal Charter in the first place.

I am also surprised that he’s unaware that the low oil production in Igboland is engineered. The military government kept the oil fields in the Anambra basin unexplored because they wanted to use that as “strategic reserves”, while fruitlessly searching for oil at the Chad basin. They also carved huge chunks of oil bearing communities from the SE into Rivers State. We are not even talking about oil bearing Igbo communities west of the Niger.

In any case, I have always felt that the argument about natural endowments is misplaced because there are many examples of countries with the great natural advantages that are literal basket cases.

There are also many nations with very serious disadvantages that have been able to turn their proverbial lemons into lemonade. The important thing is a strong and shared will to succeed. Our people say, “onye kwe, chi ya kwe”. This is also true in the collective.

pazienza:
The way I see it.
The Nigeria that will include Niger delta, post Biafra exodus, can only be one with lesser control over Niger delta.
That way,Ndiigbo can negotiate sea access issue with Niger delta, independent of the Yoruba +Northern Anti Igbo current Nigerian centralized government stance.

An autonomous Niger delta would want to keep Biafra on friendly terms, as an insurance against possible Nigeria aggression or withdrawal of their autonomy.

It will also be a region with significant Igboid speaking people.

I’ll feel sorry for those Igbos trapped in that region. I won’t envy them in any the slightest.

Onyenna:
I have a feeling China plans to eradicate religion entirely.....

Feeling ke?

The official Chinese Communist Party (CCP) religion is atheism. I don’t even think you can be a party member if you’re openly religious. And if you’re not a party member your chances of advancement is limited.

They’re even relaxing a bit, prior to the ‘80s, most religions were underground.

While, I believe that religion is essentially a thought disorder, people should be allowed to have their freedom.

Chinko no get joy at all!

You must assimilate by fire, by force. They want to “sinicize” Islam.

You just have to give the devil his due. These communists are efficient.

YoungDaNaval:
The lady's lying. She need to be tortured till she confess what actually happened to her boyfriend!

I’m surprised they’re calling this suicide. The girl’s story doesn’t add up at all.

The guy was beating you, then killed himself because you ran into a room to hide. Even some small pikin no go believe this one.

aumeehn:
Its like almost all the Youths in Southern part of Naija are into Cultism! Smh! Saynotocultism continue your story wey dey your back 100%

Guy, how’re you naa. I hope you’re ok oh.

Since your brother, Atiku lost, we no dey see your brake light here again.

Anyway, nice hearing from you. Take care.

Freedem:
The reputation of this country is finished

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/movies/joy-review.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfGPlPd3cQE

Trust Niggerians to ignore the substance and chase shadows. People are worried sick and ashamed of symptoms while ignoring the root causes.

You hear that your country is the global capital of poverty but you’re more worried that we are exporting wh0res. As if whoring and poverty are not daughter and mother.

Ladipodeal:
But why decorate with artificial palm trees in South East Nigeria where soil support palm tree.

My brother. I tire.

BabaIbo:


Keep kwayet, I don't like Rochas neither, all of them are the same, even though Rochas worked but his jobs are substandard. If you really have the interest of Imo state at heart, you won't choose Ihedioha, Nwosu, Ohakim, or that APC man. All of them are the same, don't worry time will tell

Who dash you Imo?

If you done cross Ore before, make I bend.

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Oshigun:


M.oron. It is you Igbos who cut your nose to spite your face because of hate for others. You can even reject things that will benefit you because you don't like the donor. How can taking guns out of private hands be a bad thing in a Country where many are casually violent because of poverty, illiteracy, cultism, animist belief etc? Dude, just stop talking and go to your B.iafra forum where you can talk to your fellow lunatics who make what is simple complicated. Imagine suggesting more Nigerians should carry firearms? That is how you know Igbos. Every dumb idea that will bring down the "Zoo" is what they advocate. Every good idea that will improve Nigeria they shoot down and condemn.

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I don’t have time for deluded, hypocritical, ethnocentric mor0ns.

See patriotic mumu.

Truly, patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.