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pepperdemzombie:
One of them https://www.nairaland.com/5482952/chef-chi-chiomas-ex-boyfriend-shares

Thank you bro it is well....nothing new under the sun. Life is too short good to be good and kind to people around us.

Angelfrost:
My point exactly!... His dull, attention-seeking wife messed up by divulging such in public! He has now made things worse by trying to show solidarity instead of ignoring the whole issue.

In a highly conservative, pretentious, and patriarchal society like Naija, such a move can only end in tears!

You are right @Angelfrost going end in PREMIUM TEARS

Richy4:
To say that I am speechless @ bold will be an understatement.... You mean that since an average Nigerian answers call in a rude manner, It makes it Ok and acceptable because it like a culture?... It's like saying since we have a corrupt system of Government.. Corruption is almost like a brand Name in Nigeria, then it is acceptable and cool...

If she can be rude to you, what made you think that your customers will be exonerated from her rude behavior? What about the company's foreign clients? have you thought about how messed up that could be for a deal worth millions?...Anyways, you will hire her because it was not your establishment as long as you got paid, no big deal...Even if the organization looses important clients, NO skin pain...(In Managerial Finance, what you said you will do is referred to as Agency Problem) The likelihood that managers(in this case hiring manager) may place personal goals ahead of corporate goal
Anyways, Have a good holidays

You arent HR person so i am going to take my time.

If you are going to base your judgement on one bad phone calls to a potential talents then God help you because to shortlist best candidate for a job takes time.

Your corruption argument hold no water so because i paid money into your account and you've not seen the alert does that mean am being dishonest??

HR personnels  are slow to anger she only answers my call in an unpolite manner where is your law of second chance bros.

Company have rules regulation and gross misconduct policy. So after her induction she will know the do's and the don't of the organisation..

Foreign client (shaking my head ) so you think i will just employ someone to deal with our foreign client lol well dealing with foreign client job is someone that knows the culture of the business and usually position like that is advertised in-house, or have good succession planning in place that is how it is done sir.

Managerial Finance is not the same as humans resources management. You are going to let someone that has not been embeded into your company organisation culture to deal with foreign clients?? I don't think so.

I placed that call because i know from the interview, cv this person is best candidate for the job so one bad phone manners wont make me change my mind trust me.

Bimboscoo:
By mentioning that name when he was with Rhythm Fm tells me you are above 40 years. Those where the days. I greet you plenty my brother.

Hahaha bros @Bimboscoo yes ooo am old, gonna be 42 later this year. Them days was mint, the likes of JAJ, Brown Sugar (may his soul rest in peace). I remember chucks the space man from brila fm too the list is endless.

I greet you with both hands oo infact tell me when you want my hands to come down

Enjoy your weekend happy easter sir.

pocohantas:
He doesn’t have such plans. This story is an old one, if you look at the too of the thread, you’ll see the link to a similar storyline.

Since all NL guys done turn to job-givers and na women be beneficiaries, make one call me. I want to resume on Tuesday.

Lol you are funny. My prayer be say make God answer your prayer have faith woman

Issues40:
Sadly the reverse is the case in Nigeria here.

God will give you your heart desires in Jesus name.

Originalsly:
It is unacceptable for HR calling someone ... not as a private person... but officially... as a representative of the company.... to make a mistake with common phone courtesy. In companies with professional standards such an HR would face disciplinary action.... removed from the position.... or terminated.

ME ........ Hello
HR.... Am I speaking with Mr So N So?

Mistake?... really?
If he knows he made a mistake then he should overlook the response he received... regardless how crude. He either lacks common phone etiquette.... or is loaded with ego and is a spiteful person.

Omg reading your post gives me goosebumps. Na true u talk. Bottom line is NL or Nigerians are quick to judge i no believe the story because trained HR personnel cant do that trust me.

seunny4lif:
Funny
Even in England, when they call you for Job interviews
Most times they will first confirm maybe they are talking to the right person before introducing themselves.
V: Hello
me: Hello
V: Is that .....
Me: Yes, and who am I speaking to?
V: Then they start

Which part of England are you? I am in England trained HR personnel CIPD qualified member since 2016.

If they call you no matter your manberism i must still introduce myself also you know one can be sued

HR = hello
Applicant = who is this
HR = i am.mr xyz from abc company
Applicant= who gave you this number
HR= Calling because you've been shortlisted to start work next week

It is so simple.

Hr must be calm if you are here you should know

maasoap:
You are one funny dude, you should know that. Someone called you and you're the one introducing yourself first? The fact that you made it a habit doesn't mean that that should be the standard for everyone. The person calling you already knew who he was calling, introducing yourself is not necessary. The person calling you is the one who needs to introduce him/herself. The only thing you owe him is the patience to hear him out.



He made it clear that the girl was also at fault, just that the HR man wasn't entirely blameless. So, why saying that he didn't see what HR saw?



That HR if you asked me, lacks experience. At least, he didn't make use of it.

Yes if the story is true cuz HR no dey behave like that

tojahh:
Abeg pocohantas give me your number make I call you o.

Them say na only girls den dey always give jobs. I get work for you for VI

Believe me. This story is fake! The op just dey jam talk up and down. How can an HR call you and not introduce himself? No matter the situation, even loan companies, when they call, they introduce themselves before going to business.
This na bullshit. The lady even asked *Who is this*? Why didn't the HR respond who he was? He want to play god so the girl will be begging him with tuoto.

Thank you someone finally reasoning. One thing i have learn here is NL are quick to judge without knowing the facts.

I think the op is about to spam NL after Easter for job so this thread is to plant the seed in applicants mind.

Richy4:
Please, I want you to read this interview conversations between 2 job seekers and their HRs and answer the following questions Below

<<<<FIRST JOBSSEEKER WITH HR

HR: Good day! Am I Speaking with XYZ

Job Seeker: Speaking

HR: Hello XYZ, My name is EFG from Abc Bank how are you doing to day?

Job seeker: I'm fine.

HR: You recently had an interview with us 2 weeks ago...I just want to formally congratulate you because you were among the candidate that
was successful bla bla bla...

<<<<<SECOND JOBSEEK SCENE

HR : Good day!! can I speak with XYZ?

Job seeker: Who is this? What do you want? how did you even get my number?

HR: Can I confirm if I'm speaking with XYZ

Jobseeker: If you don't want to tell me who you are just get off my phone ****Cut the call***

Now I have to ask you and I want you to be honest with your answers
<<<<In the first scenario interview, was all professional protocol followed by the HR?
<<<< what did you make out of the two job seekers?
<<<<< Assuming the second job seeker had manners, do you think it would have been effortless like the first?

N.B: I want to let you know that professionally asking first if one can speak to XYZ before introduction is not a wrong move because a lot of job seekers have children, relative etc that might be in possession of the job seeker's phones at that moment...professionals in advanced countries know that..It's like an unwritten rules... You can research it if you like..
Besides, Introducing yourself one million times when you are speaking with the wrong individual could be tiring and exhausting.
By the way, I was not doubting your membership of cipd... Being a member of CIPD stops no professional from knowing phone manners/ professional conversation ethics..

@Richy4. Have you heard of work culture? Society culture? Do you know average Nigerians answer or pick calls by being rude. (If they don't have the number in their contact)

What she did is what every average nigerians would do. I will go ahead and employ the one with bad phone manners because that's how average Nigerians answer phones. Also she knows she was rude to me i still give her the job that will make her be on best behaviour.

How about if your boss thats your superior said employ call miss xyz to resume next week and she was rude to you are you going to say cuz she was rude you won't recruit or employ her.

You seem like someone that like HR, one quality of HR personnel is to keep calm remember you hold all the cards to hiring and firing and best mood is when potential talents start saying sorry etc and you still offer them the job

Have a goid day sir.

donbenie:
Their default settings are rudeness and insults..

How can you explain yourself when you are not given the chance to do so but rather assail by a barrage of insults?

@donbenie i honestly agree with you. Yes the default settings is rudeness insult and abusive words. Look at NL people reply to a faceless people post with abusive and swearing etc. It is the culture there that is normal. But HR person must be calm that is one of the quality of HR personnel.

I've seen a lot cuz of my accent here but the joy i always have is when they start saying sorry etc some do come for induction bringing me chocolate but i cant take it as it is against company policy.

AFONAMARO:
You clearly know nothing about HR. No HR personnel tells an unidentified applicant his mission. He/she would strive to know who is on the phone before stating his/her mission.

When you take a call, you are supposed to at least, say hello, then the caller will introduce his/herself first, then ask if you are so so and so, before giving out his/her mission.

This is done to ensure that no personal information is released to a wrong person

Bros. I am trained HR person and qualified too. I know what am talking about.

search people magazine online read articles on recruitment etc. Watch video on YouTube.

Look at phone conversation culture in nigeria people always say who be this etc the HR person should know that it is normal for average Nigerians to say that.

donbenie:
How could he introduce himself when the mannerless TW4T never gave him the chance to do that?

Hello..

Who be this?

Who gave you my number?

I no dey like disturbances..

Biko nọ dey Call my number..

Bla Bla Bla..

Ha oga the answer is in second question. HR are to be calm.

Who be this? I am xyz from abc bank

I got your number because you apply for this job and you've been shortlisted to start next week. It is as simple as that.

ceejayluv:
Just as another person posted, the lady likely picked the call and didn't talk as some e-ritual scared Nigerians do when they see a strange number.
When the HR guy voiced out, she entered aggressive mode.

Bros that's true but HR people are trained to be calm in all situations even threatening situations you are to be calm. Yeah she went into aggressive mode what we don't know is what she was going through before the call.
As long as she has gone through the interview process and the company shortlisted her one bad phone call shouldn't mustn't make the hr people reject her. In my opinion the HR guy or lady is absolutely wrong.

Ask people that work in customer service call centre they experienced rude and aggressive customer but what they do is isten and try to help.

LegalOpinion:
You are very wrong.

When you place a phone call, the first thing to say is "hello"!

You must have a response before you proceed to say "My name is xxxxx, I am the xxxxx from Bleep. Am I speaking with xxxx?

You don't just ring somebody and start talking like sone kind of programmed robot.

Listen HR personnel are trained to be calmed if i call you as HR consultant i won't get angry because you didn't say hello

As long as i hear a response from you i must proceed because you are rude to me as HR consultant doesn't mean i will be playing "god"

you've gone through the interviews you have been shortlisted meaning you've potential to help the company (bank) grow so one bad mistake from you doesn't mean i will go into anger mode.

Mind you no book say first response must be hello, for all i know you maybe having a bad day as long as i hear a response i have to proceed. My mentality calling to tell u resume Monday is to chear you up not to make your day worse or worst. Have a good day sir

aktolly54:
you might be right but some people mighyt loss job due to similar thing like this.

@aktolly54 you are right mate, i am not disputing that trust me.

You do know that for the fact that we have good HR people doesn't mean we do not have bad ones too hr stafffs that loves acting like god when they have little power to recruit talent. But remember the saying God's time is the best. Cuz some hr staffs are toxic make life hell using power culture.

saphiere:
You said Mike said NO two hours to the wedding. I am asking has Davido said 'NO'?

Nobody know yet cuz no official message from Davido yet, but from his actions in public is like he has move on to another chick interested or him don eat efo riro ati eja kika (love medicine food)

Best thing Chioma can do is child support for their son best package she can get.

Nicklaus619:
Nigeria ladies are so shallow-minded.
That was how I was innocently picking and dropping one lady in my department in the office with my car, the very day I bought my car and start driving it to work, we actually stay one estate apart and I thought it wise since she ain't mobile, let me be helping her, of which my fiance knew and was was cool with, fast forward to after 3 months of constant picking her in the morning and dropping her after work at her gate,

Aunty approached me one day and was like
Nick what do you really want from me because u can't be doing all of this and not wanting something in return?

I was so pissed and disgusted by her foolish comment, but i did not answer her though, I just smile at her, dropped her at her gate as usual and drove home, immediately I got home, aunty has called me like 4 miss call, I eventually retuned her call and she started apologizing for speaking out of tone, I told her not to worry that everywhere good, but that was the last I drove her in my car, up till date she still apologizing, but I no longer give a fvck, most Nigeria ladies thinks every guy always want to toast them. well I shocked her, because my girlfriend is 100 times more endowed and beautiful than her, what could I be wanting from her biko

Kudos to you sir. I like your maturity average african women do think you want sex or something from them... Well not their fault it is how their brain is wired. On a funny side maybe aunty wanted to be giving u cash for fuel now or pay in kind

aktolly54:
mr HR, how did you test patient or temperament of each prospective job seeker?

You can't test it on the phone trust me. Remember people can put up oscar performance over the phone to get a job

2) thats why we do have probation period in the contract because that will let you know their character etc while in same environment with them.

3) moods do affect the way we react sometimes on the phone. Let assume this said lady's just got a sad news eg husband or family member just passed away and the next call is about the job. how do you expect her to react on the phone?

When calling potential talent always ask if they are comfortable to talk and let them know how long you are going to be on the phone for

I strongly believe it is a fake story

Richy4:
I beg to differ with you sir.... The HR is not at fault.... The fact that you started by introducing yourself does not mean it only work that way... It goes both ways..

If you call me for example and I don't know your number, What will it take me to say Hello richy4 speaking.. it's just like a default setting for me.... Then U will say hi to me by calling my name, then introduce yourself to me.... If due to certain reasons you forget to introduce yourself, thinking I know you and might recognize your voice... I will say may I know who is speaking please.... It's just common etiquette and manners.. she is mannerless.

when u said she should have been cautious as a job seeker, were you indirectly implying that she should pretend to be nice while speaking to You as a HR then later unleash the stuff she was made of while working with customers?...No wonder mannerless people occupy customer service positions if U as someone working with HR couldn't see what the other HR saw.... I'm glad that the experienced HR dictated it early.. there were lot of mannerless people in the bank those days especially in First Bank.. Imagine adding this one to their statistics... though I don't know if they were still like that.. .

The HR is at fault. Company do have their own standards operating procedure (s.o.p) now with what i know if am calling you i need to act professional which is

1) introduce myself
2) why am calling
3) am i speaking to mr xyz?
If the answer is yes then i will try to verify if is true or not

That could be any of the following
You full name, address next of kin

If HR cant do all of that then they have failed whole of hr professional.

Go and check youtube check cipd website or people management website. I am active cipd member

EbenezerTriumph:
na my sisters na.
tho generally most Nigerian ladies are rude on phone but my ndito ekas for this side Dem sabi form die

Ha Ebenezer ufan mi, don't mind them joor God no go shame us o.

saphiere:
Has Davido said no? or he's just tormenting the innocent girl.

I honestly dont know but this is the link to the story i was referring to in my previous reply

https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-mike-natalie-critics-cameo-money/amp/

EbenezerTriumph:
eyeneka na so most of our ibibio sisters dey behave when you call them on phone. most are naturally proud and rude

God is watching you on apple tv, for bringing ibiobio sisters here.

firstworld:
The HR person is at fault I am in HR and because of these kinds of reactions, I usually start my calls by introducing myself first so the other person knows who is calling and is at ease. He could have simply said "I am John D calling from bank. That wouldnt hurt. That said, the lady should have been cautious as a job seeker that was just interviewed and expecting phone calls. Lets call a spade a spade please.

The story is fake HR wont do that

knightphoenix:
I'm tempted to insult you but i trust, you'll get that sooner or later.... FYI its their job and its supposed to be like that to test your composure.

No sir

Wisemfon:
A lady I referred for a bank job in the first week of June got a call this morning to resume work at an Uyo branch of the said commercial bank. She was fortunate to be among the few applicants that were shortlisted from among a large pool of graduates who got interviewed for the jobs.
No, but she won't be resuming!

She finally lost the opportunity because of a phone call.
She had received the call in the early hours of today, 10:00am precise. It was from the HR department of the bank.

But she didn't say "hello".

Her first remark when she picked was "who's this?"

Before she got any other reply she added "how did you get my number?"

The HR person goes "Am I speaking to Miss xxxxxxx?"

She felt the question is unnecessary! And she gave her final response.

"Please if you don't want to introduce yourself get out of my phone" that was her final word!

I got a feedback from the HR by 12noon today and I listened to that conversation. Those kinds of phone calls are always recorded for reference purposes.

Aunty lost the job because she lacks Phone Conversations Etiquette! I listened to the recorded version of that conversation.

She lost the job because she believes every unknown male caller is a "chyker".

You see? After all it's not always because HR people are "despicable" as they have been labeled by Nigerians!

Why would a Homosapien answer a phone call like this in the year 2020AD?

Watch out! Your next phone call might be your breakthrough! But your ill-manners could cost you the miracle

The more i read this the more am beginning to think it is fake. Writeup. If HR manager want you to employ mr abc, even if mr abc messed up on the phone they are still going to employe him then train him on his phone manners.

Another example is if personnel director said recruit Mr Abc, and you as the HR assistant or manager called Mr Abc but because mr Abc was rude on the phone to you you are not going to employ mr abc that your director said you should employ.

Oga abeg Stop giving HR people bad name. It is good Friday, am going to save what i think of you for next time.

Karleb:
Making applicants wait for hours is another discussion for another day.

I still don't get why you are dearly defending the mannerless lady. The HR in this scenario has done absolutely nothing wrong.

Why do women even do this shitt? What do you guys gain from being rude to strangers on phone?

Bros I'm a qualified HR personnel, HR do not speak like that on the phone. The first thing you do is introduce yourself as HR personnel because the person (talent) you're calling may not have your number

2) after introducing yourself and why you are calling you can even ask if the talent is free to talk now or he or she want you to rearrange the call also you must be apologetic you are sorry for calling without notice etc.

I have friends in naija that are HR assistant they behave professional that HR personnel was not professional that is why i strongly believe the story is fake.

Wisemfon:
A lady I referred for a bank job in the first week of June got a call this morning to resume work at an Uyo branch of the said commercial bank. She was fortunate to be among the few applicants that were shortlisted from among a large pool of graduates who got interviewed for the jobs.
No, but she won't be resuming!

She finally lost the opportunity because of a phone call.
She had received the call in the early hours of today, 10:00am precise. It was from the HR department of the bank.

But she didn't say "hello".

Her first remark when she picked was "who's this?"

Before she got any other reply she added "how did you get my number?"

The HR person goes "Am I speaking to Miss xxxxxxx?"

She felt the question is unnecessary! And she gave her final response.

"Please if you don't want to introduce yourself get out of my phone" that was her final word!

I got a feedback from the HR by 12noon today and I listened to that conversation. Those kinds of phone calls are always recorded for reference purposes.

Aunty lost the job because she lacks Phone Conversations Etiquette! I listened to the recorded version of that conversation.

She lost the job because she believes every unknown male caller is a "chyker".

You see? After all it's not always because HR people are "despicable" as they have been labeled by Nigerians!

Why would a Homosapien answer a phone call like this in the year 2020AD?

Watch out! Your next phone call might be your breakthrough! But your ill-manners could cost you the miracle

Which HR you guys dey do for Nigeria? When HR call the 1st thing tney do is introduced themselves and reasons for calling befor proceedings to am speaking to mr xyz if you day yes you are my xyz next question is to confirm your name, address etc if it matches what's on your cv.

Either the HR person that called is not trained HR assistant or your story is not true.

I come in peace

Gosh that is sexual assault on your wife. In a lawful country that is jail and his name on sex register. If a girl said no, you leave her and walk away. See yahoo boys paying 50k for sex chai they are suffering from low self esteem who pay for sex these days?

For those of you trashing the op. You're a monster i hope your sisters,nieces or daughter won't experience such.

Lastly, ore fighting isnt always best answer you should have call police and sue for sexual assault he is going to shit himself

saphiere:
I am not angry over him sleeping around but the embarrassment he has cost Chioma. How many of these celebs you mentioned has promised to marry the ladies they sleep with and even go as far as meeting their parents for introduction?

I don't know any off hand now but i can dig it out . It happens everywhere Mike on 90 days fiancee brought Natalia from Ukraine to USA, after 88 days he said no 2 hours before their wedding as of last episodes. So it do happens. Davido us going to be okay people should be more worry on Chioma mental state. I pray she's okay cuz it must be hard. Davido in my opinion has done nothing wrong

she was engage then cancelled Happened to