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PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 5:32am On Jul 11, 2019
jceesquare:
It's easy to know which is true and which is false.
Hire another surveyor or go and verify that document at the ministry of lands yourself then kindly come back to give your finding sirs.
You think l will do a Survey and not allow my lawyer take the redcopy for verification at Alausa?
I have lands l have been keeping since as far back as 2001 (for value appreciation in EtiOsa LGA, around that LBS and you think l can leave such land worth over #50M/plot, with survey not properly done and verified?

That is not even the issue here so why digress.
CelebritiesRe: "We Should Have Just Lost To Egypt Rather Than Nigeria" - SA Rapper, AKA Says by Daboomb: 4:21am On Jul 11, 2019
BabaIbo:
Don't worry, by the time we are through with paying you guys back for the attacks on Nigerians in your country, you people will register with CONMEBOL...

Shush it please, to me the biggest rivalry is Nigeria vs Cameroon, the guy take style dey hype him country
Its really sad that Nigeria's football had descended so low that a rag-tag team like South Africa, a team that we will beat 6-0 or 8-0 on a normal day, in the days when Nigeria had the likes of Yekini, Okocha, Oliseh, Taribo, Finito, e.t.c on line up, is here lamenting that we beat them 2-1?

If not that this useless german Coach our corrupt NFF officials loaded on us, a Coach that does not know his left from his right (even SiaSia's team was better than these useless bunch of players on the field today), how can we parade a bunch of unintelliegent misfits who cant trap the ball, cant make a good pass, cant head the ball, cant build play from behind, cant defend and are just running around the field like a headless chicken who can only beat that collection of eleven, left-footed villagers calling themselves Bayanabayana, 2-1?

Honestly, l feel that we should withdraw this team from the competition and allow the clueless South Africans to go ahead because this unintelliegent set of Super Eagles dont represent our level of football in Nigeria. They are a disgrace and it is time for Coach Rohr to go back home, he has not added any value to our football but rather caused a premature collapse of our style & quality of football.

As for SA, they dont really know how to play football, they are just kindergartens.
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Daboomb: 10:03pm On Jul 10, 2019
Nigeria and Nigerian Football Administrators (NFF) needs to really be ashamed of themselves if these bunch of UNINTELLIEGENT and RUDDERLESS MISFITS is all they could gather in a Nation of 200Million footbal-crazy players!

It is certain that our football has really gone down to a disgraceful level and it is even made worse by this Clueless German Coach they brought it, who cant find eleven good footballers in Nigeria but is always IMPORTING some Mediocres from Europe (As long as they dont play in Nigeria, they are good enough!)


I love watching Nigerians play but even a fan like me is tired of watching this kind of mediocre performance, day-in, day-out.
From the Under 21, to the Women and now this useless bunch, it is just too much embarrassment in four weeks.

On a good day, even our local league team like Eyinmba, MFM, Tornado or Kano Pillars, Sunshine Stars, will beat this "No-Skill" South African team at least 2-0.
Just look at the players we have who cant string three passes together, cant control the ball, the striker (ighalo) is tripping himself in front of an open goal instead of kicking the ball inside the goalpost!


Somebody should please tell me ONE THING that these bunch of misfits did right today.
I want ot hear it.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 4:11pm On Jul 10, 2019
AngelicBeing:
If you remember the logo in my post below , you should decode who l am talking about, another clue is he likes classic cars, an advocate for home owners having guns to protect themselves and fearful dogs in your house grin
We all do.
Our brother loves Wild Dogs, imports everything from Lowes Stores in America, loves then hates Brabus, has fought with almost everyone on this thread and it is always his way or the highway.

but he's a good crack though and not to forget that he loves PowerBike like a Redneck.

I dont think we need to mention his name since he has deactivated that username and now posts under a new one.
#OkoAfusa for El Presidente.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 4:03pm On Jul 10, 2019
RedMapleConsult:
Pls don't say what you don't know, You can't survery even a quarter plot in Lagos with 200k
darenyx:
It not extortion, I recently did a survey for a half plot for 600k... There's no way you can get a survey in Lagos for 200k, that's how people fall into wrong hands
Certainly not true!
I did TWO plots for #350K in Lagos recently and they initially asked for #200K per plot.


Some actually do it for as low as #150K per plot.
Just say that YOU cant do it for that amount, not that others cant do it for that amount or even less.
I know your association upped the price about a year or two ago but that does not means some members who are reasonable and flexible will stick to that exorbitant directive.

And this is a Registered Surveyor that l had known for over two decades when survey was #50K/plot so the issue of "wrong hands" is a red herring.
CrimeRe: IMN: El-zakyazky Group Attempting To Overthrow Buhari Govt - Group Cries Out by Daboomb: 3:39pm On Jul 10, 2019
bizhop01:
Another terrorist group loading,
in 7 months time i will be out of this country for good.
To be another refugee in another man's country where you will be treated no better than you are being treated in Nigeria or have fifteen bullets dumped into your body by a White Policeman?

You people who have never lived abroad think once you escape to a whiteman's country, all your problems will disappear?
Hmmm.........Anyway, they say "Experience is the best teacher".

I wish you safe journey biiko.
CrimeRe: IMN: El-zakyazky Group Attempting To Overthrow Buhari Govt - Group Cries Out by Daboomb: 3:34pm On Jul 10, 2019
Kingosytex:
Buhari is the one attempting to overthrow himself by going against court orders.

He is indirectly breeding another terrorist group.
Look, Stop comparing Apples and Oranges.

Governments all over the world, do Appeal or disobey Court orders, "if" there is a danger to National Security (they have to prove this beyond doubt).

That cannot justify what these IMN group just did: THEY ATTACKED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
For that alone, they have lost any sympathy members of the Public may have had for them and have made themselves PUBLIC ENEMY MUMBER ONE.
We cant use illegality of this sort, to justify another illegality that their leader is being held under house arrest, for terrorism


I watched the videos and l was wondering whether it was the innocent passers-by they attacked or destroyed their vehicle or shot at, that detained their leader.

Now, to attacking the National Assembly is another level of terrorism
. It is never allowed anywhere in the world.

Govt must therefore now take a very FIRM ACTION against this group before they metamorphosed into a full blown terror organisation like Boko Haram or ISIS.
PROTESTING CIVILY (like they did against Senator Abbo and COZA Pastor) is all legal but the moment you start snatching weapons and shooting others, you become a danger to society and Law enforcement must deal with these people with overwhelming force.

Stamp them out now before we all start regretting, l understand they have also been undergoing military training (hence their ability to "snatch and operate" the weapons they stole from law enforcement agents)
CrimeRe: Whoever Takes Money For Bail Is A Kidnapper, Says Lagos CP by Daboomb: 2:47pm On Jul 10, 2019
psucc:
Now let's see the logic:
Kidnappers arrest people and collect money to free them
Police arrest people and collect money to free them
The two sets of people arrest people and collect money to free them
Therefore, Police (who collect bail money) are Kidnappers - Lagos CP.

Therefore all police officers are kidnappers

Like for true; share for false
You lost it towards the end, and l have corrected your post to make it "logical".

All Kidnappers kidnap people and demand for Ransom Money, to free them
Police who arrest people and demand for Bail Money, to free them......ARE KIDNAPPERS

Therefore, it is the Policemen/Policewomen who DEMAND for BAIL MONEY that are Kidnappers, not all Police do so.
PoliticsRe: Falana On Elisha Abbo: Senators Have No Right To Question Abbo Over Assault by Daboomb: 2:27pm On Jul 10, 2019
plaindealer:
The man should have resigned, his party should have forced to step down.


..but I do agree with Falana, the case is in court so the Senate should wait till the court renders it's decision.
It was "his people" that elected him, not his party.
Only "his people" can recall him from the Senate
PoliticsRe: Falana On Elisha Abbo: Senators Have No Right To Question Abbo Over Assault by Daboomb: 2:23pm On Jul 10, 2019
paroh137:
My own problem is Tinubu telling the man "Do you want us to protect you or you want to be on your own?"
Protrect him for and from what please?
Which Tinubu are you referring to?

Is it the one that Senator Dino Me-Lying promised to Rape on the floorof the Senate till she gets pregnant.....and nothing happened

or the Tinubu that imposing Agberoos and Political thugs as Local Goverment Chairmen in Lagos


Please be very clear because we need to know which one to stone, if the need arises.
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CrimeRe: Man Commits Suicide After A Colleague Lied Against Him & He Was Fired - Twitter by Daboomb: 2:16pm On Jul 10, 2019
princekalani:
This story looks like tales by moonlight. Twitter stories, its always their friends or some one told them.
Never believe everything you hear online especially from twitter.
Even if it was real, one had to qualify for a "Stupidity Nobel Prize", if after anything happenes, you just go and commit suicide.

Can somebody tell this dead fool that "Life has no Duplicate"?
angry angry angry

Stop killing yourselves over issues you will definitely get over with, in a few months time.
If you must do anything about the pain, .....Kneel Down and Pray, Pray, Fast and Pray even more. The Lord will heal you

Foolish Cowards, awon Weyrey
PoliticsRe: Saraki Hosts Senate Minority Leaders To Closed-door Meeting (photos) by Daboomb: 2:09pm On Jul 10, 2019
couragemurphy:
Se as Saraki agbada rough, abi no more laundry allowance? Otoge!!!!
O'togee Allowance Oooooo

PoliticsRe: Saraki Hosts Senate Minority Leaders To Closed-door Meeting (photos) by Daboomb: 2:03pm On Jul 10, 2019
MetaPhysical:
We told you all, Atiku had his last opportunity in 2019. See Saraki already off the block for 2023.

Saraki in particular wants to make a statement and prove his weight, ....but all na wash! Na APC go still win! grin
Association of Back-stabbers and Saboteurs don launch be that. kiss kiss kiss

Next thing Saraki will try, is to use these ones to undermine the authority of the APC House/Senate President.
But then, l am sure Gbaja and Lawan are up to the task, as long-standing members of the house and they can deal with any saboteur in the house.

As for Saraki 2023? That one is D.O.D, as in "Dead on Arrival".
Every corner of Nigeria knows Saraki for who he is and even those that would vote based on "hatred and anger", know what a Snake and a backstabber Saraki is.
Politically, Saraki is dead and buried.

The CURSE or PRAYER of a Father, are Potent.

EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 1:30pm On Jul 10, 2019
Lifestone:
I thought this case went to court? Why would they take the law into their hands
That is what Islamic terrorist and Fundamentalist do, it is their way of life! angry
Whenever they cant win a legal or logical argument (because their position is illega and illogical), they resort to violence.
Just look at those "Islamic, Fulani Herdsmen" and what they are doing all over the place.
undecided undecided
Its a religion of "peace", mind you.
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PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 10:28am On Jul 10, 2019
Buckubuck:
You're really living in a bubble bros. Which serious organization issues directives on change in operational procedures to its staff on TV!! I'm sure you're smarter than this, you're just clutching unto straw to keep alive a dead argument.

It will be highly irresponsible of INEC to even say they expected their staff to get the information about change in SOP via TV. Every organization has its own internal channel of communication and i'm sure INEC is not an exception. As a matter of fact, this ur assertion may mean INEC used subterfuge to deceive everyone while going ahead to do electronic transmission. Do you know the implication of that? Pls think before you write!!
Well, that is your cup of tea, we will all be alive to witness the decision of the Supreme Court .....
Even President Trump of All mighty America, issues "State Policy Directives" on Twitter ......and it gets obeyed.

I am sure you expect, in your own "wisdom", that when the INEC chair needs to make "policy changes", a day to the election, he would go and Print it on Paper and then start to look for ways to distribute it, like using UPS or he would go on a Canoe and paddle it to people in the Creeks.
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If you dont know the reason why they call "TV" a means of mass-communication, that should nto be my own worry, what you know is a function of what you know and it appears you dont know better.

Some of us are always thinking and we dont need you to tell us to think before we write, since that is your own style of engagement and it shows in some of your posts because l am sure that up till now, you still cant digest the implications of the President not signing the Amendment Bill which allows "electronic transmission of results", into Law!
That is why you keep harping on this your Server! Server!! Server!!! despite overwhelming evidence that INEC is prohibitted by law, from transmitting any result electronically to any Server.


Honestly, l have tried more than enough to "educate" people like you but it is obvious that l will have to use an axe to make it sink in (which l cant do).
Let us wait for the Supreme Court to decide and like it happened in the Adeleke/Osun case, Atiku will congratulate Buhari and peeps like you can go-away quietly to lick your 'self-inflicted' wounds. grin grin undecided undecided

Have a nice day and dont come back with some "concealed" insult, ...............l full ground, well-well o
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PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 10:07am On Jul 10, 2019
teadrake:
For the avoidance of doubt, you've made quite an elaborate submission on this subject and I want to take the time to commend your detailed analysis. However, I would like to point out that no election is 100% perfect and it is expected that INEC should improve as a matter of urgency because we experienced so many unfortunate scenario and cases during the last election that if I should start analysing it here is going to spark a lot of danger.
Since the issue of who should transmit the election/existence of server and other issue related are before the tribunal, I think the tribunal should be able to resolve it. However, I would like us to understand that just like our constitution, there are many loopholes in our electoral law and something urgent should be done. Personally suggested some recommendations to be implemented by INEC in the suggestion booklet given to us for subsequent election and I hope they act on it as Prof. Said they've collated all for expedient action.
Thank you sir.
I agree 100% with your submission Sir.
That election was fraught with so much imperfections.
Like you said, no election is perfect...but we should strive to IMPROVE on the conduct, as we move forward.

I have seen videos, l have personally witnessed a lot of rigging during the elections and as fair-minded people, we can agree that both major parties are guilty of electoral malfeanse, with respect to this last election.

If l compare the last election to the 2015 election, l would say the 2015 was conducted much better than this one, IMO.
Chairman Mahmoud needs to be more decisive in decision making, one of his major blunder was to agree not to use the military to assist in the elections. Why do l say this?
We all know how evil our Politicians are, we know they would go to any desperate length to thwart the wil of the people because they dont want our votes to count, as they know we will reject the frauds among them.

We are all also aware of how corrupt and cowardly, our Police force has become (this corruption has spread into ur Youth Corpers as well!). As far as they are concerned, the election is about making as much money as possible, from corrupt Politicians.

If we put all the above together, it puts forward the need to have the military to ASSIST the other security agents, to maintain law and order during elections.
Without fear or favor, l think Nigerians still respect the military more than the Police because they are less corrupt in "open service" (as opposed to institutionalised corruption within their heirachy), they can show bravery in the face of battle (unlike Policemne that remove their Uniform and run away like rats!) and they are the only ones that the Political thugs respect.

We need the military to "police" our Ballot boxes, ensure that citizens can vote without fear from political thugs hwo come with guns and dangerous weapons to kill and maim voters on behalf of politicians.

It was the lack of adequate security that made a mess of this last election.


But having said all that, we should also realise that INEC was facing a new and unpreviously experienced threat in the form of HACKING of its Servers.
And we are in an era of technology but it is shameful (and l think that angle should be properly investigated so perpetrators can be brought to book, to serve as a deterent in future elections)..it is shameful that an aspirant that wants to rule this country, provided money to RECRUIT HACKERS whose job is to compromise and manipulate election results being transmitted to INEC servers, for their own benefit.
That is a TREASONABLE OFFENCE.

INEC was definitely not prepared for such challenges though l hope they have learnt their lessons.
- INEC need to focus on protection of its Assets
- INEC needs to be better prepared in deploying human and technical resources to the field
- INEC needs to employ people trained in technology, the best that are available and shun Nepotistic employments
- INEC needs to train and retrain its staff and make sure they are patriotic and honest
- INEC needs to develop its one Network backbone, harden it and make it hack-proof
- E-Voting is the way to go and INEC must focus on ways to delivering "Network and Power" in remote areas, to ensure that their is connection at all times, so we can use E-voting.
These are just my own submissions.

I want to thank people like you who had made the discussion worthwhile and civil.
Have a blessed day ahead.
EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 9:30am On Jul 10, 2019
TommyAnthem:
You keep referencing advance countries which we all know
to be mostly western countries with predominantly Christian population, but they have given so much to Islam, "though they are paying dearly for it right now" please tell me any reform Saudi Arabia has done to accomodate rights and freedom of other religion.
You mean the same Saudi Arabia that is cutting Journalist like Kashogi into pieces with a Bone-Saw, same Saudi Arabia that is murdering Babies and children in Yemen, another Muslim country?

Abeg, that Saudi Arabia is where Satan has its World Headquarters......and to think that is where People go for Pilgrimage?
Same thng with Israel that is practising aparthied against the Palestinians, two wicked and devilish countries where dumb people go on Pilgrimage to see "god"
. grin grin grin grin grin
Most Nigerians are real religious Muumu.
EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 9:23am On Jul 10, 2019
Debaiz:
Did you read the below or you’re just here o display your ignorance as usual?

ISI cannot make any law that goes against the constitution of nigeria that owns it and if they do it is null, void, invalid and illegal.
So, because ISI belongs to the University of Ibadan, a Federal University, does that means it does not have Rules and Regulations governing its daily activities?
"Some" of you Muslims are just rabble-rousers!

If you are so deeply concerned about your child wearing a Hijab in School, the SENSIBLE thing to do is to enrol her in a Muslim School like Ansaruudeen, Nawal-islam and more that a thousand of Religious Muslim Schools we have all over the place.
Dont chose a "SECULAR School" like ISI for your child and tend try to FORCE it to become an Islamic School.

All these agression and terrorism are giving a bad name to the "Religion of Peace".
Let us see the "Peace" in your Words and Actions towards your fellow Nigerians
EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 11:53am On Jul 09, 2019
Sterope:
Inasmuch I don't like MURIC

Seriously, what busines if theirs is it.with Ruga, Fulani herdsmen, Leah sharibu?

Are they the Nigerian government that have sworn to protect you? You better go and hold your government accountable. You have been 'lucky' to be born a Nigerian and lucky to have an education, you should know better
So all those Nigerian speaking against the attrocities of Fulani herdsmen or RUGA or asking that Leah Sharibu, a Christian captured by MUSLIM terrorists be freed.........are "Nigerian Govt.", right?

"Action Speaks louder than Voice; A Fruit does not fall far from it s tree". undecided undecided

Hypocrisy will not kee-mee
.
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EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 11:48am On Jul 09, 2019
HeyCorleone:
It's not a matter of decency.

Besides, it's only people who don't reason well that believe that a piece of cloth over someone's head immediately makes that person more moral of whatever.

Hijab had nothing to do with the religion. It's more of a cultural or ethnic appropriation, from the people of the Arab region. Non-Muslim folks in that part also adorn the hijab.

So I don't understand why Nigerian Muslims take very irrelevant things into mind. It's appalling, and, of a truth, quite distressing.
it is called FANATISM......when religion rules the brain and makes decision for it.
To them, they are defending their religion, like any God needs defending if the people themselves are not fanatics in the first place!
Moreso, they are all hypocrites, white-washing the "outside", while the "inside" is filth and rotten.

People forget that it is your behaviour towards others that really matters to God, not whether you cover yourself with hundred yards of tarpulin in blinding heat or speak some unintelligible gibberish.
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EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 11:42am On Jul 09, 2019
bbamusa:
it the school a christian school? why do religious fanatics like muscling other faith into abandoning their region just like they did totheir own.
Obviously you cant read and when you manage to do, you cant comprehend!
Otherwise youwill see and count how many times l called the School a SECULAR academic institution, in my post you quoted.
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Use Google, if you dont know the meaning of "Secular", l just wont waste my precious time educating people whose religious fanatism has stopped the brain from going into gear.
EducationRe: Muric's Position On Hijab Saga In International School Ibadan by Daboomb: 11:20am On Jul 09, 2019
TimmyA:
This mumuric did not reject RUGA
Dont mind the Islamic jihadist!
what concerns and international School which has its own uniform, just like other SECULAR schools of that nature, with Hijab?
The school is not asking your Muslim Children to wear Sultana like celestial Church or anything against your religion, yet you are trying to upset the school academic calendar?

If you are so concerned about the wearing of Hijab, why dont you just take your children to any of the thousands of Islamic schools that litter the whole place, where you can even put them in full Purdah?


International Scholl Ibadan, like its compatriots in all other higher institutions, are academic centeres of learning, SECULAR learning only.
Its not by force your child must attend ISI, if religion is your main pre-occupation.

Dont bring your usual, aggressive way of religion into a school for children because the children dont actually care so much about all these things, it is you Islamic fundamentalist adults that are pushing the agenda.

The People of the South West are known for being tolerant and welcoming of other religions. Islamic or Christians, dont come and sow the seed of intolerance, division and terrorism in the South West. Oyo State Gov must stamp out this nonsense before it gets too far.
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 11:09am On Jul 09, 2019
teadrake:
On the 12th of January, 2019 Inec released regulations and guidelines with respect to the election and I would like you to pay careful attention here. "In compliance with 1999 constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria as amended and the Electoral Act of 2010 (As amended),these regulations and guidelines shall be used in the conduct of 2019 elections".
This regulations and guidelines comprises of 52 section carved out of the 2010 electoral act (as amended) and a particular Section (Section 22) of that guidelines emphatically stated thus with clauses " Transmission of results " affirmed that "The Presiding Officer is REQUIRED to TRANSMIT the results of the election obtained at the PU...(Let me stop here being the relevant part needed for this clarification and not necessarily argument sir).
Transmission of results via any channel whatsoever is solely the duty of the P.O as stated in the electoral act 2010 (as amended). Does that answer the question?
Sir, if l juxtapose your contribution above with the one l made earlier (quoted below) you would see that there is a time-lag between your post, my post below and the ACTUAL date of the election, which are all corroborated by the contents of my post below.

- Your guideline was issued on JANUARY 12th, almost a Month before the date of election and you relied on these guidelines, throughout. that guideline proposed that you do electronic transmission of results, as well as accreditation, in line with the proposed Amended electoral Act of 2019. At this satge of Jan 12th, everything was still going according to plan.

- TWO days before election, when it became clear to the INEC Chairman that the Amended Electoral Bill of 2019 will not be signed into law by the President (and it would therefore be illegal to rely on it to conduct the election, vis-a-vis the use of Electronic Transfer of result (something the Electoral Act/LAW of 2010 prohibits), INEC Chairman issued a Press Statement to counter the earlier guidelines he had given his P.O's and ther field officers but l guess that due to logistics of shifting the election, they could not Print out another Handbook as guideline but since the Briefing was done on TV, it was assumed that the information will trickle down to all INEC Staff.

- Less than A day to the election, the election itself was shifted and that was when INEC again told us that there was attempts by some actors to Hack into Servers and that INEC Servers will be offline and not used for Transmission of election., which again fits into the post l quoted below.
So, it was a combination of trying to organise the election within Applicable, current Laws and the "anticipated but refused" Bill (not law yet) of the 2019 Act and trying to stay legal and prevent possible Court nullification of the whole exercise as not being compliant with the Law, that made INEc Chairman to change his guidelines at the last minute but l guess some field officers in remote areas may not be privy to on th spot information, when in the field.


However, Buhari vetoed the bill, saying some of its provisions would cause confusion for INEC since the elections were too close for their implementation.

The source said while it (INEC) was ready to transmit the results electronically, there were fears that the court could nullify them, if asked to, for violating the subsisting Electoral Act (2010), as amended.

However, he said he did not want to say much on the matter since it was part of the issues to be determined by the Presidential Election Tribunal.

The source said: “Yes, we have a server or website. We have a website for the registration of voters. We have a server for political parties’ registration where all data are stored. We also operated a pilot transmission of results in the Ondo and Osun State governorship elections.

“But all our efforts came to nothing with the president not signing the Electoral Act (Amendment Bill) in the twilight of our preparations for the elections. So, we consulted on what to do and we were advised to stick to the subsisting laws on the elections. This is because to insist on going ahead with the electronic transmission of election results could put the elections in great danger.

“Someone could go to court and say that we operated outside of the constitutionally-recognised rules of the elections. Someone could go to court and the elections would be declared null and void.”
Every P.O who claims to transmit election result electronically, though an effort in futility, was "acting outside of the constitutionally-recognised rules of the elections, stipulated by the Electoral Act/Law 2010, though some did so out of ignorance/lack of current information about the current situation on ground, as they were relying on the guidelines INEC gave them about a month ago, guidelines which where then invalidated within twenty four hours of/to the election proper, itself.

Now, would the Court rely on the testimony of a P.O or RATECH who acted based on an invalidated directive and contrary to the constitutionally recognised law guiding the election?
I know the Court of Law does not give life to illegality and the actions of such P.O's and RATECH are obviosuly illegal.


Thank you.
PoliticsRe: Senator Abbo Taking Selfies And Laughing In Court, Nigerians React (Photos) by Daboomb: 3:52am On Jul 09, 2019
SmartMugu:
He hasn't done nothing wrong by taking selfies. If he had refused to take selfies with those that requested to take pictures with him, he would have been labelled 'arrogant'. He agreed to take selfies now and he's being labeled 'unapologetic'. What would anyone have done in his shoes?
Dont mind Nigerians and their hypocritical mob mentality sha.

- He was not the one taking pictures of himself (Selfie), it was third parties who asked him for a selfie with them.
Question is should he have refused the offer? If he does, the same people abusing him here are the ones that will add "crass arrogance" to his offense!

- If people are not too engrossed in their mob mentality, they would have noticed that the "Court Session" has ended, when the photo was being taken.
Senator or anyone for that matter, obviosuly cant be taking pictures while a Judge is present and sitting in his Court.

While no one is happy with the savagery of this Senator, since the matter is already in Court, Nigerian-Amebos need to find the next Gossip to chew on, since that is what keeps most of them alive. undecided undecided

Discussing the laglity of otherwise of a matter before a Judge, is actually a CONTEMPT of Court.

What do l know sef.

BTW: The NASS can only suspend him for a while, the only way to COMPLETELY REMOVE him from the Senate is to RECALL him, by collecting enough signatures from his consitutents, instituting a recall process and God help you, if you can sail it through. No need abusing other Senators over it.
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 3:41am On Jul 09, 2019
teadrake:
Respectfully sir,are you doubting the veracity of my submission with respect to Ratech not being in charged of the subject matter?
Admittedly, this scenario might not be uniform across the country but the electoral Act of 2010 (As amended) is clear about individual position and responsibilities.
Let me cite a reference sir,one of my APOs (specifically APO 1) who is in charge of verification left during the election process and I was forced to take up his responsibility since we're after the successful conduct of the election.
Don't know if have answered your question,sir.
Somehow, you did Sir. You provided the law l had in mind.

The only other thing you can do for both of us, is to go through the section that deals with TRANSMISSION of Election results, from that Law.
I am certain you will, like thousands of other people, see tha it specifically PROHIBITS the ELECTRONIC (Client-to-Server) transmission of results
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(it does not prohibit "electronic accreditaion" using a Card Reader, mind you.)

If the above is true, from alegal point of view, (which is what a Law (Supreme) Court is all about), would you agree with me that if the 2010 Electoral Act (which is the only election law in force, when that election was conducted) prohibits something, and the Unpire said it also obeyed that law by not doing that which is prohibited and INSTRUCTING it's staff not to do same, no amount of deviation from such instruction by any staff or any cadre, can give "life or legality" to any action arising from such deviation or breaking of the law.

The worst that can/may happen is that those who intentionally own-up to breaking that law (like that particular RATECH giving evidence under oath), could/would be made to face the music, as scape goats, ....if just to reaffirm that what they did was prohibitted by an existing law, not to mention that it wasn't their assigned duty! grin grin undecided undecided
I hope it does not get to that sha.


Thank you and many others here, for the engaging discussion.
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 3:28am On Jul 09, 2019
RTSC:
You holds the Guy in some form of esteem.
He is an ethnic bigot, nothing more.

I just dey look am.
You better keep "looking am"... tongue tongue
I dont expect a riffraff like you to hold me in high esteem, if that is your source of "Sifia Pains".
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PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 7:14pm On Jul 08, 2019
Kenturkey048:
senior all RATECH guys were given a Samsung TAB,subbed with a GLO sim..basically for results transmission electronically ...meaning we connected our SCR through the WIFI of the Samsung TAB..

make we leave atiku and buhari out of this..is INEC actually playing with the intelligence of Nigerians at large.huh
I agree with what you stated above but please read what INEC officer said here, quoted in my last post on page 5.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/06/20/how-presidential-veto-frustrated-electronic-transfer-of-2019-polls-results/

However, Buhari vetoed the bill, saying some of its provisions would cause confusion for INEC since the elections were too close for their implementation.

The source said while it was ready to transmit the results electronically, there were fears that the court could nullify them, if asked to, for violating the subsisting Electoral Act (2010), as amended.

However, he said he did not want to say much on the matter since it was part of the issues to be determined by the Presidential Election Tribunal.

The source said: “Yes, we have a server or website. We have a website for the registration of voters. We have a server for political parties’ registration where all data are stored. We also operated a pilot transmission of results in the Ondo and Osun State governorship elections.

“But all our efforts came to nothing with the president not signing the Electoral Act (Amendment Bill) in the twilight of our preparations for the elections. So, we consulted on what to do and we were advised to stick to the subsisting laws on the elections. This is because to insist on going ahead with the electronic transmission of election results could put the elections in great danger.

“Someone could go to court and say that we operated outside of the constitutionally-recognised rules of the elections. Someone could go to court and the elections would be declared null and void.”
INEC planned to use the Server,
INEC prepared and trained staff (PO's) to use the Server and RATECh to assit them if they have a "technical problem".

But at the last minute, the Electoral Amendment bill they hope would LEGALISE the use of the Server, WAS NOT SIGNED into Law!
From that moment, to use the Server will invalidate the whole election .............so its use was cancelled at the last minute.

Most people cant follow that train of thought
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 7:08pm On Jul 08, 2019
Please guys, watch Channels TV right now, it is interviewing with the INEC National Officer, Festus Okoye undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 7:01pm On Jul 08, 2019
Buckubuck:
P.Os do not operate with electoral laws. They work based on INEC guidelines given to them. Electoral law no concern PO or APO or RATECH. Also, note that the RATECH did not say he transmitted results. What he said is that[b] it is wrong for any APO to claim that results were not transmitted electronically cause that will mean he did not do his job as instructed by INEC[/b]
Thank you Sir, you have answered the question, as bolded above.

let me just add that it is impossible, for INEC to ask anyone to transmit the result electronically (after they realised, a day to election, that Mr. President has refused assent to the new elelctoral Bill which would have authorised such electronic transmission.

To do so is to invalidate the whole election because it would be breaking the existing law, which prohibits the transmission of result electronically.

Please read it here: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/06/20/how-presidential-veto-frustrated-electronic-transfer-of-2019-polls-results/


However, Buhari vetoed the bill, saying some of its provisions would cause confusion for INEC since the elections were too close for their implementation.

The source said while it was ready to transmit the results electronically, there were fears that the court could nullify them, if asked to, for violating the subsisting Electoral Act (2010), as amended.

However, he said he did not want to say much on the matter since it was part of the issues to be determined by the Presidential Election Tribunal.

The source said: “Yes, we have a server or website. We have a website for the registration of voters. We have a server for political parties’ registration where all data are stored. We also operated a pilot transmission of results in the Ondo and Osun State governorship elections.

“But all our efforts came to nothing with the president not signing the Electoral Act (Amendment Bill) in the twilight of our preparations for the elections. So, we consulted on what to do and we were advised to stick to the subsisting laws on the elections.
This is because to insist on going ahead with the electronic transmission of election results could put the elections in great danger.

“Someone could go to court and say that we operated outside of the constitutionally-recognised rules of the elections. Someone could go to court and the elections would be declared null and void.
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 6:55pm On Jul 08, 2019
Buckubuck:
I'll be waiting for your link but until you get that link, know that the position of INEC is that there is no server for collating results
I will try my best to find it but should l not be successful, your position above that l highlighted, is the same as mine, the only possible difference is "The reason" adduced. (I hope l am correct in that assertion?)

So, technically, we both agree that INEC did not use (since there wasn't any Server for collating result) a Server to "electronically transmit" the election results (doing so will contravene the electoral act guiding that election).

INEC is not going to contravene the law and indict itself, just to please Atiku or make him win
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PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 6:50pm On Jul 08, 2019
teadrake:
I served as a presiding officer in the controversial election and I can tell you that it was our sole duty as P.Os to transmit the results obtained by each party electronically via the Smart card reader(I still have the code with me) RaTech had no business transmitting results whatsoever as it wasn't listed in their job description.
However,some of our colleagues,after the unimaginable stress couldn't proceed with it and left it with Ratech.
Admitting to transmitting the results by Ratech is unfortunate and won't hold substance.
Sir,
Can l ask you, as a P.O: Which Law/Act are you aware, that was the guiding law, to the election you presided over.
If you are not aware of which one, that is okay as l am also aware that it is not your duty to bother with that part of the election, l just want to have your own opinion on the law.
PoliticsRe: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 6:44pm On Jul 08, 2019
Buckubuck:
You have been arguing intelligently before now. Don't add what is not there to it. INEC chairman never came out to say INEC Server will be shutdown. I'll like you to post a link of where he said that. Even till now, INEC is still denying the existence of the so-called server. So how can he shutdown what doesn't exist.
2. Buhari refused to sign the 2018 bill due to time constraint according to him. He said the elections were too close. So, I don't know where you got your theory of hackers from. It'll be good if you can provide a link as well.
Eeehm...Sir.
I heard it with my own ears Sir, a day or two before the election. (Server will be offline).
I also heard him (and l am sure you also did, that the Amended Electoral bill WAS NOT signed into Law by the President.

But if you still insist Sir, that he never said the Server will not be used as election wont, cant and must not be transmitted electronically to/through a Server, can l ask you Sir: What is the position of the Law used to conduct that Presidential election (2015 Elelctoral Act), in relation to the use of an Electronic Server?

In that answer lies the position of the INEC chairman.

INEC definitely has to deny the existence of "that Server" that Atiku said exists because to not do so it to "self convict" themselves that they broke the Elelctoral Act and to give credence to Atiku! Who does that?
It is the burden of the accuser, to provide the evidence to support your claim....you cant be asking the person you accused, to provide evidence to convict themselves, Sir
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NB: I am trying to see if lcan still get the briefing (I heard it on TV).

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