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Yes!!! Surely we can defend a two goal lead. Come on boys.

Dinocarex:
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I'm telling you. They are old... And someone will be shouting Africans are cheat when it comes to age competition.

South Americans and those Latino countries na dem worse pass. See Diego Costa claiming 26

pelezico:
I dont like this Nigerian team - yes there are winning but theres a lack of team play - everyone wants to be the hero here. Theres little team play going on.

Which is typical of youth football. Everyone wants to impress lurking scouts.

Chai. This Chuckweizer boy.

Today na today. We may have a penalty like scoreline today. I'm going for 5-3 in favour of Nigeria.

Chai.! This is the beauty of U-17 football. A lot of individual brilliancy. Come on boys, we can win this.

HsLBroker:
I wonder why u guys can't win the global mature world cup.

How many countries in the world have won the senior world cup? Spain won it for the first time in 2010. Netherlands, the kings of total football still dey search.

Maybe one day it will happen. Just like the Olympic gold, which mighty Brazil is yet to win.

LeoFish92:
OKONKWO SCORES AND THINGS FALL APART FOR MEXICO.....what a coincidence

Lol! The centre cannot hold. We must dismantle am this night.

Oya now! Osimhen, na you we dey wait o.

MsGlobalwonder:
hahaha. Instead of u to boost my morale, u're killing it the more. Be nice...

Okay, I will be nice now. We've equalised. Now to go on and win it.

Back in the game. Thunder fire devil.

engrjacuzzi:
The guys aren't just organised despite playing their younger ones #Football age

For your mind now Mexico na advanced country wey nor fit lie for age.

MsGlobalwonder:
same here. Which kain torture b dis?

Abeg, you guys should go and sleep. Nor come jinx this game o.

nikkiking:
Lie lie bunch of pictures mongers


Na pishure person go chop

It still amazes me how anybody in 2015 will be picking issues with seeing pictures of activities from the government on social media.

Wake up. This is the era of twitter, Facebook, instagram and many more. Yes, maybe a decade ago you would have to wait till the next day to see these kind of pictures on the pages of newspapers. But today, any state house correspondent of any media house can take these pictures with a phone and share it on Twitter immediately. Bloggers can pick it up and spread it further within seconds.

There are many things one can criticize this present government for, but harping on pictures taken is just childish or ignorant.

coolitempa:
Seriously speaking, does buhari or did buhari not know, prior to entering government that action and not pictures is what we need. This man is beginning to annoy me big time if we do not start to see concrete changes...... ...abi change na by mouth...

So, should we ask members of the state house press corps to stop doing their jobs? Or you don't know that different media houses have accredited representatives covering activities of the Presidency?
If you must criticize Buhari, at least do so from an informed point of view.

Mr. President, do quick. The economy is at a standstill.

Neemcie:
everyone now sees a woman's picture with bleaching first on their minds!


The thing wrong with that picture is bad lighting of the hallway she's standing in.


or the filter effect.

Yeah. Then sometimes it is also the tone of the make-up. Bidemi is actually fair in complexion.

loomer:
Since when senators start to enter bus when them get their own cars

Dem dey go crusade. Somebody shout hallelujah.

20pounds:
...And they will accompany him! The masses will keep kicking and some will support them.


Nigeria and its many den of thieves called arms of government.

@ your signature: It's been Animal Farm for many many years. The actors just interchange roles depending on who is in power. Nothing new.

Chai! Why? Been busy and couldn't catch the game. I just say make I check scores before I go sleep, na him I see massacre.

So Bayern just give Arsenal false hope for first leg. Eyah, Mukina2 sorry o.

omoelu1:
yes bro, that's right and normal.
this sport has gone beyond just entertainment, it is now a business (that a lot of people invest in) and expect ROI.
at least, as a fan, I invest my emotion.
so, if a player yields result, I hail him, and if he fails, he should simply gerrarahia. no time

So, it is only emotions that you invested that you are reacting like this. What should those who bought season tickets do? Commit suicide? Bro, calm down. We can criticise Rooney yes, but all the insults are unnecessary.

donem:
bro don't be sorry for anything, am a red devil but truth be told the fat cow is a spent force, though has saved face a little.

Typical use and dump mentality. All the years he was getting the job done now count for nothing abi? Form is temporary, class is constant.

Finally. Rooooooney.

Once again, this thread, like many before it, goes to show just how poorly Nigerian youths reason these days. Future leaders indeed.

It's a damn shame.

dayojags10:
do you guys even know Eden hazard and Christian benteke were at that same 2007 tournament for belgium?, look at them today. I can't even remember the last time I saw any of those boys t represented us that same year on TV

And how many of these their team mates do you know? Pray tell where are they?

2 Dimitri Daeseleire
3 DF Rudy Ngombo
4 DF Koen Hustinx
5 DF Niels Ringoot
6 MF Laurens Spruyt
7 FW Guillaume François
8 MF Cédric Ciza
11 FW Kevin Kis

It is easy to mention those you see in the Premiership ba? Victor Moses also played at that tournament for England. Mind you he was born in Nigeria. So, he is probably over aged too.

tuffgongjo:
Fran Merida?

Yes, Fran Merida, star of the future. We are still waiting.

TheGoodJoe:
Fran Merida, the Catalan genius from La Masia academy.

God bless you. Fran Merida. Where is he today? I created this thread 2 years ago to address this issue. It's not all about age cheats. Many other factors are responsible for progression from U17 to senior level.

dabossman:
With the Golden Eaglets recent qualification for the finals of the FIFA U-17 World Cup in the UAE, the perennial question of what becomes of these talented youngsters has started to ring out again. The age long (no pun intended) argument about age falsification within the nation’s youth teams is an ever constant colossus that usually overshadows whatever laurels the U-17’s or U-20’s win.
Nigeria has won the U-17 tourney three times and has played in the U-20 finals twice, throwing up a pool of amazing youngsters that showed so much promised and left Nigerians dreaming of a strong Super Eagles that would one day win the World Cup. However, that dream is still but a dream.

One factor that most Nigerians believe is responsible for this failure to transfer youth team success to the senior level is the tendency for youth players to falsify their ages. Many Nigerians tend to ask, “What happened to the stars of the all-conquering U-17 teams we had before?” Where are the likes of Peter Anosike, Ibrahim Babangida and Sambo Choji of the class of ’93; Femi Opabunmi, Soga Sambo and Temile Omonigho of 2001, King Osanga, Macauley Chrisantus, Yakubu Alfa of 2007? And these questions are not out of place.
However, the truth is that this phenomenon is not only peculiar to Nigeria. Usually, only a handful of youth players ever go on to have glorious careers at senior level; in most cases, between three to five players per squad.

It is very easy to say Gianluigi Buffon and Francesco Totti played for Italy in 1993, Andres Iniesta and Fernando Torres played for Spain in 2001, or Toni Kroos played for Germany in 2007 as did Eden Hazard and Christian Benteke for Belgium and Borjan and David De Gea for Spain. But how many of their team mates can we remember? How many of the squad of 18/21 players then, play for their senior teams today?
Where are the promising stars of yore like Florent Sinama Pongolle and Anthony Le Tallec (France U-17 2001) who were quickly snapped up by Liverpool? Pongolle was the only one lucky to get a single cap for the senior team. What of Fran Merida and Daniel Aquino (Spain U-17 2007) who have never been capped by Spain. Merida who was once an Arsenal youngster now plays for a lowly team in Brazil. Where is Richard Sukuta-Pasu (Germany U-17 2007) who scored four goals on their way to third-place?

The same is the trend at U-20 level. You only need to do a comprehensive research to discover that most youth players from the U-17 and U-20’s, even those from winning squads, usually just fade of into their local leagues and never get more than one to five senior caps if they are lucky. Many never do.

Below are a few reasons why youth players and Nigerian youth players in particular, never make it to the senior team.

1. A Large Biennial Pool of Players
The U-17 and U-20 World Cups take place every two years. This means that large pools of about 42 youth players are showcased on the world stage constantly every two years. That is 84 in four years, and 126 in six years. So imagine Nigeria, or any nation at that playing at U-17 and U-20 consecutively for six years and producing 126 potential senior team players. How many will end up making the cut?

2. Quality Senior players often play for over a decade
The chances of youth team players breaking into the senior team is also limited because their senior colleagues usually play for many years thus shutting them out of the senior squad. How many youth players between 2001 and 2008 stood a chance of displacing Joseph Yobo, Austin Okocha, Kanu Nwankwo, Vincent Enyeama, John Utaka, Obafemi Martins and the likes from the senior team? You would have to be exceptionally talented and extraordinarily lucky to do so. In the same vein, players like Asier Illaramendi, Nacho and Borjan (Spain U17 2007) will probably never get more than the one or two senior caps as long as Xavi Alonso, Gerard Pique and the like of Xavi and Iniesta continue to play for La Roja, just like Haruna Lukman and Rabiu Ibrahim.

3. The Quality of the Local League
A lot of youth players go on to enjoy their footballing careers playing in their national leagues. So many English players that we know from watching so much of the EPL played at youth level. We watch many former youth players in the La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and other top European Leagues even when they never play for the seniors. Can we say the same for Nigeria?

Most of our youth team players end up in the back leagues of Europe simply because they will settle for any deal that will pay foreign currency. At least with that they can support their families back home.

Yes some of our former youth players like Akpan Bassy have had long careers in the local league. Some have returned home after misadventures in Europe. But how many of them do we know of? How can we even know of them when we hardly follow the league, nor do we get to watch it on television?

4. Bad Career Choices
This is no doubt the bane of many fledgling careers. Our youngsters in a bid to play in Europe will settle for anything, anywhere. From Malta to Cyprus, Bulgaria, Qatar, Vietnam and Moldova; if there is cash to be earned, our players will go. Many do not seek to try and develop their game, but instead join clubs that will only turn them into a mediocre. There is no way you can play in such lower European leagues with players who with all due respect are not of a superior class and it will not affect your game. Even players like Pongolle and Le Tallec as stated above, who played with big names at Liverpool faded away. How much more someone playing in Malta or Liechtenstein?

In reality, it would be very myopic to just relegate the reason why our former youth internationals never graduate to play for the senior national team to just a matter of age falsification. There are many other factors to be considered. Only if these factors can be addressed systematically can we hope to see youngsters like Iheanaco, Yahaya, Awoniyi, Success and the many more that will come after them graduate seamlessly to the Super Eagles.

dayojags10:
bojan, illaramendi. where's our chrisantus?

How many caps does Illarramendi have for Spain senior team? Haruna Lukman was our captain at that tourney. He was playing at the World cup 3 years later.

TheGoodJoe:
Sinama Pongolle, nine goals in 2001 U17 World cup. Scored a brace in the finals against Nigeria. He did not become a World class Super Star.

Liverpool even snapped him up after the tourney along with Anthony Le Tallec. Both of them never became French senior team stars. There was one former Spanish U-17 dude at Arsenal too. Can't remember his name. Never cut it. Last I heard, he was playing in Brazil.

Elxandre:
Even when they move to top leagues, they still fail to excel, and flicker off, while the Likes of Neymar, Douglas Cousta etc become world beaters.

I'm not watching the tourney.
Please I hope the boys don't look too out of the age grade?

Not every player who does well at U-17 becomes a senior team player. Is it everyone from Neymar or Messi's set that plays for a top European Team or even makes it to the senior national team? Usually, you have maybe 2-4.

Have we not had Nigerian U-17 and U-20 players progressing to the Eagles? It's usually the same for other countries .

kinibigdeal:
Who remember stanley okoro "our Nigeria Messi where the over-age guy dey now

Who remembers Germany's super goalscorer at 2007 U-17? Richard Sukuta-Pasu? Where the under-age guy dey now?

My point? Not every player who excelled at junior level will succeed at senior level.

SAZZYSKOLY:
Bros leave that thing abeg.... we know how a 17 year Nigerian be like

Pray tell, what do they look like? Do you mind posting your picture when you were 19? Hope you were athletic o, or it won't count.

haywhy59:
Y una no go beat under17 brazil team wen una carry under30 boys go. When they reach national team now dem go flop.

Yet some of these "U-30's" will still play active football for over 15 years.

Kanu- allegedly 27 @Japan 93 U-17. Played for another 17 year for Nigeria. Meaning he was 44 at 2010 World Cup abi?

Yobo - allegedly 28 at Nigeria 99 U-20. Played for another 15 years for Nigeria. Meaning he was 43 at the last world cup abi?

Nigerian players must be super human. I guess Obafemi Martins should be 48 by now.

Kontinu.

marlockj:
I understand ur point bro

Let's leave party aside,afterall Weda apc or Pdp I Hv Neva benefited from supporting either.

What am trying to say here is this,Mst military Wait for Boko to post videos or pictures,Why cnt military make us blv dem.if they can't show us the video of dead or battle Cuz of icc Atleast let's see videos of deir damages on Boko camp etc.

Why Mst military Wait for Boko to post video for them to counter.

I know is not easy,Why are we having conflicting news,a tym ago military told us that Boko don't have any territory or camps,few weeks later military post pics of camp destruction.

Also all the news we hear is that Boko are going on a desperate move any they can only b operating with bombing,military claimed that they are weaken,the next thing you hear is that Boko act a community in north n d casualty yet to b ascertain.

From the last video I watched on narialand here,I cnt be So sure of military again. Cuz those guys attack military barrack And took alot of arms.

This are the reason Nigerians are doubting.

How do you convince Nigerians that you are winning,yet no videos,no pictures.

Evn the pictures we get still Hv questioning, for example I read a news some weeks ago Dat military killed Lik 300 Boko or there about, Bt what they recover as in arms Whr Like 10 all together. How do we link this?

military need to prove to deir country that the battle is deirs,rather is Boko Dat is doing Dat.

Leave Pdp or apc out of it,After all Me Na wey money Dey I Dey go.

My brother, the Army have been posting pictures and videos. I saw a video sometime ago where they were stacking bodies of dead boko haram fighters. Some people still came and started insulting and ridiculing them. It's no use. All I am interested in is seeing this insurgency end someday in the near future. Enough of the killing. Some people however, will never be cured of their partisanship.