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My fellow Nigerians, do you think it is possible for there to be another coup in Nigeria? And if so, what scenarios would you think would be enough for a coup to take place.

Note, I am not in support of coups. I have never said anything favorable about military rulers, not even the ones like Muritala that are well regarded by many Nigerians.

I just want to read the pulse of the people. And lastly, will you accept a regime that gains power from a coup?

Yes, I did. My apologies. I was just trying to get a read on your personality.

Alright, KC, if you have something to say to Afeni, make a separate thread. This is about whether or not I should be ban. I don't appreciate having you come all up in here trying to hijack and whatnot.

Personally, I think the question is not whether or not Afeni should be banned, the question is to what extent should Afeni be immortalized for spreading his wisdom here at nairaland.

K2DaC, well considering how you are acting all pissy, it is bothering you. So, like I said before, I don't hate you. At least, not yet.

And you can't excuse after I excused you.

KC, your right. I will leave you in peace. A thread about banning Afeni is not place for me to lay the law. You are excused.

And no, I don't hate you.

Night hawker, apologize if you want to make nice.

Thats fine. Get off my thread. You don't offer any support and instead you insult me. Thats really mature, night hawker.

In fact, you are officially below Eveseh. Yes, as hard as that is to imagine, Eveseh is more intelligent than you. I never thought I will ever meet anyone that makes Eveseh look smart. But congratulations Night hawker, you have achieved just that.

I hope it is only noise. I am not interested in trading with countries that will flood our market with cheap goods. What Nigeria needs to do is get markets open in developed countries. The goods in developed countries are just too expensive for the average Nigerian consumer to purchase, but our goods will be nice and cheap for them. That is the kind of situation that creates a nice large trade surplus.

Thats a perfectly normal and pretty name. What do you think night hawker means?

Cmon, thats all you have to say?

Fine, I am going to change it. You are now known as night hawker. That is an awesome name. Do you like that?

Do you like it?

I want the Igbos cut out too. Its better to play it safe. 

Besides, I don't think they would mind if they were asked to leave. And they should take the Ijaw with them. Don't need any hostage taking to tarnish the image of Dassa republic (name of Western Nigerian State that does not Include Hausa land, Igbo land and Bayelsa State.)

Kazey, I see what you mean. Well, it is widely believed that the census figured were lies. And if they were not, why where the Islamic clerics and Northerners shouting to ensure that the ethnicity and religion were not included in the Census?

I have seen Satellite images of all the major cities in Nigeria (At least 20 cities) and the Northern cities appear to be a lot smaller when looking at them. Now, this might mean that the Northern cities are filled with sky scrappers, but I seriously doubt that. The cities in the South Wester are the biggest. Enugu also appears to be pretty big.

Lastly, common sense and observing the rest of the world (including West African States) will tell you that the majority of people all West African States that have a coast line live close the coast. Only in Nigeria is it that people would rather live in arid wastelands when they could live further south where there is an abundance of water.

Stability is also an important factor. In Ghana, a small country of only 22 million, no one died when the cartoons in Belgium were released. In Nigeria, many lives were lost and thousands were forced to relocate over cartoons that were published in a country that 95 percent + of Nigerians have never even heard of.

Kazey, economically might be good to use for State propaganda, but it doesn't put food on the table. Nigeria's economy is over 3 times as big as the Ghanaian economy, but the average Ghanaian makes 2.5 times as much in dollar terms than the average Nigerian. They also enjoy constant electricity, better education, better roads and better access to health care.

So, you decide. Do you want to be a giant on paper, or a giant in reality?

Kazey, the article is basing the definition of "Giant" on both population size and geographical size.

And yes, it is only applicable to Africa. The reason being, all the maps that we see in present day Africa, with the exception of Eritrea, were decided and drawn out in the Berlin conference. So, the maps are not built with any respect or knowledge of the reality on the ground.

I am talking about GDP per capita. Not raw GDP. Afterall, what good is 10 billion dollars if you have to split it amongst 10 billions people.

Kazey, I do have facts to support my claims. I guess I just kind of assumed that everyone on this forum was well aware of the results of past Nigerian census. Besides, I was hoping to skip that extra peace of work. But if you insist, my friend, I will attach the census results I am able to find at the bottom of this post.

Yes, I know you have other States in the North. However, you know as well as I do, that compared to the south, Northern States are by in large empty.

Here are links to the census.

Link: From CIA american website. It shows Hausa Fulani as one with 29 percent of the population.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html

Link: Repot on Nigerias past Census

Link: That shows that Kano State has over 8 million people , just 2 million less than Lago State. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population

kazey:
Is this article more of Specific on geographical application, In regards to the Size and the Instability factor?

Quotes:

Rephrase this question, please. I am too tired to understand what you have written.

Kazey, China and India are very poor by world standards. In fact, South Africans make about twice as much as the Chinese and 3-4 times as much as the Indians. Don't let all the poorly educated fill your head with lies. China and India are still very much third world. Honestly, the only reason China is even doing so well is because the government there is very strict so American Companies can open up factories there and exploit the workers without any penalty.

If such a thing were to happen in Nigeria, the workers are free to protest and nothing would happen. In China, if they like they can protest, but they better be prepared to get shot at by the Peoples Liberation Army (funny Communist. They make amicable names for death squads). Also note that this is the same peoples liberation army that killed thousands of students for demanding democracy.

The lack of ethnicity on the Census is meant to hide past lies. Past lies that published to the world that a mythical ethnic group known as Hausa-Fulani made up 29 percent of the population. Well ahead of Yorubas with 21 percent and Igbos with 18 percent. This mythical Ethnic group also happened to be the same ethnic group that most of the Military dictators came from. This mythical ethnic group that occupied by all real accounts, land that is just shy of being desert. How exactly the dust land of Kano, and Kaduna are able to support over 35 million people is beyond me. In fact, I would be surprised if that desert land is capable of sustaining 15 million people. Of course, in case the mythical ethinc group went over any of your heads, all Nigerians know that there is no such group as Hausa-Fulani. Unless you are willing to add Fulani, a nomadic people, to whatever groups they are in close proximity to. In which case, just as there are Hausa-Fulani, there are Yoruba Fulani, Nupe Fulani and Igbo Fulani.

The census also went on to say that Nigeria is made up of 50 percent Muslim, 40 percent Christian and 10 percent native believes.

Am I the only that finds it suprising that past census results are the way they are? After IBB funded and installed Obj in power, not surprisingly, Obj came up with the bright idea of not adding ethnicity to the census. Now, if I am getting this straight, it is ok for a tyrannical military regime to conduct a census that includes ethnic groups. but it is not possible for a democratically elected regime to do the same?

Honestly, it is only common sense that ethnicity be added to the census. This is not only in the benefit of the country as a whole, but it is in the benefit of the North. Once the census is released without ethnicity added, you can rest assured that 95 percent of the people in lagos, wheather or not they are Yoruba will be regarded as being just that. 98 percent or more of the people in Ibadan, wheather or not they are Yoruba will be regarded as being Yoruba. So, in short, in trying to hide past lies, the North have allowed themselves to be fooled. Once the census results are released, revenue allocation would have to be re-done (as called for by the constitution) and if you think the Northern States are having trouble developing now, wait till they begin getting only 70 percent of what they are currently getting.

If everyone would have played fair and included the ethnicity in the census, we would have a better idea where we stand as a nation. And after spending hundred of millions of Dollars, omitting the 1 lines that would have been needed to add a question for ethnicity is not only being silly, but it is wasteful and moronic.

From what I understand, they disassociated themselves from Igbos after the civil war. But then again, after the civil war, everyone would want to be an un-igbo as possible. So, if you mean by disassociating themselves, they are now outcasts, then yes.

Ikwere people are Igbo. Now, if they choose to seperate themselves from other Igbos, that is fine. But they are still Igbos.

Rhodalyn, what could you possibly know about balls? I mean, you watch one game and now you think you are pro in soccer.

I meant to type prosperity. That was a typo.

superman, are you kidding me? I have never attacked or advocated violence against Igbos. In fact, I don't even consider Igbos part of the problem of Nigeria. I blame the North, not some Igbos that are too naive to realize that the northerners hate their guts.

Thats fine. I already know your age. Honestly, I am not playin or anything. I am just chillin. Trying to get all this alcohol out of my system before bed.

Alright, well, you are inbetween 18-19. There, I got it!

right. Of course.

In that case, I will pick an age for you.

You are . . . . . err. . . . between 17-21

right?

awww. . . . I like you, but it is a pitty I am 2fine4u.

I am just kidding.

How old are you?