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zeenaman:
I'd rather buy a completed project from a known developer

As good as this may sound, it still doesn’t stop you from being scammed.

A lot of known developers have scammed diasporas and we see it on socials everytime.

A lot of them are also too profit oriented and uses inferior materials ,
Example, a developer might use 250m in total to construct a house and land then sell for 350m.

I have personally gone to repair some of those buildings atleast 5 for clients

First and foremost,
Yoi have done well itemizing few points but it doesn’t work that way. For example, paying in stages is good but saying that stage needed to be completed before paying for it doesn’t work except the engineer wants to put his own funds into your project.

One very important thing is continuous and constant communication with your engineer as the project commenced and always ask for picture evidence of work level.

Personally, it’s important to seek track record of whomever you are contracting on your project.

My firm for example has built nothing less than 10 buildings for people in diaspora whom are actually through referrals.
I have successfully built for clients in the USA, Canada, UK.
I understand the fear and the trust issues that come with it but you have to be involved in your project.
Integrity matters to someone like me and I know a lot of others who don’t scam people.
It’s just unfortunate that the bad eggs are so many.

Also, we need to be careful to know the difference between a bricklayer or carpenter who has experience in construction who now call themselves engineer and true engineers who are registered with COREN and NSE.
You can always ask for their reg no before engagement

Phayie:
For me, I still feel that is on the high side. I still feel 1.5 should be just right.

No one will take such amount from you except he has other plans on how to steal from you.
That’s the truth.
An engineer isn’t very cheap!

Phayie:
How much does an engineer typically charge to supervise a four-bedroom bungalow, because the 3 to 4 million they are quoting feels too expensive?

I will advise you to negotiate between 2.5M with the engineer.
Building a bungalow to finish will take close to 2 and half months and when you factor his wages a month to your plan, you will notice the money sound big with no value.
Most times, the engineer will be on the site for over 9hrs Monday - Saturday!
I wish you all the best on your project!

uncleteeh:
It sickens me and gets me tired a lot.

Many beautiful houses but with bad foundations.

I hope upcoming house owners get it right.

One of the problem is less awareness. The cost of DPM is so low that I find it hard to believe an owner would disregard if the dos and don’t are well spelt out to him

Hello guys,
This morning till weekend i will be providing free consultations regarding your ongoing structures and whatever issue you have on your site.
Note, not providing free estimate or BOQ, structural drawing or architectural drawing.
Let me use the new few days to give back freely from our wealth of experience and knowledge acquired through hardwork, sweat and consistent learning.

uncleteeh:
Well-done bro.

But I would suggest you leave it the layman way, even some engineers refer to concrete fascia as parapet wall, maybe they are also dancing to the tune of the layman sha.

I'm just suggesting this so as not to cause confusion.

No, it’s not good to leave it to the layman language. People are all here to learn and understand the right engineering names and projections.

Leaving engineering terms for layman is another reason why people feel they don’t necessarily need a professional on their buildings.

Phayie:
Please, I'm still in search

If what you needed him for is something that doesn’t affect inter state, Lagos is not far to Ibadan and mobility is never in question.
You can get in touch with me on
08039150966

We are just a stone throw away from you.
We also deliver structural drawings .
Contact us on 08039150966
Email- begramsprojects@gmail.com

We have delivered a lot more.
You can contact us on 08039150966
Email -begramsprojects@gmail.com

All thanks to God, Begrams projects recently delivered this exquisite building to our diaspora client.
Building located at Greenland estate, Awoyaya Lagos state

helinues:
Also let's not learn on how to destroy our own country all in the name of protest .

We can't be complaining of hardship and still cause more hardship

You are crazy,the same country that has been destroyed by our selfish politicians?
We don’t look like we have a country at the moment with all the happenings. Only politicians are enjoying the system Nigeria practice at the moment

So I joined a company recently based on referral…I negotiated 500k as a senior project engineer tasked with helping them solve some problems. First red flag,the engineers I met on site has the highest pay of 200k. The workers were poorly remunerated, carpenters and helpers that I usually pay 7k and 4k respectively were being paid 3.5k and 2.5k . The work time was 8am - 6pm daily with an hour break, then Saturdays 8am-4pm. These guys could not provide me with safety site wears in 10days. The project manager has no experience on road or structures and could not even organize site work using all known tools. No role delegation, no task check ,milestones or team meetings. It was unbearable with how unprofessional they were working . But they have the edge in Nigeria because they are Lebanese who has the means to get contracts. I forgot to say they could not even issue an employment letter before I resumed till I left. The last straw was these dudes forcing their workers to work through Easter break with no incentives…I told them clearly I won’t work during such holiday without a special agreement. Took my pay for the number of days and left….oh,I forget how embarrassing I look when these guys has meetings with the client/key stakeholders. Our representatives were like novice and there I will just sit feeling ashamed. Terrible experience.

Elxandre:
Which town is kola sir?
Trying to estimate distance

Kola is at Alagbado in Lagos

Check this

Megaautos:
Hybrid cars are good and cheaper sef.

The funny thing, the vehicle is not even an hybrid.. If it is, it would be written on the body or somewhere but not an hybrid... Haven't seen its model anywhere around before. Guess it was my lucky day

Bukola94:
So u mean the 2010 Highlander saves fuel than 2008 model&similar to corolla in fuel consumption. I use to see Hybrid version of the Highlander around

Yes boss, before the increase in price my tank usually fill up with 9k max and it's consumption is almost same as my 2005 sport corolla.
The SUV has been a blessing else would have sold it off by now
A 15k fuel this economy will take me to Sangotedo from Kola to and fro

Bukola94:
2008 Highlander will dust the Camry with 300m gap self. Honda accord coupe 5gears manual will dust the Camry 2k V6.

2008 highlander is even a V6.
I am just thankful to God I spent more to ship that dual vvti 2010 v4 highlander from the U. S myself else, this economy would have taken a toll on me. But thank God because my fuel consumption is very similar to a Toyota corolla and my car move so fast as an SUV.. It's a 5seater unlike the V6 which is usually 7seater

IPDGP:
I think when it comes to car, the number of cylinder matters ooo
My 2000 Camry V6 no v4 car has ever outrun me if I really want to run or find a challenger

Continue lying to yourself, bring it near my dua vvti v4 2010 highlander if I won't give you 500m ahead and still dust you on a trip to IB

Yea, it worked but the stress was too much and the cost was way over what I could have gotten it for in naija. Though I got a 4plug highlander suv 2010 model... Spent total of 8.3m but Nigerians want to buy at 7.6m🤣.
Just buy your thing in naija if possible

joeargy:
Hi everyone, I will appreciate ur advice...

My son is 2yrs old , when he was born I and my wife named him Charles but my wife's mother and father can't stop calling him Daniel, when ever my son is at their place for holidays or visits, they call him Daniel and all their neighbors and friends now call my son Daniel.

I remembered I told my wife about it and her mother heard and felt bad, he is my son and not theirs, I understand grandparents give their grand children names too, I have a name from my grandparents but they call me by the one my parents gave me...

What do I do house?

You know what I think? I think you are just a frustrated dude who doesn't know where to channel his anger then decided to pick on his in laws. Like what is even your problem in all of this? I don't blame you, I blame the little change in your pocket that has made you to forget your pressing issues😂.
What if it is your own mother that has been calling him names different from yours?
An example, my mother has never called any of my kids the name I give them, she always call them by the name she gives at birth and my children are used to those names and recognize individuals with the name mentioned. Find another problem cause this isn't one

elyte:
Comments here are very funny. Most people seem to be very political. Anyone on their good book can do no wrong.

Bashir made a good point that shouldn't have come from him. Its quite absurd when you see privileged kids raised by corrupt money make such comments. Its derogatory and stinking. When a clean oil enters an unclean vessel, it becomes unclean.

To Mr falz, when you come out as an activist, rightly criticising corrupt politicians, you will be held to a moral standard because you are a public figure and a role model.

In Lagos alone, there are more than 10 hospitals that will do this surgery. What's it about going to abroad for everything? Even govt hospitals can handle this surgery. To be fair to Lagos state govt, the state have fairly equipped general hospitals. The problem is the time wasting. However, more privileged people like Falz can use any of the well equipped specialist hospitals in Lagos. The govt cant provide all the health care needs and thats why we need the private sectors.
Aproko dr had a brain tumour surgery in a Nigerian hospital, operated by our doctors. He's another influencer and sharing the news alone would have made more people to believe in our drs.

If every privileged person is like falz, make money in Naija and go for simple treatments abroad, then health care business will break down. More doctors will run away.

If he knows being held to such standard is too much, he should stay off the spotlight. He even shared it on the SM. Just kneel surgery o.

And please guys, stop making this political. Our politicians are useless but lets address all these fake activists too just as would do politicians. They are both influential people in our polity that should be held to a standard of integrity.

I think we are getting it wrong. It is very absurd for someone like Bashir to even have the effrontery mock someone on going to get medical treatment outside the country. The rot in our healthcare system is much. He should rather be crying. A Fawehinmi may not have died if he quickly sort medical attention outside the country. We can't really hold falz responsible on how he spend his personal funds because his dad is not known to have held any political office. Just like saying he shouldn't travel abroad or own a house abroad because he is an activist. Until he holds an office, we can't fault him for using a designer instead of Aba made. I hope you get my point?

burp18:
balderdash. He raised a very important point but like we all know, you have to be a brainless fellow to be an obid.iot

I think you are the brainless one here.
First, ask yourself who falz is and who is his father?
Are they politicians or part of the rots that destroyed our Healthcare system in Nigeria?
Falz still hold the right to spen his personal money on his choices unlike our thieves in politics who stole to stupor at the expense of the masses still rubbing on our faces traveling private jets to go use our common wealth to finance they and their family medical tourism.
You lot need to start using your brains

emmyN:
I'm aware of all that. But given that 3D sketch presented by the OP which shows a building on a budget, roofing sheets for that would certainly not amount to 5 million.

Very funny. Should I challenge you?
A building with good oversite concrete... Foundation. How about I challenge you that 5m will not go beyond the roofing stage

Very funny individuals on this forum. Most doesn't even know the cost of materials to talk of building a house. OP, 11m will try and give you good work depending on your taste. With the stone coated roof I am seeing, a gable roof with an height not looking less than 1.2m,11 million won't do it. What kind of tiles do you want? Nigeria tiles, wooden tiles, what kind of painting? Satin, mat, Emulsion, what kind of doors, you want POP or Pvc or ceiling board? What kind of wood you want for your roof? What kind of blocks you want? Sancrete or dust block? you want a cabinet set up in your kitchen? What kind of bathroom do you want? A good WC, shower, water heater or Jacuzzi. Alot is involved in building a house. Try to give your architectural drawing to a good QS or engineer to have a slight idea on what the market says.

concho:
We started dating when she got admission in 2018. She was a novice and a church girl then .
There was nothing like intimacy till 2021 and that was when I deflowered her ,

Since I promised my self that I must marry who ever I deflowered , I started taking care of some parts of her needs hoping that I will get financially stable and settle down with her .

She was the type of girl that everyone assumed to be an angel . I trusted her more than anything on earth .

She is too jealous that she suspects that I’m cheating even when I was not . She misinterprets everything an opposite sex sends to me

Fast forward to 2022 . She visited one day and got upset that another girl referred to me as “babe” on chat instead of saying “hi” . I insisted that she brings her own phone so I check if a guy has never called her babe

On getting to her chat , I noticed this guy that she saved as “my favorite” . They had no chats (she deletes everything) . I decided to dig deeper only to find out that this guy has been going to her house (family house ) to sleep with her . It’s not once , it’s not twice . And it was frequent the period she even said I should give her space that they were doing family prayers

The worst is that I told the mum and elder siblings out of anger. They did absolutely nothing . The mum only denied knowing that the guy comes around when everyone is out

A month later, I saw a chat of the mum asking her why she doesn’t pick the guy’s call again . I almost ran mad

She has promised and vouched that she won’t try such again and doesn’t know what came over her her .

I have tried everything possible to forgive her since no one treats me the way she does , but I keep loosing weight and falling sick by day .

I’m currently depressed and don’t know what to do again

You might soon be dead if you continue with that girl. Don't let anyone guilt trip you

engrrichie92:
Builders/Architects/Engineers,

I need your expert advise.

So I have got 10M naira I want to invest in my first building project (Land inclusive)

I know it is not feasible in Lagos, so looking at Ondo/Ogun state; Is this feasible within my budget?

I am even willing to pay for a comprehensive project plan from an experienced builder.

It will be nice to have a detailed breakdown of how to achieve this before I proceed

Thanks in advance.

Well, it depends on ;
Where the land is situated,
Your designs
Your taste
Yes it can

apache22b:
Every sane Nigerian wants to be associated with Light and Bola Ahmed Tinubu is the only Light we have in Nigeria .

Not these good for nothing block heads that call themselves Obidient's urchins that derives pleasure in darkness.

You all better vote Tinubu . I will not say this again . For your own good

You said "only light"?
God forbid, I am a light also except you claim you and your household represent darkness o.
Please let's be mindful of the tongue.
He is one of the leading light (figure) to be president and it is between himself and peter Obi

debeey87:
Good morning everyone, I need input on labor for the first floor of my build.

Block is estimated to be about 5000pcs and bricklayer has quoted 540,000 naira as labor for setting blocks on the first floor. This doesn't include the pillars or lintel concrete work. What will be a fair price to negotiate per block.

Also, do labor price increase per floor or it's same.

The Labour cost is on the high side. But Labour varies with construction environment.
Also, yes... Labour price increases per floor due to the following.
Moving of materials from the ground to each floor becomes stressful.
Labourers would be paid to move hollow blocks, sharp sand and cement to each floor for use.
What you are being charged at the moment is around ₦120 per block.
Most probably that includes block setting, moving of blocks to the first floor.

My suggestion is to negotiate around ₦80 with him (inclusive of block carrying)
That's a fair amount looking at the level of inflation in the market

joycluv:
To our building experts in the house, please what is the standard foundation depth, width and concrete blinding thickness for a storey building?
Thanks

I find this very funny.
It is not as simple as you just made it sound this and more reasons are responsible for you guys being duped.

No structure or building are exactly the same.
Let's start with your soil investigation.
Where are you intending to have this structure situated? What type of structure do you intend to have, those it have any sort of cantilever or extension? Do you have an architectural drawing for it? What about the structural design?
Does these drawings conform to known standards? Will they pass for approval?
Please, always consult a professional for your structures and avoid people stating a specific width, depth or blinding thickness for you

Joe82834:
Land already secured in Abj.. Would love to I'd a one bedroom flat at the back for starters. And later do the penthouse at the front. Would love to have an idea of what a basic one bedroom flat would cost and how soon it can be finished

I think we are out rightly trying to take food out of our quantity surveyors with this mentality.
No one would perfectly give you 99% cost value on whatever you want to build without taking into consideration your taste (designs), the span of the structure, the aesthetics and finishing.. All these would guide anyone expected to give you a cost estimate

tonididdy:
Nigeria isn't the problem but lagos state.
You didn't say anything about what the new claim owners are demanding from you?

Things like this hardly happen in my state, Edo state.
Honestly Edo stat3 was worse than lagos in terms of land grabbing, omonilez and Co
...not until the Oba of Benin intervened, since then lands in Edo is a safe haven investment.

Anyways that's the hazards that come with buying land in choice areas, " be prepared for the worst"

You have a high taste obviously, if and when you get out of this, reconsider your taste a little next time so you can have rest of mind!

I do not think his taste is the problem neither is it a crime to have a high taste.
The problem is actually the greedy Nigerians who have destroyed the real estate/ construction industry.
People who want to amass great profits doing nothing or cheating others.

What I do with most of the lands I help client procure is reconfirmation from the right sources in government offices to ascertain the genuine owners of properties.

I actually pity him sincerely because it is not easy to save funds and try to do something good at a time like this