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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:59am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
It is a lie they are not the same thing. Life has no universal meaning. If it does tell me the universally accepted meaning of life. Life has individual meaning but it doesn't have a universal acceptable meaning. You remain a liar until you some that the universal meaning of life is and how it is universally accepted.

If you say life has an individual meaning why then did you say Grizlybears meaning to life is a false one? Do you know why i aasked you about the 52 infamous atheists alongside?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:57am On Dec 16, 2016

Dalaman you believe that God does not exist but do you believe in Creation?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:55am On Dec 16, 2016

Dalaman do you believe in creation?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:53am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
Yes it is.

So you say Grizlybears belief that life is meaningless is a false one? Do you believe in Creation?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:48am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
I am not talking about meaning of life but showing that the meaning of life varies and isn't universal that is why I used religion to prove my point.

What is the difference between the notorious atheist in history and your biblical prophets what went about with your murderous God killing and anhilating others in your bible. What is the difference between Moa and Josh or Moses in the bible? All were genocidal psycophats who went about killing people en mass.

You keep using religion to offer examples. Are atheists not supposed to be many? Can you not use their worldview to support your argument? Answer my question about grizlybears reality. IS IT A FALSE ONE?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:46am On Dec 16, 2016

Dalaman is grizlybears reality a false one?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:43am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
That remains hos opinion and his alone. Most other atheist do not subscribe to that philosophy. I don't know why you are pained by that.

And i asked you earlier which you kept dodging. IS HIS REALITY A FALSE ONE?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:42am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
The fact remains life's meaning is what ever you chose to make of it. I noticed that you are pained dyer your lies about aheism and nihilism have been debunked. You have now resorted to an alpha atheist is a nihilist bla bla bla. You clearly do not know what you are talking about. I do not use the religious to talk about the meaning of life . I only use the religious to show that life has various meanings to different reli6groups and doesn't have a universal meaning as some religious people falsely claim.

You really do know how to flatter yourself. Why not use atheism to discuss the meaning of life rather than running to the religious to make an example. Why not use atheists to make examples?

Have you ever heard of the 52 most notorious atheists in history?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:40am On Dec 16, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Then why is Diagoras considered the first atheist in History BECAUSE HE WAS EXPLICIT about his rejection of God . Being without gods does not make you an atheist . The deists too were described as those without gods because they rejected the worship of god by the larger society .

If you study history of the Greeks, the deists were mistaken for atheists .

Implicit atheism has been criticized by intellectuals as false . Having no knowledge of gods does not make you an atheist , having no belief in God does not make you an atheist but explicitly and consciously rejecting gods makes you an atheist . That means if you know of gods and declare within yourself that you don't believe they exists , then you are an atheist .

Very clear and very simple.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:35am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
So what if some people are nihilistic? Others believe in destroying humanity for their God.

If others believe in destroying humanity for their God which in this case i believe ISLAM is your focus then why not focus on that since you feel its repulsive.

However even they still hold meaning to life but a nihilist sees nothing in nothing so does not believe in anything as meaningful since his own life was an accident of nature. I quote grizlybear

"I wish i was not born because my life was by chance. Chance brought me here so what then is the purpose to my life?"

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:32am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
Even with God life has different meanings to various religious people. The meaning of life for a Hindu is different to that of a muslim and both of them believe in God. So you see even with the Gods that allegedly created life, life has no universal meaning.

With God or the gods of other religious people the meaning is one...PURPOSE! and this PURPOSE breeds DESIRE and DISCOVERY.

You on the other hand who is godless and do not believe God or gods exist are simply making up meaning as you go so to you there is no one meaning to life as the one you hold on to today can become meaningless tomorrow as you evolve as an atheist.

The Alpha atheist is the one who has fully embraced nihilism and you are yet to get to the level.

Everytime we talk about meaning in life you always use the religious to offer examples why can you not use your position as an atheist to offer meaning to your own life.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:27am On Dec 16, 2016

jonbellion:
lol

Did i lie? He was serious about his position about no meaning to life and saw no reason for love, no reason for marriage, no reason for children, no reason for the earth and ultimately no reason for life so wished death on humanity and total extinction.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:25am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
Diagoras was the first person in Greko Roman culture to OPENLY show disbelief in the Gods. Remember it was a capital offence at that time so many hide their disbelief because they will be kills if they came out openly. Before him in India there were atheist atheist.

You attempt at giving strenght to atheism is silly to say the least. So he was the first to OPENLY declare atheism? Can you show me proof that others were in hiding?

Can you show me those in india who were atheists "openly" before him?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:23am On Dec 16, 2016

felixomor:
Good
So dont make noise, next time

Felix focus on people worth discussing with rather than those who dishonestly show puerility at every turn and jump into convos without first taking time to read from the beginning. Knowledge can only be given by someone who has one. They lack it in Truckloads.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:19am On Dec 16, 2016

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism has nothing to do with criticism . How many times will you be told that religious skepticism has nothing to do with atheism and agnosticism .

Akingbade Thomas is simply confused which is why i hardly respond to him

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:17am On Dec 16, 2016

DoctorAlien:
This not so much about the meaning of life: this is about the fact that atheism ====> nihilism.

A true atheist is a nihilist because there is absolutely no reason not to be one.

Even on the thread by the atheist nihilistic grizlybear he called other atheists stupid for thinking life had any meaning. NOW THAT IS A TRUE ATHEIST.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 9:14am On Dec 16, 2016

dblackninja:
Are you in essence and truthfully saying that your knowledge can't be accepted as a fact? That it's just an illusion offered by your brain to seek solace and avoid reality (which it sees as a threat; thanks to your parents, and in turn, the missionaries).

Why not come out of that dream-state? Face reality brother

No i am saying my knowledge is MY fact as Knowledge is derived from experience which is personal to me. So your Knowledge would also be based on a personal experience hence a personal KNOWING. So i ask again, what KNOWING do you seek?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 9:00am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
I acknowledged in my post earlier that some people are nihilist. Atheism has nothing to do with nihilism. I am an atheist and I am not a nihilist. Only one atheist here subscribe to that philosophy. You on the other hand are shamelessly ting to insinuate that atheist are al nililist until I called you out on that.

You are being disingenuous! You admitted to some being nihilistic and one being right here on NL. What is the comparative statistical assessment of this based on the small number of atheists on NL?

Did I say all atheists are nihilistic ? We are talking statistics.

Will u say his reality is a false one?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 8:49am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
Upset about what? I am just calling you out non your dishonesty. You tried to say that atheist are nihilist until I challenge you to name one atheist apart from the one we all know about here on nairaland and his statement in support of nihalism but you couldn't, instead you went on some imaginary extrapolation on atheiesm and nihilism saying that so so amount of atheist are nihilist out of some numbers you imagined in your head.

Am I free to say comprehension eludes you?

If we say the atheists on NL are 500 which is even a favourable exaggeration and out of that 500 we can already find 1 who is nihilistic and wishes death on everyone can we now not apply statistics to that?

is his reality a false one? Answer me pls

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 8:46am On Dec 16, 2016

Dalaman I await your response

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 8:43am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
You have no point my friend. I stated a fact that you can't dispute. Life has no universal meaning that os why the meaning of life varies amongst individuals. If you disagree and insist that life has a universal meaning the state the universal meaning and show me how it is acceptable by all human beings.

Life has meaning and the meaning is what ever you chose to make of it. People give their lives meaning for different reasons. You are just begging the question with your porous argument. Even with God life has various meanings to those that subscribe to the God idea because there are various Gods. The meaning of life to a muslim is diffrent from that it a Hindu for example and both of them believe in God. Even with God life has diffrent meanings. So you see, you have no point.

Dalaman you agreed to the truth about the atheist on NL who is a nihilist and I showed you the statistics which in fact is very troubling. Are you saying nihilism is meaningless? if that is his own reality is his reality a false one?

is my statistical presentation wrong?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 8:38am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
So what if one out of 500 atheist here is a nihilist? Dyer all we have end of day Christain enthusiasts that can not wait for the armegedon. They are ernestly praying for it and can't wait for it to come. Islamic terrorist are also there trying to establish the caliphate. You don't seem to have any point. Nilhalism is a philosophy that some people subscribe to. To claim that all atheist are nihilism is a shameless and dishonest and that is what you are shamelessly trying to insinuate.

Why are you getting upset? Do atheists no longet believe in facts? I just gave you true facts about atheism and its links to nihilism and you are screaming blue murder.

Is this discussion about Christians or muslims? So you agree that my statistical presentation is right.

Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:29am On Dec 16, 2016

dblackninja:
Lol...Stop doing this damogul. Answer the question already Am not seeking for a peculiar answer. You made a claim and said it is [your] reality. Now tell us, HOW DID YOU KNOW GOD IS REAL ?

I cannot offer an answer which is based on my personal KNOWING as my KNOWING cannot be yours. So what is the KNOWING you seek?

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 8:27am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
Only one atheist so far as stated that life is meaningless here on NL. If you know of any other state his name and quite where he said it. Life has meaning and the meaning is what ever we chose to ascribe to it.

If out of about 500 atheists, one can say life is meaningless and went as far as wishing death on everyone is that not troubling? He is not even married or probably not yet matured enough for that yet.

Scientifically i could say that out of every 500 atheist one is nihilistic in nature so if we had 1 million atheists then we could have 10,000 nihilistic atheists running wild out there. True ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:23am On Dec 16, 2016

ScepticalPyrrho:
only one question.

Does the video authenticate christianity?

I'm more concerned about your religion right now. That is my own focus.

Since you are not focused on discussing t errors of christianity, I'm not focussed on discussing the errors of Buddhism, you can just read my posts without quoting them.

Do you see how dishonest you are? You brought up Buddhism but are unwilling to discuss it in defense of your claims which you said came from proper research. Are you now not making yourself out as a liar?

Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:22am On Dec 16, 2016

ScepticalPyrrho:
only one question.

Does the video authenticate christianity?

I'm more concerned about your religion right now.

Let me worry about Christianity for me. Are you a Christian? Since you brought something from the left wing such as Buddhism why not worry about that? Why choose to worry about Christianity when you clearly are not one?

Regarding the video authenticating Christianity or not is something you need to discover for yourself when you watch the video.

Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by damogul: 8:20am On Dec 16, 2016

SirWere:
How on earth did this thread hit 40 pages

It's all just the same rambling litany of half-cocked arguments and semi- finished nonsense.

Seriously......

Shut up if you cannot refute the OP. Typing isnt proof of intelligence!

Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:12am On Dec 16, 2016

dblackninja:
Oh my good gracious tribalistic angry scared god!!! This is by no means an answer to my question to Pdb. HOW DID YOU KNOW GOD IS REAL ? Circumvent no more! The question is a no-brainer.

And i asked you, will my answer be the one you seek?

Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:11am On Dec 16, 2016

ScepticalPyrrho:
Bro relax.
I'm not a Buddhist, i'm only pointing out the fact that the Christ saving the world story is not new.

Do you get the point?

Suddenly you no longer sound cocky and sure of your Buddha /Christ comparison and your in-dept research. If you knew you could not defend it why make such an outrageous claim. Regardless go ahead and watch the video as an assignment...perhaps it would cure your ignorance.

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion: An Illusion That Works Well by damogul: 8:08am On Dec 16, 2016

dalaman:
Life has meaning but the meaning of life is whatever you choose to make of it. Life has no universal meaning. We all chose the meaning we want to attach to life.

To a muslim life's meaning is to submit his/herself to the will of Allah as a loyal slave To a Buddhist life's meaning is to achieve nirvana, to a christian is to achieve salvation in the life to come, to a hedonist life's meaning is to gain as much sensual pleasure as possible, to a sadistic psychopath life's meaning is to inflict as much pains and sorrow on others. A humanist sees the meaning of life as making sure you preserve life and maintain social justice. Life does have meaning to people. It just depends on whatever you choose to accept as the meaning of life. Nihalist are the ones that see life as meaningless.

You are confusing yourself. You say life has meaning but it depends on what meaning is attached to it. Is Meaninglessness not a meaning to some?

Doing a micro study usig nairaland, How many atheists are here on nairaland and out of the few (lets say 500) about 3 have subscribed to life being meaningless and one even went as far as wishing we all went extinct.

Is meaninglessness not meaningful to him?

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Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:03am On Dec 16, 2016

ScepticalPyrrho:
why don't we discuss the errors of christianity instead?

Do not try to shift the goal post. You it was who brought up Buddhism and claimed to have done your research thoroughly did you you not? I am a Christian Apologist and i have also done my research thoroughly so my focus is on your Buddhism which you feel is at par with Christianity or Buddha being at par with Christ.

Which is why i have given you an assignment with those videos. Watch them and then come back to discuss how Buddhism is comparable to christianity. At least that is a research done right inside Buddhism.

Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons I Can Never Become An Atheist by damogul: 8:00am On Dec 16, 2016

jonbellion:
I admire diesm a lot
I just say to the best of my knowledge we can't know the true nature of our creator
So I just say I don't know
But religious Gods are a no no
Those are the versions of God I'm atheistic too

So you believe there is a God..Just that you do not subscribe to the religious God. Yet you do not know that is Deism? You subscribe to a personal God who is not as portrayed by the Bible and probably does not care about the goings on here on earth.

Dude you are a deist! Atheism is far from you.

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