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Christianity Etc › Re: Decoding The Visions In The Book Of Daniel (Islam in the Bible) by danwo: 11:00pm On Sep 15, 2012

obadiah777: I WATCHED 8 OF THE VIDEOS ON THE REVELATIONS OF DANIEL. THE MAN IS A CHARLATAN.

he says the 10 horns are all muslim countries trying to take over the world and that the antichrist is coming from the middle east.

the guy is a bum. he does not know what he is talking about however because he is white people like you think the white man is God.

thats your problem Danwo. you think Jesus is a white man and the white man is always right.

what if i told you the white man is the devil ?

@obadiah777

I watched that bit too

I had my reservation and on that had to spit out the bone(s)

nonetheless I wouldnt take away his credit based on that to paint him a fraud

Christianity Etc › Re: Decoding The Visions In The Book Of Daniel (Islam in the Bible) by danwo: 10:41pm On Sep 15, 2012

obadiah777: watched the series. all pure garbage. this guy is a charlatan

@obadiah777

Rich coming from one given the benefit of the doubt even though some think a few of your submission(s) are not worthy of consideration

I wouldnt be dismissive of Perry's knowledge that quickly.

Perry Stone is a teacher to be held in high regard & with respect.

Most of his study or research(es) are information & revelation.

Politics › Re: Prophet Reveals Prophecies For President Jonathan (watch Video) by danwo: 4:32pm On Sep 15, 2012

^^^^

Video part from 7:34 - 8.06 shocked

Hmmm. Watching this space

Mrs Jonathan not ill, she’s only resting abroad -Presidency

^{September 4, 2012 by Agency Reporter
Patience Jonathan}

https://cdn.punchng.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Patience-Jonathan1.jpg

There was confusion on Monday over the trip of President Goodluck Jonathan’s wife, Patience, to Germany.

An online portal, Saharareporters, had reported on Sunday that the wife of the President was being treated for “food poisoning” which she contracted during a visit to Dubai, United Arab Emirate 11 days ago.

However, the Presidency, in its reaction on Monday, denied that Mrs Jonathan had been hospitalised for food poisoning.

Her spokesman, Ayo Osinlu, confirmed that she had travelled out of the country but denied the rumoured illness. Osinlu said the President’s wife travelled out of the country to take a “moment’s rest”. He, however, did not disclose Mrs Jonathan’s whereabouts.

“If you look at her itinerary in August, you would be wondering how she was able to accomplish that. In the course of this week, she will be back home. But remember, it all depends on her plans,” he said.

The Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Reuben Abati, who also spoke on the matter, dismissed Mrs Jonathan’s widely reported illness as a rumour.

Abati insisted that the story “was a rumour and there is nothing like that”.

In its report, Saharareporters had revealed that an air ambulance airlifted the President’s wife to Wisbanden in Germany for emergency medical attention. It added that Patience had been undergoing treatment for about four days.

The United States-based Nigerian news portal quoted an unnamed source in the Presidency as saying that Mrs. Jonathan travelled to Dubai after the African First Ladies Summit in Abuja.

It also quoted sources in the Presidency as saying that the “emergency airlift departed for Wiesbaden, Germany” but could not confirm if “her treatment was being undertaken in that city.”

A national newspaper on Monday had reported that Mrs. Jonathan was being treated at a hospital called Horst Schmidt Klinik in Wiesbaden, Germany.

Horst Schmidt Klinik is where the late President Umaru Yar’Adua was hospitalised for kidney-related ailments. However, The PUNCH could not confirm on Monday if Mrs Jonathan was indeed in the hospital.

Meanwhile, an aide of the President, who pleaded anonymity, said on Monday that the President had ordered the first couple’s media aides to find a way to inform Nigerians about his wife’s trip and health.

It was learnt that Jonathan handed over the directive following the concerns raised over his wife’s alleged ailment.

He was said to have told his media team to liaise with his wife’s media team and agree on how to tell Nigerians what really transpired.

Following this directive, Abati and Osinlu met. Osinlu later told The PUNCH that they decided to speak on the issue “in order to save ourselves of the stress of responding to the widespread enquiries from our friends in the media one-by-one.”

He also said that the report that Patience was airlifted to a German hospital by an air ambulance was not true.

But he promised sending a statement which at the time of filing this report at 9pm, he had not sent.

http://www.punchng.com/news/mrs-jonathan-not-ill-shes-only-resting-abroad-presidency/

Christianity Etc › Bible Literalists - Re:1 Kings 12:10 by danwo(op): 3:19pm On Sep 15, 2012

"My little finger shall be thicker than my father's . . ."

This is an advice offered to King Solomon's son (i.e. Rehoboam) to say.

Why or what is the significance of the reference to King Solomon's appendage?

What are the advisers implying concerning King Solomon?

Which of the translations is closest to the original text considering some translators attempt at trying spare blushes or clean up the bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 1:39pm On Sep 15, 2012

Woolly mammoth tooth unearthed by builders in downtown San Francisco is hailed by experts as 'significant find'

^{Archeological find could be 11,000 years old
Ten-inch tooth uncovered during a dig for a new public transport centre

By Sara Malm

PUBLISHED: 09:26, 15 September 2012 | UPDATED: 10:52, 15 September 2012}

The fossilised tooth of a woolly mammoth has been discovered at a building site in San Francisco.

The tooth, which still has intact enamel, was dug up by a crane operator during an excavation for a new transit centre in the city.

The ten inches long, mud-coloured tooth has been called a ‘significant find’ by local paeleontologists who believe it could be 11,000 years old.

The tooth was found at the construction site of the city's new Transbay Transit Centre, a public transport hub being built in downtown San Francisco.

It is broken in two and missing a chunk, but is otherwise in relatively good condition.

‘It's a big deal, so we can study it, get some age dates which help us figure out tectonics [and] seismicity like the San Andreas Fault,’ Jim Allen, a palaeontologist and geologist for the transit centre project, said.

Other woolly mammoth fossils have been found in the Bay Area, but Mr Allen said the discovery right in the middle of downtown San Francisco - as well as the tooth's surprisingly good condition - was unusual.

The tooth is from the same era as fossils found in the La Brea Tar Pits in the Miracle Mile area of Los Angeles — a paleontological gold mine of Ice Age beasts that were trapped by asphalt bubbling upward through cracks and fissures. More than a million bones have been recovered from the ponds.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/15/article-0-14FF8988000005DC-414_468x370.jpg
^{Extinct: The woolly mammoth lived during
what's called the Pleistocene Epoch, 1.8 million to 11,000 years ago}

Brandon Valasik, the crane operator who made the discovery on Monday, told the San Francisco Chronicle that he was digging through sand about 110ft down when he noticed what resembled a rock but had an unusual shape and colour.

‘I was excavating using a hammer grab and going through a layer of sand, when suddenly I noticed some strange object that came out,’ he recalled.

‘It looked too perfect to be a rock.’

The transit centre construction site has yielded other treasures, including a gold nugget and artefacts from Irish neighbourhoods which dominated the area in the 19th century.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203649/Woolly-mammoth-tooth-unearthed-builders-downtown-San-Francisco-hailed-experts-significant-find.html#ixzz26XdKUNJ9

Christianity Etc › Re: A Pastor Wrote This To Me...... by danwo: 11:11pm On Sep 14, 2012

plappville: "God has not called women to preach, whether as a minister, or otherwise.
He has called His ministers to preach, not others
(whether men or women):"

My fellow Christiens please how true is this message,

i was telling a pastor that there were female figures that did worked for God,

i gave him some verses as proofs but He replied me with the above. Please say what you know.

THANK YOU.

plappville: Thank you ma sista, i am doing fine thanks thanks for checking on me.

Ur type no many for NL oo LOLOSsS. He is not so clear with his message.

I asked him what are the roles of women in the body of Christ then, i felt i have not been doing the right thing.

I am not suposed to preach to others because i am a woman.

This is where the whole story start from.

^^^

All are called without discrimination

Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest

Let your women keep silence in the churches?:
for it is not permitted unto them to speak;
but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law
- 1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV

1 Corinthians 14:34 quoted above is another scripture apart from 1 Timothy 2:8-15 quoted below ruined by the ill-informed

⁸I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
⁹In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety;
not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
¹⁰But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
¹¹Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
¹²But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
¹³For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
¹⁴And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
¹⁵Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing,
if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
- 1 Timothy 2:8-15 KJV

1 Corinthians 14:34 is a glaring and obvious rebutting where Paul was repeating the ridiculous the "Pharisees" were implying.

The legalists were hiding behind a synagogue law that women should be silent in church.

1 Timothy 2:8-15 is interesting on its own too. The cherry picking is nauseating.

If living by verses, then curiously, how much of 1 Timothy 2:8-15 is lived by?

1 Timothy 2:8 makes one wonder how many "men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting"

How many men live by verse 8? Pfftt.

Anyway, 1 Timothy 2:9-15 initially set off with "women" (i.e. women in general)

then at verse 11 got toned down to "woman" (i.e. a matrimonial woman)

The dynamics in verses 9-10 were seen suitable or appropriate and so advised the former (i.e. "women")

Verses 11-12 however are altogether a different story and matter

(i.e. verses 11-12 was an "opportunity-to-add" moment to include the woman (i.e. the matrimonial woman) in Paul's letter/discussion)

Where verses 9-10 were advised for a general setup, gathering or church context,

verses 11-12 was written with a matrimonial arrangement in mind.

This is evident where hinted that the woman (i.e. the matrimonial woman) should not usurp authority over the man (i.e. the matrimonial man)

It is important to note that Paul deliberately did not write "the women" but wrote "the woman"

"Usurp authority over the man" is actually about a past event which would have been unnecessary if the correct conduct was followed

Paul was advising that the woman (i.e. the matrimonial woman) could learn from another woman's mistake; Eve's (i.e. an earlier matrimonial woman)

The woman; Eve did not "learn in silence with all subjection"

Without authority or right, the woman; Eve

took the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil and gave the man; Adam

and the man; Adam allowed the woman (i.e. Eve, his wife) to teach him eat the fruit.

Verses 11-12 are about the woman in a Godly home and not about women or the woman in a large group, corporate, world etc setting.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Pastor Wrote This To Me...... by danwo: 10:15pm On Sep 14, 2012*

JeSoul: Me I just want to say hi to my sister Plappville

ps. the pastor probably means well but he is misguided.

^^^

Word up

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians,scholars,-what Was The Age Difference Between Jesus Nd John D Baptist by danwo: 10:59pm On Sep 13, 2012

Delafruita: read luke chapter 1.especially 1:80

k2039: Luke 1:80 And the child grew and became strong in spirit; and he lived in the desert until he appeared publicly to Israel.

It doesnt explain anything

^^^^

ROTFL grin

It does apparently

Delafruita: "appearing publicly unto isreal"

is according to the law of moses which required that every male child of 13 years old has to appear at the temple.

it was the rite of passage.

jesus also did same.this shows that john was already 13years old before jesus was born

@Delafruita

Luke 1 was a narration about John (i.e. from womb/birth up to age 13/desert with a bit mention of Jesus)

Luke 2 is the narration of Jesus(i.e. from birth up to age 13/temple)

Short becoming a "Far-to-see" turning into a "Sad-to-see read scripture in context

Text not read in context, is verse read in pretense

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Christianity Etc › Re: TD Jakes’ Daughter Ends Her 4-year Marriage by danwo: 9:26pm On Sep 13, 2012*

lepasharon: have you guys noticed that pastors children are always messed up?

^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDf1nohU47g

. . . "messed up" and with a message

Christianity Etc › Re: TD Jakes’ Daughter Ends Her 4-year Marriage by danwo: 8:58pm On Sep 13, 2012

obowunmi: the mere fact you sleep with a man means that you MUST marry him?

Do you know how many women that I have f,cked?

MacDaddy01: Zero?

Delafruita: and you think you deserve a medal for it.

i know your type.

but you idiotically skipped the part about HIS BABY IN HER WOMB

^^^^

". . . Carnal, sensual pleasure, stupifies conscience

and puts out the sparks of conviction . . ." - Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

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Christianity Etc › Re: Ww3 Is Inevitable by danwo: 8:42pm On Sep 13, 2012

obadiah777: YOU DO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS RIGHT ?

[size=5pt]ACCORDING TO THE BOOK OF REVELATION CHAPTER 16, THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON IN THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT,

OR WHAT ATHEISTS LIKE YOU LIKE TO CALL WW3 IS THE 7TH ANGEL POURING OUT HIS VIAL ON THE EARTH.

7 IS THE NUMBER OF COMPLETION. THAT SIGNIFIES THE END OF THIS GENTILE ERA ON EARTH.

WILL BE TIME TO USHER IN THE KINGDOM ON EARTH. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ? WE ARE AT THE END. [/size]

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ?

YOU NEED TO GET YOUR ATHEIST BEHIND TO A BOOKSHOP RIGHT NOW AND GET YOU A KJV BIBLE

AND TRY TO SNEAK INTO THE KINGDOM BEFORE THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS FINALLY CLOSED.

[size=5pt]THE COMPLETION IS HERE. ANCIENT BABYLONIAN EMPIRE WAS TAKEN DOWN BY THE MEDIO-PERSIAN.

AND TODAY, THE VIRGIN DAUGHTER OF BABYLON ( AMERICA ) WILL BE TAKEN DOWN BY A CONGLOMERATE OF NATIONS

BUT PRECIPITATED BY THE MODERN MEDIO-PERSIAN EMPIRE ( CALLED IRAN TODAY ).

THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, WHAT HAS BEEN WILL BE ( ECCLESIASTES 3 VS 15 ) ( ECCLESIASTES 1 VS 9 ).

THE LORD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR[/size]

^^^^

"And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom" - Luke 23:42KJV

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 11:41pm On Sep 12, 2012

Goshen360: Bros....i no understand you again sef. Abeg leave me alone joor, wetin sef.

@Goshen360

Bro I wouldnt try this with anyone else

You, me brethren, me blood, me homie . . . we sabi each other

Have the last word, no hard feelings,

as we agree to disagree without being disagreeable wink

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 11:12pm On Sep 12, 2012

Goshen360: ^^^
The interpretation you're giving to Gen. 1:2 is never of flood, it is the way it was "initially or originally" called to be. To my understanding, when you say "flooded", it means (to me) that it existed before and was "flooded" and this is exactly the kind of thing the Gap and Pre-Adamic teachers are saying. This scripture gave structure to Genesis 1:2,

But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 2 Peter 3:5, NIV

^^^

I am keeping schtum

and will pretend I didnt read, see or hear that grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 10:05pm On Sep 12, 2012*

Goshen360: No wonder God was forbidding me to avoid your question.........

on the above, is one of the reasons I asked you if you have not being studying from Dakes......

one of the things the Gap teachers teaches
- That the water of Genesis 1:2 is a flood and it was as a result of judgment from Lucifer's sin.....

That, the bible didn't teach.

That water is just the initial way the earth was first created

and the Hebrew people understood it to be formless.

I don't believe neither do I accept it as flood.....

you may want to share your view so we study together.......

I have learnt that apologetics is not forcing your view/understanding on others

BUT presenting the facts and evidence that will cut beyond ALL contradiction and be consistence throughout the bible.

^^^^

As previously said, Dake, I've heard. His material I havent yet had the priviledge to go over

You can shuffle your feet as much as you like and be in denial, the fact remains that

there however was a great flow of water or body of moving water, flooding the earth in Genesis 1:2

The bible was not teaching flood but proving a lowdown - a FYI as it were.

Making a factual statement with relevant information.

The bible at times on matters is silent, sometimes obscure, sometimes narrative

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,

so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear" - Hebrews 11:3

Going by the above verse when was "visible" water called into being?

The fact and circumstantial evidence in Genesis 1:1 is eyeballing you but you're staring down.

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 8:09pm On Sep 12, 2012

Goshen360: @ danwo,

Your own version of Gap and pre-Adamic world is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from what the Gap theory often says.....

Let me as (If permitted), do you understand what the gap theory and pre-Adamic world teachers teaches?...

because you are saying something total different from theirs.

danwo: At times, we hold on to certain things and ideas for far too long,

satisfied with these concepts, we're unable to let go

and many times simply become trapped by them.

@Goshen360

I do understand what the gap theory and pre-Adamic world teachers teaches

You're right about a deviation and this more so why in a previous post it was stated

I am not submitting an apologia on "Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory" . . .

"Thinking outside the box" - was the earth not flooded in Genesis 1:2?

Quite a few people think the earth was flooded only once - i.e. Noah's Flood or the Noahic Deluge

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 6:46pm On Sep 12, 2012

Goshen360: ^^^
Why don't you tell us about the answers since am "dodging" the question and share with us how it fits into the gap/pre-adamic world......

or what you think?

^^^^

When shoe gets flung in market place, the pesin wey shout out, nahin shoe nack for head grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 6:39pm On Sep 12, 2012

OLAADEGBU: Bible commentary on Genesis 1:2

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" (Genesis 1:2).

1:2 the earth.

In an attempt to accommodate the supposed evolutionary geological ages in Genesis, certain theologians postulated a long gap in time here between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, in which it was hoped these ages could be pigeon-holed and forgotten as far as Biblical exegesis was concerned. This gap theory, however, requires a worldwide cataclysm at the end of the geological ages, in order to account for the globally inundated and darkened earth described in Genesis 1:2. The cataclysm, in turn, is hypothetically connected with the fall of Lucifer in heaven (Isaiah 14:9-14) and his expulsion to the earth (Ezekiel 28:12-15), though such a cataclysm is nowhere mentioned in Scripture. However, in addition to its obvious contradictions with other important and clear Bible passages (e.g., Genesis 1:31; Exodus 20:11), the gap theory is self-defeating geologically. The geological age system (which is the necessary framework for modern evolutionism) is based entirely on the principle of uniformitarianism, a premise which precludes any such worldwide cataclysm, and requires the interpreting of earth history by the extrapolation of present geological processes into the remote past. The concept of geological ages is based entirely on a uniformitarian explanation of the fossil beds and sedimentary rocks of the earth’s crust, which would all have been destroyed by the postulated pre-Adamic cataclysm. Thus, any attempt to ignore or explain away the supposed great age of the earth by appeal to the gap theory makes an unnecessary and abortive compromise with evolutionism, and displays a lack of understanding of the geological structures and processes to which evolutionists appeal in postulating their long ages.

The real answer to the geological ages is not an imaginary pre-Adamic cataclysm, but the very real cataclysm of the Noahic Deluge (see comments on Genesis 6–9), which provides a much better explanation of the fossil beds and sedimentary rocks, eliminating all evidence of geological ages and confirming the Biblical doctrine of recent creation.

Genesis 1:2

1:2 was without form, and void.

The verb “was” in Genesis 1:2 is the regular Hebrew verb of being (hayetha) and does not denote a change of state unless the context so requires. It only rarely is translated “became,” as the gap theory postulates here. Neither does the phrase tohu waw bohu need to mean “ruined and desolated,” as the gap theory requires. The King James translation “without form and void” is the proper meaning.

Genesis 1:2

1:2 was upon the face of the deep.

The universe as first called into existence by Elohim was in elemental existence, still “unformed” and unenergized, not yet ready for habitation, “void” (see notes on Psalm 33:6-9; Proverbs 8:22-31; Isaiah 45:18; II Peter 3:5). It would not be perfect (i.e., finished) until the end of creation week, when God would pronounce it “very good” and “finished” (Genesis 1:31–2:3). The “earth” material was suspended in a matrix of water (the “deep”) completely static and therefore in “darkness.”

Genesis 1:2

1:2 And the Spirit...moved.

However, this condition prevailed only momentarily. Then, the “Spirit” (Hebrew ruach) of “God” (Elohim) proceeded to “move upon the face of the waters” (literally, “vibrate in the presence of the waters”). Waves of gravitational energy and waves of electro-magnetic energy began to pulse forth from the great “Breath” (another meaning of ruach) of God, the Prime Mover of the universe. The unformed “earth” material (Hebrew eretz), as well as the “waters” permeating it (Hebrew shamayim) quickly coalesced into spherical form under the new force of gravity, and the first material body (Planet Earth) had been formed at a point in space.

For more . . . .

^^^^

Let's repeat earlier ducked and dodged questions.

How many times was the Earth flooded?

#1. What does "first of its kind" mean?
#2. What does "after its kind" mean?
#2b. What is/are difference(s) between #1 and #2?
#3. In your own opionion, are #1 and #2 similar, remotely at all that is?
#4. Do you agree that translators are not infalliable and their translations are not God inspired like all scripture is?
(i.e. translations such as hebrew to english, greek to english, verse numberings, chapter numberings etc)

Answering the questions will pave way for next question(s)

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation To A Bible-based Discussion On The Tithing Ordinance & Christianity by danwo: 1:34pm On Sep 12, 2012

[quote author=petres_007]I know the steps outlined in the video.

Just can't seem to find the add/create poll button/link.

I think it may have been disabled or smth.

Its okay anyway. Thanks![/quote]^^^

You are right the feature seemed to have been decommisioned, is AWOL or has done a runner

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation To A Bible-based Discussion On The Tithing Ordinance & Christianity by danwo: 4:35am On Sep 12, 2012

[quote author=petres_007]I give up.

I know I've done it before but for the life of me can't remember how to setup a poll.

Could use some help.[/quote]^^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0oKrjxpeJw

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Posting#Starting_a_new_poll

Christianity Etc › Re: List Of Nairaland Pharisees by danwo: 1:05pm On Sep 11, 2012

CrazyMan: Could you elaborate more on your definition of a pharisee please?

obadiah777: pharisees and saducees are religious leaders of sorts

who specialize in gainsaying and cherry picking faults

and looking for faults so they can trip you up

kinda like in christ days

Christianity Etc › Re: List Of Nairaland Pharisees by danwo: 12:48pm On Sep 11, 2012

Delafruita: whats the criteria for been a pharisee?

and why the heck am i tagged as a saduccee?the only one on your list

^^^^

In a manner corresponding to obadiah777's way of reasoning

Pharisee is a "far-to-see"

Saduccee is a "sad-to-see"

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Christianity Etc › Re: List Of Nairaland Pharisees by danwo: 11:30am On Sep 11, 2012

obadiah777: ¹Reyginus
²Crazy Man
³Ihedinobi
⁴Mr Anony
⁵Danwo
⁶Delafruita is a sadducee
⁷Frosbel is a passive pharisee

add more to the list of Nairaland pharisees and sadducess if the spirit moves you

musKeeto: Lol.. what do you mean by Pharisees?

obadiah777: 7-Muskeeto- now he is a pharisee and sadducee combined lol

musKeeto: Lol, 7 is a perfect number, number of completion...

I'm surprised I made your 'list', yet JoAgbaje and Goshen didn't.. r u trying to start a new sect?
I mean, there were 12 tribes of Israel, but you Christians give tribes and divisions a whole new meaning...

@musKeeto

Maybe obadiah777 should have gone to Specsavers grin

You are #8

Christianity Etc › Re: The Greatest 'coup 'in World History About To Happen by danwo: 10:33am On Sep 11, 2012*

frosbel: Gents and Ladies, forget about politics and get well plans on this earth , it ain't gonna work , trust me

Have you heard that saying , 'its gonna get worse before it gets better' !

There is a new world order coming and believe me it is almost here , not the type preached by Alex Jones and co, this new order is the everlasting kingdom of Christ .

Do you want to be part of it, or are you so stuck with the affairs of this temporary life.

Let me take you on a bible tour about this kingdom.

First , let us talk about how this 'coup' will take place .

1. It shall come as destruction

"While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape." - 1 Thessalonians 5:3

2. There will be a might roar

"The Lord will roar from Zion and thunder from Jerusalem; the earth and the sky will tremble. But the Lord will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Israel." - Joel 3:16

3. He shall come with a mighty army

Joel 2:11 The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number, and mighty are those who obey his command. The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?

4. He will come with thousands of immortalised saints

"Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones" - Jude 1:14

Secondly let us talk about the reaction of the inhabitants of this worlds political kingdoms

1. They shall wail and lament

"BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen." - Revelation 1:7

2. They shall hide in caves

Revelation 6:15 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.

Isaiah 2:19 Men will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from dread of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth

3. Suddenly their riches, wealth , beauty , career , investments, etc becomes nothing , totally worthless.

"They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be an unclean thing. Their silver and gold will not be able to save them in the day of the LORD's wrath. They will not satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it, for it has made them stumble into sin." - Ezekiel 7:19

"Look here, you rich people: Weep and groan with anguish because of all the terrible troubles ahead of you." - James 5:1

Proverbs 11:4 Wealth is worthless in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death.

Zephaniah 1:18 Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them on the day of the LORD's wrath. In the fire of his jealousy the whole world will be consumed, for he will make a sudden end of all who live in the earth

4. The proud shall me made low

The eyes of the arrogant man will be humbled and the pride of men brought low; the LORD alone will be exalted in that day -Isaiah 2:11

Isaiah 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.

5. Jesus shall take control and of the kingdom , the new world order from everlasting to everlasting

" I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." - Daniel 7:13 - 14

"Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this." - Isaiah 9:7

6. The saints ( Jews and Gentiles ) , will reign with Christ forever.

“‘But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’ - Daniel 7:26-27

7. The wicked shall be cut off and destroyed from the new earth.

"They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power" - 2 Thessalonians
1:9

Isaiah 1:28 But rebels and sinners will both be broken, and those who forsake the LORD will perish.

https://www.bebaptized.org/thekingdom_files/image001.jpg

obadiah777: you have come a long way from your church doctrine days Frosbel. i am proud of you. great article

^^^^

And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? - Luke 3:10 KJV

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation To A Bible-based Discussion On The Tithing Ordinance & Christianity by danwo: 9:25pm On Sep 10, 2012

[quote author=petres_007]Nna mehn! See JAMB questions!! grin

I said no debates here na! cheesy

My take is that Malachi 3:8-10 is the Church's chair passage for the tithing teaching. wink

[/quote]@petres_007

It was one of them awkward "curiosity killed the cat" moments

Thanks!

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation To A Bible-based Discussion On The Tithing Ordinance & Christianity by danwo: 9:11pm On Sep 10, 2012

[quote author=petres_007]@everyone. . .

I'd like to appeal to you not to post any arguments for or against tithing in this thread.

There's a bunch of threads already for that.

I'd like this to remain as just the invite it is.

Only related comments please. Thanks! wink

[/quote]@petres_007

Hi, greetings . . .

Why is Malachi 3:8-10 the flyer's scripture of choice

and/or what is the reason Malachi 3:8-10 was the flyer's scripture of choice?

- drew the short straw?

Also which Malachi 3:8-10 translation is referenced here?

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 5:24pm On Sep 10, 2012

Image123: nl's theoloGISTS are still playing here. Goshen which day do you think God created crude oil?

OLAADEGBU: Let Dr. Andrew Snelling give you the answer to the origin of crude oil in the suggested link below:

Here are some extracts:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/origin-of-oil

So you can see how crude oil formed and that it does not have to take millions and billions of years to form.

danwo: @Goshen360

Dont play the "Judas Iscariot" card yet

because Proverbs 27:17 says "As iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend"

Obadiah777 too agrees with the above verse - seen Obadiah777 hint it

You haven't shown us anything we dont already know

so wipe that smirk off your face

The self-satisfied smile(s) don't suit you, so bin it and hit "Empty the Recycle Bin"

At times, we hold on to certain things and ideas for far too long,

satisfied with these concepts, we're unable to let go

and many times simply become trapped by them.

Since you are a scholar that "takes time to study"

let us check how much time you've taken to study floods.

The below EASY question will wipe the smug from your face

How many times was the Earth flooded?

^^^^

Let's repeat an earlier question Goshen360 dodged

How many times was the Earth flooded?

Answering that question will pave the way for the next qustion(s)

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 6:51pm On Sep 08, 2012

Goshen360: ^^^
Okay, te ti faramo 100%,

let me finish this dance and rejoice in the Holy Ghost

(Especially the 3rd video of Tope Alabi in Winners' Chapel, it's awesome bro),

less I quench the Spirit....then we might continue this thread on Monday....

But for now, am high in the Holy Ghost

and don't want to quench the Spirit with whom we are sealed......

abi k'oda bee ni?

^^^

Nahin ooo - "Ain't no party like a Holy Ghost party"

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 6:18pm On Sep 08, 2012*

Goshen360: This weekend is all Gospel tungba extra....

Arise from Zero to hero.....it's flowing

Since you turned this thread to who wants to be a millionaire,

my question is....from this video,

S'ofaramo k'emi di millionaire, t'owo ba de, mo ma toju e?

@Goshen360

"Faramo" 100%

"Bo se nda fun ee, o ti da femi naani" and vice versa

By the way, thanks for the tune(s), I've never heard those guys before

I have now added the twins to my collection for future airplays at gigs

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 5:43pm On Sep 08, 2012

Goshen360: ^^^
Chai, see as this my brother don finish me oo.

Which one be Iscariot card naw? Na kalo-kalo we dey play .

Okay, the earth was flooded once in Noah's time.

@Goshen360

" . . . the earth was flooded once in Noah's time"?

I hear you but yeah right! SMH ROTFL grin

Adding Noah to your reply was your escape clause. Hmm?

So do you want to phone a friend,

Do you want to ask
~~Delafruita~~ ~~SNCOQ3~~ ~~CrazyMan~~ ~~Mr_Anony~~
~~truthislight~~ ~~vislabraye~~ ~~Joagbaje~~ ~~iheanyi4u~~
~~mkmyers45~~ ~~Image123~~ ~~Ihedinobi~~ ~~obadiah777~~
~~OLAADEGBU~~ ~~debosky~~ ~~aletheia~~ ~~Sweetnecta~~
one of the audience?

or is that your final answer? grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 7:53am On Sep 08, 2012

Goshen360: @ Image123 and danwo (ore odale.....in the Lord )

On the crude oil and natural resources.......

Take a look at this and see if you guys can come up with something:

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2 Kjv

Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty,
who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under,
blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: Genesis 49:25 Kjv

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month,
the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up,
and the windows of heaven were opened. Genesis 7:11 Kjv

by his knowledge the deeps were divided, and the clouds let drop the dew. Proverbs 3:20 Niv

And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the LORD be his land, for the precious things of heaven,
for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath, Deut. 33:13 Kjv

Have any of you guys taken time to study on the "deep" in Genesis 1:2?

I have given scriptures....

try and see if you make anything out of it.

@Goshen360

Dont play the "Judas Iscariot" card yet

because Proverbs 27:17 says "As iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend"

Obadiah777 too agrees with the above verse - seen Obadiah777 hint it

You haven't shown us anything we dont already know

so wipe that smirk off your face

The self-satisfied smile(s) don't suit you, so bin it and hit "Empty the Recycle Bin"

At times, we hold on to certain things and ideas for far too long,

satisfied with these concepts, we're unable to let go

and many times simply become trapped by them.

Since you are a scholar that "takes time to study"

let us check how much time you've taken to study floods.

The below EASY question will wipe the smug from your face

How many times was the Earth flooded?

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 6:22pm On Sep 07, 2012

danwo: @Goshen360, Mon cher frère bien-aimé

I understand the worryness and skepticism

Please indulge me these questions

#1. What does "first of its kind" mean?
#2. What does "after its kind" mean?
#2b. What is/are difference(s) between #1 and #2?
#3. In your own opionion, are #1 and #2 similar, remotely at all that is?
#4. Do you agree that translators are not infalliable and the translations are not God inspired like all scripture is?
(i.e. translations such as hebrew - english, greek - english, verse numberings, chapter numberings etc)

Goshen360: 1.About the dinosaurs, are you guys insinuating that these dinosaurs were not destroyed during the flood of Noah?

danwo: ^^^^

The water during the Noah flood remained above the highest mountains for a year before receding.

Ask yourself this question, is a year enough to set those fossils preserved animals remains we've so far seen?

Dinosaurs? Bitumen? They are partners in crime here.

They go way back. Think about it, think how long it takes petrol to form

Image123: nl's theoloGISTS are still playing here. Goshen which day do you think God created crude oil?

Goshen360: Okay bros, make I give you the answer.

Crude oil was created with the initial creation of the earth in Genesis 1:2 and many more thing.

That is why it is called "natural resources".

I can prove it with scriptures if you doubt me or if you want me to prove.

I hope this answers your question.

Image123: you mean when the Spirit moved upon the face of the waters,

just thinking He probably spent some while ontop naija.

Anyhow, was the earth created in verse2 or verse1 and is the right verse day1?

thanks Gosh .

^^^^

"Oo ko nyoboro, boro boro, bi obe ewedu tohun tila, evading answering questions asked

If not that he is my brother, I would have called him a snake oil salesman.

Yeah the Spirit then leap frogged to Libya, Saudi, Alaska etc grin

"That is why it is called "natural resources""

" . . . called "natural resources"" this made my mouth laugh grin

"I can prove it with scriptures if you doubt me or if you want me to prove"

Yes ooo, prove it with scripture.

Of course, yes, we want you to prove it

Christianity Etc › Re: Discussing Genesis 1:1-2 On Pre-Adamic And Gap Theory - Delafruita Vs Goshen360 by danwo: 6:30pm On Sep 06, 2012*

Goshen360: ^^^

Am trying to help you see that the "order" you talked about is^{*presumed you meant if here} still valid.

Heaven was created first before earth.

What heaven then are we talking about in context or what heaven is this account talking about?

Certainly not the abode place of God, if it is the abode place of God.....

why don't we have the record here in Genesis then?

I am trying to help you see that the heaven being referred to in this context is the heaven made in verse 6-8 and later the earth.

It is this heaven that was later "filled" with the galaxies and light bearers.

When you take the "heaven" to mean the abode place of God, you are mistaken and it is out of context.

How can an account claim to write about the heaven an abode place of God and never say anything about it?

It will therefore mean, that is NOT what it's talking about.

Please read other translations and possibly, commentaries to see which heaven Genesis 1:1 is talking about.

That is why I said, the best translation will be the one with -s, plural.

^^^^

Je vous remercie encore une fois mon cher frère,

This is not my apologia nor me trying to be polemic for the sake or fun of it

I am not defending whatever the "Genesis 1:1-2 on Pre Adamic & Gap Theory" is

And he said, I beseech you, show me your glory Ex 33:18

And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. - Ex 33:20

And I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back: but my face shall not be seen - Ex 33:23

Naija says "a ti ibi pelebe, lanti mu oole je"

The narrator, Moses, had to start from somewhere. Give him a break . . .

Genesis 1:1 was used by Moses to make a factual statement before starting explaining how Adam's world came about

Note Adam is interchangeable for Man

Genesis 1:1 is a verse to introduce Genesis 1:2 onwards

The original text (i.e. lets leave out KJV or translations) did not have heaven with a -s

OK. Though you havent answered my previous questions.

Here are another set.

Did the original hebrew text have -s in heaven for Genesis 1:1?

When was earth created?

Do you or we know when earth was created?

What was created first? Heaven or earth?

Do you agree that the order of creation is Heaven 1.0; earth, heaven(s) et al?

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