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EasternActivist:
You're not smart as you might have thought being busted multiple times in different occasions.

Word of advice. Igbos are not your enemy shun the useless attacks bc if we reason una urhobo matter na serious gbege.

Igbo are one of the major ethnic groups that is the most friendliest to the minorities around them but do not take that for granted. We can cease to be such at anytime without prior information.

Oshe Rambo

pazienza:
In Igbo we say: Nwaeze adi efu na mba.[b]

The father never went after the prodigal son, the prodigal son must come back to the father and not the other way round.

Na dar small thing mean all this grammar?

R

Lostz:
just teasing her

The she is actually a him is what I said

Datazone:
In Sapele, Itsekiris are many. In fact, in the early days Itsekiris and Okpe (Urhobo Clan) dragged the ownership of Sapele in a Law Court. The Itsekiris lost the case at the state level or so and they took it to West African Court for appeal and they lost. Though they've since stopped it but the Itsekiris claim is still valid, here's why.


Genesis of Sapele land tussle:
The Okpes only documented ownership of a certain plot of land which ranges from the beginning of the town to mecahnic village to the market.


The Itsekiris, according to them, founded Itsekiri road, Yoruba road, Ugberikoko, Ajimele and many other communities and other areas from.the end of Urhobo boundary to the end of the town (Ugberikoko).


NOTE: The case in court was centred around the Urhobo plots of land in Sapele which the Itsekiris lost.


And for the records, most of the development in Sapele are Itsekiris owned. Until Yahoo Yahoo came, most of the finest houses and Structures you'll find in Sapele are Itsekiri owned.



As for Oghara, it is in Ethiope west LGA in Delta. There are itsekiri communities there too. I would have love name them but I've forgotten but I can dig them out if need be.

PS: Urhobos have king scatttered everywhere that's why they talk about warri not being solely for the Itsekiris. If Itsekiris do not practice this one king one crown style of monarchy. It would have been chaos in delta because Itsekiris would have created kingdoms in all urhobo and Ijaw LGAs they exist

Hmmm, I never really knew that Sha
Who outnumbers who in sapele today? And apart from pidgin English what other languages are dominant?

Lostz:
invite me to ogwashi too na. just pay for a nice hotel room . I will take care of the transport

Ozai wo be lole teme

Datazone:
You are right though there are Itsekiri communities in Sapele. Get your facts right for posterity sake.

Edited:

And most of the investments in Sapele are Itsekiris owned even till date. The finest houses and structures were erected by Itsekiri men and women

Are you itsekiri?

I hear itsekiri population is much in sapele and oghara

Datazone:
Mist likely the Ibibios. Until GEJ became presumed most Nigerians haven't heard of Ijaws. They claim to be the fourth but it is a big lie. Ae have seen more Urhobos than them. Again, we have more Urhobo celebrities than the supposed fourth largest tribe. Again, how many Inaws can you find on NL? Ibibio is the fourth, no arguments. Tiv, Urhobo or Bini should be 5th

Kanuri and Tiv are 4th and 5th EOD

Nwanyiogwashi:
oga you're the same person posting with different accounts

I gain nothing from such petty acts. For once you quoted someone without cancellation of their statement

Nowenuse:
Nice one. Yes Urhobo land is more urbanized than Anioma land.
Infact I keep telling my Anioma friends to thank their stars that they got the captial in Asaba, otherwise their homeland would have almost been nothing to write about.

Now Asaba can neutralize Urhobo parts of Warri urban/Uvwie/Udu in development.

Agbor can neutralize Ughelli. Obiaruku can neutralize Abraka, but Obiaruku is not populated with vibes like Abraka with the university.

Kwale can neutralize Oghara.

The Urhobos still have Sapele standing

Ogwashi Uku is nothing and can only compare the likes of Mosogar-Jesse.


In terms of human capital. It is almost a tie between Aniomas & Urhobos. However, I will say that Aniomas have a more higher quality population than Urhobos and this is not insulting.
Urhobos had and still keep on having many more children than Aniomas and this reduced the quality of the population.

Take the Enuanis for example, they are the most educated in Delta state in my opinion. You hardly come across a full blown illiterate from this area. All my life in Delta state, I have only come across one woman in her middle age from Enuani who was an illiterate. But for the Urhobos, Isokos, Ijaws, Itsekiris and even Ikas & Ndokwas, it is higher.

I attended Federal government college Warri & UNIBEN and through my years in both schools, Enuanis (Anochia/Oshimili people) were always at the top of the class and performed better than the Urhobos and others on average. These Enuanis also tend to come from richer and more educated middle-class families from my observation. .

However in terms of successful people. It is almost a tie between Urhobos and Aniomas. Urhobos almost exclusively founded and grew the comedy industry of Nigeria. They dominate this industry.
They carved a niche for Warri in Nigeria. Though, Aniomas are far ahead in capitalism and wealth creation.

Oil discovery came in too early for the Urhobos. It has unfortunately made many of them very lazy and reluctant with a strong sense of entitlement. ....
This character is worse among the Uvwie, Udu & Warri south Urhobos. So many of them do not want to go to school anymore, but want to be in charge of community funds and allocations. Oil is really more of a curse than a blessing abeg.

What do you mean by equate in development? Is it companies, industries and establishment? Or you mean population?. If it's population Anioma land is empty. The number registered voters in each local government shows that uvwie is more populated than oshimili south which contains asaba, okpanam and ibuzo and the might Agbor which is in ika south as 2.5x less population than ughelli North. But they are very few urhobo and isoko people in asaba while reverse is the case for Anioma in warri


I agree that urhobo and isoko people lack human capital development and most of the youths are lazy and that deve attitude is very smelly. I know Igbo are usually smart so no surprise should dey top the class but it's nowe e b like say u sef dey follow our urhobo brothers carry last for class that time o

If you grow up in Delta, how then are you able to speak hausa?

Kwashiman:
80% of Anioma are proudly Igbos and identity with their Igboness. Madam Ngozi Okonjo Iweala was on a public health awareness forum on BBC Igbo via a zoom video call few weeks ago, a forum to educate our people about the needs of staying safe amidst the Covid-19 crisis etc, and she didn't stop at nothing to always remind us that she's first and foremost an undiluted Igbo woman and there was no debating that. What you need to realize is that the war did us (our people) dirty, lots of people from my area denied their Igboness including a couple of my family members back then. It's a psychological battle. But the wave of identity crisis is now fast diminishing as many more of our people don't need to be told they are Igbo, they know it and accept it like a badge of honor.

But of course there will always be a few who are battling with whom they are, today they are Ika, tomorrow they are Anioma, the day after they are "Delta Igbo"... Like it's a circus show of confusion galore . But we shall overcome, the signs are looking good at least.

Ika and ukwani people don't agree with this your submission

Liliantalks:
my dear more and more Igbos on social media not real life . The highest an anioma will be addressed with is delta Igbo not Igbo. I can’t be arguing with u. If u are Igbo that’s ur business.

This is painful but it's the truth, the likes of pazienza would never admit it

Nowenuse:
Isokos are not as small as you think they are.
If you add Urhobos & Isokos together, Isokos make up to 30% of the population, if not more.

People look down on Isoko numbers cos they have only 2 LGAs and migrate from their land like nonsense.
Isokos outnumber Itsekiris by far and can measure up to the Ijaws in Delta state if not outnumber them.

I knew Isokos were so many looking back when I was in schools. In my secondary sch in Warri, for every 10 Urhobos you find, you find like 6 Isokos. Infact in my department and faculty in Uniben, Isokos equalled Urhobos in numbers. Living in Warri, Isokos can give Urhobos from outside Warri area (i e Ughellis, Okpes & Ethiopes) a good run for their money in numbers.

It's unfortunate that Isokos got only 2 LGAs. If we had ethnic census in Nigeria, so many lies would have been exposed.
Imagine somebody here (Senatordave1) claiming Itsekiris are more than Isokos.

When I was in Uniben, there was only 1 Itsekiri girl in my department while Isokos were dragging numbers with Ishans & Afemais.

People just claim Itsekiris & Ijaws have numbers in Delta state, but you don't see them anywhere.

I have often thought of it too, even here in lagos I have come across by far more Isoko people than urhobo. Even in my dept @ uni too. If not for undeniable fact, I don't know but I would have thought the margin between us wasn't so wide
As for ijaw and itsekiri, you hardly see them anywhere

pazienza:
This is what gives you minorities adrenaline rush huh!

When Igboids deny their Igbo heritage?
All your rigamaroling were all aimed to having her disclaim Igbo?
She is on her own. She cannot speak for the rest of Anioma. There is no way of knowing if she is really an Anioma person or not, just as we can't tell if Nwanyioanioma is Anioma.
But we know in life , that there exists Anioma persons who identify as Igbo first and foremost and those who doesn't. So we know that she and Nwanyianioma whether frauds or real, represent two groups in Anioma.

I notice that when it suits you minorities, especially when you want to abuse Igboids, they become Igbos, but when disuniting them to achieve your aim of dividing and dominating them, you try to claim they are not Igbos, you support those of them who are Igbophobic so as to make sure Igbos from SE don't interfere in your agenda, and when you are done separating from SE, you go on attacking the fractures in their unity. I can see where some of you are already trying to detach Ukwuani from Anioma, in bid to water down the strength and threat their unity pose to your claim to numerical superiority, while you fight voraciously to present unity of Isoko, Okpe and Urhobo, even when our eagle eyes can see the obvious fracture lines in your midst.

I don't blame you though , I blame the Igboids that have refused to grow brains and have refused to see through your petty games.

Modern day Igbo nationalist like myself have decided to stay off Igboids issues and allow you minorities remind them of who they are like you always do whenever the table turns in their favor, like Professor Sagay did in this piece:http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/essays/politics/SagayOnDeltaCapital.html

https://www.nairaland.com/2858845/prof-sagay-many-igbos-didnt
In Igbo we say: Nwaeze adi efu na mba.

The father never went after the prodigal son, the prodigal son must come back to the father and not the other way round.

The Anioma lady in question said she isn't igbo not me

Liliantalks:
who’s supporting you ,, , u r bitter n u are not Anioma , and it’s obvious. I am against the bitterness not ur points , ANIOMA’s r not Igbos , and aniomas are first deltans before Igbos, that’s why we r called delta Igbo , not Igbo delta . I dont applaud bad character.

Cc pazienza, igboid

Modphase:
Where is your father a nobody in the scheme of lagos

That's unnecessary and very petty of you

Liliantalks:
please u hv failed to make a point , yes I forgot oleh and it comes after abraka. Warri = Asaba , because like it or not Asaba is the capital of delta state n that is where all the governmental headquarters are.

Please help me understand you
Warri = Asaba in what exactly?
Your ranking was based on what?

Liliantalks:
u can’t even compare Agbor with Agbharo

See when it comes to urbanization in delta state
warri,= Asaba, Agbor , sapele, then oghara Ughelli , Ogwashi, abraka , ozoro then agbaro, Kwale, Obiaruku , and the Rest follows .

Kwale before oleh and warri = asaba

Babe you are very high

enemyofprogress:
the money belongs to Tinubu

While lagos continues to rot away. Nawa o

Good for the LASG but as residents of lagos we have not 1k of it in action. Sanwo olu is a failure

Nowenuse:
Igboid is actually Ignorant of this.

Actually, the Isokos are the ones assimilating the Igbo speakers in Ndokwa LGA.

It's actually true, some of their communities with the usual Umi this umu that are Isoko speaking.
I personally believe that urhobo and isoko were edoid groups who migrated into very sparsely populated igboid lands amongst also the virgin lands which they settled.
Anibeze in bayelsa state for example is an Isoko settlement without any modern trace of igboid population but the name of the community means nothing in isoko language but is self explanatory in igboid languages.
This is just my personal opinion tho and shouldn't be taken as facts tho

Liliantalks:
Shame on you , weyti Una Dey do for here na rubbish

She's just a child, she doesn't want to be reasoned with so. Don't take it too serious

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=Efewestern post=89780308]

Anioma dominate the financial sector and are also one of the southern group with huge concentration in the armed forces in southern Nigeria. Every family has a son in either the army, the navy, air force or police.

They very much are present in the movie industry, all thanks to the Asaba movie factor.

@pazienza not trying to appeal to emotion, the moniker is of questionable character, he/she has a motive of creating the account, very uncommon to attack your neighbors unprovoked.

How many Urhobos wake up every morning to attack Anioma unprovoked online? [/quote[/s]] You can talking nonsense all you like but let me tell you that I don't pretend to like Urhobo so whatever you say is your business

Ada Anioma carry go

Nwanyiogwashi:
Who are you?and what will you do? I don't fear any Urhobo people

The Ada of Anioma land
Nwanyiogwashi, nwanyioma Carry go no shaking

Eastlink:
That’s you cup of tea, you can as well line your family and other confused IPOB members and vote for GEJ. Who loses at the end. You'll keep remaining irrelevant until your likes get sense.

See as the chosen race umuIgbo dey fight themselves anyhow for public in a failed attempt to defend Anioma

Liliantalks:
I didn’t even know it was an urhobo dude ,but that’s really sad and immature of him , I can give a million and one reasons why the urhobos can’t measure up with the aniomas in different sectors, but I want to choose the path of peace.

The person you initially quoted was nwanyiogwashi

pazienza:
Well. If any other minorities join them. will hit all of them together.
Me I no send.

I no dey for pampering. I don't spare any act of Igbophobia.

It's better we all burn in the hate together. When everyone understands they don't have monopoly to hate, we will all respect ourselves .

Oshe Hitman

Liliantalks:
then It’s a big shame u r this ignorant ,, forming Igbo here , rather than identifying with ur fellow deltans, setting a margin between urhobos and aniomas , this is not how we roll , I know of many urhobos who can fight for okowa , and who voted for him. Don’t create hate in people’s hearts for absolutely nothing .

Nicely said sist, I wish that girl could take a hint from you. What lga are you from?

YungMillionaire:
Mister man, it is you and your tribe that is lost not us (Itshekiris). Are you madt? Name your tribe so I can also insult them the way you insult mine. Idiot.

I hear itsekiri is Yoruba

EasternActivist:
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So you don't want to face your minority status abi.

Nigeria is how many years old, and your ethnical highest position ever recorded happened just last year and you get mouth to whine?

My friend we're not your mate. Respect your status. And enjoy your little achievement in peace or you get it in pieces.

Minority is just a geographical factor. Urhobo people would constitute a majority or a very visible tribe should they be in cape Verde, Liberia, Sierra Leone, guinea, Namibia etc and igbos would be a minority should they be in India, Brazil, Pakistan or China.
Minority and majority statuses are just geographical "expressions", it's not real

Nowenuse:
I saw it, I was going to quote you to let u know that Isokos were added to Urhobo population in those figures.

I know, but even if you remove 20% from it, it still outnumbers them