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Looks like there's a perception that Alozie wing is our weak link from the Aussies. Who else noticed?

Pidginwhisper:
Thats not even a card offense

Same tackle Khadija shaw did for that overrated and overprotected Wendie Renard and got red carded. It was a foolish booking. Two slips and the refs on both occasions are foolish and biased. I hate how this is glaring in the games. Managers aren't even helping. We need a Mou or Wenger reaction abeg.


See how they reviewed that handball without a word? Commentators are sentimental too. Lol. Smh.

mostob:
Your answer to the bolded ..Club side.


The ones invited to the national team, were they not part of the U20 teams? Must we fill the team with all the U20 girls?

Different countries with different structures. Oya name the U17s in this world cup and let's check their profile. For the last time, that other teams are doing so doesn't mean we should do the same. Those who included the U17s in their team did so due to the exceptionality of the player or due to the fact that there is no better option.

I'll let this mata rest. But i know the clubside stuff. I'm just countering that age long mentality which i believe you know exist. Many will be at clubs but will still not get it.

We better beat this Aussies. Two more key injuries. We have virtual no excuse now.

codemaniacs:
If Ajibade wasn't good she won't be playing for Athletico Madrid.

Ajibade is better...

Its colonial mentality to speak negatively about your fellow hard working countrymen and women.

Ajibade and Ordega have been abysmal lately o. Especially if you judge by their recent games for Falcons. The ish is they are in big teams, but they can't show same in GWG. Always. Like always!!

Danielnino00:
Nigerians tend to be sentimental when it comes to youth players.. I recall seeing comments about the last batch of u-17 boys being better than the super eagles because they played some food football... Lol

Ajakiaye and Flourish are talented players that still need time to develop. Especially with respect to their decision making on the ball .. if there's any player in the cadet team I would pick aside the trio of Abiodun, Imuran and Demehin, it would be Esther Onyenezide because of her creativity...

It's not sentiment. Its the fact that we have taken this mentality for decades with virtually nothing to show and prove that it is the best to adopt as a pattern over the decades. We see other footballing nations giving chance to players in developing phase and they got better. The question is "can't someone be developing while getting exposure at same time?" Or is there any rule or stats that prove it is highly detrimental to our players? Now this same Esther you picked, we all agree she is still developing, but we know that she can do stuff if she gets a spot. The two can go hand in hand.


Or are the u17 players fielded by other nations as talented as the Nigerian ones?


We just need to bin that mentality. It is working for many. Why is it suddenly so different when e reach our side?

How else does one garner experience and team spirit if not by inclusion?


If there are no surprising moves, there will be no revelations. Sentiment or not.

All these are for tomorrow sha. We meuve.

mostob:
There is something you left out. We shouldn't do this because other teams are doing same. Quality should come first. Deborah Abiodun is an example. The coach felt she can be a stopgap till Ayinde comes back and she was picked. We're lacking numbers at the back which made it easy to pick Tosin and Rofiat who are already pros. You think if we have an exceptional forward among the U17 and U20 sets, we wouldn't pick her? Flourish is good but still raw. Physically, she is not there yet. As for Ajakaiye, she is good but not there yet at all. All she has is raw pace. Her decision making and finishing is poor currently. There are also Esther, Bello, and Idoko.

With time, these girls will develop and they will get their chances.

All fine. But the reality is even if we see players talented than the ones I've been hammering, that mentality is still there. We know it is a serious Nigerian thing. We all know. Shebi this man even fought to include her name, else she won't be here. But we move. We have to drop that mentality across all our teams. It's not helping. The excuse given to back it up as well.


Sidenote: so our world cup Goals vs conceded is triple inferior? If 63 is GA and -43 is GD......that means na only 20goals we don score in 8Appearances(32years)!!!


Yeh!!! My chest!!!!!


Big inference then.

Deltamani:
She’s the Best Right Winger in Women’s game atm so if the Coach can’t build the team around her or bring out the best in all the Stars they have in the team then she isn’t fit for the job..
U can’t be having this World Class Players and be Playing this Bad.. Imagine your star Players all angry at same time.
1.Graham Hansen
2. Haavi
3. Frida Maanum
4. Mjelde M
5. Guro Reiten
6. Ingrid Engen
7. Ada Hegerberg

These ones don ja already. A pity. Dressing room trouble.

Deltamani:
I really need to ask a question, Sabastine this, Ajakaye that… For a start are they better than the ones picked for the World Cup or Are this two young Ladies going to bench Uchenna Kanu, Monday Gift or even Esther Okoronkwo or you guys are talking of just mere inclusion into the team??

Simple! Inclusion. That's all. It will be highly delusional of me to want them to be outright starters at this World cup even if that is not such a big deal seeing the number of starters from age grade players so far. I'm even taking this stance more cos of that time excuse we've been using since 18th century. Sometimes, these newbies have better confidence than some starters.(Abiodun has proven that)


But inclusion. They were supposed to be here. But as i said, selection headache btw two elephants can't make them considered one bit.

I don't care what anyone says but I'm very much opposed to Team "let them wait for their time"

We can't even carry the best players of the u17 and u20 world cup like countries that participated in. Yeah, Imuran and Demehin dey but... Forwards?? None!! Well, I'm not pretending we had a selection brouhaha, but we meuve.

[quote author=Deltamani post=124647435]hegerberg leaving before it even started

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A bit sus here tho pic.twitter.com/9ETdDOLW1Z

— 𝐲𝐜 ⚜️🏆 (🔛YURIBUS) (@parzytekii) July 25, 2023

excuse is the cover. Just like Grace Chanda illness nonsense. The facial reaction of her teammates shows that she's fit but something happened in that dressing room. What a World Cup this is!!

Jojodjo:
Don't know if it's too early but I'm beginning to feel guilty for campaigningagainst Randy due to past loses.

The man seems to know what he's doing because I thought Onyi would start ahead of Payne but he's justified because Payne has proved herself.

forget that thing. Although the recent Gbasgbos made me keep saying that "by the time randy leaves, he will look more a saint than a villain, and that's cos of Nff stupidity and arrogance"


He is still inept in many aspects. Forget.

Deltamani:
This is what I expect of Alozie attacking foray. The way Lucy Bronze goes high up the field because she's covered defensively

Yash wrote on Twitter:
Germany deployed Huth at RB once again today against Morocco & it was fun to watch the instructions play out on the field. #FIFAWWC

•Brand (RW) coming narrow & dropping deep
•One of the midfielders slotting as the outside back situationally
•Buhl high and wide on the left

Ordega can never do this. If she must, then they have to relief her of defensive duties, which I don't see. This thing is training. Nobody for nff fit even tell coach say make we play this way small for testing. Na to dey foam for mouth like Ademola upandan.

The extra man system. Confusion for any team wey no sabi. Plus if you employ zonal marking---OYO

ThePresenceWtf:
Flourish selfish? Someone that literally looks for a 1-2 with teammates, or is it the one that always crosses the ball once she's beaten her player/marker instead of cutting inside looking to shoot?

Her videos during the CAF W Champions league and Women's Champions League WAFU Zone B Qualifiers are allover Facebook, where she was creating loads for her teammates and scoring as well..( in the qualifiers)


Perhaps there's another Flourish you're referring to?

Exactly my point. If one watched her at Cafwcl, you'll want her in this current setup. She is a teamplayer with an eye to look for space and a teammate.

Idiko1:
Nigerians in particular and Africans in general do not appreciate players with ton of skills. They seem to prefer carpenters to craftsmen.

I tell you. The presence of Esther and Echegini is a breather. Else, na same same from the rest. We often look at them by potential than by the kinetic. Not me! I can't do that again.

Idiko1:
I do not think so. Flourish selfish play holds her down for any selection. I had fielded Ajakaye before Sabastian.

Combine both cafwcl and wafu cup matches and you'll realized Flourish no selfish reach Ajakaye.

PDPGuy:
Won’t be a bad idea if Waldrum deploys a 5-person, or a 4-person midfield.

Alozie and Plumtre as Wingbacks. It will work. To me, na majorly setpiece gonmake me chose Payne to start over Either of Echegini or Esther. We are Terrible when Payne and Alozie are not standing over our setpieces.

potland:
i cant wait to see ajibade on the pitch. The girl is not always lucky. Last worldcup, that was how Thomas deneby kept her on the bench until the last match

He shooting is her top problem. Irks me that someone that talented is mot putting in hardwork to improve that aspect of her game. More vexing that she's always in better positions to bury sleek chances than Oshoala but will waste them.

mowah:
Bro, spent last night analyzing Australia’s matches this year and I can confidently say that cross and nod will not work against them (might only work for them against us although they even aren’t so good at scoring it but don’t count them out). If we want to beat the Aussies or get a result, we’ll have to do it the hard way, by actually playing direct football with intelligent & accurate passes and defending well, we won’t even need dedicated wingers and counter attacks else they’ll tame us. And the full backs, CBs and DMs will be extremely important on Thursday cos most of Australia’s attack will come as those square plays and through ball into the box. I will go with a front 3 of Kanu, Oshoala and Ajibade. But Ajibade will have to spend more time in midfield alongside Payne to help transition into attack. That’s just my take, I’m open to criticism, corrections and appraisals till the reality of Thursday’s match comes

The absence of Sam Kerr has impact on their all rounda approach. She makes things work a great great deal for them. It will work because that is a weakness noticed vs Ireland, esp that gk wey no sabi. It's the midfield battle one can be worried about, but Ayinde is returning.

PDPGuy:
This formation would not be bad vs Australia

————-Demehin—-Ohale—-Plumptree———-

—Imuran—Ucheibe—Echegini—-Ayinde—Payne

—————Oshoala——Kanu———-

Imuran and Alozie as wingback so we can provide crosses throughout. Oparanozie starts cos cross and nod only effective that way. But one thing is sha certain. Ajibade abd Ayinde are starting next game. So this won't work.

labas370:
You were right. They played same set with oshoala and oparanozie

They were different sets actually. I just searched for details all over again. I guess Germany being the opponent on both occasions caused the mixup. I even saw Courtney Dike all over again during this search. Revelation of the year award in 2014 but that was the end of anything else. Naija sef!

potland:
These Brazil ladies are exciting to watch

One can see they've trained together so hard and for long. Everyone seems to know where they are plus passing accuracy is top notch. Don't spend too much time with the ball at your feet as well. I hope Alozie learns this before Thursday.

Deltamani:
After the U20 World Cup in 2010 everyone thought Esther Sunday was the New Stella Mbachu then because of her Skills, pace and everything but 2014 to come Fransisca Ordega fully displaced Esther Sunday.. I think Franny would have done that long ago in 2012 if not that she missed 2012 WAFCON alongside Oparanozie because of injuries and their Clubside didn’t release them for the tournament then…

I can’t Compare the Flourish Sabastine and Ajakaye of now with the Ordega of then, cause Ordega came in with full force…

True. Ordega never get 2nd since then at u17 level till date. Girl was just netting and netting and... These two, i pray they don't end the Esther Sunday way. That girl was too good to not have a good career.

Deltamani:
Popp was never Asisat Oshoala competition mate at grade okay…. Desire Oparanozie, Ebere Orji were of the same set with Popp not Oshoala please..

seems i keep mixing it up

Deltamani:
Giulia Dragoni (16) becomes the youngest player to ever grace the field for the Italian women's team at the Women's World Cup.

She was in action for 83 minutes. Impressive 👏🏾

Where are Team wait for your time to see this? Irony is she may not even be as talented as the ones we are saying should wait. But we move. Exposure is very key, talent or not!

mostob:
We can do this but our coach is just clueless. We boast of pacy FBs in Imuran, Alozie and Nicole. Imuran is even a good crosser of the ball. In Ucheibe, we have a player who is comfortable slotting in-between the CB freeing up the FBs. See eh... coaching is a big problem in Nigeria football.

Exactly!! We have the personnel already. Our own is always diff and its enraging.

If we play like this vs Australia and sama them with cross and nod, o pari. Their GK, Arnold, na full blown Otu. I'll pick the Moroccan gk over her anyday. She struggled throughout the cornerkicks Ireland played. We can use that to advantage. The goal Australia got was from pk sef caused by inbox tussling for aerial ball. I hope randy noticed this and tells the ladies to try something similar. High chance is it will end in pk. It's not Everytime person suppose win challenge for box. Floating balls and tussle and down. Pk.

potland:
asisat is not giving her best. I miss rashidat

We still don't get the best and i dunno why. I see Popp her competition mate that year and just feel down. But she's a threat anyday sha.

codemaniacs:
The same Sebastian was the reason the U20 didn't get to the semi-final because she wanted to dribble every defender instead of passing into the box.

Anytime Ajakaye was at the wings she always crosses or passes the ball into the box.

Sebastian also falls down a lot and in the world cup the referees won't blow their whistle for her.

Ajakaye is more of a team player than Sebastian. Ajakaye will press, close gaps, run to the wings and pass or cross which can also give the SF corner kicks.

While Sebastian will run to the wings and try to drive into the box with step-overs or pace to try and score on her own and she can also win the SF penalties if the referees are fare.

Oshoala was fouled and the referee didn't call it a foul.

At all. I disagree

Sebastine is a more rounded player than Ajakaye. Both will come good with time. Ordega at that level was something else already and in world cup team by 2011. Both aren't near her beast mode that year but are as good and Sebastine is the better player. Although her outing in the Cafwcl is not that impressive.

codemaniacs:
Super Falcons and Super Eagles need to improve and upgrade their attacking formation..

Super Falcons would have only Oshoala in the box or in the wings and there will be no one in the box waiting for a cross or a pass but if you watch the European teams wheb they are attacking they have at least 3 - 5 players in the box while another 2 - 3 are behind the attacking players in the box and 2 players are back defending.

Why is it difficult for the S.F and S.E to train how to attack this way.

Imagine having Osimhen, Boniface and Moffi e.t.x. waiting in the box or having Oshoala, Onumonu, Oparanozie e.t.c waiting in the box then ucheibe, Payne, Ayinde behind them.

Was just about to talk about this. I agree that it is hibernating for now. I don't want to use Dead. 11 shots and 1 on target is not good for any top team at the World Cup....


See how the Germans played...


We are yet to set up in such a way as to isolate the extra man/woman. Madrid and Man City do this well for the Men's team. Lyon, Wolfsburg and Arsenal do it perfectly well for the women's team. A midfield of Ucheibe and Ayinde would help. But our full backs need to go all wing backs to stretch any opponent. I hope we replicate something like this. All these longballs from Nnadozie is to nobody's advantage. Na demehin wey dey fear pass be the weak link for this setup

JohnBullMySon:
Every small thing, this person or that person is corrupt and biased. Rubbish talk.

Morocco have put a lot of hard work into their football unlike Nigeria that has much more talent at it's disposal.

You are right about Morocco but that's going to take a decade before we see the fruits. Till then. Besides, you can't see the way Falcons played against Canada and not accept that that display shows hardwork. The only slip up was from Ordega causing pk and abiodun red card.

Unlimited22:
Omo safe to say we did very well against Canada

Every other African team has lost.

Even after that Canada game intensity, you just feel and know deep down that the remaining caf reps can never give such intensity against their opponents. I was expecting 3-0. But na 6 enter
Alll from cross and nod. Like someone said, they are waiting for the red to give 2 red cards to win the Germans.

Magaia wasn't even in the screen space by the time Kgatlana's space took up the ball to set up that goal. What's wrong with African teams?😤😤😤
Lucky goal, but why don't they attack in numbers? It's annoying? See sweden putting 6 bodies forward.

South Africa can't even defend setpieces. 😤🤣🤣🤣



All the red cards so far have something in common. Lets see how Germany do MAR.

Deltamani:
Well with the terrible football 🇿🇲 Zambia played against Japan 🇯🇵 I don't see this happening
This is not cosafa cup, Olympics or a friendly match. This is the world cup. Zambia will be lucky to even score a goal, The earlier Zambians understand this, The better …!

They easily forget that isolating her and whoever will give her a long pass is very easy to do. Plus they played crap vs Japan. No vibe or passion.