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Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 5:03pm On May 13, 2015
eddycolo:
I honestly think you are not paying attention to what my questions askes you.

On the speeding car example you used above. you said the people you sped pass look like they are moving away from you (the one in the car). Now talk facts, not what it looks like. Are the people actaully moving? Or it looks like they are moving but in actaulity not moving. Which one is it?
consequently yes...in your perspective in the car(at a constant speed) you are stationary while they moving away from you...and in their perspective the same applies...it's RELATIVE to each observer's perspective...

In the classical sense or mundane reasoning,the people are stationary, this is very fallacious...you can't put one observer's perspective over another...

I said, what is the effects of light wave when you (the observer) are moving away from the light source? Not the light source moving away from you. Is it blue or redshift or no effects at all. Of course you said redshift. But you got me confused of your answer by posting an article from wiki telling me the effects of light wave when the light source is moving away from the obsever. Thats not what I want to know. I want to know the effects when the observer is moving away from the light source.

If your answer is still redshift, my question is how can you tell that the observer isnt the one moving away?
It's RELATIVE it doesn't make a difference who moves away from what....the increase in distance away from the any light source would still bear the same result...hence the above explanation I gave you

Or the observer and the light source moving away from each other at the same time. Why are now so sure that a light sources 2x the distance is moving 2x fast?
This just shows you weren't ever paying attention...
Here's a recap...;
Space expands and it can expand faster than light at sufficient distances...
Expansion of space pulls galaxies away from each other...
Galaxies relative to each other which are moving away are redshifting in either observation...
Galaxies spaced twice relative to you are 2x moving away and so are you to any observer there...

Do you have problems comprehending this?! undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Female Atheist? by davien(m): 3:47pm On May 13, 2015
Esdb3:
Well dummy John is a christian name and one of the greatest men with that name was a disciple of Jesus who you ridicule.
lol....I see I ticked a nerve ...goodbye..
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Debate Or Argue With An Athiest by davien(m): 3:29pm On May 13, 2015
vooks:
Wassup my negro,
Am still waiting for the Origins thread grin
Let's say I did make such a thread what would you present in it besides pseudoscience? undecided

I'd reckon you'll also call davidylan to do his part too by directing me to answersingenesis...lol grin
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Debate Or Argue With An Athiest by davien(m): 3:23pm On May 13, 2015
You know you don't have a valid point when you project your own position on your opponent....

Christian: I'm religious!? Well you're religious too!

Christian: I have faith!? Well you have faith too!

Christian: The bible is a fairy-tale!? Well science is a fairy tale too!


Creationists like vooks and OLAADEGBU are a classic example of this...
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Female Atheist? by davien(m): 2:52pm On May 13, 2015
Esdb3:
Brother atheist bearing 'john' how are you now, been long wassup.... How is business....
Did I insult her? Did I mention anything about her marriage? I was talking in general terms.

Wait you aint the groom are. You grin??
So the name "john" didn't exist till your religion came?
You're almost as goofy as kingebukasblog... grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 2:41pm On May 13, 2015
eddycolo:
You seem not to know when someone agrees with you. Regarding object traveling faster than light because of the expansion of space, how is want I said earlier different from yours.
I just wanted to clarify that we were saying the same thing...so it's best to always ee specific..
Regarding your comment about galaxies two times the distance, moving 2x as fast away from us. My question is, if nothing is stationary in the unverse. If everything is moving at a speed close or faster than light, then how do you tell if the thing 2x the distance and moving 2x the speed is moving away from us and not us moving two time away from the thing?
It's practically the same thing to each observer....when you're in a car and you're accelerating, people you pass look like they're moving away from you and to them you'd be moving away from them...that's why speed is RELATIVE to each observer...

Another question is;
What is the effects of light wave when you moving away from the light source? Red or blue shift, or nothing at all? Note this is not a random question. It relates to the points raised above.
It's still a redshift

If a source of the light is moving away from an observer, then redshift (z > 0) occurs; if the source moves towards the observer, then blueshift (z < 0) occurs. This is true for all electromagnetic waves and is explained by the Doppler effect.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift


I could point you to a simplified childrens annotation if you're interested...
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 12:38pm On May 13, 2015
Eddycolo here is a great video explaining in detail...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBr4GkRnY04
Christianity Etc › Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by davien(m): 5:40pm On May 12, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Evolution is fairytale for adults while science confirms the Bible.
I'm sure science doesn't confirm sticks turning to snakes, lakes turning to blood and immaculate conceptions unless you mean pseudoscience...... grin
And it's funny how you say something is a fairy tale when the definition of fairy tales involves magic, giants, witches, wizards, incantation spells, beings of extraordinary power and speaking things into being from thin air....
Sorry but it's time someone told you to get your head out of your a.$$ grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 5:35pm On May 12, 2015
eddycolo:
I understood what you meant by object moving faster than light, thats why I said as a result of relativity. Which means expanding space carries objects along with it as it expands faster than light.

My question now is, if space expands faster than light and carries a light source with it. How is it that we are able to see the light from billions of light years away. It is just like running on a treadmill with someone standing in front of it. You will run on it but never gets to the person in front of your treadmill.

Hope you understand the question.
Again, no object travels faster than light....
And it's like this....light travels at a finite speed...so nobody or nothing is stationary...light or the light that was once closest to you will meet you...
Or if you're a physics junkie d=s(or c)/t ,
For a certain distance(d), lights speed(c) can travel to you at some future certain time(t)...and since space is linked with time...an object that is let's say spaced by two galaxies is moving 2x as fast away from you...so it can only be seen at a point in time when it was closer and by the time you've seen it....it's moved much further away....
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 2:04pm On May 12, 2015
eddycolo:
I have question for you regarding your comment above.

If objects in space can move faster than light as a result of relativity, how is it we could still see the lights from such objects?
read my post again... I didn't say objects move faster than light(that is impossible)..
I said space itself expands faster than light so by the time you see the light from any object,it's much further than the distance the light comes towards you....
Christianity Etc › Re: Two Facts That Can Never Be Known To Humans by davien(m): 1:24am On May 12, 2015
I've been dead for centuries...a self-fulfilling prophecy..
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m):
eddycolo:
Sure, 13.8- 20 billion years. 20 billion is the maximum I have ever heard. For convenience I used 20 billion.
You are right about the radius of the universe to be 46 billion years. Multiplying 46 by 2, you get about 96 billion years for the diameter of the know universe. Have you ever ask yourself why the universe is 13.8 billion years, and the diameter is 96 billion years?
It's quite simple...the answer is relativity...space between objects can expand faster than the speed of light(no law is broken here as space is not an object, merely a gap between objects)......So objects within the universe could be billions of times apart and yet be younger(sorry,older not younger) than the distance...

And 20 billion used to be the figure till more data was accumulated that drew into account more variables like dark matter/energy etc...

About how the age of the universe was determined, I said they calculated the time it takes light from the furthest galaxies at the edge the universe to reach earth. I didnt mention any bouncing off anything.
It's sill the same thing basically, light has to bounce off whatever you see then hit your photosensitive cells...

I will like to know how you think they came about this age.

Thanks
Hmmmm...I'd like to point out that my thoughts on the process itself is highly irrelevant(seeing that I'm not an authority on the subject)...but from what I've read it's derived from many things like;

The propagation of hydrogen and helium which are the cornerstones for other elements...I.e by fusion reactions and daughter decay processes...

The rate at which the universe is expanding....this is known by the doppler effect...when waves are sent towards a body the closer it gets the more compact it appears and the further it is the less compact it is....since light is a wave and the frequency of light red-shifts when receding,then galaxies red-shifting are moving away from us...

I can only remember these two....right now I can hardly remember them....and the lack of light to charge here sure doesn't help...so make with these till I can hopefully recharge tomorrow...
Culture › Re: 10 Reasons Why Nigeria Is The Best Country In The World by davien(m): 10:30pm On May 11, 2015
Is it the country where you get burned alive if you're accused of stealing,being a witch,etc... shocked
Politics › Re: This Ghanaian Just Finished Nigeria On Instagram by davien(m): 10:18pm On May 11, 2015
Honestly speaking I'm at my village now and they said they've not had light for over 4 months since I last visited and PHCN is demanding #10k from each community for a new transformer.

This is a pity....must I have an additional 3 power-banks to the 3 and two laptop chargers I already have?

The Ghanaian expressed her point well....we seem to tolerate our lack of basic infrastructure like electricity..
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 9:50pm On May 11, 2015
Eddycolo you are wrong in that,the age of the universe is established from astronomy to be 13.8 billion years(ranges to 14) and there is no name attributed to the people that hold this view because it's a scientific proposition...

It's creationists that invented the word "evolutionist" to compound anything they don't agree with(ranging from biology, to geology, to astronomy) ..

Plus the scientific method used to determine that age isn't about how far light bounced off things(although it's part of it) because the visible universe is close to 46 billion light years in radius I.e the radius we can see stuff in the universe...compared to a 13.8 billion year age.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Wicked- We Are Nothing But Spectacle In The Eyes Of The Lord by davien(m): 9:37pm On May 11, 2015
What a sad story.....since you don't acknowledge a god anymore why not work to be successful on your own....

Beliefs don't give results on their own but it's your actions(which beliefs may/may not motivate) that earn results.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Tattoos / Body Piercings? by davien(m): 9:29pm On May 11, 2015
Funny I watched T.B Joshua claim "god" can overlook tattoos....I guess one of these two sources are either right it completely wrong....OLAADEGBU you decide...
Christianity Etc › Are You Smarter Than An Atheist? by davien(op): 8:59pm On May 11, 2015
Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups in a 32-question survey of religious knowledge by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. On average, Americans got 16 of the 32 questions correct. Atheists and agnostics got an average of 20.9 correct answers. Jews (20.5) and Mormons (20.3). Protestants got 16 correct answers on average, while Catholics got 14.7 questions right.

How will you do on the quiz?


http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0105/Are-you-smarter-than-an-atheist-A-religious-quiz/When-does-the-Jewish-Sabbath-begin
Christianity Etc › Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by davien(m): 8:33pm On May 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
There are myths and there are true myths. What's your myth, theory of evolution? smiley
I hardly see a distinction that makes evolution a myth seeing it's a scientific study whereas creationism is a perversion of biblical mythology...
Romance › Re: White Men And Their Effect So Far On Africans (lesbians And Gay) by davien(m): 6:37pm On May 11, 2015
So people weren't gay before the "white men"?...wasn't the bible talking of gay people in regions the "white men" had not yet gone to?...

Think well before opening a topic to bash homosexuals...smh sad
Christianity Etc › Re: Ideas I Once Had About God When I Was A Christian by davien(op): 6:16pm On May 11, 2015
An2elect2:
It is what life will take you through. You don't have to wait per say, life makes you wait and show you what you must see when your time eventually comes.

What a hopeless life man. Sad sad you guys earn my pity.
Thanks for your pity....now extend that emotion to the pity you'd experience seeing 7+ trillion people burning forever while you watch...and then ask yourself who'll be that evil but still pose as good?...except your god...

If god(if such a thing existed) were willing to punish me, knowing the life I've lived and the things i've done for just merely a disbelief then I'd happily take the sentence knowing fully well that I followed the evidence and didn't empty my thinking faculties for such a demented being in the first place...
Christianity Etc › Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by davien(m): 5:45pm On May 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
There's an English Word that we can use in describing the life time of the never dying God, what is it?
Myth
Christianity Etc › Re: Ideas I Once Had About God When I Was A Christian by davien(op): 5:41pm On May 11, 2015
An2elect2:
Since you have rejected the truth and thrown away caution, i think you should wait for the end so you can see things for yourself.
i wasn't waiting for anyone or anything before I was born so what makes you think I would be doing the same after I die?
TV/Movies › Re: Naruto:The Seventh Hokage and The Scarlet Spring(anime/manga)Discussion Thread by davien(m): 4:29pm On May 11, 2015
I think boruto may have the byakugan considering that the weilder of the tenseingan has that sort of light lavender eyes..
Christianity Etc › Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by davien(m): 3:51pm On May 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Is there anything to compare it with?
It's like a sphere with no beginning and end( if we're talking about infinity ) but in Christianity there's a supposed beginning for heaven but no end..so it has nothing to compare it to. ..just blind faith as usual smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Ideas I Once Had About God When I Was A Christian by davien(op): 3:30pm On May 11, 2015
An2elect2:
huhuhuhu time will tell
Enlighten us please...
Christianity Etc › Re: Ideas I Once Had About God When I Was A Christian by davien(op): 3:23pm On May 11, 2015
macof:
One thing I realize is that, a man who thinks lik an Abrahamist(Muslim, Christian) would see the creator as a holy, all doing what is good and best for you God
BUt actually the Creator doesn't give a bleep what you think about it, what you call it or whether you worship it or not
Before you it was, after you it will be

Lesser intelligent animals don't worship like we do (if they worship at all grin)
Yet they share all the joys and horror of nature like we do


We all have what we need to survive, intellect is one - use it and stop thinking the way your pastors and imams program you to think, lik you are some mindless dumb robot
You can't really blame anyone...human beings are very emotional...How best do we lessen our inability to control the events around us if not by some self-perceived "divine power"?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ideas I Once Had About God When I Was A Christian by davien(op): 11:29am On May 11, 2015
emrain:
in the ancient times, people feared what they couldn't understand like déjà vu etc, so men out of curiosity began to find answers to these things that seems strange.
deja vu?... lol, if coincidental occurrences are what you mean then I'd say yes...people did fear the repeated natural occurrences like the rising and setting of the sun.. etcetera so much that people were sacrificed as a means to please and try to make sure the sun,rain,harvest,etc is coming back..

some men where consumed by their own curiosity, while few men found a way to invoke and understand the forces of this world. such men were worshipped and these knowledge continued to grow until the emergence of science.
How did they "invoke and understand the forces of this world" let alone had the knowledge that such a thing is possible?

PS, don't ask me how they found out how they understood nature. unless you want to tell me how men learned that suya is sweeter than raw meat.
Ofcourse I can ask how they did....you're the one claiming it as a fact....
And your analogy doesn't follow....meat being sweet is purely preference...some cultures still prefer raw meat...the advent of fire only made most people welcome "warm or hot food" that was chewy and easier to digest...
Christianity Etc › Re: Ideas I Once Had About God When I Was A Christian by davien(op): 8:43am On May 11, 2015
emrain:
these things exist, but practice makes perfect.

these are natural things we can learn and unlearn at any given time. it's not a power from devil or god, it's something we created by ourselves just as God and Allah.
when and how did we create them?....then how did we know such things could be done or how did we get the idea that such a thing was possible...

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