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ayoelegs:I'm not offended....you seem to think you have a more accurate knowledge....so why not tell us what "god" would do....answer the call for retribution or ignore them... |
nelsonoba:Spare me the proselytizing, the question is a simple one... He killed a lot of lives and by your mythology sent them to heaven/hell... According to revelation those slain unjustly continue to cry out to "god" for retribution... Now that he has repented of his wrong doings what becomes of those allegedly in heaven begging "god" for retribution in heaven? ![]() Would they be silenced or answered?...would it be just for your supposed just "god" to refuse them of justice? |
lestat:For your information young man.....karma is not justice....you may like how it sounds that actions in previous lives bear consequences in "the next",but that isn't justice in the sense that in the concept of karma a whole new person is faulted for a supposed previous offense and whatever state one finds him/herself in is his/her karma... ...so in essence the state of going about free for the pastor is and always has been his supposed "karma".... ![]() Note : I don't believe in the concept of karma |
sportsmaster:Funny,I don't remember reading about Moses talking anything but a known dialect to "god" that it also understood and replied back....so why the misdirect to all of you today? And the link below is another "interpretation" of the verse that goes against your claim of "nobody could understand speaking in tongues"...from fellow Christians.. https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/692-what-are-the-so-called-mystery-tongues-of-1-corinthians-14 They wager that upon reading to verse 27 it becomes clear that the reason it isn't understood is because it is being misused...that it could not be understood because there is no interpreter... 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the most three--should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret So do you have an interpreter for your speaking in tongues? ![]() |
write2obi:Funny enough I'd rather shake my head for you. My reply encompassed it and yet you couldn't comprehend it....I blame the Nigerian educational system. ![]() |
Sportsmaster has anyone of a different dialect understood your "speaking in tongues"... |
write2obi:Trust isn't faith in action, that's a lie.....you can't have a proven track record for that which is unproven or hoped for... |
tchidi:According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution? Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only.... Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just? |
BraveGuy:Fundamentally I know the type of person I'm dealing with here...could you answer these very short questions...; What is evolution? How does evolution work? Is evolution concerned with how life began? And lastly could anyone with objective evidence need or derive any form of "existential truth" from it? |
elantraceey:Good point....on that account...Christianity was spotted by oral tradition for a great number of years...and as you and I know(apparent by your reply) whatever information that was passed across would be prone to interpolation and misinterpretation... |
elantraceey:If that were true then Christianity wouldn't have 40,000+ denominations all based on the bible.... |
OLAADEGBU: davien: |
elantraceey:Did I claim all theists are Christians? It depends on your definition of 'sin' .Okay then...under any definition of "sin",is doubt included? Na I didn't pick my own standard , I only gave the Bible/God's standard .The bible doesn't speak for itself,it's interpreted by the reader and thus open to any form of interpretation of which yours is a christian can't be an atheist... |
Lol....I clicked that link only to go to the usual apologetic of "X professor dumbfounded by Christian" and straw-men derived from misunderstanding of science in general.....I guess these are the tactics of trying to make a "fool" out of a position that's logical.. Normally I'd write an entire page to refute every single word but I've seen that this is a copy-paste job....and I've addressed these blatant lies so many times(from Einstein being a theist to evolalbert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897 ..,so I'd just link my responses here based on what I've seen so far.. davien:www.nairaland.com/2087771/albert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897 DProDG:. www.nairaland.com/2203280/dont-enough-faith-atheist/15#31803808 davien:.......www.nairaland.com/2067183/atheists-stupidity/8#33849714 |
davien: |
Let's see what belief in god/gods gets us; Violence Family segregation Chastising other denominations Mind control and political control Prejudices on who to marry Prejudices on behaviour and sexual orientation Child abuse based on what you believe a child should always do in respect to religion I.e go to church,pray,etc (I.e failure to do those things result in often cruel punishments ) Hatred or stigma against people who doubt or question your line of thinking... Extraordinary lengths to prove faith by performing acts like self-harm,drinking poison,piercing your body parts or abstinence from food for harmful amounts of time... Retards scientific progress... |
elantraceey:whichever way you put it it doesn't matter because to you a "christian" couldn't possibly be an theist which is even fallacious by your own theology(seeing that doubt is a sin,so does that mean no christian doubts/sin? )If a christian can sin and doubt is a sin then by logical deduction Christians can be Atheists.... As for the latter nope I'm not, I'm just a Christian who loves God because he first loved me and all this things doesn't matter to me.On the contrary you are....you've picked your own set of standards by which you think someone called a "Christian" should follow or be like... You're argument is akin to "no true Muslim/Christian can do or be A/B" |
I was a church worker(a very actively preaching one) with both my parents being deacons....so does that mean I wasn't a "christian" to you? ![]() In any case you're argument is purely based on your personal subjective view of who or what you think a "christian" should be like(something not all Christians agree on).... You're among the; A Christian can't drink,steal,lie,kill,fornicate or do any bad/terrible thing,of which I and others are very aware that you("Christians". ) do. ... |
koyyes:Funny enough I'm sure you also would be picky....as we've seen you have a distinction for atheists and pagans....so would you marry anyone of them? |
Escaping taxes is a criminal offence and he rightly paid for it...I hope he has learnt his lesson... |
Zealotry my dear Watson....it's zealotry...how best could you take control of a nation unless you were the chosen lot of "god"? |
Baddestguyp:American server.. I'm Elven race by the way...although I may not be able to quickly accept your request being on edge at the moment... |
Baddestguyp:I have order and chaos online...username ; Davien Level 49 Fire mage... I also have Batman the dark knight rises...The amazing Spider-Man 2....Six guns...injustice gods among us....dead space...and lastly galaxy on fire 2 HD |
S6390380:Has this answered your question? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1cNaFG1VII |
Olaryinkah:google YIFI MOVIES and GANOOL.. |
Another fear mongering theist afraid of new technologies....I guess you skipped the post where they said for medical uses... |
Next thing you know the man on the wheelchair turns out to be the reverse flash... You can always count on TB to remind you of your favorite shows... It's funny how Christians leap at any opportunity to call anything done by their fellow elk a "miracle" but hiss when presented with other religions "miracles"....talk about a double standard.. |
Eddycolo for some weird reason I can't click your post, but anyway your tactic is purely dishonest.... Let's examine it fully Rather, I have been trying to make you think outside the box but you are strongly bonded to it.This was your claim above, and my reply below There's no outside the box here unless you're not accustomed to physicsThen you went on to say this.... Actually it is people like you that read one or two physics article that dont think outside the box regarding any information you'd get from the articles. Great discoveries are made by scientist that dont think like everyone else. Infact, science is about thinking outside the box, thats how new and exciting things get discovered. So dont tell me physicists or scientist dont think outside the box.Now when did I claim "scientists don't think outside the box" as compared to "There's no outside the box here"? ![]() You built a straw man out of my response... And concerning the multiverse as your tongue in cheek explanation,you've not given sufficient ways how one could peer into another supposed universe nor if the configurations of that universe would allow you to peek into it if there's any atall...hence another nonsensical question. Your question lies on assumptions that aren't even close to be proven... #1 multiverse with same configurations... #2 Other universe would house an observer.. #3 Observer could peer into our universe Without answers to those questions you have a null question....... Lastly the assumptions scientists make are called hypotheses, and they aren't made without a way to either test or screen for.....and when it can't be screened thoroughly it remains a hypothesis... |
eddycolo:After a brief look,i found out that you're a creationist so I'm not surprised that you wanted to spend all day trying to pervert well established science..... |
eddycolo:Sure I didn't, just like I didn't explain all over today what relativity is....again, poor comprehension skills.... Actually it is people like you that read one or two physics article that dont think outside the box regarding any information you'd get from the articles. Great discoveries are made by scientist that dont think like everyone else. Infact, science is about thinking outside the box, thats how new and exciting things get discovered. So dont tell me physicists or scientist dont think outside the box.look who's accusing me of equivocating....when did I tell you scientists don't think outside the box? Wasn't your reasoning based on relativity concerning galaxies inwhich I pointed out(posted below) that how can an observer be outside it? davien:^^^ You always use the word mundane. Could you please explain to me the sense in which you use this word?Grab a dictionary...maybe you'll learn something new. .I'm referring to the dull and ordinary reasoning you're using when it comes to physics,I even went in detail(quoted below) that is the problem with you...you want to impose mundane reasoning to physics which is the worst thing one could do in the study...^^^^ Remember that I said earlier that you are always equivocating to avoid answering my simple question. How does motion and point of reference fall into the question you were trying to answer.Perspective....again I am shocked at your comprehension skills and would strongly recommend that childrens book for you to read up on.... And mind you,analogies aren't equivocations....apparently you also lack that comprehension... Back to the answer...I used your own line of logic. Your answers are so beside the point. Even in this question you trying to answer I said "both objects" that means two things. Did I say something is moving without a perspective?You can say forty objects and it still would be a nonsensical question, because you are talking about motion and more specifically relativity but you want to ignore the perspective of each observer.... That is called reasoning. What you fail to understand is that thats just an assumption. I wish I can continue this conversation in am open minded atmosphere, and with reasons that can lead to logical conclusions. I have to end here.when making an assumption it has to be an educated one, not one that doesn't follow or is based on faulty reasoning.. ![]() |
eddycolo:Hmmmm Of course, I don't have a problem comprehending the above points.Are you sure? ![]() Rather, I have been trying to make you think outside the box but you are strongly bonded to it.There's no outside the box here unless you're not accustomed to physics... On the moving car example that we are using. You said we cant impose one observer's perspective over another. Which might be true, but thats not the point.It is a point....that is the problem with you...you want to impose mundane reasoning to physics which is the worst thing one could do in the study... The point we want to establish is whether both objects are actually moving not based on what a moving or stationary observer thinks or feel about another moving or stationary observer. Ok.How can you know something is moving without a perspective? In all forms of motion I.e ; Oscillatory motion Linear motion...etc A perspective is always established otherwise you're talking nonsense... Let's throw in a third observer. Lets assume this third observer is outside our experiment. Looking at two galaxies this observer will be able to tell that they are both receding from each other.How can the "observer" be outside the "experiment"(which is the universe).... ![]() Trying to throw in your favorite character are you? ![]() And if the light wave can shift to the red side of the spectrum from an observer's point of view when the observer is "moving away" from the light source. Could you tell me why I should not conclude that the observer is the one moving away from a literally stationary light source.Because it's akin to looking at the sun, moon, and stars then concluding from mundane reasoning that the earth is stationary and everything moves around the earth... ![]() This is why I keep asking if you have comprehension problems........ |
You mean the scamming cult.......lol ![]() |
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