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Christianity Etc › Re: Shina Rambo, Notorious Armed Robber Turned Pastor, Hosts Crusade (photos) by davien(m): 8:16pm On May 19, 2015
ayoelegs:
Your knowledge of the nature of God and His redemption is definitely shallow...no offence please
I'm not offended....you seem to think you have a more accurate knowledge....so why not tell us what "god" would do....answer the call for retribution or ignore them...
Christianity Etc › Re: Shina Rambo, Notorious Armed Robber Turned Pastor, Hosts Crusade (photos) by davien(m): 7:49pm On May 19, 2015
nelsonoba:
Let's pretend you've never read about the story of Apostle Paul in the bible, a man who was so notorious for jailing and killing innocent christians until he had an encounter with Jesus Christ while on his way to Damascus to persecute the christians there.

This same man repented and turned away from his sins and later became the greatest Apostle we know of today. He was used by God to do a lot of great things that even people like Apostles Peter and John who were with Jesus as his disciples didn't even accomplish.

Moral: God does not run a democracy where popular opinions determine what is 'right' or not. God killed His own beloved son Jesus on the cross for just one reason - so that sinners can identify with the punishment/death of Jesus and be saved.

The punishment/payment for Shina Rambo's sins have already been taken by Jesus Christ when he died on the cross for all who will choose to believe in Him, and that is why IT WILL BE A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE FOR GOD TO REFUSE TO FORGIVE HIM THE DAY HE REPENTED AND ASKED FOR FORGIVENESS.

God is a just God, and He will not demand double payment for an offence. Jesus paid for our sins, and that is the ONLY REASON why we don't have to pay for them again IF WE GENUINELY REPENT AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.

If a man refuses to accept the payment made on his behalf by Jesus Christ on the cross, then that person has to pay for his own sins by himself......and the ultimate place to pay for your sins is in Hell. The sad thing is that if you choose to pay for your sins by yourself in hell, you can never finish paying for it, that is why Jesus said the fire in hell never goes out and those who go there are damned forever.

The choice is simple; take the easy path by accepting Jesus' payment on your behalf, or pay for your sins by yourself. I know Shina Rambo took the easy path.
Spare me the proselytizing, the question is a simple one...
He killed a lot of lives and by your mythology sent them to heaven/hell...
According to revelation those slain unjustly continue to cry out to "god" for retribution...
Now that he has repented of his wrong doings what becomes of those allegedly in heaven begging "god" for retribution in heaven? huh

Would they be silenced or answered?...would it be just for your supposed just "god" to refuse them of justice?
Christianity Etc › Re: Shina Rambo, Notorious Armed Robber Turned Pastor, Hosts Crusade (photos) by davien(m): 7:41pm On May 19, 2015
lestat:
My dear Nigerians wish not to think that they must pay for their crimes, spiritual and physical.
Hence why any talk of the laws of karma is met with stuff resistance.

The Lord in his infinite wisdom has created the laws so perfectly that for every word, thought and action they must return to their point of origin for the circle to.close.
jumping on Sunday screaming jesus is my lord and saviour won't set you free.

Pastor Shina rambling must experience in full the effects of his actions in this life or the next so that he may mature spiritually and recognise the hurt he caused others.

Depending on his spiritual state when the returning karma reaches him his penance might be less sever than his original crimes
For your information young man.....karma is not justice....you may like how it sounds that actions in previous lives bear consequences in "the next",but that isn't justice in the sense that in the concept of karma a whole new person is faulted for a supposed previous offense and whatever state one finds him/herself in is his/her karma... ...so in essence the state of going about free for the pastor is and always has been his supposed "karma".... undecided

Note : I don't believe in the concept of karma
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m): 8:26am On May 19, 2015
sportsmaster:
1cor14:2:-" if any man speaks in tongues,he speaks NOT UNTO MEN but UNTO GOD for NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM,howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."
Funny,I don't remember reading about Moses talking anything but a known dialect to "god" that it also understood and replied back....so why the misdirect to all of you today?

And the link below is another "interpretation" of the verse that goes against your claim of "nobody could understand speaking in tongues"...from fellow Christians..
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/692-what-are-the-so-called-mystery-tongues-of-1-corinthians-14

They wager that upon reading to verse 27 it becomes clear that the reason it isn't understood is because it is being misused...that it could not be understood because there is no interpreter...
27
If anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the most three--should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret


So do you have an interpreter for your speaking in tongues? huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Trust And Faith - Aren't They The Same Thing? by davien(m): 8:12am On May 19, 2015
write2obi:
you are yet to give us your own definition yet you are countering mine undecided *smh for some peeps*
Funny enough I'd rather shake my head for you.
My reply encompassed it and yet you couldn't comprehend it....I blame the Nigerian educational system. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m): 8:10am On May 19, 2015
Sportsmaster has anyone of a different dialect understood your "speaking in tongues"...
Christianity Etc › Re: Trust And Faith - Aren't They The Same Thing? by davien(m): 8:03am On May 19, 2015
write2obi:
Nop they are not
Trust: is as a result of a proven track record
Faith: is the substance of things hoped for

Trust is faith in action! It is the manifestation of our faith in our thoughts and actions.
While faith says "He can...", trust says "He is... and I will think and act accordingly!"
Trust isn't faith in action, that's a lie.....you can't have a proven track record for that which is unproven or hoped for...
Christianity Etc › Re: Shina Rambo, Notorious Armed Robber Turned Pastor, Hosts Crusade (photos) by davien(m): 11:58pm On May 18, 2015
tchidi:
You see, a witch can kill you and later repent and make heaven! undecided embarassed
Imagine all the lives this man has cut short, but our merciful God still forgave him.
God, you de try o! embarassed embarassed
According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution?

Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only....

Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just?
Christianity Etc › Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by davien(m): 4:20pm On May 18, 2015
BraveGuy:
NONE of your links shows or proves evolution to be true.

Let me ask you a very simple question.

[size=14pt]Can you prove the EXISTENTIAL truth of those animals you are sending links to, scientifically?[/size]

I am waiting to read your body of evidence, if you have ANY!
Fundamentally I know the type of person I'm dealing with here...could you answer these very short questions...;
What is evolution?
How does evolution work?
Is evolution concerned with how life began?
And lastly could anyone with objective evidence need or derive any form of "existential truth" from it?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m): 4:12pm On May 18, 2015
elantraceey:
If we both attend a birthday party and we're told to give retell what the opening speaker said, are we going to say it the same way?
Good point....on that account...Christianity was spotted by oral tradition for a great number of years...and as you and I know(apparent by your reply) whatever information that was passed across would be prone to interpolation and misinterpretation...
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m): 3:52pm On May 18, 2015
elantraceey:
To the best and my knowledge nope.


The bible speaks for itself , it has its own voice which is the holy spirit.
If that were true then Christianity wouldn't have 40,000+ denominations all based on the bible....
Christianity Etc › Re: Government Drops Remaining Charges Against Evolutionary Foe Kent Hovind by davien(m): 10:43am On May 18, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
True. That's the way they treat people who are a threat to their Government, they charge them falsely on tax evasion.
davien:
" Advocate of Young Earth creationism, convicted of
tax-related crimes"

"and 1991 respectively, Hovind was awarded a master's
degree and doctorate in Christian Education through correspondence
from the non-accredited Patriot University in Colorado Springs ,
Colorado (now Patriot Bible University in Del Norte, Colorado, which
no longer offers this program). Having a website called "Dr. Dino"
has provoked some academics to look closely at how Hovind
presents his education and credentials. Barbara Forrest , a professor
of philosophy, expert on the history of creationism and activist in the
creation-evolution controversy, wrote that Hovind's lack of academic
training makes it impossible to engage him on a professional level."


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m): 10:26am On May 18, 2015
elantraceey:
Not all theist are Christians because someone could believe God exists but don't worship him .
Did I claim all theists are Christians?
It depends on your definition of 'sin' .
Okay then...under any definition of "sin",is doubt included?

Na I didn't pick my own standard , I only gave the Bible/God's standard .
The bible doesn't speak for itself,it's interpreted by the reader and thus open to any form of interpretation of which yours is a christian can't be an atheist...
Christianity Etc › Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by davien(m): 10:21am On May 18, 2015
Lol....I clicked that link only to go to the usual apologetic of "X professor dumbfounded by Christian" and straw-men derived from misunderstanding of science in general.....I guess these are the tactics of trying to make a "fool" out of a position that's logical..
Normally I'd write an entire page to refute every single word but I've seen that this is a copy-paste job....and I've addressed these blatant lies so many times(from Einstein being a theist to evolalbert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897
..,so I'd just link my responses here based on what I've seen so far..

davien:
you christians like twisting terms "naive" means gullible and in case you didn't know einstein didn't believe in a "god" and he has long stated that the belief in such a "god" is childish
"The word god is for me nothing more
than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the
Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends
which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no
matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/may/12/peopleinscience.religion
www.nairaland.com/2087771/albert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897


DProDG:
First, evolution is not synonymous with atheism.

Second, what your bible tells you is your business. Assuming it's science makes you a laughing stock.

Third, as I've said previously, address what is said and not whether it's plagiarized or not. If you think that laymen cannot 'know stuff' and have to copy off the internet, how is that then important? Are we here to come off as smart or to address opposing views?

Forth, it should be obvious that I'm not arguing theology because it's subjective and it will be stup1d to argue off faith.

Fifth, you keep bringing up you personal experiences as if we're slightly interested.

...Study hard? I cited a few MOOCs and then a couple of YouTube videos which you discredited for...reasons.
. www.nairaland.com/2203280/dont-enough-faith-atheist/15#31803808

davien:
Anything that goes against your fairy tales are ofcourse to you a "lie" so I'm not surprised....
You couldn't think of anything else having admitted common descent....
I'm guessing these sources lie too...and I didn't know fossils lied too..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casineria
http://arrow.latrobe.edu.au:8080/vital/access/manager/Repository/latrobe:19649
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edaphosauridae
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14772019.2011.631042
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseidae
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinocephalia
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12052-009-0117-4
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristerognathus
http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/predinosaurreptiles/p/pristerognathus.htm
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynognathus
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7998.1971.tb02189.x/abstract;jsessionid=4CD43ED5C7DE31A9CF6C32A26169B1E0.f02t01
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multituberculata
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1475-4983.00185/abstract
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiadapis
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v498/n7452/full/nature12200.html
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002%2Fajpa.1330890409
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proconsul_(primate)
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016%2F0047-2484(87)90062-5
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.1330340205/abstract
.......www.nairaland.com/2067183/atheists-stupidity/8#33849714
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 10:19am On May 18, 2015
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Believe God Is Real? by davien(m): 8:22am On May 18, 2015
Let's see what belief in god/gods gets us;

Violence
Family segregation
Chastising other denominations
Mind control and political control
Prejudices on who to marry
Prejudices on behaviour and sexual orientation
Child abuse based on what you believe a child should always do in respect to religion I.e go to church,pray,etc (I.e failure to do those things result in often cruel punishments )
Hatred or stigma against people who doubt or question your line of thinking...
Extraordinary lengths to prove faith by performing acts like self-harm,drinking poison,piercing your body parts or abstinence from food for harmful amounts of time...
Retards scientific progress...
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m):
elantraceey:
Don't mistake walking for God with working with God they're different , Real Christians walk with God and not just for him, his not interested in your service as much as he is interested in fellowship.
whichever way you put it it doesn't matter because to you a "christian" couldn't possibly be an theist which is even fallacious by your own theology(seeing that doubt is a sin,so does that mean no christian doubts/sin? undecided )

If a christian can sin and doubt is a sin then by logical deduction Christians can be Atheists....

As for the latter nope I'm not, I'm just a Christian who loves God because he first loved me and all this things doesn't matter to me.
On the contrary you are....you've picked your own set of standards by which you think someone called a "Christian" should follow or be like...

You're argument is akin to "no true Muslim/Christian can do or be A/B"
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Become An Atheist ? by davien(m): 12:55am On May 18, 2015
I was a church worker(a very actively preaching one) with both my parents being deacons....so does that mean I wasn't a "christian" to you? undecided
In any case you're argument is purely based on your personal subjective view of who or what you think a "christian" should be like(something not all Christians agree on)....


You're among the;
A Christian can't drink,steal,lie,kill,fornicate or do any bad/terrible thing,of which I and others are very aware that you("Christians". ) do.
...
Christianity Etc › Re: This Madness On Marriage Has Got To Stop In The Church. by davien(m): 3:34pm On May 17, 2015
koyyes:
This thread reeks of anger,ignorance and hatred. These are the same people who are supposed to be christ like in all their dealings. imagine a so called christian calling women of a certain age 'old cargoes'.Why on earth wouldn't christianity be divided? Really, what do your so called pastors teach you? What do you learn in your church? is it how to come to NL and speak ill of certain denominations so that atheists, pagans and people from other religions will join forces with you to bash them left and right simply because they have preferenceshuh? Op, have you asked any member of the denomination you've accused of the reason(s) behind their 'stand'? It's not about reduction in church membership or selfishness on the part of the pastors like some people have said. Infact, the people you accuse do not crave for membership growth or marriage They have other priorities in life. If you understand what marriage entails especially for true christians and not all these 'dust bible,go to church,clap hand and life continues kind of christians' , you wouldn't have created this thread in the first place.
Funny enough I'm sure you also would be picky....as we've seen you have a distinction for atheists and pagans....so would you marry anyone of them?
Christianity Etc › Re: Government Drops Remaining Charges Against Evolutionary Foe Kent Hovind by davien(m): 3:22pm On May 17, 2015
Escaping taxes is a criminal offence and he rightly paid for it...I hope he has learnt his lesson...
Christianity Etc › Re: Shocking thoughts By One Who Completely Read The Bible by davien(m): 4:42pm On May 16, 2015
Zealotry my dear Watson....it's zealotry...how best could you take control of a nation unless you were the chosen lot of "god"?
Gaming › Re: Online Gamers Android Only by davien(m): 12:59pm On May 16, 2015
Baddestguyp:
I also play order and chaos username: Erenjps level 19 warrior, I'll send you a request. what server are you in
American server..
I'm Elven race by the way...although I may not be able to quickly accept your request being on edge at the moment...
Gaming › Re: Online Gamers Android Only by davien(m): 11:57am On May 16, 2015
Baddestguyp:
thanks. I wanna focus on my defense now. I have to build walls
I have order and chaos online...username ; Davien Level 49 Fire mage...
I also have Batman the dark knight rises...The amazing Spider-Man 2....Six guns...injustice gods among us....dead space...and lastly galaxy on fire 2 HD
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain This Religion Theory To Me I Am Taking This Course In Summer by davien(m): 10:40am On May 16, 2015
S6390380:
If the world is not in charge of the world , then the outcome of events is somewhat elastic, we cab influence the outcome by appealing to higher powers
Has this answered your question?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1cNaFG1VII
Science/Technology › Re: Where Can I Download Highly Compressed Movies by davien(m): 9:50am On May 16, 2015
Olaryinkah:
please help..where can i download highly compressed hd movies
google YIFI MOVIES and GANOOL..
Christianity Etc › Re: Check Out This CNN Report On Mark Of The Beast!! by davien(m): 11:41pm On May 15, 2015
Another fear mongering theist afraid of new technologies....I guess you skipped the post where they said for medical uses...
Christianity Etc › Re: T.B Joshua Heals Crippled Man At Mexican Crusade (Photos) by davien(m): 11:29pm On May 15, 2015
Next thing you know the man on the wheelchair turns out to be the reverse flash... You can always count on TB to remind you of your favorite shows...

It's funny how Christians leap at any opportunity to call anything done by their fellow elk a "miracle" but hiss when presented with other religions "miracles"....talk about a double standard..
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 1:53am On May 14, 2015
Eddycolo for some weird reason I can't click your post, but anyway your tactic is purely dishonest....
Let's examine it fully
Rather, I have been trying to make you think outside the box but you are strongly bonded to it.
This was your claim above, and my reply below
There's no outside the box here unless you're not accustomed to physics
Then you went on to say this....
Actually it is people like you that read one or two physics article that dont think outside the box regarding any information you'd get from the articles. Great discoveries are made by scientist that dont think like everyone else. Infact, science is about thinking outside the box, thats how new and exciting things get discovered. So dont tell me physicists or scientist dont think outside the box.
Now when did I claim "scientists don't think outside the box" as compared to "There's no outside the box here"? undecided
You built a straw man out of my response...

And concerning the multiverse as your tongue in cheek explanation,you've not given sufficient ways how one could peer into another supposed universe nor if the configurations of that universe would allow you to peek into it if there's any atall...hence another nonsensical question.

Your question lies on assumptions that aren't even close to be proven...

#1 multiverse with same configurations...
#2 Other universe would house an observer..
#3 Observer could peer into our universe

Without answers to those questions you have a null question.......

Lastly the assumptions scientists make are called hypotheses, and they aren't made without a way to either test or screen for.....and when it can't be screened thoroughly it remains a hypothesis...
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 12:07am On May 14, 2015
eddycolo:
I believe God created the universe 6-7 thousand years ago.
After a brief look,i found out that you're a creationist so I'm not surprised that you wanted to spend all day trying to pervert well established science.....
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m): 12:00am On May 14, 2015
eddycolo:
Am very sure mate. Am incline to think you are actually the one equivocating in an effort to avoid answering the question. Hope you noticed you didnt answer any of the questions.
Sure I didn't, just like I didn't explain all over today what relativity is....again, poor comprehension skills....



Actually it is people like you that read one or two physics article that dont think outside the box regarding any information you'd get from the articles. Great discoveries are made by scientist that dont think like everyone else. Infact, science is about thinking outside the box, thats how new and exciting things get discovered. So dont tell me physicists or scientist dont think outside the box.
look who's accusing me of equivocating....when did I tell you scientists don't think outside the box?
Wasn't your reasoning based on relativity concerning galaxies inwhich I pointed out(posted below) that how can an observer be outside it?
davien:
How can the "observer" be outside the "experiment"(which is the universe).... huh
^^^

You always use the word mundane. Could you please explain to me the sense in which you use this word?
Grab a dictionary...maybe you'll learn something new. .I'm referring to the dull and ordinary reasoning you're using when it comes to physics,I even went in detail(quoted below)
that is the problem with you...you want to impose mundane reasoning to physics which is the worst thing one could do in the study...
^^^^


Remember that I said earlier that you are always equivocating to avoid answering my simple question. How does motion and point of reference fall into the question you were trying to answer.
Perspective....again I am shocked at your comprehension skills and would strongly recommend that childrens book for you to read up on....
And mind you,analogies aren't equivocations....apparently you also lack that comprehension...
Back to the answer...I used your own line of logic.

Your answers are so beside the point. Even in this question you trying to answer I said "both objects" that means two things. Did I say something is moving without a perspective?
You can say forty objects and it still would be a nonsensical question, because you are talking about motion and more specifically relativity but you want to ignore the perspective of each observer....


That is called reasoning. What you fail to understand is that thats just an assumption. I wish I can continue this conversation in am open minded atmosphere, and with reasons that can lead to logical conclusions. I have to end here.
when making an assumption it has to be an educated one, not one that doesn't follow or is based on faulty reasoning.. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Review Of The "10 Things The Bible Never Said About Creation" By Kingebukasblog by davien(m):
eddycolo:
Forgive me for I am not able to segregate your response and give my response on each point you have made. I dont know how to. So am going to address all points below.
Hmmmm
Of course, I don't have a problem comprehending the above points.
Are you sure? undecided

Rather, I have been trying to make you think outside the box but you are strongly bonded to it.
There's no outside the box here unless you're not accustomed to physics...
On the moving car example that we are using. You said we cant impose one observer's perspective over another. Which might be true, but thats not the point.
It is a point....that is the problem with you...you want to impose mundane reasoning to physics which is the worst thing one could do in the study...

The point we want to establish is whether both objects are actually moving not based on what a moving or stationary observer thinks or feel about another moving or stationary observer. Ok.
How can you know something is moving without a perspective? In all forms of motion I.e ;
Oscillatory motion
Linear motion...etc
A perspective is always established otherwise you're talking nonsense...

Let's throw in a third observer. Lets assume this third observer is outside our experiment. Looking at two galaxies this observer will be able to tell that they are both receding from each other.
How can the "observer" be outside the "experiment"(which is the universe).... huh
Trying to throw in your favorite character are you? grin
And if the light wave can shift to the red side of the spectrum from an observer's point of view when the observer is "moving away" from the light source. Could you tell me why I should not conclude that the observer is the one moving away from a literally stationary light source.
Because it's akin to looking at the sun, moon, and stars then concluding from mundane reasoning that the earth is stationary and everything moves around the earth... undecided
This is why I keep asking if you have comprehension problems........
Christianity Etc › Re: @ by davien(m): 5:13pm On May 13, 2015
You mean the scamming cult.......lol grin

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