₦airaland Forum

iwanchop: Where is [size=18pt]Annie Okonkwo, Niyi Adebayo,Osita Izunazo,Tom Ikimi, Anyim Nyerere[/size] etc. Ain't they all Christians? Aren't the part of the excos?

Op Question for you

X-factoria:
Who cares? Seriously?

We are battling Boko Haram and you are asking who cares about a supposedly Islamist party? Go have your head checked!

Nigeria is not the only country where religion influences people's decision at the polls. Check Egypt, Libya, Germany and even the United States (John Kerry lost to Bush in 2004 principally because of his stance on Homosexualism and abortion. Many orthodox Christians sent sympathy votes the way of Bush. Just recently, some Americans did not vote Romney because he is Mormon). Religion is a big issue please!

Yet the same Amricans voted for Obama who was Pro GAY marriage and pro abortion

edoyad: Unfortunately your donkey perception has failed you once again. At the time Bayern beat Barca, na who be defending la liga Champions? Olodo

Na where you no get sense.

At the time we beat Barca they were the strongest La Liga side would it make sense to e celebrating beating the defending champions who might be having different form in the current season

Policewoman: Hahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!!

We fit dey halp each other o. Askari Madam or how you think am?

Policewoman: This boy, even if you FART, you must call GEJ name. Shuoo!!!!!

Are you having fantasy over my fart now?

Retardeen Jonathan does not give a damn even if his Godfathers are the fathers of corruption

Don't worry na PDP things

Has anyone found out if this wasnt an error from INEC?

chukwudi44: IBB and Abudulsalami middle belt indeed!!

Unless you dont know your Nigerian Geography

IBB is Nupe which is one of the minority tribe in the North Central

Meritbaba: What is democracy in primary election, a situation where only the rich would have chance leaving credible poor candidate behind after they have bribe the excos who would be voting with money and bags of rice, as long as they don't violate any rule given by INEC they are still democrat for all i care

Well said.

If it was left to the so called Nigerian internal democracy would Fashola even make top 50 of the contestants?

edoyad: Aren't teams who lose 2-0 to Arsenal in their so called fortress stadiums and end up winning the UCL opportunists?

ANy team who win quarter finals and semi finals vs Champions of Italy and Spain by 11-0 aggregates cant be called opportunist

Unless you are using GAYYner daft logic

Katsumoto: And I agree with all that but folks must continue to hold their leaders in high expectations. Defeating PDP is not the end. Selection and imposition of candidates must stop, especially when they are family members.

WHy change the process that gave the SW the best Administrators since Awo days? (over 30yrs)

Katsumoto: Anyway Dayo, we will continue later. It's friday night and I need to go and find my potential baby mamas.

Thats why you should support Tinubu so ACN can take care of those babies

Even you sef, Just today Fashola commisioned an Old peoples home. Katz, ACN is already planning for your future home

LOL

I dey comot jare see you later

Ola one:

he knows how the troops commanded by Adekunle ran riot. The entire story. He wasn't even born. This is hilarious. 3AM. I NO FIT SLEEP SEF

We had him Kats. We did

Adekunle is my townsman and everyone knows First republic politics was more ineteresting and had more pulications than the 2nd repulic

Katsumoto: If you don't know the ideology of the ACN, what then is the draw for you? Why do you defend everything Tinubu does? I know you are not a political jobber.

I dont follow whats written I see what they do thats why I camped with the ACN and with Tinubu

I see Tinubu imposition giving us Fashola as against Obanikoro internal democracy candidate

I see Tinubu imposition giving us Ajimobi as against Alao Akala Internal democracy candidate

I see Tinubu imposition giving us Fayemi as against Fayose of Internal democracy

I see Tinubu imposition giving us Aregbesola as against Oyinlola/Omisore internal democracy candidate

And in every of the instance the Tinubu hand picked candidates turned out to be way better than the alternatives

So I learned to trust Tinubu

In this part of the world its foolish to follow party ideologies cos they are all sweet sounding and the same (Infact Ige composed the constitution of PDP, ANPP and AD)

The bible says by their fruit we shall know them By the fruits of Tinubus imposition I have seen, trust them and I am proud of them as against what we get from Internal democracy of others

Katsumoto: But you weren't around in the 1st republic as well but you can hold your own in a debate about the 1st republic.

I read about the First republic and a lot of what I know I read up recently

E.g I used to hear NCNC members cross carpeted to AG to deny Zik an opportunity to rule, Until I read your post about what really transpired

Katsumoto: Tinubu was the only AD governor after 2003 Dayo. What other AD governors were there?

You said Tinubu betrayed Afenifere leaders when did this happen? In 2003?

Tinubu left AD in 2006.

Katsumoto: No, that is a cop out.

I want you to state what the political ideology of the ACN is and then describe it. Please in the next 2 minutes. No need going to read it up now.

2 minutes is this a quiz competition?

I never claimed to know it off the top of my head, Infact I dont know the ideology of any political party off the top of my head.

I have posted links to their manifesto which is elaborate enough

Ola one: Please answer. I expect yes or no to suffice. Thanks

I dont know, I didnt follow the electoral process of the UPN in those years as I was too young But I saw how prominent followers of Awolowo did in 1999

People Like Adesanya, Adebanjo, Ige Akande Adefarati etc

Ola one: Is your party all about education? I can only see education here

Did you open the link?

Katsumoto: But Tinubu had already betrayed Adesanya and other AD leaders including Osoba when he pulled the only state (Lagos) they (AD) had out of AD and formed his own party. Or have you forgotten that?

Tinubu won the 2003 election under the AD flag and only formed AC towards the end of his tenure when he saw other AD leaders were bending to OBJ and basically proxies of the PDP in the SW

Katsumoto: Please what is Tinubu's (ACN) political ideology? State what it is and then describe it.

Its here

http://actioncongressnigeria.org/manifesto/

I cant copy everything and paste here

Below

The Education programme of the government of our party has the following objectives:

To make every citizen literate and able to communicate in major world languages as well as in their mother tongue
To train citizens in science, engineering, finance, management and information and communication technology who will lead the nation’s drive for prosperity and economic development and who will have a deep understanding of and solution to the nation’s problems.
To substantially raise the income of Nigerians and create a middle class for the development of the economy.
To train citizens to learn, to inquire and to develop increased foresight and accuracy and a readiness to try new methods and techniques
To train the various levels of manpower needed to transform the nation.

Katsumoto: You mean Adesanya was dead when Tinubu outsmarted all those old folks in AD?

When Tinubu recaptured the SW in 2011 using their method of consensus they were all dead

Katsumoto: Did Awo impose candidates? Awo led by example and others chose to follow his leadership.

Dayo, if you try to draw parallels between Awo and Tinubu, I will shred whatever is left of Tinubu's rep to pieces.

Shredding Tinubu to pieces doesnt remove the basics

ACN is Tinubus party just like UPN was Awolowos party.

Tinubu stands above everyone else in ACN and has control of the SW because the populace buys into his ideology just like Awo

The difference was that Awolowo was more of an ideological Leader

Katsumoto: Who are the they? Are Ige, Adesanya, Adebanjo ACN members?

These ppl are all dead and their proteges like Tinubu and Akande continued with the consensus they ran to win the SW again

Katsumoto: And your point is ..................

Is UPN was also a one man show just like ACN

Ola one: You are right.

Bola Ige had mates in Adesanya, Adebanjo, etc.

Who reins Tinubu in now? Please, ACN guys, tell us

Awo stands head above others in UPN and no one could rein him

Below Awo was Ajasin, Adesanya, Adebanjo , Just like below Tinubu we have Akande, Lai, and the Governors like Aregbe, Ajimobi Fayemi and Amosun

Katsumoto: That party had a much better structure than the one-man Tinubu show. It's not the same thing Dayo.

UPN is still Awolowos party. It was a gathering of people who shared Awolowos ideology.

BTW Awo was the Presidnetial candidate of the party both times

Ola one: That they were Awoists in the '70s doesn't mean they are in the noughties.

So answer the question


Were Ige, Adesanya, Adebanjo etc also charlatans for practising consensus in 1999?

Ola one: He is a charlatan then. He now heads a party called ACN that is hellbent on rubbishing Awo legacies.

Were Ige and Adesanya also charlatans for practising consensus in 1999?