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malvisguy212:
Adam married his clone and you use it as an attack of God sanctioning inbreeding ? You atheist like to challenge religious people to use their brain, were is us ?

Yes jacob married his cousin, but did God sanction it ? Verse please.

Guy are you here just to argue? If yes I will flog you mercilessly. Can you tell me how generations rose from the progenitor, Adam?

Farmerforlife:
What disappointing answers. I really expected to see lucid responses backed by scientific research, instead of counter accusations (your God allows it too), deliberate misrepresentation of the question (in.cest is different from inbreeding) and appeals for mercy (stop attacking atheists).

Come on guys, surely you can do better than THAT?

I don't think you read the whole comments you quoted. Come on don't be lazy, re-read them again..

Pelon:
This started in 2014 I slept no I was awake but all I could do is open my eyes I can't move my hands can't shout for help but it all felt like a dream..d next day I narrated it to my brother but he was unable to give me a valid explanation...
2015 I experienced it again but at an upgraded level this time I could feel hands holding me back couldn't shout again I fought back with the little strenghts I had left but all was nothing.I experienced it up to 3 times in 2015..
While I was young I knew I had gifts o could predicts what will happen but now all the gift is gone but that's not d problem now the problem is as anyone experienced such thing before?what was the preventive measures u used!!!PLEASE HELP

You're being hunted by the demon Succubus
Come and appease the Gods before it's too late!!!

JackBizzle:
Battle of the bastards. Epic episode. Ramsay Bolton dead

I shouted yeee! when I was watching it Superb beating (I wished John would have broken everything in his body) & later devoured by his own hounds

All hail the king in the North!

**Inside tip for S07..Er erm.. John snow will marry Daenerys (& get entitled to the dragon Rhaegal) and both will go on to become the most powerful King and Queen in the 7 kingdoms.**

Reyginus:
Rotten Eggs. Fat Pig. Both can serve as Symbols for dirtiness in a human being.

Alcoholism. Suicide. Gay rights. All are developments that tarnish the biological and moral integrity of humans.

Show me how this is wrong.

How does gay rights tarnish the biological and moral integrity of humans?

Reyginus:
Has it come to cancelling out? Okay. But you still missed the rhetoric. Your agnostic atheist doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. I'm simply asking you to look at the contradictions you created.

You can show otherwise though. That's why you have to understand the rhetoric. Maybe you'd be good if I make it a question. Can I say there's no illiteracy in Schools but still say I can't know something schools?

[s] Can dblackninja say he knows Reyginus a Mugu but still say He doesn't know anything about Reyginus? Can JackBizzle say he knows that he cannot find intelligence in Reyginus and still claim one cannot know something about Reyginus? [/s]

I know you will use that your school and illiteracy allegory as a valid point, that's why I cancelled it out earlier. It's doesn't by any means pertain to what we are discussing. All those are just op.
Seems you have forgotten the actual claim of the agnostic atheist

JackBizzle:
A humanist that hates gay rights and atheists?

Go and sleep.


And as for you and dblackninja's argument on the unknowable, it is easy to understand.

No one truly knows the origins of the universe. It is unknowable unless we have a time machine to go back and see it. At best, we can only speculate.

Your mind is also unknowable to me. I can't read it.

Yeah. Rey doesn't understand. Am just trying to make it clearer by enabling him provide most of the answers to see if we can actually get to a point.

Reyginus:
Symbolism, bro. What else can it be?

What sort of symbolism is that That's the worst I've heard. You're equating gay rights to right of suicide and destroying oneself with alcohol.. Please educate me on the symbolism you meant Rey

Reyginus:
Logic. [s] Aristotle's Rationalism. You cannot have knowledge of a thing and say it's unknowable. Not because it's Aristotle's but because it's a valid statement.

How can I say that it's not possible to know that schools are centres of illiteracy and still claim I don't know something about schools? [/s]

You just went op with this but am able to pick out logic as your answer.

Okay if logic enables us to arrive at that simple fact that "We cannot have knowledge of the unknowable" then an agnostic atheist can therefore conclude that we cannot have knowledge of God's existence or it's nature [if it exists] because there's no feasible proof whatsoever for that concept.

Reyginus:
What is gay rights? Simply [s] the right to suicide. The right to smoke your lungs out. The right to destroy yourself with alcohol. [/s] And what's humanism doing encouraging gay rights?

Rey who told you that^!!?

Reyginus:
Literature in English. Metaphors. Something cannot be literally unknown. Once it is 'some thing' it is known in the minutest detail.

It's funny you said metaphor yet you're alluding something and unknown as a thing that is not known. I fully grasp what you meant but that isn't what we're talking about.
Maybe I digressed so much but am sure I used brackets to convey my meaning...so I re-phrase:

We have established that it is not possible to know something that cannot be known. Now how do we know that it's not possible to know something that can't be known. That is, how did we arrive at the fact (conclusion) that we cannot have knowledge (know) of the unknowable (something that cannot be known).

Reyginus:
We can't categorize something as unknown.

Then why do we say that something is unknown? (There must be a reason for that)


Tend your answer. Will continue on it later. Ba3 about to die

Reyginus:
Lol. Yeah. I'd beat him up one of these days.

You will beat up your dad?? The gods must hear this

Reyginus:
Done with me? Lol. She knows what I'm capable of. My record in things like this is etched somewhere in Owerri, Imo State.

How was it etched? With gold on a marble or hand written on a soil??

Reyginus:
Then we can also say Agnostic Atheism cannot know that a deity is unknowable?

No no no. You failed it. Let's take it gradual as well.
Since from your answer, we have established that it is not possible to know something that cannot be known. Now how do we categorize something as uknown(or can't be known)??

Reyginus:
Lol. Thank you, babe. I can handle all of them. JackBizzle is my boy.

Don't forget he's your dad

redgem:
LOL.... You guys have a lot of issues already

Let Rey be....

Hahaha we are not done with him yet... just having lots of fun over here

Reyginus:
Lol. Look at this man! I'm trying to help you and you want me to do a full scan. Okay. The answer to your Question is No. Now tell me, can I know any aspect of something is the thing is unknowable?

Thanks for your honest answer Rey. Whether it's an aspect or full part of something that can't be known, then we cannot know it.. as it's not possible to know something that can't be known. Hope this is clear.

redgem:
a friend of mine back then in school for five years, never stepped a foot into the four walls of a church... The first day he decided to attend one, something crazy happened...he dressed up, entered a bike and when he got to his then destination, getting down from the bike...in fact before his second foot could touch the ground, his trouser tore.... He returned immediately and never dreamt of church



Hahahahahahahahah.....I don't know if he is now an Atheist

Just wondering though..

Yep, you know yourself

The gods were afraid of what he might do if he step inside the church hence the obstacle, just like in the bible about the angel with a sword

Reyginus:
You don't seem to get what I'm driving at. Let me make it plain now. The claim by Agnostic Atheism that you cannot know the unknowable is a logical contradiction. Once you know that something cannot be knowable you've known something about it and once you know something about it it is no longer unknowable. Agnostic Atheism, if that's really the stance, has a very little understanding of what it's standing for.

Oh Rey I know where you're driving to and you're very fast at that drivers seat, hence I wanna help you reduce your velocity.

This is not yet an answer to my double question marked question..

Reyginus:
No, it's not the adjectives. So how do you know that what cannot be known cannot be known? Is it possible?

Quite simple, but what's your answer on my question with double question mark.

JackBizzle:
?

Who cares about your foolish truth seeker title
Are you Richard Rahl?



What is your stance on religion/God? Atheist, Christian or deist?

Hahaha! Rey doesn't know which tree to perch on. Rey just believes there's a possibility of a God but still very confused, hence the high seeker status.

Reyginus:
He doesn't get it. If something is unknowable can we ever know it is unknowable? Isn't any attempt at knowability a testament it is not unknowable?

Maybe it's the wrong use of adjectives that is confusing you.
We can't have knowledge of the unknownable.. Is it possible to know something that cannot be known??

Reyginus:
So how did it arrive that the nature of any supernatural being is unknowable? Isn't the fact that it knows that something which is unknowable is unknowable a logical contradiction?

Because supernatural beings, if there's any, can't be know in fact (in reality/positively). There's no fact to show otherwise.
What logical contradiction did you find?

Reyginus:
Yeah. Agnostic Atheism. You know, we've googled too much that people begin to redefine to escape so I'd go with your definition.

If I get you well it implies agnostic atheists are not open to the idea of any supernatural existence and not also open to any idea that a deity is knowable?

Not only is the nature of any supernatural being unknowable, but the existence of any supernatural being is unknowable as well.
We cannot have knowledge of the unknowable bro.

Reyginus:
Agnostic Theism? What is it about?

I didn't say agnostic theism--that one is totally different on it's own. I said agnostic atheism.

You can google about it, there's a whole lot of topic on it. Let me just note down this excerpt:

Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

Reyginus:
Is Atheism open to new findings? What sort of findings?

Agnostic atheism is quite open to new findings with concrete facts. Look at the origin of man, there's a whole lot we don't know yet. We are not hidebound or close-minded like our religious counterpart who will tell us tales as facts about the origin of man.
We're always open to new concrete findings following a not-so thorny steps---empirical steps.

Reyginus:
Amen. I pray you understand your own position?

Great. Yeah my position is quite clear, devoid of headaches and deceptions and open to new findings

Reyginus:
If you keep searching you'd see what I'm saying.

Lol you don't really know which tree to perch on Christianity?...No no no their portrayal/description of God is silly, just doesn't make sense.
Traditional Religion?...No no no..those people are just archaic, deluded sects.

Islamic R.?....Hell no! Blood thirsty vampires? I can't join that occultic group.

Atheism and the likes?.. Those people don't know what they are doing. They don't know that this universe is filled with supernaturals and there must be something more powerful than all of them.
Look at the man that lost his joystick just by mere command of another person. Or that old woman in my village that turns to Ìkwíkwí (owl) every night. If those people can do that, then there must be a power (God) over them. Let us all seek God in every way possible (though he's yet to talk or doesn't talk, but am sure as hell that he exists).

I pray you find whatever you're seeking for Rey.

JackBizzle:
Only 6.5?

Anyway, do you watch the walking dead or game of thrones?

Game of thrones all the way I just disliked walking dead.. haven't even watched a complete episode.

JackBizzle:
Jesus!

I missed this comment. Pls forgive me.

I would rate the episode 8/10. It was a great episode but the ending was a bit unreal.

Hahaha why are you calling the Lamb of God? You wan use the sacrifice do suya??
Okay, just re-watched the finale..i think I allowed the cliffhanger to cloud my judgment--it's still part of the episode anyway. Yeah it was ok. Adding 3.5...so 6.5/10

Reyginus:
You seem like it's beyond you. You don't understand it. If you could see what I have in my head through telepathy you'd change your position. Atheism is not really for serious rational people.

Am just viewing you like Google...until then