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v24m:
modenine is not even happy with his current state of things. other mcees are making money in the likes of ikechukwu, naeto c, sauce kid , ruggedman. modenine cannot be happy with his current state. keep hyping him. it only shows your hypes are not reaching the corporate media. chill guys. go ease up on the hypes. the battery is running out of life.


and we wonder why the likes of dbanj, tuface, 9ice and co are making more money and are getting more famous.

Listen guys mode9 and rugged are different individual with their own style, but rugged s style of rap will go far in nigeria because it always has a bit of satire in it, which is what nigerians need all the time to wake up.

Take a look at all the past songs from Tuface, dbanj, faze e.t.c theres really no european touch to it,
modes way of rapping is like d Europeans so am guessing the reason his not soooo popular or rich is because most of you here fighting for him will rather go and listen to the likes of wayne, game,50,soulja boy, TI and so on. instead of modes.

Nigerians that listen to songs from rugged are the low class and a bit of the middle class because they can relate with it, that why he will go far and besides the guy is already a brand.

I really don't know why there should even be beef in the first place.

@
V24m
Nice post. But,
Rugged? Satire?
See, me im very particular bout choice of word pple use.
So now u sayin "but rugged will go far, bit of satire in it.
Meanin that's a differentiating factor? Cos truth be said
M.9 has more satirical lines, nay tracks than Rugged.
And i can list, tracks and lines to support.
So wat's ur point.

2ndly,we r not just rooting for M.9 for nothin'
we do so because we believe lyricism is d main ingrident
of hiphop, except nigerian hiphop has a different POV.
But we believe that an emcees strenght lyrically ditermines
who shud be dreaded and respected in d game.
We never said M.9 has more money, nope
Neither hav we said he has more followership or shows, nope.
We kno Rugged has that and we dont argue.
We only say the crown for the greatest lyricist is in M.9 custody, simple.

Mnwhile, 9ce, 2face, and those u mentioned that dont hav european influence
aint doin hiphop, at least as far as we know hiphop to be,
tho d ignorance in our music industry make pple even call 9ce a hiphop artist, phweeew!
(lets 4get d fact that 2face ft a R,kelly wit his european touch oo)
they belong to a diff. genre, and a genre that is more accepted in 9ja.
Rugged leans away from hiphop more to that pop genre hence more listenership.

oNe

@
Khanyeezy

T'sup dude.
I just dont like pple lacin' thier POV wit
abuses like that will make a weak point stronger.
I like logical assesment of issues at hand irrespective
of ur paradigm. Cos at d end paradigms do shift.(pun intended)
M.9 is the illest lyricist we have, and i'm always ready to prove it.
oNe

@
Saurone, jay blvd
Yes, i believe Rugged is more visible in 9ja, and prolly has more cash.
And yea, Rugged says he's all bout makin d money.
M.9 said he's in it for d love and wateva he gets from it is bonus.
So with this 2 mission statements braggin bout who make more money aint too relevant.
But really artistcally, money has never been the rating point of who's better, it's skills.
If u say Rugged has more cash, rocks more show i may agree
Now if u guys now say Rugged is more lyrical u will be soooo off point hence i strongly disagree.
But that's just ma opinnion.
However the best and simple way to check this is to post this rappers lines,
and let Nlanders check who got sicker lines.
The usage of puns, simile, metaphors, and crazier wordplay all together.
Beef or diss aside, lets do this.
I'm not into abusive langs, or using curse words on pple on thread,so lets keep it clean.
Ma own stand is M.9 is the most lyrical emcee we have,
hence his acknowledged as the best emcee in 9ja and africa.
And i have his lines to prove it.
plus, Rugged is also ma man.
oNe

DBR:
u call it d 2008 rap up
so let me spit some ishh like i got ma tap up
i came late to nairaland but i got ma ishh wrapped up
so many in here who should alway keep their trap shut
i want to trash 'em because they leave the game trashed up
some want to pull me down because i got ma act up
but when i crash i don't come down i crash up
got ma cash up
got papper stashed up
i corner each thread I'm on i got it trapped up
it's like i got pac and biggies ghost as dependable backup
so back up
ma intel is high up i got ma swagg strapped  up
i could take on Camotex & FlowShow together wrapped up
so nxt time i sign up exit tru the backdoor
i'm d director
don't make me shoot any of u fake actor
even in ur typo i can see ur H factor
mowin y'all like a demonized tractor
but it's d end of the year let me nice up
so i spit no further because ma time's up

it's all good brovs
oNe

@
Chamotex
@
Flowshow
Im so nice even i quote ma self.
But seem none of u want it wit moi so i put ma pen back on d shelf.
oNe

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on Yesterday at 03:19:17 PM
Any idiot can put words together but your flows lack vocab, complex, rhymes and multies.
U need to work on that to be even considered in the premiership of netcees on NL.

This is exactly wat pple say Rugged lacks and M.9 has so aint it contradictory to now say
'the guy that lacks these skills is now better than d one who does?.

As per Rugged response, it's same ol' balderdash, u broke, i got more money.
Personally i dont think what was posted was Rugged's responsewas actually Rugged's
Tho we say he aint lyrical, i dont think he's stupid enuff to make such frivolous statement.
M.9 never dissed 9ce, if anythin that line: "the track u did wit 9ce was 9ce cos 9ce was on it"
was a prop to 9ce and not a diss, so if Rugged actually says dat M.9 was talkin trash bout 9ce then maybe
Rugged is really dumb lyrically. Dang! that wordplay is fire

Sm1 posted a response earlier sayin Rugged said M.9 wasnt talkin to him in Death Blowcos cos
his name wasnt mentioned, so he wld not reply, and now did he just decode he was really the butt of the whole joke??
Rugged has been dissing M.9 too, and he even subliminally said M.9 shud hit direct.
Now he's been hit and o n bangin' sii leti and he's complaining that M.9 is just lookin for who to diss for fame?
Puhhleaaaseee!!
Wasnt that wat Rugged did?.
Now it's his turn and he's bitchin'? He shud just take it like a man and as usual
get his ghostwriter to bail him out.
Soulja boy moves the youth market, and has more show, and probabaly making more dough than Common or Nas
but does that make him a better Emcee?, that line of tot that the one wit bigger check is the illest is just so retarded.
oNe

This 2 cats made 2008 a good year for Hiphop/Rap.
2 classics.
2monsters
2 Ms
1 9
1 i

oNe

@
Tosinadeda.
C'mon dude, Ether is an english word. Plus, most rapper and head use it frequently.
Phrases like-50cent ether Jrule and some more is a common phrase.
I'm sure u just used this to raise dust, lol
I really like ur style.

@
Skingo
C'mon man.
I tot u wld just let this post pass witout sayin wat u said that yea m.9 jacked it.
Cos u'v defended sm1 else that pple say swaggajacks

Mnwhile lets assume that he did jack it,
"Ether" [/b]is just a word. As in 1 word.
How many words do we have in: [b]"i cant feel my face"?

Oh ooooo.
oNe

u call it d 2008 rap up
so lemme spit some ishh like i got ma tap up
i came late to nairaland but i got ma ishh wrapped up
so many in here who shud alway keep their trap shut
i wanna trash 'em cos they leave the game trashed up
some wanna pull me down cos i got ma act up
but when i crash i dont come down i crash up
got ma cash up
got papper stashed up
i corner each thread im on i got it trapped up
it's like i got pac and biggies ghost as dependable backup
so back up
ma intel is high up i got ma swagg strapped  up
i could take on Camotex & FlowShow together wrapped up
so nxt time i sign up exit tru the backdoor
i'm d director
dont make me shoot any of u fake actor
even in ur typo i can see ur H factor
mowin y'all like a demonized tractor
but it's d end of the year lemme nice up
so i spit no further cos ma time's up

it's all good brovs
oNe

Im so glad pple are feelin the brov.
Cos when i found out im feelin him i tot sth was happenin to ma taste of music.
I was taken over when he cam eto ma church Household of God, the brov is off the hinges.
Too bad thet the voice that is really workin for him is what smone else is hatin' on.
God really comfound the so called wise with so called foolish things.
Im still lookin for his CD too.
oNe

Rugged will reply, his ego wont let him keep quite.
And when and if he does, it will be more detremental.
So whether silent or response he's already like "an antelpoe in d lion's den"-(M.9).
We kno pple write for Rugged, so im sure his ghost writters are burnin'
midnight candle to match up, but like M.9 said
you culdnt ghostwrite if you were shakespeare's spirit"
M.9 has risen to a lyrical hight that his lines are like quotable quotes.
So whateva Rugged's response is, whoeva ghost writes for him, Deathblow2
is waitin to top.

Now lemme ask, did Rugged really change/clear the game?
I think he's been credited for that for too long.
Before ehen the rapper i'v know that gave me an international feel
was M.9, i heard "Bomb blast" and saw the video,the video than wat tite,
lyrics was sick. i didnt really kno who he was then
until i heard he's a 9ja guy called Mode9.
Wat did rugged do, he dissed eedris, maintain, raski and who?
Did it make this guys better? Eeedris released tracks after that so did others and t'was same ol' thang
so what "he clear off the mess" r u guys talkin bout, the collabo he had wit both Raskid and eedris
wasnt any better. And rugged still felt comfy wit them, tot he said they were wack

Rugged has no impact on the top and also emerging rappers now in 9ja, so wat did he really do.
However listen to most rappers in their lines, ref. is mostly made to M.9 lyrical wizardry.
Rappers say thing like: my punchline r hard like dat of modenine.
Now that is influence! Even rappers y'all respect know that.
But lets even agree dat ruggedy did clear the mess-aint he a mess now?
It's like a typical politician that campaign against incubent, pointing out their flaws.
However when given the opportunity to lead he to fell into mess.

Yea Rugged may get more publicised shows in 9ja, but hey outside the shore of 9ja whose name dyu think
the reckon with as the best thing that's happened to Hiphop in AFRICA?,Oh oooohh.
so now you know. And like he says again:
We'r woldwide them no kno u for togo/ player in d background woon ni logo/-M.9
oNe

tosinadeda:
kel aint underated!!!!
she just came out with her first single this year
and its been all over radio!!!!


@princessa & DBR
u can both like to explain to me what u mean by she is underated!!!!!!

@
Tosin
Yea she came out this year,but she's has featured in 'bout 3 videos.
Still she aint got the buzz expected.
Tho a male but in d same game, if u consider the kinda buzz M.i had b4 he
even released his album u'l get wat im sayin. Im just sayin that for the kinda skill she's got she
shud get more recognition.
oNe

Illbliss, ,
yea the dude is really workin',
puttin materials together for his album.
He has pushed the album release back a couple of times but
let me assure u guys it's gon' worth the wait.
He's got tracks produced by Eldee, micworks, frenzy,
he has Pype, TerryG, Durella and some others on his ishh.

Infact he just stepped out of studio ysterday on a track M.i produced
for him. With privilege insight n access i can assure y'all ,u wont
be dissappointed wit Illbliss when d album drops.
So brace ursef guys! He's gon' drop it soon.
Maybe this year still, or early nxt year, just wanna tidy up d deal.
oNe

Yea, i tot i mentioned it before, t'was Ruby on the hook on the track "Nine"
M.i also featured her some time back titled "Time".
She has really upped her game considering her delivery on "Time".

On green passport i was hopin' sm1 else wuld notice it too.
Im glad Javalove did.
I think Sound sultan didnt do justice to that track.
I too prefer the original which Kidkonnect produced to
the remix in PS.
SoundSultan went off key a number of times on the track.
For me he didnt cut it, wuldda prefered a Terry da Rapman on
the remix cos of the kinda humour he culdda brot to it.
i like the line on "chillin' wit ur gurl" where M.9 spat:
"she's like a cigarette without a filter, no butt".
I think we'l do our fav. lines from PS later.
oNe

M.i blazed the track, gooshhh!!!
Kel ripped it apart as well.
Kel is so underated, she's one of d finest female spitters we have.
Tite stuff!!!
Just for a mention,ma top 3female emcees r
Kel,Blaise, Bouqui.

oNe

U guys are just funny.
I think many pple hate on M.9, dunno y tho.
pple complain that his album wsnt available on time
but same guys didnt complain that M.i's sufferd same.
M.i was s'pose to drop on the 1st of Dec. but we didnt get it
until 12th. M.9 didnt even take that long, lol
But the fact that M.9's name keeps comin up in every hiphop/rap thread
only point to d fact that he is a factor.

That said, M.i, great dude, im feelin the dude welllll!!!
And guys dont try pitch him against M.9, they are pals, and
not in competition, sorry to dissapoint u guys.
M.i respects M.9 well. And M.9 feels M.i too.
And for those who says M.i doesnt diss,
one advice, get cotton buds and clean up.
cos dude disses and brags well, it's all in the hiphop thingy.
Lastly, for those who say M.9 got himself a rival
i say nahhh, he's only got himself an heir.
Ma fav. 2 hiphop/rap album of the year: M.9's ParadigmShift(PS) and M.i's Talk about it.
All heads and none heads shud have those,,,and it's a rap!
Red eye, red eye, loopy baby!!
oNe

Bamsyle:
@DBR/Abdurrazaq
Good reviews. However, when I said Mode can't do dance tracks, I meant it as a statement of fact that I have come to believe. I don't see it as a flaw.



In the final analysis, what really counts is - dance or not, how skilled is the rapper?

@
Bamsyle
i think that is where we differ, and where u aint dispassionate cos u makin ref. to YOUR BELIEF and u called it FACT.
Plus, i just told u wat we know takes to make a club track.
So logically lemme ask,
1-can M.9 get a producer to make a club beat, i wld say YES he can (no Obama ishh intended)
2-Can he get d likes of a Dbanj, a durella, an eldee ,or an Olumaintain or Psquare to do a catchy club hook-again YES he can
3-Can he ride on such a beat? YES he can.
4-Will he do all these things just to do a club track?-I say NO he wont, so far, at least not on the already realeased album, lol
So wat i'm sayin is that it's not a question of inability to do which your "HE CANT" infers but the issue is HE WON'T

And in d final analysis it's d skill, so i'ld ask what skill is most talked about in Hiphop,
wat major skill is looked for in the artiste, i think it's lyrical prowess.
What is M.9 majorly known for, the last time i checked t'was his "lyricability"
So in the final analysis did M.9's P.S show this?

Personally My skin is black and Nine are my favs, tho t'was hard choosin'
Nice job Bamsyle.
oNe

Just wanna quickly say ma opinnion doesnt mean M.9 cant improve his skill.
F'course e'rbody needs that, anythin done can always be done better,
there's always room for improvement for all.
PS is a peep into that improvement, there's more to be seen.
Cos definately we've not heard the last of him.
oNe

Hmmm!
Paradigm Shift-PS, M.9,
@
Bamsyl
1st lemme say u did a commendable job.
That said- I think this is M.9 best effort so far,
no controversy bout that cos he too agreed when i told him.
Personally PS is the 1st Hiphop classic album in 9ja, i call it a clAsick!
Production was better on the album than previos works
Versitility showed up as M.9 flipped some ragga on us, which aint bad at all.
Unlike ogun isoye and fellow nigerians, social issues were tackled in a fun more friendly way
Case in point, Behind girl bush girl-tacklin cosmopolitant female issue.Forbidden love- tacklin tenege sex, and infidelity.
My skin is black, Green passport and the likes.
About M.9 braggin n boastin, i dont kno why pple credit that only to M.9
check the role call and tell me which rapper doesnt. M.9 lyricism only makes him come bang in ur face, and that's a plus.

As regardin Club banger, lemme say this, any nit wit dat grabs a mic can do a club track.
It is d easiest to do, y dyu think we hav more cats doin that,
It's unfortunate that what we shud credit M.9 for is what we critisize him for.
Get a club track producer, get some one to do a catchy hook and bang, we r all in d club movin our feet!
Ur lyrics dont even matter cos we aint listenin anyway.
So to say "he cannot do a club track" is a big error. when he decides to he wld.
So if he join d club wagon who will make us listen and bob our heads?? hnnn?
But like i say, Hiphop is a listenin music. Yea pple can take it to dance floor but it's really
a mature kinda music that makes u just bob ur head and LISTEN.
Imagine pple sayin if ur classical music cant be played in d club u r old fashion?
Classical music as by BEETHOVEEN, MOZART is sth u close ur eyes listen to and enjoy, dyu get?
JZ had that problem when he was losin pple LISTENIN to him cos they've tagged him a bling rapper as well
and he complained in one of his track he say
"do u pple listen to music or u just skim tru it"-.

Yea searchin for another CONTRADICTION in PS is like searchin for ONE MIC in another Nas' album.
That's d beauty of creativity, it reveals itself in different 9 modes(pun intended).
Jesse jags did a marvelous job on track 15-"NINE", Ruby on the hook ripped it apart.
Most of the tracks are radio/ear friendly not neccesary a club friendly, but im sure it's intentional
cos for now that's wat d brand M.9 stands for.
PS has raised the bar for hiphop album in 9ja no doubt, even those beefin' dissin' M.9 will cop it
and use it as a benchmark.
oNe

since 2007 oo.

, but right now shaa, as it stands,
Ruggedy no even dey radar again.
Mathematical sege all the wayyyyyyyyyy!

oNe

@
e'rone.
Hiphop/rap wise, 2 albums have made me glad this year.
2 cats have really warmed ma heart.
M.9's-Paradigm shift & M.i's-Talk about it
I think both are great albums that anyone who claims
he likes rap or hiphop shud have as a collection.
@
Caballi
if u listen to M.i well enuff u'll kno that he disses other rappers(wack rappers)
tho imaginary, just like M.9 throws general warnin shots at fake cats.
So dont say M.i doesnt diss or war, it's just the way of hiphop.
Worry not, cos with time M.i will have his personal battles and personal clashes wit some cats, it's all in the game.
M.i is coool, and i dey feel the dude die!!!

He has greater commercial appeal which M.9 cant contend or rather wont compete for.
(dunno y pple dont get it that M9 doesnt wanna be a commercial wonder,
it's deliberate by him and he's contented(now that is a virtue) wit d few heads feelin' him, while convertin' "non-heads".
M.i, he has nice lyrics as well however the crown for lyricism hasnt left the custody the one who owns it, M.9 no doubt.

Personally i dont see M.i as M.9's competition rather i see M.i as M.9's heir, and that's wat it is.
And there's no war btw 'em cos both of them are cool and feels each other.
So like smone said:
"M.9 for prez, M.i for vice.
oNe

just listenin to Bigboy rap again,
goshhh, im feelin the way the violin rides out on d track.
So bigboyishh!

princesa:
that is the main thing,  making your money
while  getting some nerves all screwed up over nothing

@
princessa

Since when did makin the money the MAIN thing in life.
Such statements give me the chills.
i hope we dont carry such attitude into our own personal life and career
Like Nas said what do u base ur happiness on, material possession , ?
It shows y we r the way we are around here.
From politicians embezlin, to pple fakin drugs,which is like adultrating,
or if u may dumb down the content of a good.They all doin that cos the figure makin money is the MAIN thing
Thats y we get sub standard good, services and we hail.
See, e'rone needs money, but not all of us will do anythin to make d money, or see it as the MAIN thing in life.
oNe

@
Chasisgirl
the beat is;
y'all wanna live my LIFESTYLE by Fatjoe aka Joe Crack.

oNe

lalaboi:
me i nor know oh! i dnt care about the beats! all i was shaking head to was the puch lines!

its good u sef knw say mode is on top!

@
lalaboi

I think its a Fat joe beat. cant remember the title now.
M9 aint a coward o far from it. remember in spectacular he says
we cld tussle in open but subliminals are better
this is not beef this is lyrical vendetta
cos some dude's gon be like it's publicity stunt he wanted to keep it on d down low.
Personally i dont think it needs a vid. It wld be an over kill.
He shud put any fund for vids, into d likes of Bigboy rap, My skin is black and d likes.
Right now i don t see Rugged on the radar no more, except he comes wit sth brlliant
that may get him a 4th spot of 9ja top rappers.
to think of it that i was or maybe still a Ruggedy fan oo
Anywayz,
oNe

dammiecool:
Still Rugged,90% of mode yab is not really workin;RASKIE better dan rugged man,ojb raps better dan rugged man, koko yam head, head warmer in d blazing sun e.t.c,if u all look at it critically all this are weak,coup de grace which means mode admit rugged is no 1 n hes stagin a coup,u can compare this diss 2 ehen which makes a lot of sense n also open people eyez.

Anyone who says Death blow aint a classic diss track knows nothin bout Hiphop diss track
Check out Nas' Ether-
nas sayin jz shud come out of his throne dont mean he agrees jz was king, but that he's an impostor
Dick suckin lips, fat lips and other yabs from Nas was just humour too, shud we say this lines aint workin'?
Death blow is a pure classic diss track, there is fact,humor and everythin that makes a classic.
Who can tell me a hotter diss track
On a liter note, u don really check ruggedy head, e no take style be like cocoyam?, lol
Infact i call the track and the whole album
a clAsick!
oNe

tosinadeda:
wetin u dey yarn
av u ever heard the song ruggedy baba?
tell me what he meant in he song

He didnt  claim being the King,
he was just talkin bout wat he did wit ehen,
how u shud rep in mother tongue, how he cleared the industry, his anger at the keepin it real issue,
and that he's makin money and all the hype."Opomulero doent mean a King.
But M9 has said the track wit 9ce was 9ce cos 9ce was on it.
U cld sayy the video hweva alluded to that claim of being king but not from d track.
Anyway,i'v just subliminaly told u who the openin lines were for, decode it.
oNe

I think it's to generalising to say "talkin' yo u" as a track was for rugged.
The only line that has a ruggedman diss insinuations to it was even the last lines.(this baba that baba)
The openin' lines :Look jester u deluded u r not king
u'r d funny guy who does cartwheel in front of him
cldnt be for Rugged, cos rugged neva said he was king nor cld lay claim to it.

But i kno a rapper who claimed that, this rapper even went ahead to
have a "CORONATION" party where he was crowned wit a paper cardboard crown.
But yes there's been subliminals btw these 2.
I listened to a radio inteview on Rythm, where Rugged mentioned that he knows Mode was takin shot at him
in "Spectacular" and some other. Rugged to has been throwin some subliminals too.

Well all speculations r laid to rest, one has come out clearly to take d message home.
The Q now is can Rugeddy rise up to the game?
oNe

Nowadays criminals are like IICC
they SHOOTING STARS and takin there cars-
M9-Mathematical sege-paradigm shift

no, i wont dumb down one line/
it's like i got a plumb line/
attacthed to a riffle/
im staright killin d crowd ur star striffle
M9-Mathematical sege-paradigm shift


Front line rhymer
Put the bone of contention in paris plaster
my space(Myspace) page was design by NASA
All hail the lyrical Mufasa

Im ahead of time like Ted Turner (Ted turner is the CEO(the head) of Time magazine)
M9

any time i spit i dey trip u
try to block us ("blokos"na there we go kick u
M9-"kick u" Paradigm shift

Even if u stutter u wont be be king (BBking)
M9, cant remember the title tho

Male-In particular order
M9
M.i
Eldee
OD
Sauce

female-in particular order
Bouqui
Kel
Blaze
Ruggedman
Sasha

IMO.But subject to change.
oNe