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naijalodge: na that one they make una they rate rubbish so..u say ronaldo they pompous,..fine him fine pass u,money him get pass u,football him play pass u,anything for this life,him get and sabi Å̶̷̩̥͡•̸Ϟ pass u,so why him being pompous come they put hole for Ūя̲̅ pocket..iniesta n0 play the last 5 el classico meetings..Ronaldo scored in the last 5 meetings and majority of the goal were winning goals...some even won them trophies..like his only goal gave madrid copa de ray,his winning goal against bacer gave madrid spanish leauge last season,his winning goal also gave madrid spanish super cup yesterday..yet una go they here they spit rubbish all in the name of one stupid excuse...

gave madrid the super cup hahahahaha. i thought you guys said it was a meaningless cup last year.

eyoniggar: You all should know that winning trophies all the time would make the football game so boring.When things like this happen, it sure makes it the game of football, and we can all express our disappointments attimes and express our joy another time, thats the way it goes and the way it should e. Over all, we lost the trophy, but we bossed them as usual.

i quite agree with you. in the first leg we bossed them, dominated them, and it could easily have been 5-1(just as they claim the second leg could have been 6-1 for them). in the second leg, their 2 goals came from defensive blunders, esp mascherano. pique got to the ball first and should have cleared but apparently he had shakira on his mind for the umpteenth time. they dominated the first half but in the second half i didnt believe what our guys did with ten men. we dominated and were very close to victory. those 10 men were great. respect. overall, victor valdez did them a favour. so many would say that valdez saved us from heavy defeat in the second leg but how did we get there in the first place? with a 3-1 first leg result i am quite sure he would not have needed to make those excellent saves in the second leg.

bonetalk: Mr Man, what are u typing about? What were the criterial used in voting/selecting Messi as the European best player in 2010 and 2011 Since u think it's not only on players performance in La-liga, then Messi ought not to have won it in those years. Although, I am not against Iniesta winning it this year, but i only want you to understand that fact.

you really need some education and i'ld gladly oblige you. in 2010 the european player of the year was merged with the fifa world player of the year to form the fifa ballon dor so it became an equivalent of the world player of the year not european. in 2011 messi won the european player of the year because he won the champions league with a man of the match performance in the uefa champions league final. he also was the top scorer in the season's champions league with 12 goals. so fyi messi did not win the uefa best player because of la liga. copy?

tomakint: All is now set for the UEFA Best Player in Europe come August 30th in Monaco! The Inaugural edition of this award in 2011 formerly called the Ballon d’Or was won by Lionel Messi. For the 2012 edition, three nominees have been shortlisted namely; Andres Iniesta, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. It is expected that 53 journalists will decide the fate of the eventual winner come August 30th in Monaco when the draw for the Champions League Group Stage will be made. Who do you think will clinch this prestigious award? As for me my vote is with LIONEL MESSI!

me too but iniesta has it. and its all good.

naturalwaves: I watched d highlight of that match and I will pick Ronaldo's backheel,vision on d ball(he had his eyes on d ball wen it went up),superb ball control which brought d ball to a dead stop before shooting right there on d spot without moving.Messi's goal was very good too as it went behind d wall and curved into d net beating one of d best goal keepers in d world. With respect to technique,it was a 50/50. With respect to time,C Ronaldo had a shorter time to perform his brilliance(he scores higher there).With respect to motion,Ronaldo was on d move and faced a greater threat from oncoming defenders right behind him.The part that got me laughing was when Pique was searching for d ball after d backheel. In all,I give it to C. Ronaldo.That goal needs to be put in d museum if it were possible.Maybe a virtual museum would do.lolz.

lol. how ridiculous can we be. messi's superb freekick was a 50 -50? are you kidding me or what? oh! you didnt see that pique got to the ball first and that if he wasnt probably thinking about shakira he would have cleared the ball to the stands, just as a pepe would? na messi own you come see to be 50 -50. you're wrong brother.

la furia: is spain in africa or europe? Is laliga part of europe or not? Is the UCL part of europe or not? If euro 2012 was d main criteria, dats was unfair 2 messi who didnt play. So why iniesta? What did iniesta do in UCL and laliga, he hardly scores nor provide assist, go check d stat. How many goals or assist did iniesta provide in copa del rey. Even basquet won same trophies as ineista. D main criteria was d euro, iniesta was great, skilful player, i endorse.. The world best title is surely btw messi and CR7 or simply give it to pirlo.
So just calm down with ur anti ronaldo and enjoy d game.

iniesta-EURO 2012, spanish fa cup, club world cup, spanish super cup, european super cup. ronaldo only la liga. football aint entirely about scoring and assisting. as far as uefa competitions and awards were concerned, iniesta was lord over ronaldo and ronaldo was only a 'local' champion. amma calm down with my anti ronaldo whatever just after you quit with your ronaldo obsession.

ddippset: stop cursing friend, just tell me what ronaldo achieved in europe not in spain. what did he achieve in europe more than messi and iniesta. just tell me dont curse me.

hello, anybody home?

Arji: i normali dnt respnd 2 lowlyfs lyk u,buh gues i shud grant u a favor of dsplayin ur ignorance...jes f...ing yestadai,cr7 liftd d spanish supa cup 2012,he liftd LA LIGA's('nt jst' pri.ck) 2012 trophy wif an astounishn numba f goals and sensational play,he gave mourinho hs first trophy at real madrid,copa dey rey 2011( altho we talkin abt 2012 pri.ck) n so mch mor..so u shud pay more atentn 2 ur tv( if u'v got 1) whle watchn futbol,n nt wan.k..WAN.KSTA...no ofens bro,jes hw i feel!

hello, anybody home?

ddippset: it's an european award not a spanish award.

hello, anybody home?

Arji: i normali dnt respnd 2 lowlyfs lyk u,buh gues i shud grant u a favor of dsplayin ur ignorance...jes f...ing yestadai,cr7 liftd d spanish supa cup 2012,he liftd LA LIGA's('nt jst' pri.ck) 2012 trophy wif an astounishn numba f goals and sensational play,he gave mourinho hs first trophy at real madrid,copa dey rey 2011( altho we talkin abt 2012 pri.ck) n so mch mor..so u shud pay more atentn 2 ur tv( if u'v got 1) whle watchn futbol,n nt wan.k..WAN.KSTA...no ofens bro,jes hw i feel!

it's an european award not a spanish award.

Arji: i normali dnt respnd 2 lowlyfs lyk u,buh gues i shud grant u a favor of dsplayin ur ignorance...jes f...ing yestadai,cr7 liftd d spanish supa cup 2012,he liftd LA LIGA's('nt jst' pri.ck) 2012 trophy wif an astounishn numba f goals and sensational play,he gave mourinho hs first trophy at real madrid,copa dey rey 2011( altho we talkin abt 2012 pri.ck) n so mch mor..so u shud pay more atentn 2 ur tv( if u'v got 1) whle watchn futbol,n nt wan.k..WAN.KSTA...no ofens bro,jes hw i feel!

stop cursing friend, just tell me what ronaldo achieved in europe not in spain. what did he achieve in europe more than messi and iniesta. just tell me dont curse me.

Arji: wat kinda unpopular question is ds?..u hv recordz of wat iniesta n messi hv achievd in europe,n u ask wat cr7 has achievd.i'v got no ansa 4 ur kind..mtcheeew!

answer the question pls. this is not a la liga award. tell us what ronaldo did in europe. you guys said it was about trophies won then iniesta won euro 2012, copa del rey, spanish super cup, club world cup, european super cup. so i ask again, what did ronaldo achieve in europe?

Arji: Cristiano was certainly d best candidate 2 me..dos journalists dt voted jst dy beef dt guy 4 so mani reasns!

ok lets say its a uefa award right, FOR BEST PLAYER IN EUROPE; iniesta led spain to euro 2012 gold, being the MVP, messi scored 14 champions league goals(record), scored 5 in one game(record), messi won the european golden shoe with 50 goals, all in europe competiton. and ronaldo did exactly what in europe?

up iniesta. MVP. if not messi then iniesta is cool. maybe cus leo missed the euros. congratz iniesta. the sleekest dribbler in world football.

barcelona is very much better than madrid. the 'only one' runs around bragging about a 100 point season, when everyone prolly read about the goal.com analysis which showed how madrid benefitted from referees' errors more than any other la liga team last term. and how barca had an injury ravaged season. having said that we shall lift our first trophy of the season on wednesday.

AjanleKoko: That doesn't take away the fact that he missed chances that he usually converts.
I'm not trying to discredit him, just saying he needs to live up to the billing.
Messi is not a boy anymore, hes a man. I am almost feeling sympathetic to Ronaldo right now. We used to yab him that he comes unstuck in these games, now he has stepped up. Messi used to run these games, now he is less influential. That's a bit worrying to me as a Barca fan.
He's almost a sacred cow in the team. He's great, but if you carry the tag of the world's best player, you need to come to the party every time.

bro, i need to step into this. sorry to say u just might be a lttle ungratefull. you are talking about the all time classico king here. he has paid his dues and proved himself classico after classico. even when he doesnt score like last night, he gets into very dangerous positions , thereby creating space for others because he draws 3, 4 defendres to himself. unlike ronaldo whom i think has been taken forgranted lately becos of his jistory of classico flops. even today, what does cr7 do in a classico, he waits for a madrid counter or set piece and pokes the ball into the net. 95% of madrid's goals against barca come from set pieces and goal mouth scrambles and not from open play or intelligent build ups. last nite messi still out performed ronaldo. messi isnt all about goals, as the world knows by now. he missed a pk against chelsea so what? didnt score against madrid so what? barca lost la liga and champions league so what? how do you motivate a team that won 3 la ligas in a row? 2 champions league in 3 years, 14 trophies in 4 seasons? messi and co might just be bored right now? what else could motivate a messi who is the joint top scorer in classico history? a 3 timer in the ballon dor? a 50 goal season wizard? a man who can score 72 goals in a season, and he's born of a woman? against madrid last season he got 3 goals and at least 3 assists, and you still doubt him? he has the leverage to flop in more classicos and still be a big game player. though he has never flopped in a classico. only those who keep their eyes at the goal line could call him that. and to valdez. he made a terrible error last night, a very costly one.

the signing of alex song is for me the best thing to happen to my barcelona. i want some steel and size in my team. ive always sought that and now my dream has been answered, i fear no foe. bring on madrid now, bring on chelsea. and any other 'bully' of a team. with a line-up as valdez, alvez, alba, pique, puyol, song, busquets, xavi, iniesta messi, villa. the world is ours, and everything in it!

fabregas, masch, tello, villa MUST NOT start.

valdez, alvez,alba,puyol,pique, song,busquets,xavi,iniesta, pedro,messi.
with such a line-up madrid is finished. finished!

who cares about the best coach? am i watching coaches or footballers? my business is with the best players, the soccer artists of the game. to hell with the best coach crap.

THE EYE POKER HIMSELF. only guordiola could frustrate him to that extent.

he is very ambitious. he probably set out from day one to achieve that tag 'greatest coach ever'. fergie could have coached man u for a few sesons and run off to rangers, madrid, juve , and even enyimba to win titles all across the world but he put loyalty b4 ambition. same with wenger, he could have left arsenal for errr maybe lyon, and real madrid when they wanted him, milan etc to win titles. i wouldnt call him the greatest coach but the hungriest.

the game is very evident of what we are going to see more of this season. how chelsea think they will maintain success playing how they did against barcelona and bayern munich.you only win such games one out of time times. lets see them maintain consistency like barcelona, madrid, man u, ac milan in their hay days. now prove to us that you could survive those barca and bayern games over and over again.

damn 4-1

ddippset: damn 4-1

which 4-1? common 3-2. your father.

Jesus! 3-1.

chelsea una bus spoil for road? una no park am for una 18 today?

the thread and the responses are too long.

well i guess its ONE-NIGERIA even on the blood of every common nigerian. maybe if amaechi's old man travels to maiduguri and is chopped into bits by a boko knife or if he allows his son to be posted as a corp member to bauchi and is dis membered , then he might have a change of heart.

is this what the 40- laptop crew looks like?

francdec4: RONALDO NO DOUBT IS SUPERB BUT MESSI IS THE BEST......(MY OPINION) MY REASONS.....



MESSI.......
scored 11 winners/equalizers ( 5 more than Ronaldo) in la Liga. Without his winners and equalizers Barcelona drops down to 5th place in La Liga. You could have added the big teams that he scored and assisted against : Real Madrid ( 6 games, 3 goals, 5 assists), Valencia (4 games, 5 goals, 2 assists), Malaga ( 2 games, 6 goals), Bilbao ( 3 games ( 2 goals, 1 assist), Atletico Madrid ( 2 games, 4 goals, 1 assist), Ac Millan (4 games, 3 goals, 3 assists).

Messi was also directly responsible for all 5 of Barca's goals ( 3 goals and 2 assists) in the Spanish super cup against Real. He scored and assisted both of Barca's goals in the UEFA super cup too. He scored twice in the CWC final. Messi basically scorer in assisted in all 6 competitions that he participated in.

Messi also scored 9 goals and assisted 3 in 5 games this season for Argentina. 3 of these games were World cup qualifiers in which he scored 3 and assisted 3. The 2 other games were friendlies in which he scored a hat trick for each.

Stats in La Liga

Goals:

Messi 50 (10 penalty)
Ronaldo 46 (12 penalty)

Accuracy:

Messi 5.5 shots/ goal
Ronaldo 6.9 shots/ goal

Individuality of goals:

Messi, 22/50 or 44% were directly assisted
Ronaldo, 35/46 or 80% were directly assisted

Assists:

Messi 15
Ronaldo 12

Creativity:

Messi 56 throughballs, 92 key passes (resulting in a shot) Ps: he has 2 times more successful through balls than anyone else.
Ronaldo 19 throughballs, 60 key passes (resulting in a shot)

Build up play:

Messi 176 dribbles
Ronaldo 73 dribbles

Lost possession:

Messi 96 dispossessed + 61 turnovers = 157 times
Ronaldo 79 dispossessed + 86 turnovers = 165 times

Also Messi broke or equalized more than 30 records:

• RECORD #1 - With 72 goals for Barca Messi set a new world record, surpassing Archie Stark (1924-25 Bethlehem Steel, USA)
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RECORD #2 - Messi became the first player to score 50 goals in a single season in La Liga, breaking CR's record of 40 goals.
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RECORD #3 - Messi (currently on 252 goals) became Barcelona's all-time topscorer, breaking Césars record of 232 goals.
• RECORD #4 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the CL with 51 goals
• RECORD #5 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the European competition with 52 goals
• RECORD #6 - Messi is Barcelona’s all time goalscorer in the International competition with 56 goals
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RECORD #7 - Messi is the first player ever in the history of the Liga to score 8 hat-tricks in a single Liga season
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RECORD #8 - Messi equals Gerd Mullers record of being top scorer in the CL 4 times
• RECORD #9 - Messi is the first player to be crowned top goalscorer in the Champions League for 4 consecutive seasons
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RECORD #10 - Messi has played more matches (60) this season than in any of his previous seasons with Barcelona. 

• RECORD #11 - Messi registered 29 assists for Barcelona in all competitions this season, a new personal record
• 
RECORD #12 - Messi became the first player to have scored and assisted in 6 different official competitions in a calendar year 

• RECORD #13 - Messi became the 2nd Barca player (after Pedro) to score in 6 different official competitions in a single season
• 
RECORD #14 - Messi scored 5 goals in the CL-match against Bayer Leverkusen (7-1), most goals by any player in a CL-match
• 
RECORD #15 - Messi produced 35 goals in home games this Liga season, more than any other player in La Liga's history
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RECORD #16 - Messi produced 14 hat-tricks in La Liga in his Barca career, breaking the club record held by Cesar (13) 

• RECORD #17 - Messi became to first player ever to reach 100 points in the race of the European Golden Shoe (50x2) 

• RECORD #18 - With 214 games Messi is Barca's most experienced foreigner in La Liga history, beating record of Cocu (205)
• 
RECORD #19 - Messi (24) became the youngest player ever to pass the 50-goal mark in the Champions League
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RECORD #20 - Messi became record scorer in the CL knockout stage with 26 goals. Previous record: 18 goals (Raúl/Shevchenko)
• RECORD #21 – is the only player to have scored 2 CL hat-tricks in one season.
• RECORD #22 - Messi scored his 3rd CL-hattrick for Barca this season, equaling the record held by Filippo Inzaghi
• RECORD #23 – Messi is the only player to have scored 4 or more goals twice in one game in the knockout stage of the CL
• 
RECORD #24 - Messi became the 2nd Barcelona player (after Quini) to win the Pichichi trophy for topscorer in La Liga twice
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RECORD #25 - Messi became all-time topscorer in the Supercopa with 8 goals, surpassing the record of Raúl (7 goals)
• RECORD #26 - Messi has scored 4 goals in the club world cup. More than anyone else.
• RECORD #27 - Messi converted 10 penaties this Liga season, equal to the club record held by Ronald Koeman (1989-90)
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RECORD #28 - Messi scored in 10 consecutive Liga games this season, equalling the club record of Martín (42/43) & Ronaldo (96/97)
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RECORD #29 - Messi is the 2nd player (after H.Sánchez) in Spanish football to score 35+ goals in all comps for 4 seasons in a row
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RECORD #30 - Messi scored in 6 consecutive home games (twice) this season, a new personal record. Previous record was 5.
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RECORD #31 - Messi has equalled Samuel Eto'o's (2007-08) record of scoring in 7 consecutive away Liga games this season. 

• RECORD #32 - Messi registered the fastest hat-trick in Barca's Liga history in the game vs Mallorca (5-0) this season (17 minutes)
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RECORD #33 - Messi became the 4th player in CL history (after Litmanen, Crespo & Henry) to score in 7 consecutive away games
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RECORD #34 - Messi became the first player in CL history to score 14 goals in a single season (main tournament) 

• RECORD #35 - Messi (24 years old) became the youngest player ever to reach 150 goals in La Liga 

• RECORD #36 - Messi became the 4th player to win 3 Ballons d'Or, after Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini and Marco van Basten. 

• RECORD #37 - Messi became the 2nd player to win 3 consecutive Ballons d'Or, after Michel Platini.
• RECORD #38 Messi the first player to score 82 goals for club and country in one season.

Saying that though, I still think that Ronaldo ( who also had an amazing season), Pirlo, Casillas, and Iniesta all have equal chances as Messi of winning the Ballon D'or...for now.
The Ballon D'or will be decided by who has a better 2012-13 first half season.



What do you think..peeps?

great! great!! great!!!

very good analysis. you've practically killed it. i will copy and paste this anywhere for anyone it may concern.

this gotta be some serious asz whooping mayne. even the tunisians did better.