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[quote author=ODUA_NEGRO]first, why were you not present to participate in eze election?

second, may God preserve his life....but if Adekunle were to die today, Ihejirika will be there to pay last respect and give him a departing salute. so you can cry crocodile tears all you want.

third, adekunle's single push and assault to push biafra out of bonny was a breakthrough and landmark success, regardless if failures followed that. he is very skilled in the tactics of war. he is credited with running a war game maneuver on water before deploying to the war front......the first in history of any third world country.

fourth, the reason gowon was made head of state was because hausa no longer trusted south and wanted distance from it, hence their agitation for separation......so gowon, to them, would be a buffer and should another coup happen against leadership the hausa or muslim northerners would not suffer casualty. anxiety was high. unclaimed container loads of ammos were discovered at lagos ports. adekunle was running nigerian ports authority at the time. they alleged he was planning coup and asked him to go on retirement, compulsory retirement. he is a brigadier general, on retirement pay and will receive full honors at death.

fifth, i noticed you dont use "cesspit" in your vocabs anymore. what happened?[/quote]You are bloody laughable. It seems Yoruba peeps enjoy sitting historical fact on its head.

First, Yoruba do not like my truthful contribution on this forum.

Second, Ihijirika has no business attending the funeral of disgraced GOC of a Division. Adekunle was not a Quartermaster-General, Adjutant-General, Chief of Staff of Army, Chief of Staff Supreme Headquarters or Head of State. Do you think death of ordinary busy body and loudmouthed jackass such as Adekunle will attract military characters such as Ihijirika?

Third, I have to bust your bubble on this crap. Adekunle never set feet on Ubani (Bonny) until the last Biafran soldier left. Those Nigerian soldiers who saw battle in Ubani (Bonny) testified that Nigerian navy under the command of Nelson Soroh saved the day for them. The two Nigerian battalions the landed in Ubani (Bonny) were at the verge of total annihilation when NNS Lokoja and Enugu opened barrage of cannons. Also, tactical oversight on Major Ogbugo Kalu who pulled out prematurely due to heavy bombardments from big guns on the warships paved the way for Nigerian side.

Fourth, I guess you did not listen to yourself. It was down to every human that Yoruba and their fellow minority tribes in southern Nigeria were absolutely not a factor whether Gowon becomes a Head of State or not. The main headache of Gowon and northern region of Nigerian elites was eastern region. Which coup are you talking about in the post? Yoruba can not and will never engender the intestinal fortitude to precipitate a coup in Nigeria. Let me drum it into your skull that coup is not meant for cowards.

Fifth, Nigeria is a renowned cesspit.

@OP

I shall be hard pressed to accept this crap as s truthful story. The pieces do not fit together. Why should two high ranking police officers involve in a fracas over parking space at the police headquarters? It is unconceivable that any member of police force will think of exchanging words talk less of fists in the premises where superior officers are abounded.

Now on the issue of parking space, anybody who has opportunity to step foot in regimental headquarters of any unit, police, navy, air force, army, etc must dismiss this story as a fabricated nonsense because parking spots are strictly allotted according to position each officer occupies in the command regardless of rank. As a PRO, DSP Ngozi should have a reserved and clearly marked parking space at the Lagos State police command headquarters.

[quote author=GARRI (x7)]What are we to expect from one who fvcked her way to the top??

[/quote]Did you ever inquire whose duty it is to appoint Police PRO in the country? Is DSP Ngozi the only lady Police PRO in Nigeria? Why are Nigerians so idiotic?

Douglasdale: And what's Rochas bizness with Imsu school fees? Or haven't u heard of IMSU autonomy? U guys should be reasonable for once jare.

Are you the only person who has not heard about Rochas Okorocha’s empty noises about free education in Imo State?

[quote author=ODUA_NEGRO]your tax money is still funding adekunle pension. he was retired because they feared his war skills and how his loyal following in the army had grown strong and tactically effective.

General Benjamin Adesanya Maja Adekunle. Do you know what Maja stand for? I dont even know why they gave him that name sef, he is the opposite of Maja.[/quote]You must stop being naïve and extroverted ninny. Who is in his\her right mind will fear loudmouthed Yoruba army officer? At a point during the debacle, the field commanders decided to not pay any heed to the deranged jackass. Do you understand the meaning of the word-tactics? It is a culpable felony to associate a phrase such as “tactically effective” with Brigadier Benjamin Adekunle.

For the second time in the annals of military warfare, a GOC lost the control of the entire division. In 1969, 3MCDO was a spent unit. The first instance was when Murtala Mohammed absconded to Kano from Abagana.

By the way, let it be known to you that Benjamin Adekunle was not a “General” in the army. Yoruba peeps are very good at transforming an ant hill into Olumo rock.

Orikinla: [size=18pt]As my father of blessed memory who was a gallant soldier who fought in North Africa and Burma during the World War 2 said, the Biafran War or Nigerian civil war was a childish and foolish war by naive and ignorant young Army officers from one of the most unreasonable coups in history spearheaded by an atheist named Kaduna Nzegwu of questionable background like Ojukwu.
The genesis of the Nigerian crisis was started by ill-bred children who should not have been born. And even today the evil genius himself and the Owu general have questionable backgrounds.
The ill-bred children like their demons called Niger Delta militants, kidnappers and Boko Haram terrorists have questionable backgrounds.
Have you ever wondered why they never make noise about their parents?

See facts in http://www.amazon.com/Diary-Memory-Keeper-ebook/dp/B00AJTFQRE [/size]

What an arrant nonsense. There is no childish or foolish war. A war is a war. When Europeans are involved in a war, such fracas is characterized with positive adjectival clauses. This is simply a display of inferior mentality.

kingoflag: Walmart is known for low quality products?!

Lmao

Dude, how the hell did you manage to sneak into this country?

Kingofool

I could not believe myself reading intelligent constructs from you. Please keep it up.

Ngwakwe: @Dede1

Ndu_Chuck is 100% correct.

How could ndu_chucks be 100% correct in his wild insinuation that the act of Ndigbo begging for water in northern region of Nigeria gave rise to Nyamiri instead of the term used by Ndigbo to describe Aboki water hawkers, Onye mmiri.

One of the pointers of the so-called Igbo arrogance, especially in the Igbo sections of the cities in northern region of Nigeria, was the fact Aboki water hawker must understand the connotation of Onye mmiri in order to make profit from selling water.

An Igbo person hardly begs for something without the word, “biko”. Why did Aboki fail to incorporate “biko” into Nyamiri if such phrase was widely used by Ndigbo to beg for water?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Why are you indirectly calling fellow Igbos dummies simply because they lived in the North? Have you forgotten that Ikemba himself was born there?

Igbos who live up North were and are smart enough to learn Hausa. The water traders you referred to are called "Mai Ruwa" by all and sundry. Trust me, these water traders did not speak Igbo.

When you saw the traders down the road you'd yell Mai Ruwa and they'd bring their goods to you. The resident Igbos were not dumb to the point of yelling Onye Mmiri like mad men when the traders would not understand that its a call for their patronage.

In fact most Igbo people called the traders by yelling "Mai Luwa". They pronounced "Ruwa" as "Luwa" just as they pronounced "Toro" aa "Tolo". Even to this day, I wouldn't be surprised if you yourself have trouble with the pronunciation of the letter "R" being the unrepentant revisionist and secessionist that you are. As you told us a few years ago, even the Igbo prostitutes would say "luwa ya zo, tashi" instead of "Ruwa ya zo, tashi" (meaning water has arrived, get up)

Dede1, give it up.[/quote]Bros, you looked even dandier at foolishness in the second attempt than the first. It is funny to see how, in your infinite wisdom, you concluded that Ndigbo called out Onye Mmiri in Hausa vernacular and never learnt how to use the same vernacular for begging for water hence Nye mmiri.

I remembered the first Igbo vernaculars the baggers from northern region learnt were the Igbo phrases to beg for money. In according with your goofy stream of thought, the first Hausa vernacular Igbo person would have learnt, among others, was the phrase to beg for water in northern Nigeria hence the coinage of Nyamiri would have been muted.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Goodness gracious!!! Dede1 the resident revisionist rises again. The term Nyamiri was coined as I stated from the Igbo phrase for "Give me water" contrary to your lies which state that Nyamiri originated from Onye Mmiri.

Lets compare the two phrases

(1) Onye Mmiri ........ Nyamiri


(2)Nye m mmiri which means Give me water........ Nyamiri


Now, which one of the two is closest to Nyamiri. Dede1, your revisionism fails once again.

You are losing your marbles as you age nwannem. [/quote]You are at it again with your mischievous intentions. In this case though, I know you are not obligated to be genuine and factual as your pedestal approach showed. In your usual attempt to be smart and end up exuding niche for delusion, you should agree the term, “Give me water”, indicates sense of begging.

For your conjectural crap to hold water, Ndigbo must have been largely beggars of water in northern region of Nigeria. However, all the indices showed otherwise.

Again, Ndigbo would not beg for anything without adding “Biko” to the request phrase.

For example your ridiculous attempt on the #2 would have read:

Please, give me water = Biko Nye m mmiri. Aboki would have unfortunately interpreted it as BokoNyamiri

However, the truth remained that the shoulder-water-carrying Aboki hawkers on the streets of northern Nigeria are always on the move to meet daily runs. Therefore the mostly water buyers, in this case Ndigbo, have the tendency to shout Onye Mmiri, Onye Mmiri, Onye Mmiri in order to attract the attention of the Aboki hustling down the street with loads of containers of water on their shoulders or heads as the case maybe.

The constant yelling of “Onye Mmiri” by Ndigbo, both young and old, led to the coinage of the term Nyemiri. I guess the dielectrically constraints forced out O, E and one of the Ms from “Onye Mmiri” to give rise to “Nyamiri”

I am not losing anything rather you are perfecting the act of denial and the niche to be mischievous as you grow into adulthood, Nwannem. You should stop regarding a belly bath as a full bath.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]My peep have been calling Okoros, Nyamiri way before the war and it was not because they were begging for water. The term was coined by market women because they heard Igbo door to door traders ask fellow Igbos for water when they stoppedal to visit those fellow Igbo traders who operated stalls at the markets.

Much like the Igbo coined the Aboki term to refer to northern because they heard notherners call each other and others, Aboki. Aboki means friend, btw.[/quote]What an arrant nonsense. The term Nyamiri was coined from (Onye Mmiri) as street name Ndigbo call the Aboki people who carry containers of water on their shoulders as they hawk and sell water in northern region of Nigeria.

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manny4life: Sir, as much as I respect you and your post can be mean sometimes , but I really respect your words of wisdom. I think the bold part is what a lot of NAY Sayers misconstrue for reality. This virtual sorta of leadership is practically non-existent and doesn't in any way represent the true reality of facts of our people. You have indeed struck the crux point of all the nay followers. For many, this is a learning experience, a challenge, a way to understand how things are viewed and for some, it's a pedestal for criticism, either way, we welcome them.

Bros, I thank you for the kind words. This process of Eze Ndigbo Nairaland is by itself a learning curve. I salute you and the fellows such as PointB, 9ja_I_hail, saintohia, Ngwakwe, isale_gan2, etc who are steadfastly bent on the seeing the process to a conclusive end despite melancholic distractions. My people say “a person who does not know where the rain started beating him\her may not know where the rain stopped”.

Abagworo: I can't make fun of myself because I'm Igbo. As far as this Nairaland is concerned I am a strong defender of Igbo. Dig the archives and look it up. I am also a strong believer of Igbo identity. The issue I have is people trying to create false impression or re-write a tradition which I am very much aware of and in that process brain-washing our future generation. At no time in history did we have a powerful Igbo empire reigned by Ezeigbo the great of Igboland. We've always survived through dialogue in which everyone's voice is heard. There. Is the council of elders, the staff holders(Ojiofor) and Oparalis(the 1st sons of the various clans) who represent each clan in the meetings and also report the conclusions to their respective homes. Some people had kings but it was on village level like Onitsha, Aro, Oguta, Aboh and Abiriba. None of their Kings was ever regarded in other parts of Igboland apart from their village group.

Just like Okonkwo said "things have fallen apart".

The problem I have with people such as you is lack of commitment to the sustenance of Igbo culture and tradition while dwelling on irresponsible criticisms. Do you want us to engage in rigorous ritualism of staff holders (Ojiofor) and council of elders? The combination of these groups consisted of restrictive and esteemed society of men of title holders such Ozo. I can bet you are not schooled in the nuances of such dying and exclusive society of men.

This is Internet and some of us are privileged members of today’s form of royal family in Igbo land. Does such position add any significance to one’s style of living? I say absolutely no or yes depending on the community. Would the idea of Eze Ndigbo of Nairaland translate into modern era of royalty in Igbo land? I guess the answer is no.

I thought you would have taken your quotation of “Just like Okonkwo said "things have fallen apart" to Governor Rochas Okorocha and tell him to butt out from meddling in Ezeship in Imo State because Ndigbo believed in congregation of staff holders (Ojiofor), council of elders and first sons.

peleson: DeDe isalachi ee! Lol

pele

Ikee mo na ashi kwa gi isalachi mm!

belovedaja: @dede Nigeria is not a cesspit

@belovedaja

I guess it is your opinion.

belovedaja: have you considered the pain/gain of disintegration and the pain/gain of staying together?
Will disintegration end coruption/tribalism?
How will it affect the black race/africa.

Do you not think Nigeria has to be disintegrated before we can consider the pain/gain of disintegration? There is no way to humanly ascertain the pain/gain of disintegration of Nigeria without disintegration. It has been abysmally regrettable in consideration of pain/gain of staying together in the cesspit called Nigeria.

confusion247: Then the big question is how do we apologize to igbos after killing over 3 million of their own? Disintegration is the answer and the best option.

There shall be no need for any stinking apologies from the so-called Nigerians to Biafrans and Ndigbo in particular. However, the later look forward to getting even.

Katsumoto: On this issue, arguing with Dayo is akin to banging your head against the wall.

Akintola was his uncle.

Dayo, no matter how you try to spin it, people are not fools.

With regards to the wetie incidents, read Fazil Agbe's piece supplied by Physics and you will observe that even Akintola believed that they were sponsored by the NCNC. Of course you know that the NCNC assisted Akintola in causing the brouhaha in the Western House leading to the state of emergency in the West. And instead of joining the NCNC in an alliance, he chose to join Balewa/Bello.

I never thought one day we could agree on one issue. You could not be more correct with the first sentence in the above post. He\she is not called Dayolodo for nothing.

In addition, it is unfortunate you construed the action of one person as the collective agendum of entire political party.

Obasanjo is “one man battalion” my foot. I guess the same one battalion few Corporals matched barefooted from Ota to Nigerian prison in Bauchi on the orders of One-man Division named Sani Abacha.

peleson: 1st privaTe school in Africa, education started in the east but the south south pioneered it. Likes of KING JAJA of OPOBO who sent his son PRINCE SUNDAY JAJA to study in royal college london alongside the royal house of Britain kids.
KiNG jAJA also had AMBASSADORS representing KINGDOM OPOBO in UK n other leading eauropean countries.
Chief Peterside was an ambassador to. Great Britain hence one of his great grand children became the First EYE MEDICAL DOCTOR in Nigeria and now Another came Atedor Peterside CEO of STANBIC IBTC bank n a reformer .
ALVAN was great!

South-south is an invention of yesterday. When King Jojo of Opu Obu sent his son, Prince Sunday Jojo, to study in royal college of London, Opu Obu was and still remains in the east.

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Call Odumchi back, let him serve his tenure finish.[/color]

Mazi, Ijikwa Achu Buru? Eze Ndigbo Nke Abua of Nairaland in his infinite wisdom suddenly abdicated his throne. If you had any axe to grind, it is with Eze Ndigbo Nke Abua who insulted the collective wisdom of people who crowned him "Eze" by sudden abdication. As we are debating this issue now, I do not know if the Eze Ndigbo Nke Abua is still in the community or whether he has left town too. My people say that ”Echiche echere gbuo madu echegiya abali abua”.

[quote author=Okija_juju]Just because majority hold a certain view on a subject matter does not necessarily make them right.

Also, the issue of the spelling of 'ikwerri', that's a case of who's spelling it. Many in Rivers State also do spell it as "Ikwerre", which is a product of how it is pronounced. Sort of like 'Igbo' and 'Ibo'.[/quote]As a matter of fact, majority has been found to be wrong more times than not. However, the issue of majority and minority is centered on maturity, advancement and social decorum. It is clearly an essence of irresponsibility for a stark minority to impose its political models on majority. I usually suggest to minority to abstain from the process. I have abstained from such situation.

I usually do not give ratazz how a person decides to spell words. However, in the case of Ikwere Militant, he\she flunked the common act of human decency by asking if he\she is allowed to participate in a process where only qualification is being Igbo. Well, I guess he\she doubted who he\she really was.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]This Promoe of a guy is worth considering for Ezeship if Onlytruth karia suddenly becomes a coward and rejects his nomination. We all know that Dede1 is too proud for the job.

Buy Promoe, you need to drop the pink ink thingy ASAP [/quote]If you were not a Nigerian leftover, I guess your suggestion would have attracted consideration.

Promoe: [color=crimson]Those who think that being an Eze means you must be pro-Biafra, you got it all wrong. Biafra is what you choose to be not what you are. For example, i'm proudly Igbo but not a Biafran, there are many other Igbos like that. It is the way we see our country that makes it as bad as it is. Where Igbos will say it belongs to the Northerners while Hausas will say it belongs to Igbos. Countries like South Africa and Ghana should not be seeing our back in terms of development if not for our divisions. If an Anambra man can come out and call his fellow Igbo bad names because he's Aro (Nri Priest to Odumchi) then tell me how Biafra will stand a chance to be a better country than Nigeria? When an Imo state girl brings her keyboard and type to an Ikwerreman, "you're not my brother" (Bliss4lyf to Ikwerre militant), I wonder what type of unity you all vile for? I hereby beg you all to change your mentality towards your fellow tribesman. [/color]

Please I suggest you park this endeavor. Most citizens of industrialized and progressive countries of the world call each other names. They even engage in hand battles during heated political debates. I hope you have not staked a cent on the reality of monikers on this forum? The so-called Ikwere Militant could not spell Ikwerri correctly talk less of hailing from Isiokpo or Elele.

If Biafra does not induce sentiments to you, I say it is good for you. However, it brings sense of fullness and encouragement to others. I do not know why you invoke the spirit of developed countries when you seem to go against the cardinal gem of those countries, thus, simple majority.