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Rossikki:
You are grossly ignorant and miseducated.

Firstly, South Africa and the rest of Africa, including Nigeria, ''enjoyed'' virtually the same length of white rule, give or take a couple of decades. Theoretically, every part of Africa should be as developed as South Africa. The reason this was not the case, is European corruption and greed.

The Europeans in the 19th century, were in the midst of their Industrial Revolution. They then sent colonists to South Africa at the time. These colonists brought all the new knowledge of the Industrial Revolution to South Africa, which they basically made THEIR country. They built up South Africa just as if it was a European state, because they were many European settlers who moved there. Thus from the 1870s they started to build universities, engineering institutes, and European standard infrastructure. The country's export proceeds from gold and other minerals, were re-invested in the local economy, and used to build up the country. Such that by the 1940s, South Africa was virtually a developed and industrialised country.

Now, in the rest of Africa, the Europeans were similarly present from the late 19th century, including in Nigeria. The difference in their conduct in those territories was clear. They were no European settlers in those countries, and so the whites simply decided to EXPLOIT those nations, including Nigeria. They built near-zero infrastructure, and the bulk of export proceeds from our coal, palm oil, groundnuts, cocoa, tin, rubber, iron ore, etc, was firmly deposited in London, Paris, Brussels etc.

IT IS THE REASON EUROPE IS SO RICH TODAY. They exploited those colonies ruthlessly for nearly a century, taking and taking and taking, and putting nothing back. At independence in 1960, Nigeria had not ONE university. Not ONE major power plant. Not ONE expressway. Not ONE major hospital. Not ONE stadium. Literacy rate was under 10% at independence. Malnutrition was rife. All this after nearly 100 years of uninterrupted white rule and export of our resources. They basically came to rob us blind, and they did. If they had invested just 20% of the income they made back into the colonies, no part of Africa would have been underdeveloped at independence in the 1960s.

So instead of worshiping white people as your gods, study and and know them for what they are, and for what their forbears did on this continent, and learn to checkmate their perfidy and greed.

Nigeria today is 100 times better off than it was under colonial rule. We can be very thankful for black rule, because without that black rule, we would all be illiterate peasants stuck on village farms, just like our grandparents, who suffered total and abject neglect under colonial rule.

It was the post-colonial black African governments that made MASS EDUCATION a priority, and built thousands of schools were none had existed prior.

Our current black leadership are not perfect, but they are ONE MILLION TIMES BETTER than the colonial exploiters.

Bro, you are learned. I concur with you completely. A nice intellectual rendition but next time, don't start out by cursing the ignorant person, just get them educated. Although, I understand it can be a pain in the ass when people on nairaland argue so forcefully in ignorance. A lot of people here don't argue based on historical facts, but their sentiments and what they think.

Unfortunately, before bright minds take their time to comment on topics, the first page would have been filled with people chasing first to comment.
lalasticla, this is a topic that deserves to be thoroughly discussed.

sexybbstar:
And the reason y it can't be possible is due to some of the points stated there.... The reason y gender Equality is been frowned at is mainly because of physical differences.

It's not a debate of whether it will be possible or not but an advocacy to improve the prospects of women. The gender gap is too wide ... pay gap at work, the constraints they face in getting employment and growing on the job. The work women do at home is not calculated as part of GDP but if a nanny does it, it is calculated as part of GDP thereby underestimating women contributions to the national economy.

Why for example have we taken it for granted that it is the woman that has to give up her dreams for other siblings if something goes wrong in the family? Why for example, does a woman have to give up her aspirations or 'cut it down a bit' once she is married? Can't we find a balance that allows both a man and a woman to succeed with their aspirations? By doing this, we place a glass ceiling on women and decapitate their capacity to aspire and achieve their aspirations.

The idea is that making progress in achieving equity in economic participation and opportunity and political empowerment will not benefit women alone but will benefit families, communities and the whole World. Women empowerment, for example, is at the centre of the global fight against poverty and inequality.

It is unfair and runs against nature to deny women the opportunity to succeed as well as men just because they go on maternity leave or because of what your religion says or because you want to be 'the man' or just because of things they are not directly responsible for.

We know that we may not be able to achieve gender equality in a practical sense completely because of traditions, cultures and historical legacies, but we can unleash the power of women for development by doing as much as we can to close up the gap.

The argument of whether it's possible or not may not hold water because a lot of countries are already closing this gap - for example, Scandinavian countries and even South Africa, back home.

DontCallMePale:
This entire post is trash. And that's me being generous. You sound soo ignorant. It doesn't even seem like you even know the first thing about gender equality. Ignoramus

I concur with you Bro except for the 'ignoramus' part.

Dear Sexybbstar and nairalanders, gender equality is not about 'equality' between men and women, it's an advocacy for equal opportunities for
both men and women.

These guys are making life difficult for innocent Nigerians working hard abroad. Imagine being an innocent hustler and people view you as a potential çriminal'because of these evil guys. Quite frustrating.

Companies should start investing massively in cyber security. The internet has become both an enabler as well as a threat to business.

Mod, the title should read Kogi worker 'resorts' not results.

Saying that a sensible policy like this cannot take effect until there's an agreement that it is congruent with Islam and culture is retrogressive.

I don't think this response is necessary at all.

You're very right Mr Kolawole. It is not raw agriculture and farming as the government is thinking that can create jobs, it is in the value chain that we can make the most benefit. The government needs to take the value chain approach to be able to make any meaning of agriculture. Else, every Minister of Agriculture will come and sing his own song and go and nothing will be achieved.

This is definitely not Nigeria. It's either of Southern or Eastern Africa.

FAYOSE is doing 419 on Ekiti people.

NwaObinkita:


Nigerians are so exploitative....



Dollar instability has made even farmers increase the price of maize.


Imagine that!!!

Yes, that makes sense. If they don't increase the price of their maize, they would not be able to afford other commodities they depend on that the dollar hike has affected.
You don't expect them to keep the price of maize unchanged when the price of other commodities (affected by the dollar rise) they buy have risen. It will be foolish and suicidal.
The scarcity of foreign exchange, coupled with the reckless CBN ban on some commodities from accessing the foreign exchange window could not have led to anything else but a general inflation. That's how the economy works.

If the deal succeeds, Glo has a chance of becoming bigger than MTN

Mynd44:
So a rep of the bank came out to make this BS statement and for some reason, his backside was not fired and also a overhaul was not ordered into the operations of that branch? What is wrong with this country?

These guys just admitted that they have not been properly doing their job when it comes to investigating those who apply for loans. How can a businessman act like a farmer to ask for a loan and you did not know? Did you have discussions with him about his plans for the farm, the different farming techniques the challenges and he aced it? Questions only a farmer will know. So someone claims to be a bean (for example) farmer and he will know how many weeks it takes a particular strain of beans to grow? Or the expected weight of a chicken at 12 weeks?

Dont they go with them to their farms to do assessment and follow up assessment? So when the diversion of funds start (for farmers but got "better ideas" and decided to go into business)

Have they tried people who divert such loans in court? Have they sent the EFCC after the criminal people who take loans and not pay back? What is wrong with these people?

Exactly my sentiments. What I picked up from the whole thing is not the sensational headline but the fact that the Bank of Agriculture does not do due diligence before handing out loans. Not surprised it's not a viable bank.

sanpipita:
If by stating your tribe is a needed way to validate your opinion you can aswell keep it to yourself, NOI ran a better economy for this country her imprints are all over the place I doubt any finance minister in this country has ever come close, she might not have been perfect but to call her at her a failure is an outright lie

I would stop here. You're free to hold on to your thoughts.

olujastro:
Very unfortunate how lawless we are as a people. To think that well deserved punishments up to prosecution and imprisonment of those found guilty won't happen and we'll all move on like nothing happened till the next clash happens makes it more saddening. We've turned human lives to abbatoir settings.
Solution: How do we prevent this from happening again? On one hand we need systems that work so people avoid such acts because they know the consequences. On the other, we need to refine our behaviours to our fellow humans and do what is right & acceptable always.

You're quite right. It's been found that the fear of consequences after being caught is the single most important deterrent for crime and criminality in functional societies. Here, bad behaviour is repetitive because the institutions that should apply sanctions and punishments are weak.

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Thanks, I didn't have them before.

jumobi1:
Mass sacking should be in order. Court martialing too. This is unacceptable!!

Exactly what I would do if I was in charge. The earlier we start influencing behaviour through rewards and punishment in this country, the better for us all. Sack and court martial all the culprits. Next time, officers will think twice before behaving like the lowest of animals.

I just wonder what kind of training our armed forces receive. Being in the forces is not just about carrying guns. Military discipline is not just about doing push-ups or developing muscles. There are deep lessons in civics that you must imbibe for you to qualify to serve the state in such an esteemed capacity.

The CIA and the FBI are not the best of friends but they don't brawl on the streets or go to burn the CIA headquarters or the Pentagon. After 9/11, everybody sat up and closed ranks.

The energy and ammunition you're to use to police against oil bunkering and pipeline vandalism, you have turned it against your fellow comrades in arms.

To think, that as a tax payer, my money was used to purchase the ammunitions that were misused is very painful.

sanpipita:
Funny you had to tell us you are Igbo, did anyone ask you? continue pretending what you are not

I had to say it because it now appears as if Igbos can no longer make objective assessments especially here on nairaland. That very serious issues are now being analysed through the prism of tribe/ethnic group. Yes, there are millions of hard working, talented, successful Igbos in Nigeria and elsewhere. Okonjo Iweala is also very successful in her own rights and has definitely succeeded in many of her endeavours for example at the World Bank where she rose to the position of the Managing Director. She deserves all the credit and is an inspiration especially for young women for all that.

However, this should not becloud the fact that her performance under the GEJ administration was woeful, a fact to which she admitted to by herself. She admitted that the best thing for her would have been to resign but she stayed while the mismanagement continued while she was the Co-ordinating Minister, a more powerful post than under OBJ.

I can't praise her for that poor judgment especially when people are now blaming Adeosun and telling her to go learn from Okonjo Iweala. When in fact, Ngozi saw all these coming already due to the corruption in government and yet did not do any serious protest. She could have resigned to send a strong message to the government instead of coordinating an economy that was bleeding to death under corruption. How else do you want to explain economic genocide?

There's a principle of cause and effect. The PMB's government has definitely faltered and failed in keeping many promises but that does not becloud the fact that the suffering of Nigerians could have been less if the previous government under GEJ and Ngozi managed the economy better. Have you asked yourself why the GEJ government was borrowing to pay salaries while crude oil price averaged $100 for almost 4 years. No savings, no reasonable improvement in the life of the masses. Only the rich benefited with the president boasting that he's doing well because Nigeria now has more private jet owners. That's not development but pure capture of the state by the elite.

Demand accountability from the Hausa, Igbo, or Yoruba person ruling over you. Don't be selective about accountability. Because you make it easy for the elite to perpetuate their oppression of the masses when you only demand accountability when the person is not from your ethnic group. The Nigerian case is a pure war between the elite and the masses and less of an ethnic/religious war. The earlier we get this clear, the better for us all in this country.

So, I'm just saying facts should be treated as facts and not turned upside down to suit any ethnic agenda. I am against turning the truth upside down because she is 'our sister'. Just tell it as it is so that the next Igbo person in government will know he/she has to get his acts together because nobody will be there to defend poor judgments or woeful performance. It's totally against the truism of 'eziokwu bu ndu' that the Igbo culture teaches. Tell it as it is, don't obsfucate it. Thanks.

Several police officers are feared to have been killed Tuesday night after suspected officials of the Nigerian Navy stormed a police division in Calabar, southern Nigeria.
Witnesses told PREMIUM TIMES the attack, which began shortly after 8:30 p.m., was still underway as at 10:19 p.m. at Akim Divisional Headquarters.

“The police station is still burning as we speak,” a horrified witness told PREMIUM TIMES.
Naval spokesperson, Suleiman Dahun, told PREMIUM TIMES he wasn’t aware of the development as at 10:26 p.m., promising to revert after his findings.

Police spokesperson, Jimoh Moshood, could not be reached for comments Tuesday night.
Sources said the unrest was a continuation of an initial skirmish between a police traffic officer and a naval officer at a traffic light near the Calabar Stadium along the Airport Road on Tuesday afternoon.
“Some naval officers ran the red light and police traffic officers intervened, but rather than listen, they descended on the policemen and beat them up,” a witness said. “This was around 5 p.m.”
“Police officers now called for back up and and the Navy also called for reinforcement and they took over the road leading to the airport.


“But the Navy Commander and police commissioner in the state intervened and the two sides backed down,” the witness said.

“However, around 8:00 p.m., when everyone thought the matter had been resolved, naval officers descended on Akim Police Station and started shooting and burnt down the facility.
“We confirmed three bodies but we feared there are more,” the witness said.
The witness also accused the naval officers of blocking fire fighters from extinguishing the inferno set at the police station.
Details soon…

Source: http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/232631-breaking-many-feared-dead-as-naval-officers-attack-police-station.html

It is appalling that our security forces have become enemies to themselves instead of collaborating to fight insecurity and criminality in Nigeria. What do Nairalanders think of the ego war between Security agencies in Nigeria?

So, the legislators are stalling on the Money Laundering Prevention and Prohibition Bill, the one that will hit them badly.

It's a very poor performance. We should be at least second in Africa.

Election time in the UK approaching. Politicians and their theatrics.

Sowore is the man. I want to be as courageous as he is when I grow up.

Okonjo Iweala committed economic genocide in her second coming as a public servant in Nigeria. Nigeria's resources were mismanaged and pilfered under her watch as Co-ordinating Minister under a feeble President Jonathan.

Her first attempt at public service was much more fruitful. And that was because there was an array of experts who did the job behind the scenes - Soludo at CBN, Ezekwesili at BPP, El Rufai at BPE, Nuhu Ribadu at EFCC, Nenadi Usman and Steve Oronsaye and under a more capable leadership of President Obasanjo. That was the golden era of public reforms in Nigeria in the current democratic dispensation.

In her second coming, the people that did the underground work were no longer there and President Jonathan himself was not visionary and did not provide political support. The right thing to do would have been to resign but she was enjoying the Co-ordinating Minister title, played along and fumbled at the end of the day.

Even if she sits with 100 presidents, it does not negate the fact that her second coming in public service in Nigeria was a disaster. She has acknowledged this fact herself.

People should learn to make objective assessments based on competence and not primordial attachments.

That I am Igbo does not mean that I should cover the truth when I see it.

koropotopoto:
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another trash

so tell me in what aspects are they developing?
infrastructure?
technology?
workforce?
military?

Infact do you know what is developing
you call a country with influence on UN a developing country
a country with nuclear power a developing country
a country with sophisticated infrastructures and some mind blowing technologies a developing country.
a country that manufacturs its own technology from the scratch?
a country that exports technology

guy ee you're just as dumb as your counterpart LionDeLeo

What is China's per capita income? Compare that to that of the US, Japan and Western Europe. I can't debate with you. You are not knowledgeable enough on the subject of development. I am a practising development economist.

imam07:
This guy I don't know where u started your argument and I don't want to know. Are u serious about what u are saying or joking. Please never repeat this in a public place again. Why will u say China is a developing country. Abi u no dey watch satellite news. China is in future since. A complete developed country. I don't need to go into details.

You are being unnecessarily emotional. Development is a technical concept. That you have beautiful skyscrapers or beautiful cities does no make you developed. Development is majorly about the quality of life of majority of the citizens. China has grown rapidly and is still developing. I will just ask you to do a basic google search on 'Why is China a developing country' and you will find Chinese government documents that describe them as developing.

I used to be emotional like you until I found out what it means to be developing and developed.

koropotopoto:
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Trash

Don't be emotional. Check for Chinese government documents and see that they describe themselves as developing. There is a difference between rapid growth and development. Rapid economic growth is a necessary condition for development but not sufficient to become developed. China is still developing by most indicators.

koropotopoto:
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why are they competing with US in economy

You can compete with the US on anything but that does not make you a developed economy yet. China's economic advantage comes mainly from its cheap labour which has made it a major manufacturing. They are making progress but when you match their development indicators with that of the US, they are not at par. Basically, China is a developing country and they themselves know that.

theDEVILisHERE:
Every country is still developing in the literal sense
China is a 1st world country
1st world countries are classified Developed

Visit china and see for yourself
Stop listening western propaganda crap

Every country is not developing. There are minimum criteria to be met to be judged as a developed country. You look at indicators like the per capita income, poverty rate, life expectancy and the general quality of life.
The concern of developed countries like the US and Western Europe is to grow (economic growth) as development has been achieved. The concern of developing countries is to grow, and to develop.
China is not a first World country yet. It might be making progress but it is still developing. It is not by what you see in China's big cities. You judge by the standard of living of majority of the populace and it can't be compared yet to what you have in developed countries.

koropotopoto:
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if you don't know how things work ask others
stop claiming i too know always
that's how you shamelessly disgraced yourself yesterday by saying that China is not a developed country

ok one more lesson for you today kid

all the winner need to do is to lodge a complain on nairabet with his valid ticket code and after confirmation from all angles
Nairabet will pay him completely.

learn before you talk next time
stop claiming what you don't know

kiss the truth

Hi Bro, China is still a developing country, not a developed country.