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QuinQ:
No, I'm only saying Jesus is the only man claiming to be God who has stood a 500+-year test of time

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SAME THING. IT REQUIRES A LONG TIME OF HUMAN BELIEF. THATS WHAT YOU ARE STILL SAYING.

QuinQ:
Yiu are clearly the one not thinking. If I told you Jesus's Godship has been time-tested that means I won't fault anyone who didn't believe His Godship in the Ist century. But after 2000 years?! Not only that, Christ himself said there'd be many flash-in- the-pan "Christs" and how you know is that after a while they'd disappear

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So according to you a man is God if it is believed by many people over a long period.

MaxInDHouse:
If you can solve the puzzle yourself then why asking me?🤣

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I have since solved it. All the beings in Job 1:6 were sons of God including Satan.

So how is Jesus the only begotten one.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep on asking jàre! Matthew 7:7🤣

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What's the problem. Surely you know JWs don't condemn alcohol, only the abuse of it.

Men!

You guys are unbelievable in your rose tinted glasses.

Job 1:6 remains evidence that Satan is also a begotten son of your Yahweh.

Bwahahahahahahhahahahhaha! Apologies to LordReed.

musicwriter:
You don't need Jesus to experience that comforting feeling. Other religions around the world experience the same feeling in the name of their God.

In fact, it's not even spiritual. Example, it's the same thing that happens when a mega star like Michael Jackson is performing on stage. When Jackson is on stage, some crazy fans catch that electrifying feeling and fall down. But religion has led you to call it "falling under the anointing" when it's just hysteria

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Not only hysteria but many times outright pretense and fakery. Acting.

MaxInDHouse:
After insulting me shey?
Ọmọ nothing for you tonight it will be reserved for a seriously interested person!🙂

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Don't be a kid.
I only asked if you were drinking.
I was and still am by the way.

ddippset:
Maybe he is actually Reno..Who knows?

Cus the level of (. ) nibbling is mind boggling.

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It's worrisome that anyone in Nigeria today can praise Reno.

MaxInDHouse:
Oga abeg waka pass my side i no ready for insults today!🤣

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All because you cant answer your own scripture.
Enjoy, you cant delete Job 1:6.

QuinQ:
Mention ONE person today being worshipped as God by a major religion

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Why must it be today and why must it be a major religion?

So Jesus was not worshipped as God in the first century by any major religion as well. Did that mean he wasnt God according to you?

And if Olumba Olumba Obu is worshipped as God by all major religions one thousand years from now, will that transform him into God?

Think, man, think!

QuinQ:
That's the point. Jesus Godship has stood the test of time. I've never heard of anyone worshipping Olumba Olumba as God, or anyone claiming to be God for that matter

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Oh, many many many men are worshipped as God, and that has been the case even long before Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
You still dey my domot?

Abeg waka pass my side i no get time for insults today!🤣

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Good excuse.

The scripture remains there to taunt you. It clearly says there were other sons of God and even Satan was one of them.

Enjoy yourself as to how God begat them.

QuinQ:
Who said he was God 1000 years ago whose ministry is around today?

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Why must it be 1000 years ago. These people claimed they were God within the 20th century and their ministries are doing well. How do you know how their ministries will be after 1000 years?

QuinQ:
And how did it work out for them? Did people realise they were really God after they died? Did their ministry grow and encompass the world their words never passing away?

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Their ministries are alive and well and comparatively doing well compared to Jesus' ministry if you look at how long they have existed.

MaxInDHouse:
Oh, I see!
So you are here to insult people sorry abeg waka pass my side!🤣

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I repeat - how are they sons of God if not begotten by God?

MaxInDHouse:
I said ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God not only son.

I hope you are the bolded

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I hope you are not drinking.

How are those other beings sons of God if they are not begotten by God?

QuinQ:
He had to - to avoid being killed before the appointed time.
Do you know any other Jew that would not stone YOU if you called them God. Jesus accepted being called and treated ad God

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Never. He actually rebuked those who called him God.

QuinQ:
Angels

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Oga your Bible called them sons of God. Period.

saintokwuluora:
Trump should takeover Nigeria and use all our oil for the benefit of Nigerian and American people.

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Nah, he should use it to finance his next chain of hotels and also parties with teenage girls. Don't you think that's better.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of the one and only true God.

So he totally differs from all other beings!🙂

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​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)

Who were these other sons if Jesus is the only one?

QuinQ:
Yet they killed him precisely for claiming to be God

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him, “We are not going to stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere man, make Yourself out to be God.”

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Please also tell me who were called sons of God in the book of Job.

​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)


And tell me if they were human.

QuinQ:
Yet they killed him precisely for claiming to be God

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Many have made that claim. Olumba Olumba Obu springs to mind. So does Abd Ru Shin.

However I can cite numerous verses where Jesus denied being God.

QuinQ:
Nobody. They just suffer - why Christians are so lucky to have Lord Jesus!

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How old are you and have you ever travelled to the Middle East or Asia, or indeed within Africa outside Nigeria.

No insult intended. Just asking.

QuinQ:
Not son in the human sense. How can you have a son without a wife. He's a part of God that has always been with God

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Special pleading.
In the Bible, he expressly denies being God over and over again.

Are those referred to as sons of God in the book of Job also sons in the human sense?

WizardOfNG:
Pass am how? Reno is an accomplished and celebrated author, motivational speaker and businessmen. Now an Ambassador of the biggest black nation on Earth. Did you even know any of that?

Whereas Mike Arnold is a dubious individual with no pictures or history beyond 2019 and suspected to be convicted criminal the USA rehabilitated in exchange for using the unprincipled cad as a spy and hatchet man for their dirty jobs anywhere he is required for that. Did you know any of that either?

Bruv, don't let hate of Omokri and your own ignorance /lack of education make a fool of you online.

That you dislike Omokri does not mean you deem him below this attention-seeking and jobless "beast of no nation" Ghost with a shady life no record anywhere chronicles .

He is a US asset and this is how they have always subjugated us in Africa. I.e through using the likes of Arnold to bamboozle people like you who are highly ignorant, never read and have minds there for the taking. Arnold is a terrible person. Reno, whatever you think of him, is an asset to Nigeria and Africa.

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Arnold is not my concern but surely Wizard, you will not celebrate Reno. His duplicity and love of his vomit are reprehensible enough.

QuinQ:
Cc
musicwriter, sonmvayina, you KNOW Jesus is alive because of personal experience with him!
No one needs to tell those dealing with demonic attacks that Jesus is alive, and that demons tremble at mention of that name! You only have mouth because you're not dealing with any supernatural attacks!

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Lol. Who do you think Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Judaists, Taoists, Shintoists, Traditionalists call on when in similar moments of terror, whatever that terror may be, mental or emotional?

Keep joking.

musicwriter:
That's good. Please, let me know what thread I can learn more about your past opinion about this and related topics

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Well related topics we will be talking some 17 years of contributions on this platform so sorry, it will be too much stress for me to search links.

MaxInDHouse:
Because he is God's only begotten Son!🙂

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1. Whose son are you

2. Who are those referred to as the sons of God in the book of Job.

QuinQ:
Jesus was almost totally unknown except by the few close to him. He was only known in retrospect after Christianity was somewhat established. So it is easy to say anything writen about him didn't refer to him!

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That's also precisely why its easy to create legends about him.

QuinQ:
What about Tacitus? See below

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He didn't mention Jesus by name, rather as "Christus" and said he was executed by Pilate. Notably he was referring to the origin of the term "Christian." He wrote a century after the claimed birth of Jesus of Nazareth, and was talking about the great fire of Rome under Nero and the persecution of Christians.

By the time he was writing, the claims of who was the founder of the Christian sect would have been his reference.

That the said Christus was executed, is not my particular dispute or contest, nor do I say such a character never existed, but for me, it is open to contestation. Certainly, there were many different people with elements of the Jesus story in their lives at the time.

musicwriter:
Historians have already dismissed supposed Joseph's comment about Jesus as a forgery, unfortunately, people are not aware of this fact.

Josephus NEVER said anything about the Jesus of the Bible, instead the Roman empire inserted comments into Josephus's writing to make it appear as if he was talking about the Jesus of the Bible. It was an age of religious forgery to prove the existence of Jesus by any means possible, including by fraud, in fact, they called it "pious fraud" and it was deemed as doing the " good work" of the Lord.

Use any good AI like Grok and put in the following question "how do historians know that Josephus's comment about Jesus Christ is a forgery?" Of course, you can ask subsequent questions around that

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No need for me to check it out, I am very well aware of this. I was actually assessing your credentials.
Pass mark.

musicwriter:
Stop misleading people!!

Again, historians mentioned the names of Jesus'ES of that day that deserved a mention (I've already given you names of some of them). And your Jesus was more prominent than those mentioned- according to your Bible.

A Jesus that was born by a virgin, walked on water, fed multitudes, healed the sick, etc, would have been more important to any historian.

Tell me why historians mentioned names of LESS important Jesus'ES instead of the more important one in your Bible?

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What do you say of the references by Josephus.

Just asking.

I am not a believer, FYI.

musicwriter:
For your information, Judea wasn't and still isn't a large city, whether judging by ancient or modern standard.

The whole place isn't bigger than a local government area (LGA) in Nigeria. So, your whole perception of the size of the place is wrong to begin with.

Yes, historians of that day recorded names of everything, including names of Jesus'ES of that day. But none of them came across or ever heard of the Jesus of the Bible who's supposed to be the most popular according to your Bible. The reason is because your Jesus NEVER existed.

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He is probably a combination of several people, ancient wisdom from the far east and wild imagination.