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FxMasterz:
This is the place of understanding. Wait for tomorrow when I'll share the whole Bible in 1 minute.

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Leave sarcasm and tell me where the bible says what you claim sir.

FxMasterz:
Evil itself is a byproduct of sin. Since the world has become a sinful world, it had to be balanced by good. And good is only enjoyable because of evil in a sinful world.


God didn't want zombies. He didn't want robots. He wanted humans who can choose their actions and be responsible for it. Only that condition validated love and loyalty, without which the world wound be boring. So, everything was good until man choose to obey a different master.



He created evil for the purpose of judgement because now there was sin I. The world. That is still different from the evil that arises as a byproduct of sin.

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Surely I don't have to start pointing out contradictions again. I am quite tired.

FxMasterz:
I'm telling you the position of the Bible.

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If you don't mind, I'd like to see the verses where it says so.

LordReed:
LoLz. The defence is too porous na, how ball no go enter.

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FxMasterz:
You can apply it locally. Not everything applicable in Nigeria is applicable in USA

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The point is from where do you derive the magisterial authority to make that rule and consign it to Earth alone.

LordReed:
What makes it different? According to your book Satan was an angel and he goes to heaven sometimes so evil can be in heaven no?

It still doesn't matter because you concede that the possibility exists.

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Are you such a wicked fellow?
Why do you keep scoring golden goals when one is enough.

Have mercy, m'lord, have mercy.

FxMasterz:
No. He didn't.

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So who created evil.

Mind you, the omniscient and omnipotent one who created creatures who do evil necessarily created evil.

This is aside from his confession in Isaiah that he does indeed create evil.

So that you can appreciate the sacrifice.

[quote]So that you can know that you were accepted of the Father.

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Our knowing what Yahweh has done by no means changes the point. Remember the point being that Yahweh hurts himself since Jesus is Yahweh according to you and he hurt Jesus quite clearly even when Jesus had purportedly done nothing to deserve it, and begged for the cup to pass over his head.

Also Jesus lamented that Yahweh (himself) according to you had forsaken him. In Christian theology it is said that Yahweh (Jesus) fled from Jesus because of the spectre of sin Jesus was carrying on the cross which Yahweh could not tolerate since Yahweh cannot behold or bear sin, and yet Yahweh as Jesus was carrying the same sin allegedly.

It does, because He literally took the place of the sinner and took his sins upon Himself. He claimed He was the One who did everything you did.

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Then Yahweh is here lying that he did what he did not do.

Yes, that's the law. Then Jesus came to reap your sins for you because you cannot actually do any better. You have no such powers.

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Please and please. If this is the law then why does Yahweh breach it by putting the sin on someone else?

That would mean that the law of Yahweh is false and Yahweh is in fact not just.

You asked me to point out the contradictions, and so there they are above.

FxMasterz:
The rule applies to earth alone. It doesn't apply to the entire universe.

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Special pleading.
And how did you arrive at it at all events.

FxMasterz:
No. He didn't.


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So that you can appreciate the sacrifice.


So that you can know that you were accepted of the Father.


It does, because He literally took the place of the sinner and took his sins upon Himself. He claimed He was the One who did everything you did.



Yes, that's the law. Then Jesus came to reap your sins for you because you cannot actually do any better. You have no such powers.

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I don't know how you don't see the numerous contradictions here. Do I have to point them out?

FxMasterz:
That's not my argument.


My claim is that good can only be appreciated in the presence of evil. It makes you have a sense of enjoyment otherwise you wouldn't even know what enjoyment is.

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Hence good cannot be appreciated in heaven if there is no evil there, as LordReed has rightly noted.

FxMasterz:
The conditions of earth are not same with heaven's. The same rules don't apply. Apology for omitting the screenshots. Here are they below:

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Your argument doesnt work once you claimed that good can only be enjoyed with the presence of evil.

FxMasterz:
No. That's not the kind of hurting we're talking about. Here, it was man that hurt Him. If you feed your dog and do it nice things only for it to turn against you one day and bite. Can you be blamed for that? Nobody will say you hurt yourself for what that dog did to you.

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A creator of evil cannot blame the evil it created.

No, that's love. Hurting others for some selfish gains is what sin really means.

Love can hurt itself for the benefit of others. That's sacrifice.

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Such sacrifice that the said Christ lamented it by -

1. Praying that the cup should pass over him?

2. Crying that the father had forsaken him?

And thirdly such an alleged sacrifice does not square with justice if one person has to bear the sins of another.

Even after the same Bible claims that whatsoever a man sows the same shall he reap.

FxMasterz:
How did hurt Himself?

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1. He expressed regret for his action creating man

2. If you are a trinitarian he hurt himself by hurting Christ

dederocs:
Nigeria as a country is a disgrace, from the political scene to security. Focus on solving your basic problems, no put mouth for wetin pass you. North is being buried by religious indoctrination and terrorists jihadists kidnappers, this should worry you not greenland

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Same to you. Focus on Nigeria rather than praising and defending a PDFile.

FxMasterz:
Sin is anything that hurts or wrongs God or man or yourself.

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By this definition Yahweh sins also since he has hurt himself according to the Bible.

Bacteria8:
I've never seen Nigeria play this kinda beautiful football before in my lifetime

I'm 30-years old by the way ❤️❤️❤️

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So of course you were not born in 1994 and even as at 1996 you would have been less than one year old at most. Those two years were the golden era of Nigerian football.

panpan:
The United States contribution to the world economy is not difficult.
They can print as much US dollar notes as they like.

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Well said. And many ignorant Africans don't understand this.

Nche95:
go school, you say na Sharia better to you

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What he said is far better educated than you know.

Slurity:
The point he or she want to make is clear, Islamic leadership can not produce the world leader economically.

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Come on. But pagan leadership could produce world leaders in Rome, Greece, Egypt, Persia, Babylon etc?

Look, I am not Muslim and I detest Islam. But what I saw there was a very clear effort to stop counting once he or she saw a Muslim country on the list.

dederocs:
My point is we are not qualified to tell Trump what to do... Nigeria is a nation filled with pawns, mediocres, religious bigots, greedy gluttons and sycophants.

Bandits and territorists kidnapping and killings that went unabated and negotiating and pleading with territorists showed how lowly minded and weak we are, let's cure our mental enslavement and sickness first.

Our opinions is inconsequential

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Same can be said of the USA with its absurd gun violence and many other things. In short, is baby child Trump qualified to tell us what to do when he can't even point out our location on a map? Is a PDfile and criminal entitled to judge a country he doesn't understand, not that he understands anything other than cowardice and fraud?

Are you Nigerian?

If you are, why are you speaking as though you are a judgmental foreigner?

Why do you seem to want to make excuses for the worst leader in global history since Hitler?

Simply by saying that your country has problems - which all countries do, by the way.

lezz:
At 50 you're still getting teenage goosebumps for online notoriety?

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Have a peasant day.

dederocs:
Go and stop them

Lazy heads can't give themselves electricity, can't save themselves from bandits and kidnappers, want to tell Trump what to do.

We as a people have no say, we need to go brush our teeth first.

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I really cant understand your point. If the point is that we have our problems and therefore Trump is right, you are talking pure bunkum.

dederocs:
The same way British colonised Nigeria and forced us into this unholy union.

Go stop him if you can, or become a world power if it's easy...in Nigeria all we know is religion and noise, you people can't even build your states, or give yourself electricity, just religion and criminal politics.

Such a shame that a people have accepted the role of pawns.

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What is "you people?" Where are you from?

Secondly if you think the USA became a world power through having spoilt brats and draft dodgers like baby Trump you must be joking.

LordReed:
I didn’t see any screenshot.

If evil will be purged then it is NOT NECESSARY! Or are you saying there is no enjoyment of good in heaven?

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This question is a golden goal.
End of match.

FxMasterz:
Since you didn't want to make the research as I advised. I have copied what I said to Google so you can have a reason to research it. A few screenshots of the results are attached below.



Evil is not a direct factory product. It's a by product of sin. The more you sin, the more you produce evil. Lucifer was the first to ever sin , and that sin brought evil into being. God had to cast him out and all his accomplices to punish them on earth. Heaven was purged. Earth would eventually be purged at God's set time too. All evils would be quarantined. With a different body and newly refurbished earth, we would have a different experience on earth.

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Can you define sin please

dederocs:
There is Christian genocide, only Nigerians see mass slaughter of thousands by sahelian normads as normal, due to mental sickness.

Benue was repeatedly attacked more than 5 consecutive times in a row, no condemnation from you or yours, when Trump strikes terrorists you people come to condemn Trump.

It's better to be advocate for the victims, don't be an advocate for terrorists and rabid heads.

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Not a problem. A simple clue when thinking logically is to see how many similar things you can excuse.

What about white genocide in SA? Does it exist?

Here's a man who has also threatened -

Venezuela

Denmark

Canada

MEXICO

Columbia

Iran

.... And others.

Tell me, what's the excuse for each one.

lezz:
you have been reduced to monosyllabic evasive responses after 16 years here pretending to be what you're not.

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Joker.

Clearly you know me. Unfortunately I have never noticed you.

dederocs:
The part he said "because Danish boats landed there 500 years ago, don't make them the valid overlords today"

Of course he won't seize it, they will reach an agreement, it's his way of negotiating.

He can negotiate with the Green land people directly.

Trump has told you, he won't allow China or Russia control the western hemisphere, that is their area of influence, their domains.

It is us African that don't value our security, brainwashed by religion, so we don't value our life ...we leave it to God, well America knows they have to help themselves for God to help them.

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There is always an excuse for Trump. When he messes up, it's his way of negotiating. When he creates a disaster, it's genius. One day it's Christian genocide in one country, another day it's white genocide in another country, another day it's drugs in another country, another day it's Russia and China are encircling Greenland.

When will you just accept the man is a pathological liar and puerile deviant who is looking for a fantasy of dictatorship while trying to distract the world from his PDfile crimes?

lezz:
I have learnt Africans who dislike Trump are:

1* repeated and repatriated itinerant economic seekers

2* those who believe a visa represent a brand new life
3* LGBTQ and same sex advocates

4* groupthinks with delusional disorders

5* charlatans who are hollow and only projecting what mainstream media tells them.

How many boxes do you tick, Deepsight?

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Joker.

correctguy101:
Before you start to dey feel too important. Trump does not care about people who doesn't add to his ideas of making America great. Abi you don see them send any person wey dey do well for certain fields back?

He's more concerned in restocking America with great minds that work in line with his ideas. Whoever and wherever they might come from. The rest should go and hug transformer.....

Na the MAGA idea of trump be that. He only accepts idiots who supports him but you must be American first or have deep pockets.

As for the places he's targeting. You no dey watch him talk on the news? The man is hunting for resources...

Now, the excuse for Greenland is that China and Russia might take it. Might!!! You suppose know that's a lie from both sides of his very thin, almost non-existent bleached lips... Lols

Plus someone like him get mouth dey say he no want Russia as neighbor. Why again was Putin fighting Ukraine? No be because of this same thing?

But his blind supporters no go see all these.

Awón èyàn werey

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Thank you sir.

Zocalite:
There's a difference

Russia and China can't be trusted

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Oh. It's USA that kidnaps presidents that you trust abi?

lezz:
old and delusional.

Both Denmark, and EU has a common enemy which is Russia and China. The US is the main force holding their common adversary back for decades now.

While the EU is heavily invested in censoring free speech, LGBTQ and mass migration.
China and Russia has not such issues but steadily expanding their dominance.

But age and sense aren't always aligned.

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Joker. You will be done in by your masters while you scream their defense.