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Agbegbaorogboye:
Folks like Lere Olayinka are cogent reasons why anyone must detest the job of a PR person or media manager especially for politicians
Just imagine. Does he after spending the whole day releasing statement upon statement as an attack dog barking at every and anyone who says anything with the word Wike in it, get home and breathes a sigh of contentment at a day well spent?
Does Lere teach his children to respect elders and their peers or to learn to give punch for punch even if it involves their grannies?
How does he feel when he's on his bed at night waiting for melatonin to take over and he begins to count on his ceiling all the people he has insulted? Does he feel pride at his job or a sense of being lost?

Very well said.

LordReed:
Like?

Did you ever see this thread?

https://www.nairaland.com/881279/martian-plaetton-lets-discuss-ancient

LordReed:
Believing something doesn't make it true. What they wrote and believe may not bear any resemblance to the truth, so we need some other way to verify them.

There is much that supports the Ancient Alien hypothesis other than what is written.

LordReed:
So is it possible or impossible for us to know about these creators/gods?

I think it is possible for us to get some knowledge of our creators if they are beings dwelling in this universe. The Ancient Aliens Theory for example, is one possibility of who / what exactly our creators are / were. There are extensive Sumerian and Hindu writings which strongly suggest this and it is hard to see why some of those writings would have been put together in the same timeline as some known human lineages, if they were not believed by the writers to be real history.

However if our creator or creators are transcendental, existing completely outside this dimension, this universe, this time and space, it may well be impossible to know anything of it or them.

I thought they said it would be eight lanes ? ? ? ?

Amotolongbo:
That is stealing mentality.

Can you open your own business and employ someone or allow your employee to do that to your business?

At this scale, some provision can be made for staff. Not by stealing, legit provision.

LordReed:
Which means the "director" has a goal in mind but we don’t see that.

This is only to be expected. It is almost inconceivable, if we have a creator or creators, that we can conclusively decipher the motivations and/ or end-game of the creator(s).

Also why would an the so called "director" want diseases to thrive that has the potential to kill an entire species? .

I must confess I have no anser to this. I can only say that if indeed there is a creator or creators, their designs would be so well above our pay grade that we probably cannot comprehend them. A small analogy would be a smaller creature wondering why humans let milk get spoilt before consuming it as cheese. Heaven knows if our diseases serve some idiosyncratic purpose to the gods which will be as indecipherable to us as our letting milk spoil will be to some other creature.

Why would entire species even flourish then go extinct? According to some accounts there have been more spcies that have gone extinct then we currently know

Same way I guess civilizations rise and fall. And the interest of the gods in each civilization might be as shallow as having a reality show for entertainment.

ucheheart:
Tinubu is going to win again if this people cannot come together and form one mega party

If they don't realise that and sacrifice the way BAT himself sacrificed (waiting eight years for PMB to finish) then their collective grey hair is wasted.

This is simply false. We all know the selected interventions of the CBN which were always announced.

Jakumo:
I made an assumption that Lagos must be safe because I never actually live there but only visit the place, during which it appears safe compared to other parts of Nigeria.

Much of Lagos is indeed safe - to the extent that it is largely untroubled by the spectacular killings and kidnappings by bandits roaming the country. Specifically, elite neighborhoods are specially safe.

ElSudani:
Let us assume they are corrupt like you said but there's no record of any project they started and then abandoned midway.
Therefore, there's no valid reason to believe this road will not be completed in 50 years like you said.



The significant towns are all reachable by road currently.

You should ask the people in the coastal states.

Its interesting that you are silent about the contract being awarded to someone convicted of fraud in two countries and the fact that procurement processes were not followed - and I should add that the funds were not appropriated as required by law.

ElSudani:
What are these antecedents? What are the projects they abandoned midway?

By antecedents, I refer to their corruption and guile.

"Because there are already existing roads to all of those places."

This is not a valid argument at all, it is impossible to have one road connecting everywhere.

The significant towns are all reachable by road currently, I dont know if you are referring to every last hamlet.

ElSudani:
The road is not 100% public my friend. Get your facts right.

It is still public by whatever measure, even if there is an alleged component of private investment. Mind you N1 Trillion of Public funds have been paid upfront - and the so-called private component will probably be a ruse, going by the antecedents of the contractor and his partner in crime, the president.

A road connecting several states is not necessary! By what reason sir?

Because there are already existing roads to all of those places.

ElSudani:
Just like some of you said the Dangote refinery will not be completed in 40 years.
This road is obviously going to be completed before the second term of the president.
The terrain is difficult but some sections are going to be faster than others.

The Dangote Refinery was a private project, this road is public.
The Dangote Refinery was handled by proper contractors, this road was awarded to a convict in two countries - Gilbert Chagoury, convicted in the USA and Switzerland for fraud.
The Dangote Refinery was necessary, this road is completely unnecessary.
The Dangote Refinery went through all regulatory and compliance processes, this road was awarded without reference to Public Procurement Guidelines.
The Dangote Refinery has no conflict of interest, this road is riddled in nepotistic corruption.

helinues:
Other road that are yet to be constructed are being cleared ahead. Your mathematics is wrong

As if this is not Nigeria. We all saw how the repair of Lagos-Ibadan took twenty years. You dont know jack.

Lanretoye:
That’s to say sadnesss go Dey choke some people at every 30km or 4% till the 750km is attained.

Can you not do basic math? If it takes 2 years to do 4%, dont you realize that you are looking at fifty years to complete the project?

Penguin2:
Fantastic submission!

But the only difference here is that while in my analogy, the parents of the child is permanent, in practice, as it relates to Nigeria, the parent (president) is not permanent.

So, while we may currently have a parent who, instead of using the money saved from the removal of the oxygen pipe from our sibling in the hospital for the good of the family chooses rather to use the money to take concubines, buy cars and engage in several other profligacies, tomorrow we may get a parent who is not like the current one and he will use the money judiciously for what it should be used for.

And then the only gratitude we will owe our former parent was having the courage to see through the removal of oxygen pipe from a sibling who had rendered all of redundant.

The removal of the subsidy was a bad decision but the simultaneous floating of the naira was worse.

What should have been addressed was the corruption in the subsidy regime..

JASONjnr:
It's very simple...... the money is for infrastructural development and public finance reforms..
But people who hates the government will make it seems like Tinubu is loaning the money from their bank account....

And in what country do you live that you dont know that most of that money will be stolen? ? ?

RichBoy247:
Everybody don tire jare, with the removal of fuel and FOREX scam subsidies, I expect the economy to run without any external loan.

Anyway, I still stand with JAGABAN

So what are you saying here?
Basically that your support for him is unconditional - even if he sells Nigeria, you will support, right?

Maitunbi:
How does that present pls?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosis

. . . ALSO Obsessive Compulsive Neurosis in particular often presents intrusive thoughts which the OP referred to.

Abaziaka:
Nigerians forget so soon
Amechi
Atiku
El_rufai
Where the key architects that form the Apc coalition that brought Buhari to power
Amechi became minister
While El-rufai became governor
Atiku retract back to PDP because getting the apc ticket wasn't foreseeable.
And after serving in the worse government in history of Nigeria under Buhari leadership,
They still want us to trust their selfish coalition.
Ogas politicians our mumu don do
This people don't care about the interest of the masses other than their political interest

There hasnt been any govt as bad as the current one and it should be taken down by all legal means possible.

Are you sure you do not suffer from neurosis?

IamAtAnger:
Is Anambra not classified as East?... u can't go tru Delta without going tru Anambra

Back then there wasn't Bayelsa. You drive down Delta State straight into Rivers State. I remember it very well. It was long ago though.

It's a different route from crossing the Niger Bridge through Onitsha and then down through Imo.

It was always there.

Nevertheless you are still missing the point.

Liar

PeterJamesJohn:
Please don't put Jesus and Mohammed in the same category. Jesus is God

How can you call a fellow man God?

SocialJustice:
Stop hating and crying. Meaningful public discussion is beyond your level so rest.

And these responses of yours are meaningful?
You will live and die on the altar of tribe and religion.
Enjoy.

SocialJustice:
Stop hating.

Honestly. I tire for your generation. I just asked you a straight and logical question borne out of my belief that the coastal road is a misplaced priority. Rather than answer the question, you say "stop hating." Who is hating? In my country can I not hold a rational opinion on public projects? Why has your generation reduced public intellectual discourse to "hating" and "wailing" and all of these meaningless things for heavens sake?

thesicilian:
Opposition politicians always have the perfect solution to every problem.

Just as PMB and BAT did.

IamAtAnger:
How do u get to rivers or akwa ibom without passing tru Anambra, imo or even enugu?

I don't know how old you are or if you have gone by road before but I perfectly recall driving through Delta State straight into Rivers State and on to PH in my youth - several times.

There were other times we drove through the East.

But the question remains. Are you allergic to the East or something?

IamAtAnger:
Going tru East to reach oil rich states will be irrelevant...

Currently one doesn't have to go through the East. Also, what's the problem with going through the East? Is it longer or does the land sting?

koladata:
I want to see how to Tinubu want to campaign for 2027. I'm eager to hear what he has to say on the podium when he stands with those their apc broom

He will be speaking to rented crowds and they will hail whatever he says.

Shameless country.

It's obvious Tinubu can't win a free and fair election in this country given everything on ground but the rigging will not have part two.