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PoliticsRe: Why Do People Hate Bola Tinubu? by demmie1: 11:03am On Oct 16, 2012
Billyonaire: So you agree with me today. Shows there is hope in my quest to enlighten Nairalanders.
YOU ARE NOT ENLIGHTENED!
PoliticsRe: Why Do People Hate Bola Tinubu? by demmie1: 10:32am On Oct 16, 2012
Cultured: What point were you trying to make ?
His point is that you shut up and face your business!
PoliticsRe: Why Do People Hate Bola Tinubu? by demmie1: 10:28am On Oct 16, 2012
utumunta: Tinubu is a 15th century politician dat feast on d poverty n ignorance of d populace. An opposition leader dat pays judges n has d appeal court president in hs pocket? (wat do u tnk akeredolu is doin in ondo? Tinubu knws he z nt goin 2 win buh salami's boy must be lukd afta) He is worse dan d PDP dat he wants 2 succeed cos ACN is a one man show.
Tell me which of your leaders have not been feasting on your flesh? you are the best example of a man with log of wood in his eyes trying to remove sawdust in another's face, the south west had voted in the AD once and voted them out for lack of performance leaving only tinubu in Lagos,the pdp that came after destroyed everything in the southwest before the same Tinubu rescued the SW with his insights from further destruction, planting his 'boys' who are doing well in their various states, even oshiomole was in the Labour party before Tinubu paved way for him to become the governor on ACN's platform, knowing that he can perform. Tinubu may be a thief in power, point out which elected officer is not? But Tinubu is a man of insight with a passion for developing Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Why Do People Hate Bola Tinubu? by demmie1: 10:04am On Oct 16, 2012
Gbawe: @OP
I am well aware of your mischief but I will indulge you because, as El Rufai stated recently and as is commonly accepted, "a lies may begin to sound like th truth if repeated a million times".

The "hatred" of Tinubu is not from the SW or even the North. It is sectional and not general. That is the bottom line.


Even the most upright men in the SW , like Wole Soyinka, will never tell you they "hate" Tinubu. They may dislike Tinubu and his methods but even the most intellectual folks in the region, perhaps grudgingly, appreciate how Tinubu ensured Alao-Akala is replaced with Ajimobi. Ditto with Fayemi replacing Oni and Aregbesola replacing Oyinlola and Amosun deposing Gbenga Daniel. This is what we have always asked for because the SW is a region that wants the best in charge. We know mistakes will be made but progress will come when men of others, who have delivered consistently throughout their working lives, get the chance to lead. Simple concept
By the power i claim for myself, I therefore anoint Gbawe as president Association of Yoruba NLers...or Aare gbogbo Yoruba NLers. If you second say Yeeeeee!

The brightest in Yoruba land understand that there is no better template for development than ensuring the best and most talented leaders gain control of influential office. Tinubu is ensuring that this happens , as we can all see, while OBJ and others did the opposite in the past to leave the SW a region where uncompromising criminals, because they were in power, cowered, ostracised and excluded talented and brilliant Yoruba folks.

How is Soyinka to hate Tinubu when an ACN Governor (Aregbesola) picked Soyinka to head an education summit convened to brainstorm the way forward for Osun education? Where the Soyinkas of the world were excluded in the past, they are all now being carried along in the project the SW has embarked on centred around using the brightest and most talented to move the region forward. This has been absent for a long time and this is one of the main reason it is those outside the region who hate Tinubu passionately. They perceive him to be the conductor of this symphony of united purpose they are afraid may actually come to fruition because, unlike in the past under the PDP, the best are in charge now.

There will always be PDP Yorubas who will hate Tinubu for taking away their cake but, by and large, the most vociferous haters of Tinubu on Nairaland are those from outside the SW. Your attempt to then project their warped hatred, driven by ethnic bias and intolerance, as conclusive evidence that "people" hate Tinubu is pathetic. "People" hate Tinubu indeed. It is you and yours who hate the man and are obsessed with him. You should look inside you to see why you "hate" others blindly if you are at all interested in introspection that may make you a better person. The politicians who are currently in office and failing you directly deserve your hatred and attention far more than Tinubu.
By the power i claim/seized I herefore anoint Gbawe...Aare Gbogbo Yoruba Nairaland. If you second say Yeeeeee!
PoliticsRe: Why Do People Hate Bola Tinubu? by demmie1: 10:01am On Oct 16, 2012
Gbawe: @OP
I am well aware of your mischief but I will indulge you because, as El Rufai stated recently and as is commonly accepted, "a lies may begin to sound like th truth if repeated a million times".

The "hatred" of Tinubu is not from the SW or even the North. It is sectional and not general. That is the bottom line.


Even the most upright men in the SW , like Wole Soyinka, will never tell you they "hate" Tinubu. They may dislike Tinubu and his methods but even the most intellectual folks in the region, perhaps grudgingly, appreciate how Tinubu ensured Alao-Akala is replaced with Ajimobi. Ditto with Fayemi replacing Oni and Aregbesola replacing Oyinlola and Amosun deposing Gbenga Daniel. This is what we have always asked for because the SW is a region that wants the best in charge. We know mistakes will be made but progress will come when men of others, who have delivered consistently throughout their working lives, get the chance to lead. Simple concept
By the power i claim for myself, I therefore anoint Gbawe as president Association of Yoruba NLers...or Aare gbogbo Yoruba NLers. If you second say Yeeeeee!

The brightest in Yoruba land understand that there is no better template for development than ensuring the best and most talented leaders gain control of influential office. Tinubu is ensuring that this happens , as we can all see, while OBJ and others did the opposite in the past to leave the SW a region where uncompromising criminals, because they were in power, cowered, ostracised and excluded talented and brilliant Yoruba folks.

How is Soyinka to hate Tinubu when an ACN Governor (Aregbesola) picked Soyinka to head an education summit convened to brainstorm the way forward for Osun education? Where the Soyinkas of the world were excluded in the past, they are all now being carried along in the project the SW has embarked on centred around using the brightest and most talented to move the region forward. This has been absent for a long time and this is one of the main reason it is those outside the region who hate Tinubu passionately. They perceive him to be the conductor of this symphony of united purpose they are afraid may actually come to fruition because, unlike in the past under the PDP, the best are in charge now.

There will always be PDP Yorubas who will hate Tinubu for taking away their cake but, by and large, the most vociferous haters of Tinubu on Nairaland are those from outside the SW. Your attempt to then project their warped hatred, driven by ethnic bias and intolerance, as conclusive evidence that "people" hate Tinubu is pathetic. "People" hate Tinubu indeed. It is you and yours who hate the man and are obsessed with him. You should look inside you to see why you "hate" others blindly if you are at all interested in introspection that may make you a better person. The politicians who are currently in office and failing you directly deserve your hatred and attention far more than Tinubu.
RomanceRe: If You Propose To Ur Lady And She Refuses, What Next? by demmie1: 9:49am On Oct 16, 2012
ojubi: The replies from 80% of guys on this topic is absolutely disgusting and uncall for.
Have u ever treuly loved someone and feel that the whole of your life depends on them and without them u do not have a future?
Have u ever made plans for the future and those plans are customised with only one woman?
Have u ever looked in the world of women, and all u could see is only one woman?
Have u ever cried because of love?
If u ever answer any of this questions on the affirmative you will see a rejection of your marriage proposal as one of those issues we all as humans figth to get.
I dont know about you guys but many of us applied for admission and wrote jamb like 2 or 3 times before we were admited into d uni. We never gave up, did we?
Real men dont run away from responsibilities, or adversities, or problems, naither do we give up.
Here is what i will do:
I will seek to understand the reason for her refusal, if the problems lies with me i will work on my self ASAP and try again.
I will go to God in prayers believing in faith that if this is the woman he has bless me with, he will turn her face to me.
I ll figth untill i get what is mine cause nothing good comes easy.

I do not blame a lot of u boys for yo dumb comments here because u re not yet ready for marriage, hence u do not know the challenges involved in taking that impotant step of your life. So u think any woman goes.
And for the records not all girls are despirate for marriage. Some want u to wait untill they accomplish certain things bearing their fathers name. So wise up guys and stop disrespecting women.
what if she's ibo and he's yoruba? should he work on on that?
RomanceRe: If You Propose To Ur Lady And She Refuses, What Next? by demmie1: 9:45am On Oct 16, 2012
thegoodjoehunt: He is in love with her but she isn't in love with him. That is why he is proposing and she is saying no. The lady in question isn't the winner of Miss Perfect. Yet he wants to marry her. A lady out there is on her knees praying to love him without him being perfect. He should go out there and find her. Leave this lady to find her Mr Perfect.

When she finds that all that glitters is not gold. She will know that she should have accepted that ring and worked on his faults before marriage.
true talk!
TravelRe: UKBA Officers Caught In Lagos Filing Fake Visa Application For Maid by demmie1: 9:32am On Oct 16, 2012
DICKtator: SEE MODERN DAY SLAVERY. WE DO NOT ONLY WANT THEIR NAMES AS REVEALED, WE WANT THEIR FACES AND HEADS!!!
grin grin grin grin
se you dey collect up to £300 monthly? no be slavery you dey do for your own working 9to5 for another person?
PoliticsRe: Behave Like A Statesman, Are U An Area Boy?- Mimiko Tells Tinubu by demmie1: 9:13am On Oct 16, 2012
micklplus: To tinubu, don't talk too much. Put your strategies in place if you have any.
To mimiko, keep working, if at all you've done anything that is worthy of praise oo. Don't engage in verbal missiles. You don't have to be scared of losing nah

To Akeredolu, you be SAN nah? Forget rhetorics! Show us what you've got!

To Ondo people, its your state mehn! You know what you want.

To INEC, just do your job !

To all of una, make shut up and get the job done ASAP!
Word!
PoliticsRe: Was Awo Guilty Of War Crimes? by demmie1: 2:44pm On Oct 15, 2012
cjrane: THE GENEVA CONVENTION ON CONDUCT OF WARFARE



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You are definitely out of your senses
Car TalkRe: The First Thing You Do When You Enter Your Car? by demmie1: 1:52pm On Oct 15, 2012
I turn on the engine for music, i'm addicted to music
CultureRe: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by demmie1: 10:41pm On Oct 14, 2012
Abagworo: I'm teaching you what you barely know. Just learn and stop the insults. I'm 10 years older than you.
in igbo it doesn't matter. provided you are 10 million naira richer he'll listen to you. cool
Abagworo: I'm teaching you what you barely know. Just learn and stop the insults. I'm 10 years older than you.
in igbo it doesn't matter. provided you are 10 million naira richer he'll listen to you.
CultureRe: If You Can Speak Yoruba, Talk It In Here. Everybody Is Invited! by demmie1: 10:00pm On Oct 14, 2012
Eze Promoe: It's Swahilli grin
then you must be an incurable slowpoke for posting it here. I wonder how you are able to write letters if you can't read.
CultureRe: Secrets Behind The Success Of Yorubas by demmie1: 9:49pm On Oct 14, 2012
@op, you are allowing some people need for satisfying their complex get to you. no one can deny the achievements of Yoruba people world wide, we are the most achieved in Africa, facts can prove that. this thread is not necessary.
CultureRe: Who Is Yoruba / How Do You Know You Are Yoruba by demmie1: 9:45pm On Oct 14, 2012
Ngodigha: You are wrong, no one has come here to derail it, but if I say yorubas have tribal marks, does not mean I want to derail the thread, Bingo, do you understand.
your problem is that you are too obsessed with yorubas to see the facts that are bouncing right on your nose. other ethnic groups have tribal marks, I don't know from which state in the north but you can see them in the army, even some ibos have tribal marks on their temple. and not all yorubas practice tribal marks.
CultureRe: Who Is Yoruba / How Do You Know You Are Yoruba by demmie1: 9:25pm On Oct 14, 2012
KDULAR: If you open your mouth wide when suprised , like agh, yeepa,
End most Arabic names with u , like Ikeelu, taibatu, lukumonu, rashidatu,
Find it difficult to call letter "V" but "F".
Don't believe you must pay for a girls meal while on a date.
Find it easy and convenient to use the prefix "e" before any Yoruba verb while addressing someone you have regard or respect for
Do not feel embarrassed to postrate or bend for someone you regard or respects.
Believe in making a life to make a day and not the other way round.
Would celebrate even if you buy an handkerchief.
All senoirs are either aunties or brothers.
Believe English language is good but will rather expres himself Yoruba.
Lick your fingers after meal without an apology
Believes other tribes can live with you without much problem and even own land.
Can fart whenever and wherever.
Loves to eat palm oil in your stew , soup and pottages.
Prefers to pray in Yoruba language.
etc
you clearly defined me sir (did you notice the sir?). and I'm proud of it without any apology.
CultureRe: Obatala, King Of The Igbo Nation- Igbodefender.com by demmie1: 9:17pm On Oct 14, 2012
this is the silliest piece of crap ever written! OMG! when did this come up into a human imagination?! if this is true, then obatala created the world.
CultureRe: If You Can Speak Yoruba, Talk It In Here. Everybody Is Invited! by demmie1: 9:09pm On Oct 14, 2012
Eze Promoe: Mana nwanne, kam jiri oghere gwa gi na i bu uchu churu echu. Ndi mmoo jiri aja kpochie gi onu na imi. IDENGERI!
I don't get it. is that Yoruba?
CultureRe: Who Is Yoruba / How Do You Know You Are Yoruba by demmie1: 9:06pm On Oct 14, 2012
I actually viewed this thread to see how many Yoruba haters would derail it.
PoliticsRe: Ondo State Governorship Debate - Final Round - Live On AIT! by demmie1: 1:08pm On Oct 12, 2012
shola shogo: Dr. Olusegun Mimiko has performed well in the past three and a half years and i believe he still has more to offer ondo state. one good term deserves another. for a governor like Mimiko who has done reasonably well in his state, despite that his opponents have decided to close their eyes to the good projects he has embarked upon in the state. but he'll definitely win in the coming election.
What are your criteria for performance,is it the number of roads repaired? how well are the major cities in Ondo state connected, how any jobs have been the created that you could actually feel the impact, what do the people in Akure, owo and ondo towns generally feel about the government? these are the few criteria to measure performance.
CultureRe: If You Can Speak Yoruba, Talk It In Here. Everybody Is Invited! by demmie1: 11:14pm On Oct 11, 2012
IYA NGBALI: helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Iya, Oju re niyi, o to ojo meta. oko re nko? se on ti n'ye isale wo daa da.
PoliticsRe: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by demmie1: 1:35am On Oct 11, 2012
[quote author=re@lchange]Yoruba cannot be your neighbor
they are evil
they masterminded the deaths of innocent children
today they rush igbo women like scarce commodity
they want to spread their curse to igboland!

stop marrying Yoruba[/quote]then again, you've gone crazy.
PoliticsRe: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by demmie1: 1:33am On Oct 11, 2012
[quote author=re@lchange] WHY CHINUA ACHEBE IS STILL ANGRY
Snippets from Chinua Achebe’s memoirs on Biafra-‘There was a country’, has already began to generate controversies. The most unfortunate part of this controversy is its ethnic dimension, Yoruba vs Igbo. Prominent Yoruba leaders believe that the good name of their icon Chief Obafemi Awolowo is being toiled with, while Igbo leaders feel that Professor Chinua Achebe said what needed to be said. Other Nigerians from my generation and younger are probably like ‘what the F%&&$k??’

Of course I did not experience the Biafran war but my parents did and so I have ‘indirectly’ re-lived their various war experiences.
My father was born and bred in Lagos during the 1940s, he grew up on Lagos Island, Lafiaji to be precise and his mastery of the Yoruba language was and still is flawless. My mother was born in Lagos too and her Yoruba also flawless. The war broke out long before my parents even met each other but they both had distinct life changing experiences.

As at the time Biafra was declared,[b] my father was a young banker in Lagos, a bachelor and a typical ‘Eko for show’ fun loving guy. As soon as my father noticed the suspicion his presence elicited among his Yoruba hosts he quickly moved to a new location and wait for it...changed his name. My father became known as Mr Johnson in his new location, spoke his Yoruba even more fluently and being very dark skinned no one could mistaken him for an Igbo.

But eventually, he was ‘outed’ by a former neighbour; his story is that in spite of Federal government’s stance on unity, there were some rogue ‘unknown Northern soldiers’ who were fond of rounding up Igbos in Lagos and summarily executing them. And these soldiers did come to Mr Johnson’s compound, all my Dad could remember on that fateful morning was sounds of people outside shouting, [size=14pt]“Igbo ni wan, Igbo ni wan.”[/size] He quickly made for the back door balcony of his first floor apartment, and jumped out dislocating his right leg in the process. He then limped towards the back fence and scaled over it, still landing with the same dislocated leg. My dad describes the pain as ‘unbelievable’ but he escaped, that’s why I’m here today. He still walks with a limp till this day.[/b]

On my mother’s side, she and her family ran out of Lagos and moved to her father’s house in Port-Harcourt, thinking it was a safe haven. Port Harcourt quickly fell to Federal forces and they all moved to their ancestral home in the present Imo state. What my maternal family experienced in their own village was probably worse than all her experiences with the non-Igbos combined.

Apparently, returnee Igbos from outside the Eastern region were discriminated against by their own people. Back then, Igbos weren’t fond of building solid houses in their villages, many had built their houses in Lagos, Port Harcourt and the North. And so, as my mum and her family became penniless returnee Igbos, many people within her community who even benefitted from her family’s pre war benevolence mocked them. They said things like, “Foolish people, you all went to build houses on foreign lands, why didn’t you carry the houses on your heads and bring it over?”

The Biafran soldiers on the other hand were something else, young boys were summarily conscripted into the army. Molestation by Biafran soldiers was so rampant that young girls were advised to make themselves ugly and smelly on their way to the market so that soldiers will not find them attractive.


So, as it were, the Federal government slapped Biafrans on one cheek and the Biafran authorities also slapped Biafrans on the other cheek. But the most decisive slapped ended up being the ‘food blockade’ allegedly designed and implemented by Chief Obafemi Awolowo. I heard stories of how thousands of ‘Aje butter’ Biafran children died off within weeks into the food blockade.

Chinua Achebe’s position is that this singular action eventually wiped off over two million people mainly children and can safely be termed as genocide. Those on Awolowo’s side believe that it was a ‘necessary evil’ needed to make the war end quickly; afterall, how can you feed your enemies? Giving them energy to keep on fighting you.

Both schools of thought are correct.

We have seen wars in Africa that have lasted for over fifteen years, but the Biafra war lasted for just three years. Ironically, many of the ‘long term’ wars in Africa boasted of casualties in their thousands while the Nigerian Civil war of just three years posted a ‘gallant’ figure of over two million dead.

I feel Chinua Achebe’s pains; a man that lived to see an entire promising generation wiped out right in from him. I understand Obafemi Awolowo’s stance, ‘the war just needed to end quickly so that the nation can move on.’

However, the question is, could there have been a better way to end the war? What if the ‘Aburi accord’ had been strictly adhered to? What if the South west region which today is the most vocal on the call for a sovereign national conference stood by the Eastern region back then and demanded for true federalism or con-federalism? I have never met Chinua Achebe and maybe I never will, but I’m thinking these are some of the thoughts that haunt him every day. Especially when he looks at todays Nigeria and the persistent calls for true federalism by many, including ‘descendants’ and ‘followers’ of Awolowo.

I’m an Igbo man and I guess I 'deserve' the right to be biased about this issue. However, I strongly believe that all the parties involved in the Nigerian civil war meant well for the Nigerian nation. Although, there’s a popular saying that ‘the road to hell is filled with good intentions.’

Did the deliberate food blockade on Biafra lead to a quick end to the Nigerian civil war? It did, Chief Obafemi Awolowo was right.

Did this deliberate food blockade also lead to the untimely deaths or genocide of over two million Biafrans? Yes it did. Chinua Achebe is right.

Unfortunately, many still believe that the word ‘Genocide’ is only appropriate when the instrument of death used are gas chambers, guns and machetes.

Starvation is also an instrument of death and unlike others; it’s very slow and extremely painful.

Link http://mrstanleynwabia..com/2012/10/therewas-indeed-country-why-chinua.html[/quote]this is the way everyone should have reasoned before they turn to hate. nice piece of write up man.
PoliticsRe: Lagos Nominated For The Most Innovative City Of The Year Award. by demmie1: 5:35pm On Oct 10, 2012
Eze Promoe: What of Aba? cry
what is that? is it a city?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Graduate Drivers For My Company by demmie1: 5:30pm On Oct 10, 2012
chucky234: Graduate what? This is becoming an insult to our teeming graduates,every small contractor who can neither read nor write wants to employ graduates as drivers.
how many jobs have YOU provided yourself. You can't see a good thing and appreciate it.
CultureRe: Igbos Of Nigeria By British Missionaries by demmie1: 9:39am On Oct 09, 2012
See why Ibos are so problematic, no chance of feeding on human beings again for the sake of civilization, they turned to causing disorder everywhere they go. And they've gone everywhere.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo Vs Achebe: simple logic eluding Nigerians? by demmie1: 4:41pm On Oct 08, 2012
yes awolowo starved the ibos, cos' the ibos will not keep their mouth where their yansh is. I think you guys have not learnt your lessons, still trying to cause trouble where there is none.
PoliticsRe: Awolowo Vs Achebe: simple logic eluding Nigerians? by demmie1: 4:36pm On Oct 08, 2012
mekuslogan: Awolowo did what people do to enemies in a war. People kill their enemies with guns or with starvation. I understand that. What I do not understand is why it is a problem to say exactly what Awo did to the Igbos: he tried to exterminate the Igbo by hunger seeing that the guns were failing to do so.

Why are Yoruba angry about the truth said of their leader?
Is it not the same thing that we have been debating here on NL since eon that Awo was a monster to the Igbos during the war? What is different in what Achebe wrote?

Do you Yorubas want Igbos to have been starved by Awolowo and to keep quite about it? Igbo were starved by Awo's policy, fine by me, seen all is fair in war, but to ask me not to talk about it is a little bit insulting, no?
now that the truth is out, watch'u gonna do? go to war?
PoliticsRe: Awolowo Vs Achebe: simple logic eluding Nigerians? by demmie1: 2:44pm On Oct 08, 2012
mekuslogan: Awolowo did what people do to enemies in a war. People kill their enemies with guns or with starvation. I understand that. What I do not understand is why it is a problem to say exactly what Awo did to the Igbos: he tried to exterminate the Igbo by hunger seeing that the guns were failing to do so.

Why are Yoruba angry about the truth said of their leader?
Is it not the same thing that we have been debating here on NL since eon that Awo was a monster to the Igbos during the war? What is different in what Achebe wrote?

Do you Yorubas want Igbos to have been starved by Awolowo and to keep quite about it? Igbo were starved by Awo's policy, fine by me, seen all is fair in war, but to ask me not to talk about it is a little bit insulting, no?
now that the truth is out, watch'u gonna do?
PoliticsRe: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by demmie1: 2:16pm On Oct 08, 2012
now the cat is out of the bag! Achebe has spoken the truth! Ibos should go to war!

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