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We quote old testament because it's the Scripture. More so,Christ didn't abolish it.He only came to enlighten us and fulfill it.
Talking about Love,it could be vertical and horizontal. Love God and Love men. The new testament believers gave ALL even more than 10% so that no one amongst them lacked.Read Acts 2.
If we are Born Again all we have belongs to God.
As part of our Love and gratefulness to Him we honor Him with ALL our substance. True Christians don't just tithe but are willing to give back to God .God first ,others and ourselves last.We don't tithe because a Pastor sweet-talked us into doing it.We know it is right,it is our obligation so that there'll be MEAT in God's house.That's the least we can do because He first loved.
Abi na babalawo or Imam go ensure that one?

victorioushands:
God is the judge.

By the way, I wonder why people quote old testament and the law (Malachi 3:7-12) which man couldn't keep and for which Jesus became Christ, but they could not quote the law of love in the new testament which gave us all the rights and graces, and in the exemplary lives of early Christians (Acts 2:44-47, Acts 4:33-37).

Like I said above, God is the judge.

So tithe is unbearable? My brother, if you ain't convinced does it mean it's wrong?What is wrong with giving to God?
You guys are just making a fuss about TITHES,When in fact GOD REFERRED TO TITHES AND OFFERINGS.
For your info Tithing predates the Mosaic Law.What the bible enjoins is cheerfulness and not grudgingly or of a necessity.
I wonder the noise about this stuff.Those of us who read scriptures know itz scriptural.Christ as Melchizedek accepted, He spoke about it too in the new testament only that we should not ignore weightier matters of the Law.
Giving Tithes and Offerings doesn't qualify one for heaven but if God is blessing you,Honoring Him with your substance,money inclusive,is scriptural.
Finally, All Scriptures is given by inspiration and it's profitable for doctrine.... That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto ALL good works.
Just one question, what is wrong in giving to God?.

obailala:
Christian ministers in 2018 should be very careful not to test God. Any pastor threatening non-Jewish Christian believers (Gentiles) with the book of Malachi 3 is simply testing God's patience and should be wary of God's wrath... Kindly go and enlighten yourself with Acts 15:10 and repent

Acts 15:10
10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Pastors in 2018 have placed themselves greater than Apostle Peter (Jesus' favourite) who stood his ground in the Church council and refused that the Laws of Moses (Malachi etc) be extended to Gentile believers - Acts 15:5-10

Pastors in 2018 have also now placed themselves greater than Apostle Paul (the most prolific Apostle) who instructed that new covenant believers should never be coerced to give any mandatory percentage, but rather should give freely, whatever they decided in their hearts - 2 Corinthians 9:7

What we see in the church today is truly a scary development. Christian ministers now contradicting the teachings of the Apostles on a daily basis and relying on personal visions which clearly contradicts God's word in the bible. The devil has truly infilterated the church. May God save us all!

Food or no food...what everyman wants is respect/submission.He wants peace and the support of his woman.
If na food,there are many cooks.If na sex,prostitutes full town.
Besides, he wants to know if she can be trusted because he'll love to confide in her.... Anyways,
everything is rolled into one word...CHARACTER.This before VALUE sef

PrettySleek:
Lol this woman mouth na acid, see finishing but no be lie o. Some girls go cook heaven and earth finish but the bros go marry the girl wen no sabi boil water but e get another set of guys when fit stay relationship because of food , dem die there o

I wont support cheating on one's spouse but I wonder what's beautiful about a person with this kind of heart.This is just a snippet of what's in her heart.

Favour is deceitful and Beauty is vain but a woman who fears the Lord,she shall be praised
-Proverbs 31:30

So sad...
So all the MEE wasted?4.82 gone?
My prayer is she settled everything at the vigil.Let's always be prepared to meet God.

No mind dem...if freeze dey among them na him sabi.
If he called Baba and bloggers put ngida na dem know.
Methink that phrase could refer to all those who are fond of vilifying Genuine Pastors.So it could be a subtle reference to the #freethesheeple movement and many more

Benbisco:
OK, I read the story to the end but did not notice "Daddy freeze" only PEOPLE WHO ....... PASTORS.

I think Its a general statement; not directed at daddy freeze.

Why not ICT that will be relevant to various professions?
I used to think this is a good idea about 4 years ago but a critical look shows it won't be a good idea because many graduates in non-agric related fields would be rendered redundant for one year.
What happened to the army of unemployed graduates?Why not use them and give them incentive to go into farming?

You get time to dey explain o...these pastors are answerable to ONE who called them NOT Freeze.
Only a naive person doesn't know what freeze is doing.

HigherEd:
Huh such a manipulative drama king. Adeyemi, ropu, ibyeomie, ashimolowo all do this yearly without any funfair.
If you like feed 1 million children but if in your heart you are doing it so people can perceive you better than the pastors you criticize then you have wasted your effort as God is concerned. Christian charity must emanate from true Love. Knowing who freeze is and his antecedents I am nearly sure he is doing this so he can be better perceived by his followers. The good news is at least the children go chop from this well acted script.

Mind you, it wouldn't cost Oyedepo or Adeboye much to do a bigger publicity stunt if they wanted. Just placing a few cameras here and there and many foolish ppl would be screaming about their generosity.

I have followed up on Oyedepo's givings and it is EXTREMELY hard to follow or notice. I brought the news of Oyedepo's gift to sierraleone to nairaland after having to look deep before I could get a source that quoted the gifts.
It wasn't easy getting to know Oyedepo funds 20 public secondary schools in kwara or that he built a town hall in same state or that he funds 15 NGOs. It wasn't easy getting to know he had made landmarks agriculture free of tuition. I don't know if Oyedepo and Adeboye are giving in the right proportion to what they have but I love their desire to conceal and not make a media frenzy out of any aid giving.

Great Man...
Unfortunately, all the accolades and encomiums from men can never put a persons name in the book of Life.
I hope he personally received JESUS as Saviour. If not all those heroic deeds ends here.
The worst thing that can happen to any man is to miss heaven.No one goes to Heaven by mistake but you could go to hell by mistake.
Jesus remains The Way The Truth and The (Eternal) Life.
Religion doesn't save Jesus Does

Haba...Lion dey that place?You no talk monkeys and crocodiles

mistyebby:
The peacocks are the cutest things there, very welcoming. If you are lucky green snakes might cross your lane. .

If you are very lucky, the day you visit, lion fit show from forest.

Kikikiki...true our children belongs to God.However, dem no dey use cane exorcize evil spirit o.

Aaronsrod:
We follow oyibo too much!

We must never forget that a evil spirit can be beaten out from a childs body. Be strong. Never yield to pity.

Your child will belong to God not to Satan.

No mind am...dem think say all children are same.I remember playing Israel Houghton's Alpha and Omega many years ago(it wasn't video) and this small boy who could barely talk entered my room,listened to the song a few seconds and went down on his knees with hands raised and sang along(in his own way) every one was surprised because no one could explain...Long story short,I was forced to give the parents the CD as they were about to leave the country then.
True Worship is not for show,it comes from the heart.Only naive parents think children don't know anything. Besides,If evil spirit can possess infacts why can't good spirit direct them?

XingXhang:
That's not true. If Satan can use two year old kids to start touching one another privy parts, God can do more.

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Hmmmmn..I got wisdom from this.


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ADD THIS... Be Inspired


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For your info,na Solomon talk am.He had seen it all and concluded That All is Vanity

MillionDollars:
Shut up, E-diot, vanity vanity; why not tell that to solomon in the bible

Abeg na who hand over this girl to these sickminds?And somebody is saying some "matured people "are congratulating them.
In the first place what do they need a child for?
Maybe I didn't read it well,I thought they are set to be married so who adopted the girl ...and as what?
Whoever deem it fit to release this girl to these people is sick too.

It is to be ENJOYED WITHIN MARRIAGE Not Outside it.

Fornication defiles...

Adultery defiles too...


Know ye not that ye are temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If ANY man defile the temple of God, him shall God DESTROY; For the temple of God is holy,which temple ye are....1Corinthians 3:16-17



Let no man deceive himself, if any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a f.ool that he may be wise.
For the wisdom of this world is f.oolishness with God...1Corinthians 3:18-19

Whosoever is joined with a harlot is one Body with her...1Cor 6:16 . Some experiences are unnecessary and might cost you your destiny.I think Adam and Eve know better....
Sex is a form of covenant and not a play tthing. It is to be enjoyed WITHIN Marriage.NO MAN OR WOMAN WITH A GREAT DESTINY PLAYS WITH FORNICATION OR ADULTERY.
It's not easy without an transformation from within.There is power to be a Child of God...John 1:12...It is more than determination. Jesus begins this transformation.

NwaAmaikpe:


I love that she's feeding her sexual hunger as-at-when due.
Don't be decieved,
There's nothing like soul-tie.

Wisdom doesn't come with age,
It comes with experience,
Experience comes from having a high body-count.

Thank me later.

Whosoever is joined with a harlot is one Body with her...1Cor 6:16 . Some experiences are unnecessary and might cost you your destiny.I think Adam and Eve know better....
Sex is a form of covenant and not a play thing.NO MAN OR WOMAN WITH A GREAT DESTINY PLAYS WITH FORNICATION OR ADULTERY.It's not easy without an transformation from within.There is power to be a Child of God...John 1:12...It is more than determination. Jesus begins this transformation.

NwaAmaikpe:


I love that she's feeding her sexual hunger as-at-when due.
Don't be decieved,
There's nothing like soul-tie.

Wisdom doesn't come with age,
It comes with experience,
Experience comes from having a high body-count.

Thank me later.

True...but not joy.

obojememe:
money can buy happiness....no argument

My friend try to visit INEC down south ...then come and defend the map. By the way,No be only PVC dey determine who go enter.The Kogi state governor comes to mind.Just relax

winner01:
The Yoruba's and Igbo's keep shouting NO to Buharis reelection but the northerners are ready and waiting with their PVC's while the Yoruba's and Igbo's keep hoping for a miracle. See proof below.

Later you people will start asking in 2019 if it was cows that voted buhari, when you all abandoned your PVC.

Thank you...So it will be wrong to say an atheist is a fool too?My brother was it wrong for Paul to address the Galatians as foo.lish?
I'm sure you know the truth

chronique:
The bible calls such a fool. But the bible did not send you on errand to go and call someone a fool.

You may not see it BUT it is

HeyCorleone:
I don't see how it's an anomaly.

None is good...It's an anomaly and she needs help.

HeyCorleone:
Being homosexual is a lot better than prostituting.

God bless you... If only dem go learn

stancydg:
I will make some things clear to some folks like Mr. Ifedayo aka freeze, who enjoy claiming Abraham's blessings but do not wish to act like Abraham. The bible tells us that, Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. We know also that in this dispensation of grace, we must believe God(i.e do as Abraham did) in our hearts, for faith to be activated, that is to be born again..."that if thou shalt confess with thine mouth and believe in your heart", thou shalt be saved.

No matter how much you claim to be a christian or how free salvation is, if you don't believe in your heart and confess with your mouth, you ain't coming in. That is simply doing exactly what our Father Abraham did. Yes, Jesus has given us eternal life on a platter of gold, but He chose not to force it on us. We must do what Abraham our spiritial father of faith did, which is believe ...yes believe in God...believe in the free gift of God...believe in Jesus Christ and righteousness will be accounted unto you. Its the reason its called "the christian faith" and we are referred to as "believers".

So, you can see that there is an act of faith...following an example laid and the bible is replete with examples or situations referred to as a foreshadow(adumbration) of things to come. For example, God had to kill a lamb to cover our first parents, when they(Adam and Eve)sinned to foreshadow how Jesus Christ will be killed to cover our iniquities out of God's sight. So also, is this tithe issue that Mr Ifedayo aka freeze, has been using to confuse himself and his followers.

Tithing is a mystery. It is not an old testament mosaic law thing. It predated the old testament mosaic laws. Tithing is a " Melchizedeik order" principle. Gen 14: 18-20 tells us more.

Melchizedek king of Salem [later called Jerusalem] brought out bread and wine [for their nourishment]; he was the priest of God Most High,

19 And he blessed him and said, Blessed (favored with blessings, made blissful, joyful) be Abram by God Most High, Possessor and Maker of heaven and earth,

20 And blessed, praised, and glorified be God Most High, Who has given your foes into your hand! And [Abram] gave him a tenth of all [he had taken].

The above text shows us when the first ten percent was paid. Our father Abraham did it to a priest, who is being referred to as a Priest of God, Most High. Now, that title "Most High or El- Elyon" is God's greatest Identity.

Scriptures make us understand that Melchizedek did not have a geneology, no beginning, no end. To come into this world, you have to be born. Melchizedek came anyway. To leave this world, it has to be by ...you know what. Melchizek left anyway.

Our Lord Jesus Christ was addressed as a Priest after the Melchizedeic order in Psalm 110:4, and i quote "The Lord has sworn and will not revoke or change it: You are a priest forever, after the manner and order of Melchizedek.

This clearly shows us that the previous Melchizedek was a foreshadow(adumbration) of Jesus Christ. That said, we know that paying of tithe isnt a Mosaic principle but a Melchizedeic principle and since we are Abraham's spiritual seed made possible by the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, there is absolutely nothing wrong in following after the footsteps of our father Abraham.

It is not a "law thing", it is an "adumbration thing"... a foreshadow kind of thing...an act of faith..showing how much we trust God for providing for us. Its the same way we see Abraham as a dedicated servant of God and we follow suit.

With all this said, I believe Mr. Ifedayo and his co travelers should find a better calling and stop attacking the body of Christ. Yes, mama Funke Adejumo was right. The scriptures back it up. The wisdom of God is " foolishness" unto men.

So paying tithes of 10% and offering unto God would make a man poor or would stop him from personally helping the poor? For example giving say N50 once in a month if your monthly salary is N500 and offering to God would impoverish you?
What if you lost that N50 would you die?God forbid,if you come down with an ailment won't you spend?
I saw a title here on Nairaland about an OAP donating N300,000 to vote for a contestant on BBNaija...though I didn't read the thread but I know non of the fans of the said contestant would call it a waste.Many people outside the church waste their monies on useless things but Freeze the adviser didn't extend his economics there.If you are discerning, you'll know he isn't serving the purpose of Christ and definitely he isn't speaking scriptures...
He just has an issue with the G.Os that own jets.What they use it for doesn't concern him.He believes the money must have come from Tithes.
Much has been said
Just ask yourself if you are saved,
What is the purpose of tithes and offerings?
If you think people are enriching a man of God by blessing him cheerfully... Is it not better than spending it for all these secular artistes who would use the money on callgirls,booze and drugs?How many of you guys question the display of opulence even if they don't give to the masses?


Summary, faithfully paying of tithes and offerings can NEVER Make a Christian poor.Infact he spends less on what wastes a man.Nightclubs,prostitutes,alcohol,strange sicknesses can't have his money.My brother, there is that withholdeth than it's meet but comes to poverty. Finally, your tithe doesn't stop you from helping people. Our life and 100%, belongs to God. So 10%
shouldnt be a problem.

Kotodoctor:
Paul say ( I forgot the place) we readily Summitt our souls to those who assume total control of it.

Jesus said don't think I came to accuse you before the father, but I know of one who accuses you, moses in whom you place trust.

I know of the ones who curse you all poverty. The private jet owners. They are the ones that take yout incomes. However, The one that tell you to keep it and help the poor, you ignore. O what sorrows await many of you In the coming seasons, many of you will soon become the poor you so hate to help.

What has freeze said that is not true. Don't pay tithes. Save your money, or help the poor.

Simon do you love me? ( three times he asked) feed my sheep.

O what sorrows await you christians on that day. For I will say to you. Get away from me you walkers of iniquities. I was hungry and you did not feed me.

Great...but what do you call a person who says THERE IS NO GOD?

chronique:
Apparently, the so called man/woman of God/pastor, forgot the part of the bible that says "woe unto he who calls another a fool"... So much for being a pastor.

Opposing scriptures??My friend scriptures never oppose itself people only use them out of context. Freeze doesn't understand what he is talking about.Severally explanations have been made but people who don't understand scriptures or have been disappointed by their pastors would come to defend falsehood.
Cherry picking scriptures to defend a stance can only work for those who don't study the Bible.Talking about the law,Christ came to make it clear because the Law was a SHADOW of the real thing.
So leave freeze he knows those he'll deceive.Those who know Their God doesn't need his suggestions.
As far as I'm concerned,this noise is unnecessary. Any saved child of God knows why he pays tithes and offerings and does it cheerfully. Not to enrich any pastor

Kotodoctor:
That's a lie, many times to be fair to him, he never insults them, he only shows them opposing scriptural verses to back up his argument. But instead of them responding, they insult him like he is a small boy to lecture them. They are the real pharisees. They know to much, hence no one can teach them. Teachers of the laws always have such behaviors. Scriptures is full with such instances.

But even if freeze were to insult them, he won't still be wrong. Because they are thieves. Fela called them out many times as robbers of the mass. " pastors huz na him de fine pass, but my people dem de stay for poor sorrunding"

If it was insults, christ the Messiah was the most insultives at times. " Woe onto you pharisees, vipers, hypocrites. Yes he said so! That is the messaih.

It's not about the insult, if it is the truth it is known irrespective if how it is said.

I wonder where people get their information from.
Prostitution is the oldest profession?

And for the filmmaker deluding himself. Not all men can be lured by your so-called weapon. Women need sex as much as men just that they may be more discreet than men.
The subject of sex is deeper than what people spew about.Once the mind is warped and messed up whether you are a man or woman,thinking with your genit.als is inevitable.